Re: Release policy and coordination

2006-06-02 Thread Daniel Stenberg

On Fri, 2 Jun 2006, Dominik Riebeling wrote:

a quick idea on this: how about packaging the (still draft, but hopefully 
this will be better for 3.1) manual to the release fullzip archives?


I totally agree that's what we should do.

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Re: VM Player debian for rockbox

2006-06-02 Thread claus

Perhaps I could help out with an empty VM ... no time to install Debian.
Have a somehow elderly but *legal* VMWare Workstation 4.5.2.

-- claus

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been using (and loving) the VMWare debian install created for 
rockbox. My only problem is I've run out of space on the virtual disk.


Can I beg a bigger copy from someone with a legal copy of the VMWare 
workshop?


Thanks.




Re: VM Player debian for rockbox

2006-06-02 Thread Sander Sweers

On 02/06/06, David McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

VMWare GSX server is now free.


On 6/2/06, claus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Perhaps I could help out with an empty VM ... no time to install Debian.
 Have a somehow elderly but *legal* VMWare Workstation 4.5.2.

 -- claus

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28 wrote:
  I've been using (and loving) the VMWare debian install created for
  rockbox. My only problem is I've run out of space on the virtual disk.
 
  Can I beg a bigger copy from someone with a legal copy of the VMWare
  workshop?
 
  Thanks.





There is a guide (sort off) on the qemu forums how to enlarge an
existing vmware disk image.
http://qemu.dad-answers.com/viewtopic.php?p=3451

disclaimer I have not tried it myself.

Greets


New Forum Proposal

2006-06-02 Thread Paul Louden
It has been suggested that our forum layout could use improvement. I've been thinking a bit about this, and it's been turning over in my head. I'm not 100% sure if this is best put on the development list or the normal list, but it feels to me like the site itself is for most practical purposes a part of the Rockbox project, and that development of the site would qualify. I'll post this to the other list if you all disagree.
Anyway, I've put together a quick wiki page outlining a potential new layout, as well as a quick explanation behind why I thought that might be a good one. It's already been suggested that we cannot completely eliminated Hardware Specific forums (regarding for example installation instructions, or hardware-specific questions) and I think that perhaps trimming it down to one forum per general hardware architecture, and dropping forums for targets that don't have a properly functioning port (iFP, Gigabeat for the moment):
-H100/H300/iAudio X5 (yes, for the X5 the install is quite different, but it falls into the m68k target category, which means bugs relating to processor quirks may overlap, and other hardware specific bugs are probably going to be minimal anyway.)
-iPod (All)-Archos Player, Recorder, FMR, Ondio (It is my opinion these can be lumped. I also don't know enough about them to support this opinion under any fire other than 'I think their install processes are almost the same, and they use the same processor' so someone more knowledgeable with a valid split is welcome to intervene.)
Anyway, the proposal outline is here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NewForumProposalComments very welcome.


Re: New Forum Proposal

2006-06-02 Thread Will Robertson
Hi Paul.I think the forums probably could do with a clean up, and most of the stuff you have suggested rings true, but I think the fact that you've designated sections to bug reporting and feature requests are not needed.
I feel that it makes the bugs/feature requests far harder to track, as you'd have two places to keep track of everything - I'd bet that people would either put the bug only in Flyspray or only in the forums, rarely both. 
Perhaps if we kept the categories for bugs and feature requests, but only have a locked thread linking users to Flyspray should be created to help point users wishing to report a bug in the right direction.Just my thoughts, feel free to reject them as harshly as you please :)
Will.


Re: New Forum Proposal

2006-06-02 Thread XavierGr
Paul, I completely agree on the new forum scheme you suggested. Combining forum activity with flyspray bug/patch reports would be a great gain. This though needs a little more attention from all of us, but I am sure that in the end we will adapt to it.
Right now (with many subcategories, hardware specific) some will not bother to look on specific forums. So I guess the proposed shceme will be better.On 02/06/06, 
Paul Louden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My reasons for those sections are fairly simple.I quite literally read every post that happens in the forums every day. In fact, I've read I believe every post on our forums since sometime in January. During that time I've seen many, many people report bugs that are already on flyspray because they don't know about flyspray, or even report bugs already discussed in a different forum (if it's a general bug, and they're on an iPod, and they report it in the iPod forum even though it's much discussed elsewhere.)
I feel the benefit of this actually ties in with an idea I have for bug reporting: I don't know if flyspray will allow this (though I can't imagine that it'd be that difficult to add). A forum link association with each Flyspray entry. If not added to flyspray itself, then simply request that when someone reports a bug there that has already been discussed somewhat in the forums, they post a link to the thread.
The forum has a much larger community than the relatively small subset that properly posts and expands upon bugs in flyspray. If someone reports a bug in the bug forum, once it's been discussed and confirmed (or if it can't be confirmed but cannot be disproved, or if there's any uncertainty) then we ask them to post it to flyspray, and change the topic of the post to the bug report #. That way any developer can theoretically quickly go from reading a report on flyspray to seeing what the community knows about it (assuming they've properly put a link in their bug description) or see which bugs discussed on the forums have not yet been reported to flyspray.
Of course this would require a bit more attentiveness on the part of myself, and probably require some permissions to be adapted slightly so that the developers group can change thread Topics in the Bugs forum in a similar way to how they can edit bug reports when necessary on flyspray, but I think in the end it will greatly improve the communication between developers and the community.
Many people read the forums seeking help with a problem they're having. Discussing bugs there will help people find temporary workarounds as well as bringing together more easily several people that have the bug. And when someone seeking a quick-fix sees a developer saying We haven't identified the cause yet, and could use more information regarding exactly what circumstances this happens with maybe more people will comment. Flyspray just doesn't have the discussion connotation that the forums do, but I do very VERY strongly feel that it's important that all bugs actually show up there.
As for the feature requests section, again the idea is discussion. Someon on Flyspray says Hey, it'd be neat if Rockbox does X. Developers look at the feature requests for flyspray and generally say It can't be done or I'm too busy with important things. New people or bored people do occasionally look at the flyspray feature requests, especially when referred there after asking What can I do to add to Rockbox? On the other hand, if there's a discussion forum around the topic, someone can say It'd be nead if Rockbox does X and someone else can say Yeah, I think that'd be really cool. In fact, if I recall there's an open source program that does Y, which is close enough to X to adapt. And then person three says Hey, that's a good idea. I've got some C experience. I've never really thought about contributing before, but this should be pretty easy since I know about Y and the program that does it. Etc.
Again, feel free to disagree with any of my points. I do want any and all criticisms of my forum suggestion. I'll defend them primarily for the sake of making sure my reasons for suggesting them are clear, but I'm not so firmly attached that I won't toss them out in the view of something better, or a good reason why my ideas are bad. :)
On 6/2/06, Will Robertson 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Paul.I think the forums probably could do with a clean up, and most of the stuff you have suggested rings true, but I think the fact that you've designated sections to bug reporting and feature requests are not needed.
I feel that it makes the bugs/feature requests far harder to track, as you'd have two places to keep track of everything - I'd bet that people would either put the bug only in Flyspray or only in the forums, rarely both. 
Perhaps if we kept the categories for bugs and feature requests, but only have a locked thread linking users to Flyspray should be created to help point users wishing to report a bug in the right direction.Just my 

Re: New Forum Proposal

2006-06-02 Thread Will Robertson
Hrm, you make many valid points Paul, especially on the fact that Flyspray doesn't really attract the same level of input as the forum does. I guess as long as the issues that are reported on the forums were transferred to flyspray once they were confirmed and discussed, it would keep everything in one place. This would really help developers, they'd be able to just look at flyspray, rather than wade through the forums to find bugs that need fixing, and it might also cut a lot of the crap that's on flyspray at the moment, depending on how it's implemented.
Thanks for the work Paul.


Tagcache rebuild doesn't care of deleted directories

2006-06-02 Thread Gaetano Vocca
Hi all,
maybe I have found a little bug in the tagcache rebuild process.
My audio file a re grouped by composer but tagcache rebuild seems not to care 
of deleted directories 
This is the procedure:
1) Rebuild tagcache
2) Reboot
3) Remove one directory containing all the files belonging to one composer
4) Rebuild cache
5) Reboot

At the end of this process the composer is still present in the Tag menu but 
when audio files are selected for playing an error is issued.
As soon as I have some time I will be happy to try investigating myself.

Gaetano






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Open bugs in Rockbox

2006-06-02 Thread tracker
Flyspray contains 88 open bugs:

2 years 46 days old: Corrupt files using time split feature
6 comments, 0 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/2147

1 years 201 days old: Playback Freezes on Fastforward
3 comments, 0 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/2394

254 days old: Rewinding at end of song confuses playback 
6 comments, 0 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/2687

145 days old: cache refill on FF or REW, even if not necessary
2 comments, 0 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/2894

98 days old: iPod going into USB mode when using the wall charger.
2 comments, 0 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/4724

97 days old: text viewer setting saving not working on ipods
2 comments, 0 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/4729

94 days old: USB Bootloader Mode not working properly
13 comments, 0 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/4753

91 days old: Random resets when playing while plugged in (USB)
1 comments, 0 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/4762

88 days old: Rockbox doesn\'t shut down gracefully on low battery.
7 comments, 0 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/4786

87 days old: \Basic battery monitoring\ not working on ipod nano.
6 comments, 1 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/4795

85 days old: status-bar enabled, problem with screen refresh
3 comments, 0 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/4808

79 days old: Music playback bug during a search of files
3 comments, 0 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/4835

76 days old: Packbox screenblanking fix
0 comments, 1 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/4846

74 days old: Can\'t navigate menus using the H300 remote joystik.
6 comments, 2 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/4860

68 days old: 32000 Hz AAC track plays too fast
4 comments, 1 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/4924

67 days old: iTunes not handling recorded MP3\'s
3 comments, 0 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/4926

67 days old: Play/Stop usage in UI seems inconsistent?
5 comments, 0 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/4933

66 days old: Ipod Video constant ticking and scrollwheel noise bug
2 comments, 0 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/4937

65 days old: Tagcache cache update fails with Prefetch abort at 86AD43D8
7 comments, 0 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/4941

64 days old: H300 - Scrolling causes playback halt
1 comments, 0 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/4948

64 days old: convbdf segfaults on very large fonts
6 comments, 2 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/4955

63 days old: chessbox gets frozen on hold
1 comments, 0 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/4977

63 days old: TagCache Genre Bug
0 comments, 0 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/4978

62 days old: Playback skips with Jewels
0 comments, 0 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/4989

61 days old: Bookmark plays wrong song
5 comments, 0 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/4991

60 days old: logf build broken
0 comments, 0 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/5009

59 days old: Battery level is always on top
2 comments, 0 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/5023

56 days old: RoLo not working correctly on X5
2 comments, 0 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/5063

55 days old: Bookmarking does not work in connection with Tag Cache Database
2 comments, 0 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/5072

53 days old: voice UI: clips not silenced immediately
1 comments, 0 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/5082

52 days old: Accented Characters in Playlists Don\'t Work?
11 comments, 3 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/5089

52 days old: button assignment for A-B repeat
1 comments, 0 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/5091

51 days old: Reporting wrong times/bitrates on mono-encoded files
1 comments, 0 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/5105

46 days old: button_status() and scroll wheel don\'t work
1 comments, 2 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/5162

43 days old: Text viewer crashes when entering wide mode
3 comments, 1 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/5187

42 days old: H120 LCD remote unresponsive in some menus (use player buttons 
instead)
0 comments, 0 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/5191

42 days old: LCD line still active after shutdown
2 comments, 0 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/5199

42 days old: songs lag
2 comments, 0 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/5204

40 days old: AAC broken 22/Apr/2006 Wavpack uploads
1 comments, 0 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/5216

40 days old: Disk label disappears
2 comments, 0 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/5217

39 days old: Archos can\'t start
15 comments, 0 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/5227

39 days old: Backlight left \on\ when booting to original Apple firmware
0 comments, 0 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/5229

39 days old: Keypad HOLD doesn\'t let go until scrolling is used
1 comments, 0 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/5230

35 days old: Crossfade isn\'t working properly anymore
11 comments, 0 files: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/5248

35 days old: