Re: ARCserve vs Retrospect Server Backup
I have thoroughly enjoyed this thread. I, too, am a long-time Retrospect user. I only began using Arcserve because it was the only way to backup my Netware server. I still use Arcserve for that, but everything else, including my NT4 Server is backed up by Retrospect. Now, to be fair, Arcserve is a little arcane to set up, but once you know the ins and outs its not TOO awful... about like getting a cavity filled... unpleasant, but better than a root-canal! Now, on to the story I wanted to tell... and another reason to pick Retrospect. I originally planned to back up my NT4 server via Arcserve. There were a lot of reasons for this that made sense at the time. I purchased Arcserve's Client Agent for NT and set up the backup and things were going smoothly. But, being the administrator that I am, I HATE to actually get up from my desk and walk up to a computer to check it's status or monitor it's activity. I prefer logging in remotely via Timbuktu and doing my management that way. So, after researching and finding that Timbuktu WOULD indeed run on my NT4 server, I wasted no time in installing it. The very next day, my NT4 server was NOT backed up by Arcserve. To make a VERY long story short, nothing I tried could make the NT server appear for Arcserve again. I uninstalled Timbuktu; uninstalled reinstalled Client Agent; contacted Arcserve tech support; contacted Timbuktu tech support; got Arcserve Timbuktu techs to talk to each other... in the end, Arcserve washed their hands of it saying it was Timbuktu's fault and MAYBE if I reinstalled NT4 I could get back Client Agent. Anyone ever "reinstalled" NT on a critical server that has now not been backed up for over 2 weeks?!? I hung up the phone and started checking out Retrospect's capabilities to handle backing up NT servers. I installed Retrospect on my NT server and have not regretted it for one second. Kudos to Dantz for making such a great product! So... when are you guys going to add support for Netware? :-) Wasn't it Tom Roth who once said... Subject: Re: ARCserve vs Retrospect Server Backup From: "Tom Roth" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 14:14:24 -0500 Ben Eastwood wrote: I have lots to comment on this thread! I Love Retro and ditched Arcserve for Retro about six months ago. I had used it for years to back up Macs, and now I'm using it for about ten NT servers, Including one that has over 160 GB of Drive space, a couple that run MS SQL Server 7, and a Lotus Notes server -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Retro
Try Chapter 2 of the Retrospect Manual: Fundamentals. Best trick with Retrospect is not to make any assumptions about it - if you think that you're being smart and getting around a traditional backup/retore problem, don't bother 'cause retrospect has probably already taken that into account for you :) The only instances where you will need to track things a little differently is if (as others have mentioned) you have massive database files that change on a regular basis. Don't forget that by doing full backups, you are losing the versioning capability so if you save a file with mistakes and you're doing full backups you've lost the older versions. I used to have some literature that I'd written out for explaining incrementalPlus somewhere - have to go dig that out of the archives... Cheers, Erik Quoting David Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Eric - is there a really good, down-to-earth, layman's terms explanation of IncrementalPlus lying around somewhere? Sounds like it's time for a note on how it works, why it's so functional, and how it makes our lives easier. I'd do it myself but why reinvent the wheel? I'm sure you have a ready-made "tutorial" somewhere around there, no? :-) Reading between the lines I suspect that one or both of these folks are trying to apply the typical Win/DOS backup tape operation to Retrospect. Over the years I've discovered you have to talk about how low end PC backup programs which use the archive bit to know what's changed and erase all of that from their head before they begin to understand how Retrospect works. And until that happens their setup, usage, and results will be a mess. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Retro
Pam Lefkowitz wrote: Incrementals using Retrospect are handled *very* differently than other backup software implementations. What were you hoping for/expecting them to be and what kinds of problems were you having? I'd be happy to work with you on this off-list with a summary to the list if you'd like. Pam Pam, Thanks for your offer. I will give it another chance first. And to appease those who might think that there is an expectation based from other backup software, Retrospect is the only software I have experience with and encounters with other software have produced a very negative reaction. I like Retrospect for ease of use. Simple, expedient, what more can I say? But after I hooked up a DDS-4 tape unit and I tried to run RS in "normal" backup mode (incremental), I would come in the morning to find numerous errors on the screen and no backup. And after having lost drives (this has happened 2 times) within days of having no backup I will not tolerate more than 1 day w/o a complete backup. I gave up and went to a single script that uses a different tape each day, completely replacing the contents, along with a monthly archive backup. Now this was about two years ago. And yes, I too, have several large FMP files that need backup. My expectations for an incremental backup are as have been described in other posts on this list, that is, one initial complete backup followed by backup of only files that have changed. Makes complete sense to me. I'll give it another shot. -- Craig Gaevert, A.I.A. Architect TLCD Architecture Santa Rosa, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
unix client?
is there a client for backing up datafiles on a Unix server? -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Basic Configuration (Was: Re: Retro)
I use the same basic setup. Its easier to restore only the docs and prefs to the disk after you have restored everything else with an image. (I made a an image of a bootable CD and replaced the TCP/IP pref with our support IP address. That way I have IP access to the server, not slow appletalk. Its worth the effort). At 9:21 AM -0800 3/8/01, Craig Gaevert wrote: And after having lost drives (this has happened 2 times) within days of having no backup I will not tolerate more than 1 day w/o a complete backup. I gave up and went to a single script that uses a different tape each day, completely replacing the contents, along with a monthly archive backup. Now this was about two years ago. And yes, I too, have several large FMP files that need backup. I am probably in the minority here with my situation, but I feel I just have to speak up. Apologies in advance if I offend anyone. Here at my workplace, we have a standard configuration that we implement. Sure, there are a number of folk (mostly our publications staff) that deviate from the standard, but not enough that we need more than one image that includes all the applications on a typical user's box. I create an image of the drive and using Apple Software Restore, I can replace a user's drive, should it crash, in about 10 minutes. Then it's just a matter of replacing the user's Documents folder and bookmark files, which are backed up nightly using incrementals. All in all, it takes me about a half-hour to completely restore a user after a crash, more if I have to re-install other applications (such as Photoshop, Illustrator, etc. that our Pubs folk use). Every one of our users is told when they start, and they get frequent reminders, that nothing not in the Documents folder (save their bookmarks) gets backed up. We keep the Documents folder on the desktop so they can get to it easily, and remind them to make aliases instead of putting files/folders on the desktop. Our servers do not follow this regimen, though they probably should. Maybe when I do the next upgrade...have a basic OS for the image, and the apps can be re-installed fairly easily, or have OS apps each in their own image. Do most people who use Retrospect not have a standard config that they can rebuild from, in case of a crash? I know you can also use Retrospect in this regard, but I personally find it easier using ASR. If we were using Windows machines, I'd buy a copy of Ghost and do the same thing. Or do most of you back up the whole drive each night, because each drive is different and there are no standards? Or something else? I'm just curious, I guess, and puzzled. Of course, my Windows box at home doesn't have a standard config nor does it get backed up (yipe!), but I'm planning on backing everything up this weekend and starting over from scratch anyway. And maybe I can put backup software on the Christmas list this year. :) -- --- Julia Frizzell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.netspace.org/~glyneth http://www.theblackroad.org "Insert pithy quote here." -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- Todd Williams UCSD ECE Computing Support Group (858)-534-7821 If you ever stop learning . . . perhaps you're dead!!! -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
are storage sets xplatform?
Why? I have retro running locally on an ASIP server with a RAID array attached. Backs up to an AIT changer. I want to nuke the array and move it to a W2K server. I'd like to install retro on the W2K box, copy over the storage sets from the ASIP server, attach the tape changer, reformat the array NTFS and just restore all the files into a mac enabled sharepoint. I don't care about keeping privs or anything fancy. I just want the files. I've never used a Win version of retrospect before so I don't know much about it...other than I need to buy it. As a last resort I could rebuild the storage sets from retro on the W2K box (can this even be done?) but that would probably take longer than I'd care to wait. :-) Can I do this? TIA, Mark Maytum Pompanoosuc Mills Corporation -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: unix client?
A linux client is in Beta right now, but no final is out. is there a client for backing up datafiles on a Unix server? -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
RE: Basic Configuration (Was: Re: Retro)
From: Todd Williams I use the same basic setup. Its easier to restore only the docs and prefs to the disk after you have restored everything else with an image. Keep in mind how Retrospect works (based on Eric's ASCIIart). If you're already using disk imagine software (Mac or Windows) to roll out computers, Retrospect only makes one copy of identical files. So, there's only one copy of those files in the backup set -- and, if you install those files locally to the backup computer, those files never have to be copied across the LAN. So, you don't have to limit the backups to the Docs folder. Craig -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Basic Configuration (Was: Re: Retro)
For the Macs, I made a bootable CD with Retrospect client installed and configured. 1. Boot from CD 2. format the hard disk, 3. Restore from network backup 4. Reboot system...Done. Depending on how much data, it can take from 20 minutes to 2 hours. I just can't push that tape any faster... :) Notes on the Bootable CDs: I have 4 different types of Macs. BW G3 G4 G3 Powerbook (firewire) 7600-9600 series I had to create 3 CD's 1 for the BW G3 1 for the G4 1 for the Powerbooks and 7600-9600's For some reason I cannot get a universal system built that will boot on all of them. I installed Retrospect client and configured all the TCP/IP settings to a standard single IP number that I have reserved for restores. Some of the WinTel's, I've been able to create a boot ZIP disk for and install the Retro-Client on it. It works, but only for certain WinTel's. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
RE: VXA tape trouble and warning
Recently, there was a post on this list about loss of data with VXA drives if the power is cycled while a tape is in the drive. Some of the statements in that post were incorrect. One very important correction: VXA tape drives DO have the capability to recover data after a power loss. This is an explanation from the Ecrix technical support team of exactly how this works. HOW DO MOST DRIVES HANDLE POWER LOSS? With most tape backup devices, a loss of power means a loss of data. If power is lost during a write operation a tape drive will not have a proper end of data marker which defines where the current backup finished. This separates new and old data. When the 'power loss' tape is read a fatal error may occur when a tape drive crosses the boundary between new and old data. HOW DOES VXA HANDLE POWER LOSS? If a VXA drive is powered off in the middle of a write operation, it can still recover the data. It does this by correcting the data format to take into account the absence of an end of data marker. This will allow reading of the tape up to the point where power was lost. However, the drive must go through a recovery process to determine where the boundary between new and old data. You can expect 1-4 hours before the drive comes ready. With firmware of V2848 or lower the middle (rectangle) LED would blink. With V2959 firmware the right arrow will blink green/yellow indicating a format recovery is underway. HOW DOES VXA HANDLE OTHER INTERRUPTIONS? If a write operation stops sending data to the tape drive for 10 minutes the drive will write a 'pseudo' end of data marker and then reposition itself to the back side of the last block of data that was just written. This way the tape can be read with no problems. A WORD OF CAUTION All this being said, it is NOT a good idea to power off ANY tape drive with a tape still in the drive. The best protection for your data is to remove the tape before powering off your drive. If you are having difficulties with any tapes caused by a power interruption, please contact us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Frank Saab [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ecrix -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
RE: ARCserve vs Retrospect Server Backup
Ben, We're only a Windows shop and do not use the Open File Manager product. My Servers are a mix of Windows NT4 and Windows 2000 and my clients are a mix of Windows 9x, NTW4 and Win2000Pro. Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance David -Original Message- From: Ben Eastwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 5:42 PM To: retro-talk Subject:Re: ARCserve vs Retrospect Server Backup David- Are you also using Open File Manager, and if so does it work OK in Win2k with Services for Mac? ( I know this is not really a retrospect issue, but not totally offtopic..) -- Ben Eastwood IT Manager wilweb.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Kraut, David" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:11:38 -0500 To: 'retro-talk' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ARCserve vs Retrospect Server Backup I use it to back up a mix of (20) NT4 and Win2000 Servers. The retrospect program is running on a 2000 Server and works fine. I've also used ArcServe in the past and wild horses couldn't drag me back to that nightmare of a product!! :) David Kraut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 8:53 AM To: retro-talk Subject: ARCserve vs Retrospect Server Backup I've been using ARCserve for many years to backup my NT 4.0 Server and NT Workstations and long time ago to backup a Novell server. For the Mac side of things though I've always preferred and used Retrospect. I prefer Retrospect because it's much easier to install, use and maintain than ARCserve. Both products have been very reliable though I'd have to say that Retrospect has proved to be a little more reliable than ARCserve. Now I'm finding myself needing to upgrade ARCserve to the new ARCserve 2000. However, I'd really rather drop ARCserve and switch to Retrospect Server Backup to perform the NT 4.0 Server (and eventually Windows 200 Server) and NT Workstation backups. Comparing the the two product's features and supported drives looks to be essentially the same. Anyone out there with experience using Retrospect Server Backup on a Windows NT 4.0 Server? I'd love to get some feedback about it. Thanks!! -- Tom Roth * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * tel 336.716.4493 Wake Forest University School of Medicine Dept of Biomedical Communications Medical Center Blvd * Winston-Salem, NC 27157-1011 http://www.wfubmc.edu/biomed/ -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: unix client?
The situation I'm in is that the client has this monster 600-gig Unix fileserver that they want to back up, but everything else on the network is NT. The files on the big server rarely change (think optical jukebox--although it's not that exactly, just a huge RAID array with static files on it) but they want it backed up as well in case it should ever crash. Would the beta client be able to accommodate that scenario? - Original Message - From: "matt barkdull" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 4:02 PM Subject: Re: unix client? A linux client is in Beta right now, but no final is out. is there a client for backing up datafiles on a Unix server? -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Basic Configuration (Was: Re: Retro)
Hi, I got to say: in a university environment the image/fixed data path works like a charm. The students (clients) will pretty much mess up a workstation within 3 months. By having a 4BG Ghost image for NT4 and 2k download in under 10 minutes and then restore networking and data if any is the most efficient way to operate for us. Have you ever tried to do a restore from a backup set with 8 DLT members? It's a lot of trips to the tape drive... As far as having IT recommend the way to work in a company/university, I think is the sanest option: Usually you have 1-10 IT guys and 5-600 users. Can you imagine the scenario combinations? Long live server data storage! Cheers, Ben Pam Lefkowitz wrote: On 3/8/2001 1:07 PM, "Julia Frizzell" wrote: Every one of our users is told when they start, and they get frequent reminders, that nothing not in the Documents folder (save their bookmarks) gets backed up. We keep the Documents folder on the desktop so they can get to it easily, and remind them to make aliases instead of putting files/folders on the desktop. Julia, Seems to me that this is all a matter of how the IT is structured and who has ownership and control over data. If the goal is for IT to design and determine how users can and should work, then your setup works fine (assuming, of course, that everyone saves everything to the designated spot). If, on the other hand, users work in a way that gives them freedom to be comfortable in their work environment (therefore, more productive) then your method isn't as effective. I had a client who was determined to have IT own the workflow and have all documents, etc. reside on the servers. I questioned this logic but I never really got an answer as to how they were going to handle it when the their boss lost data because he just couldn't figure out how to navigate the servers to save his stuff or because he just got back from a 3 week business trip and hadn't had time to move his things to the server yet. Frankly, if a missed deadline caused by lost data costs the company a $x-million fine then something is wrong in the IT structure/workflow/strategy. Obviously, you can see where my preference for user support lies...strongly. I believe that IT is there to *support* our users, not to tell them how to best do their job. Therefore, I vote HUGELY in favor of backing up desktops as well as servers. One can never be too protected. Whew, quite a rant that was. Think I'll go out for a walk. Pam --- Pam Lefkowitz, President Core Computing Technologies, Inc. voice:847/675-3513fax: 847/675-3564 Member, Apple Solution Experts/Apple Product Professional Dantz Development Solutions Provider -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: unix client?
Hi Stephen, on 9/3/01 9:21 AM, Stephen Jones at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about running Samba on the Unix machine and backing it up across the network as an NT volume? This is what I currently do with some Linux servers ... its ok, but I don't let samba "publish" the whole system ... just the user data areas. The biggest problem is that you can't preserve the linux file ownership or permissions. This is acceptable for user data, but not for a whole system. I'm also trialing the Retrospect "beta" Linux client ... it's great! Cheers, Malcolm -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Information Alchemy Pty Ltd ACN 089 239 305 Canberra, Australia Malcolm McLearyMobile: 0412 636 086 Managing Director Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message was sent using Outlook Express 5.0 for Macintosh. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: unix client?
like, leave the volume "mounted" on the backup server and have it back it up that way? - Original Message - From: "Stephen Jones" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'retro-talk'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 5:21 PM Subject: RE: unix client? What about running Samba on the Unix machine and backing it up across the network as an NT volume? Steve Cybernetics -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of andrew Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 5:16 PM To: retro-talk Subject: Re: unix client? The situation I'm in is that the client has this monster 600-gig Unix fileserver that they want to back up, but everything else on the network is NT. The files on the big server rarely change (think optical jukebox--although it's not that exactly, just a huge RAID array with static files on it) but they want it backed up as well in case it should ever crash. Would the beta client be able to accommodate that scenario? - Original Message - From: "matt barkdull" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 4:02 PM Subject: Re: unix client? A linux client is in Beta right now, but no final is out. is there a client for backing up datafiles on a Unix server? -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.