[Repeater-Builder] desense question

2009-05-02 Thread va2ir
Running the hamtronics REP-200 with the optional 15 watt PA in it.

After all the filtering, I get a whopping 8 watts out.

I put a small strip amp inline with the TX port of the repeater, before 
the filtering, and it caused desense. Maybe tossing spurs - I have no 
way to test.  Location is also not great for the moment, and the antenna 
is very temporary. A Diamond x500 connected with COAX (please dont shoot 
me). The club antenna will be down off the old tower (8 bay sinclair) 
and I do have the heliax for it. 

The amp is a UHF PA off a mobile rig, and I needed about 50 feet of 
RG58U to attenuate the signal from the repeater into the amp module.

Is this my problem? Lack of shielding causing desense?  When I put 
everything back to normal, my test station was solid copy.

What is my best option to get a little more oomph on the output with out 
tossing megabucks at it?

Thanks

Ian
VA2IR


Re: [Repeater-Builder] desense question

2009-05-02 Thread Ralph Mowery




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 From: va...@securenet.net va...@securenet.net
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] desense question
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 Date: Saturday, May 2, 2009, 7:44 PM
 Running the hamtronics REP-200 with the optional 15 watt PA
 in it.
 
 After all the filtering, I get a whopping 8 watts out.
 
 I put a small strip amp inline with the TX port of the
 repeater, before 
 the filtering, and it caused desense. Maybe tossing spurs -
 I have no 
 way to test.  Location is also not great for the moment,
 and the antenna 
 is very temporary. A Diamond x500 connected with COAX
 (please dont shoot 
 me). The club antenna will be down off the old tower (8 bay
 sinclair) 
 and I do have the heliax for it. 
 
 The amp is a UHF PA off a mobile rig, and I needed about 50
 feet of 
 RG58U to attenuate the signal from the repeater into the
 amp module.
 
 Is this my problem? Lack of shielding causing desense? 
 When I put 
 everything back to normal, my test station was solid copy.
 
 What is my best option to get a little more oomph on the
 output with out 
 tossing megabucks at it?
 
 Thanks
 
 Ian
 VA2IR
 
 
 
 
It is probably that 50 feet of rg-58.  I have seen desense with as little as 6 
feet of rg8 going from a transmitter to the duplexer.  You may be able to 
bypass the amp section of the Hamtronics or just build an atuenuator in a 
shielded box out of resistors.
Guess that you may be able to wrap the rg58 in some tinfoil and see if that 
helps with the desense.  Not a very good longterm solution, but a way to run a 
check.