Re: [rkward-devel] Snapshot 7 sep: new plot window too big
Le 14. 09. 10 16:30, Thomas Friedrichsmeier a écrit : Hi, On Tuesday 14 September 2010, Prasenjit Kapat wrote: I see that Thomas has added a new settings in Configure Onscreen device. Can you try the svn code if it helps? I've also added a bit of logic that tries to detect when the window is too large to fit on screen, and points to the settings in this case. This should be available in the next daily builds. Perhaps you can give that a try, to see whether the message is shown for you (and of course whether the new settings work for you). Making the windows smaller by default is not really a satisfying alternative. Whether the window is too large or too small depends on a lot of factors, including your screen resolution, what the X-server believes to be the physical size of your display, and user settings such as the location and size of your task bar, etc. So what's too large for you is just right for another, and already too small for a third user. And the more we shrink the window by default (at least in width), the more likely we are to run into problems with some of the toolbar icons dropping off to the right, on other users screens. great! I got a message first time plot was launched, and followed advice to go to configure, and now it works fine!! good job, thanks! @ Thomas: the width and height are declared as 'int'. By choice? I don't mind it, I am just curious. I simply didn't think about it. Changed in SVN. Regards Thomas -- Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances and start using them to simplify application deployment and accelerate your shift to cloud computing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev ___ RKWard-devel mailing list RKWard-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rkward-devel -- Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances and start using them to simplify application deployment and accelerate your shift to cloud computing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev___ RKWard-devel mailing list RKWard-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rkward-devel
Re: [rkward-devel] Snapshot 7 sep: new plot window too big
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 10:22 AM, mat matthieu.stig...@gmail.com wrote: Le 09. 09. 10 15:25, Thomas Friedrichsmeier a écrit : On Thursday 09 September 2010, Matthieu Stigler wrote: please find in: /home/fao/Dropbox/Public/CaptureRkwardPlot.png For reference for others, here's the public url: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6113358/CaptureRkwardPlot.png Ok, so the plot window is too high to fit into the available space at all. If the toolbar would be hidden, the window would probably fit, but of course hiding the toolbar by default is not a good solution. As far as I can see, the icons are as small as possible, already, and turning off the text labels would save width, but not height. a print scrren of my problem. Basically, just plotting on rkward 0.4.5-test5 (KDE 4.4.2), I can/t see the xlab, nor am I able to resize the window,as the lower right part is not accessible. But maybe I am just stupid and there is an obvious way to solve this in general? Well, the size of the plot window can be controlled in R. See ?x11. To use a smaller size by default, you can run X11.options (width=5, height=5) (width and height need to be specified in inches). I suppose we could offer a graphical option for this in the settings, but it's a bit tricky, since it will need some platform-specific code. So not before 0.5.4 is released, at least. oh that's a pitty! I tried on my laptop with newest version (Ubuntu 10.4,and rkward 4.4.2) , and the problem is still there! Would be great if this could avoided in next release (just by default reduce window size?) as this correspond in some way for me to a regression in rkward features! thanks! mat I see that Thomas has added a new settings in Configure Onscreen device. Can you try the svn code if it helps? @ Thomas: the width and height are declared as 'int'. By choice? I don't mind it, I am just curious. -- Prasenjit -- Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances and start using them to simplify application deployment and accelerate your shift to cloud computing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev ___ RKWard-devel mailing list RKWard-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rkward-devel
Re: [rkward-devel] Snapshot 7 sep: new plot window too big
Hi, On Tuesday 14 September 2010, Prasenjit Kapat wrote: I see that Thomas has added a new settings in Configure Onscreen device. Can you try the svn code if it helps? I've also added a bit of logic that tries to detect when the window is too large to fit on screen, and points to the settings in this case. This should be available in the next daily builds. Perhaps you can give that a try, to see whether the message is shown for you (and of course whether the new settings work for you). Making the windows smaller by default is not really a satisfying alternative. Whether the window is too large or too small depends on a lot of factors, including your screen resolution, what the X-server believes to be the physical size of your display, and user settings such as the location and size of your task bar, etc. So what's too large for you is just right for another, and already too small for a third user. And the more we shrink the window by default (at least in width), the more likely we are to run into problems with some of the toolbar icons dropping off to the right, on other users screens. @ Thomas: the width and height are declared as 'int'. By choice? I don't mind it, I am just curious. I simply didn't think about it. Changed in SVN. Regards Thomas signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances and start using them to simplify application deployment and accelerate your shift to cloud computing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev___ RKWard-devel mailing list RKWard-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rkward-devel
Re: [rkward-devel] Snapshot 7 sep: new plot window too big
Le 09. 09. 10 15:25, Thomas Friedrichsmeier a écrit : On Thursday 09 September 2010, Matthieu Stigler wrote: please find in: /home/fao/Dropbox/Public/CaptureRkwardPlot.png For reference for others, here's the public url: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6113358/CaptureRkwardPlot.png Ok, so the plot window is too high to fit into the available space at all. If the toolbar would be hidden, the window would probably fit, but of course hiding the toolbar by default is not a good solution. As far as I can see, the icons are as small as possible, already, and turning off the text labels would save width, but not height. a print scrren of my problem. Basically, just plotting on rkward 0.4.5-test5 (KDE 4.4.2), I can/t see the xlab, nor am I able to resize the window,as the lower right part is not accessible. But maybe I am just stupid and there is an obvious way to solve this in general? Well, the size of the plot window can be controlled in R. See ?x11. To use a smaller size by default, you can run X11.options (width=5, height=5) (width and height need to be specified in inches). I suppose we could offer a graphical option for this in the settings, but it's a bit tricky, since it will need some platform-specific code. So not before 0.5.4 is released, at least. oh that's a pitty! I tried on my laptop with newest version (Ubuntu 10.4,and rkward 4.4.2) , and the problem is still there! Would be great if this could avoided in next release (just by default reduce window size?) as this correspond in some way for me to a regression in rkward features! thanks! mat Regards Thomas -- This SF.net Dev2Dev email is sponsored by: Show off your parallel programming skills. Enter the Intel(R) Threading Challenge 2010. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-thread-sfd ___ RKWard-devel mailing list RKWard-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rkward-devel -- Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances and start using them to simplify application deployment and accelerate your shift to cloud computing http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev ___ RKWard-devel mailing list RKWard-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rkward-devel
Re: [rkward-devel] Snapshot 7 sep: new plot window too big
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Thomas Friedrichsmeier thomas.friedrichsme...@ruhr-uni-bochum.de wrote: One thing I note is that the toolbar does not appear to remember a changed icon-size setting. I'll have to look into it. Toolbar on the device window... Yeah, the settings are lost... -- Prasenjit -- Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances and start using them to simplify application deployment and accelerate your shift to cloud computing http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev ___ RKWard-devel mailing list RKWard-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rkward-devel
Re: [rkward-devel] Snapshot 7 sep: new plot window too big
please find in: /home/fao/Dropbox/Public/CaptureRkwardPlot.png a print scrren of my problem. Basically, just plotting on rkward 0.4.5-test5 (KDE 4.4.2), I can/t see the xlab, nor am I able to resize the window,as the lower right part is not accessible. But maybe I am just stupid and there is an obvious way to solve this in general? Thanks! Le 08. 09. 10 16:28, Thomas Friedrichsmeier a écrit : On Wednesday 08 September 2010, Matthieu Stigler wrote: Which arrow button do you mean sorry? If it is the usual upper right, it does not help, as it simply extend the window but still I can't see the bottom of window For clarity, I'm attaching a screenshot. This is what I get for plot (1, 1) with no previous device window opened. At the right of the toolbar, there is a small arrow. Clicking it reveals the Remove current plot button. Could you give some more detail on what this looks like for you? Does the window go off the screen to the right, to the bottom, or both? Is the window too large to fit on screen at all, or is it placed too far to the right/bottom, or both? One thing I note is that the toolbar does not appear to remember a changed icon-size setting. I'll have to look into it. What is the active supposed to do? Without knowing much of the plugin, I would personally rather remove duplicate rather than previous/next, I like it pretty much! Well, activate might indeed be a candidate for removal from the default toolbar, too, assuming that most users will work with a single window most of the time. What it does is set the device as active, i.e. subsequent plot calls affect this device. See ?dev.set. Concerning changing button size, I feel in any case something should be done on windows... I had tried the win version and from the main interface the buttons execute line/selection/whole were not available directly, which is quite annoying! Probably this is not really windows-specific, but a lot of parameters affect the size of each button on the toolbar, and screen resolution differs, too. This makes it pretty much impossible to predict just how much will fit on the toolbar. Of course it may be a good idea to trim down the number of buttons that are on the main window toolbar by default. Does anybody use the Previous Window/Next Window buttons? Regards Thomas -- This SF.net Dev2Dev email is sponsored by: Show off your parallel programming skills. Enter the Intel(R) Threading Challenge 2010. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-thread-sfd ___ RKWard-devel mailing list RKWard-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rkward-devel -- This SF.net Dev2Dev email is sponsored by: Show off your parallel programming skills. Enter the Intel(R) Threading Challenge 2010. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-thread-sfd___ RKWard-devel mailing list RKWard-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rkward-devel
Re: [rkward-devel] Snapshot 7 sep: new plot window too big
On Tuesday 07 September 2010, Prasenjit Kapat wrote: Just a thought: can we make the toolbar configurable? User's can keep whichever they use most. Um, yes. Settings-Configure Toolbars... So it's really just about the defaults. Regards Thomas signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- This SF.net Dev2Dev email is sponsored by: Show off your parallel programming skills. Enter the Intel(R) Threading Challenge 2010. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-thread-sfd___ RKWard-devel mailing list RKWard-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rkward-devel
Re: [rkward-devel] Snapshot 7 sep: new plot window too big
Le 07. 09. 10 16:47, Thomas Friedrichsmeier a écrit : Hi, On Tuesday 07 September 2010, Matthieu Stigler wrote: I guess since new buttons have been added to the toolbar of the plot window, it comes on the screen too big, so that the lower right part is not on the screen and I can't reach it. I'm then not able to resize it as I want... Do you see this too? maybe it would be more comfortable if it comes with smaller size by default? which version of KDE is that? Here (with KDE 4.4.4), the toolbar shows a small arrow button in case it does not fit, instead of forcing the window to become larger. I have Ubuntu 10.4 with KDE 4.4.2 Which arrow button do you mean sorry? If it is the usual upper right, it does not help, as it simply extend the window but still I can't see the bottom of window Either way, we should probably save some more space on the toolbar. I'm not really comfortable with changing the default icon size, since this is based on the global user setting. So should we remove some more buttons by default? I think Duplicate is one candidate for removal. Perhaps we could also remove the Previous/Next buttons, now that there is the drop-down button? What is the active supposed to do? Without knowing much of the plugin, I would personally rather remove duplicate rather than previous/next, I like it pretty much! Concerning changing button size, I feel in any case something should be done on windows... I had tried the win version and from the main interface the buttons execute line/selection/whole were not available directly, which is quite annoying! Regards Thomas -- This SF.net Dev2Dev email is sponsored by: Show off your parallel programming skills. Enter the Intel(R) Threading Challenge 2010. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-thread-sfd ___ RKWard-devel mailing list RKWard-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rkward-devel -- This SF.net Dev2Dev email is sponsored by: Show off your parallel programming skills. Enter the Intel(R) Threading Challenge 2010. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-thread-sfd___ RKWard-devel mailing list RKWard-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rkward-devel
Re: [rkward-devel] Snapshot 7 sep: new plot window too big
On Wednesday 08 September 2010, Matthieu Stigler wrote: Which arrow button do you mean sorry? If it is the usual upper right, it does not help, as it simply extend the window but still I can't see the bottom of window For clarity, I'm attaching a screenshot. This is what I get for plot (1, 1) with no previous device window opened. At the right of the toolbar, there is a small arrow. Clicking it reveals the Remove current plot button. Could you give some more detail on what this looks like for you? Does the window go off the screen to the right, to the bottom, or both? Is the window too large to fit on screen at all, or is it placed too far to the right/bottom, or both? One thing I note is that the toolbar does not appear to remember a changed icon-size setting. I'll have to look into it. What is the active supposed to do? Without knowing much of the plugin, I would personally rather remove duplicate rather than previous/next, I like it pretty much! Well, activate might indeed be a candidate for removal from the default toolbar, too, assuming that most users will work with a single window most of the time. What it does is set the device as active, i.e. subsequent plot calls affect this device. See ?dev.set. Concerning changing button size, I feel in any case something should be done on windows... I had tried the win version and from the main interface the buttons execute line/selection/whole were not available directly, which is quite annoying! Probably this is not really windows-specific, but a lot of parameters affect the size of each button on the toolbar, and screen resolution differs, too. This makes it pretty much impossible to predict just how much will fit on the toolbar. Of course it may be a good idea to trim down the number of buttons that are on the main window toolbar by default. Does anybody use the Previous Window/Next Window buttons? Regards Thomas attachment: device_window.png signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- This SF.net Dev2Dev email is sponsored by: Show off your parallel programming skills. Enter the Intel(R) Threading Challenge 2010. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-thread-sfd___ RKWard-devel mailing list RKWard-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rkward-devel
Re: [rkward-devel] Snapshot 7 sep: new plot window too big
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 7:05 AM, Thomas Friedrichsmeier thomas.friedrichsme...@ruhr-uni-bochum.de wrote: On Tuesday 07 September 2010, Prasenjit Kapat wrote: Just a thought: can we make the toolbar configurable? User's can keep whichever they use most. Um, yes. Settings-Configure Toolbars... Ah, never realized there was a Settings there! Sorry. So it's really just about the defaults. Right. -- Prasenjit -- This SF.net Dev2Dev email is sponsored by: Show off your parallel programming skills. Enter the Intel(R) Threading Challenge 2010. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-thread-sfd ___ RKWard-devel mailing list RKWard-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rkward-devel
