[Repeater-Builder] Re: Good quality RG-8X ? (and GMRS port-A-peter)

2005-03-14 Thread rtoplus


Hi Neil and all

Thanks for all of your input and suggestions.  I guess I'll go with 
RG-214/U simply for the storage factor and rolling/unrolling I can 
see happening during drills and (hopefully not), an 
actual event...superflex, I'm afraid, might get crushed or bent 
out of shape.  

I like the idea that was presented about the camper 
flagpole mast.  We have a camping center a few miles from here so 
I'll be making a call to see if they have them available.  As far as 
an antenna is concerned, I'll prolly start out with the comtelco I 
currently have and run some real life tests...its small, light, and 
a mast made out of almost anything should support it.

Russ, you mentioned a solar panel you put on the hood of your suv.  
May I ask the specs on what you use?  The setup I am going to be 
using is:  XMTR- 40 Watt maxtrac turned down to about 15-20 watts 
(with a 12V fan) into the duplexer (which is by the way, an old 
motorola TFE6080 diplexer), RCVR- 25 watt maxtrac, controller- 
mother M R.I.C.K..  I haven't checked the amperage that the setup 
uses...I'll have to get my hands on a meter...mine is blown up:-(  
For AC use and while assembling the unit, I have a maxon 12 amp 
supply that seems to do fine.

Before someone says something about the maxtrac transmitter 
compliance, I know, I know...its 5ppm, but hey, this is for 
emergency use.


Thanks again
Bob, GMRS WPVV845, Amateur KG4WAD, LMRS WPXC892


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
   If it comes to a question here, I use either the silver plated 
  RG-223 or RG-214 ... better still is Andrew Heliax.  
 
   Hello Will, 
 
   Neil - WA6KLA 
 
 motarolla_doctor wrote:
  
   RG-8X was developed with a larger center conductor and
   the dilectric was made out of a material to allow the
   larger conductor while keeping the outer size about
   the same as rg-59.
  
  I mite add some to this: The RG8X cable is a true 50 ohm cable
  rather than the RG58x variants, most of which are realy 52 ohm 
cables.
  (51.5 0hm was (one of)the Mill specs back in the '40's and '50's)
  
  Now that does not seem to be too far off the 50 ohm design, 
but at
  higher frequencies it makes a lot of difference in the loss and
  propagation in the cable. This is why a good quality RG8X is 
better in
  some applications.
  
  In duplex applications, the shielding is very important. This is 
why
  the poorly shielded cables, such as RG8X, do not allways work 
well.
  Using a double silver plated shielded cable like RG214 is 
perfered.
 







 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Good quality RG-8X ?

2005-03-13 Thread motarolla_doctor



 RG-8X was developed with a larger center conductor and
 the dilectric was made out of a material to allow the
 larger conductor while keeping the outer size about
 the same as rg-59.   

I mite add some to this: The RG8X cable is a true 50 ohm cable 
rather than the RG58x variants, most of which are realy 52 ohm cables. 
(51.5 0hm was (one of)the Mill specs back in the '40's and '50's)

Now that does not seem to be too far off the 50 ohm design, but at 
higher frequencies it makes a lot of difference in the loss and 
propagation in the cable. This is why a good quality RG8X is better in 
some applications.

In duplex applications, the shielding is very important. This is why 
the poorly shielded cables, such as RG8X, do not allways work well. 
Using a double silver plated shielded cable like RG214 is perfered.







 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Good quality RG-8X ?

2005-03-13 Thread Neil McKie


  If it comes to a question here, I use either the silver plated 
 RG-223 or RG-214 ... better still is Andrew Heliax.  

  Hello Will, 

  Neil - WA6KLA 

motarolla_doctor wrote:
 
  RG-8X was developed with a larger center conductor and
  the dilectric was made out of a material to allow the
  larger conductor while keeping the outer size about
  the same as rg-59.
 
 I mite add some to this: The RG8X cable is a true 50 ohm cable
 rather than the RG58x variants, most of which are realy 52 ohm cables.
 (51.5 0hm was (one of)the Mill specs back in the '40's and '50's)
 
 Now that does not seem to be too far off the 50 ohm design, but at
 higher frequencies it makes a lot of difference in the loss and
 propagation in the cable. This is why a good quality RG8X is better in
 some applications.
 
 In duplex applications, the shielding is very important. This is why
 the poorly shielded cables, such as RG8X, do not allways work well.
 Using a double silver plated shielded cable like RG214 is perfered.






 
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