Re: {S-Scale List} Plastic Shapes
Why not make your own out of strips? Paul Vaughn On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 9:02 AM, David Engle riroc...@att.net wrote: Has Evergreen Scale models discontinued H-beam and I-beam shapes above 3/8 ? I can see mounting the KD 802 box between the flanges of a 1/2 I-beam, or maybe a slightly narrower H-beam, and have a couple I-beams on hand. Sacrificing the flanges on the opposite side will result, as no channel stock this big enough to do this seems to be available, either. I can see where a single-piece extension for an 802 box for long-car use would be feasible. Dave Engle
Re: {S-Scale List} 802 coupler boxes
Dave: If you are using styrene for the extension then I would use MEK.
Paul Vaughn
From: David Engle riroc...@att.net
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Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 8:07 AM
Subject: {S-Scale List} 802 coupler boxes
Has anyone had the occasion to cement a KD-802 box to a piece of styrene, such
as an extension mount. What would the best cement for this, either a Tenax,
ACC, or JBWeld type. Thanks Much.
Dave Engle
Re: {S-Scale List} Railmaster old time locomotives
Contact Paul Scoles at pbsco...@yahoo.com as he has built many of them. He has
written articles on building them.
Paul Vaughn
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Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 6:27 AM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Railmaster old time locomotives
Does anybody have any experience with the Railmaster 4-4-0 and 2-6-0 old time
locomotive kits, such as assembly complexity, etc.
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Re: {S-Scale List} painting rails
Go look at the real RR. I have seen rust as my faveroite.
Paul Vaughn
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Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 12:37 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} painting rails
Hi,
I'm trying to decide between rail brown and rust in choosing the correct color
for mainline rail. Thoughts? Opinions? I'm not in position to physically check
real mainline rail.
Ed Davis
Stockton
Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Wheel standards
Bill: As I stated before, I run 88, 93 110 wheel sizes on my layout as long
as they all have the same 'check gage' they operate just perfectly. Now there
is one item that must be taken into consideration: The widest track gage must a
little less than the narrowest wheel width + check gage or the smallest wheel
set will fall in between the rails. This makes track gage a little closer to
perfect.(min)
Paul Vaughn
From: Willam Fraley wjfra...@comcast.net
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2013 5:47 AM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Wheel standards
S Scale Modelers,
To run code 88, 93, 98, 110, 125 or whatever on our rolling stock, is that
really prototypical?
I know they run on a variety of rail sizes, but wheelsets?
I would be interested in knowing if all of our real railroads run different
wheel sets on their equipment?
Simply a curiosity!
Bill (FRaley)
{S-Scale List} Wheel Aizes
All: The real RRs use different wheel sizes. There is a 125 ton Shay in
Shelton, WA that has 7.5 wheel width as I measured them my self!
That works to be a code 117 wheel width in S. So Proto that!
Paul Vaughn
From: richgajnak rustytra...@sbcglobal.net
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2013 7:33 AM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Wheel standards
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Willam Fraley wjfraley@... wrote:
S Scale Modelers,
To run code 88, 93, 98, 110, 125 or whatever on our rolling stock, is that
really prototypical?
I know they run on a variety of rail sizes, but wheelsets?
I would be interested in knowing if all of our real railroads run different
wheel sets on their equipment?
Simply a curiosity!
Bill (FRaley)
That's because the protoype is the prototype and modeling is subject to
interpretation and never the trains shall meet.
Rich G(ajnak)
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Re: {S-Scale List} Wheel Aizes
Hi Bill: that just supports my contension that Proto anything is a bunch of
hooy. Thanks for sharing the photo. Is there anyone close to the loco that
could measure the wheel width on the 2-10-0? I would like to know.
Thanks
Paul Vaughn
From: scale S only scaleso...@cableone.net
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2013 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Wheel Aizes [1 Attachment]
[Attachment(s) from scale S only included below]
Hi Paul --
Don’t forget the regauged Russian 2-10-0s where the
driver centers remained at a 5’ gauge and wider tires were applied with the
flange set inward to the 4’ 8-1/2” gauge of the US. This would mean
that the tire width has to be at least 1-3/4” wider than the
“standard”. This caused trouble with the 2-10-0 that traveled to the
Illinois RR museum when it crossed a self guarding frog and the wheels climbed
up and over the raised part of the frog. The 2-10-0 in Saint Louis
(photo) was not measured, but you can see in the photo how far beyond the
railhead the drivers extend, as opposed to the tender and lead truck
wheels.
Have fun!
Bill Winans
- All: The real RRs use different wheel sizes.
There is a 125 ton
Shay in Shelton, WA that has 7.5 wheel width as I measured them my
self!
That works to be a code 117 wheel width in S. So Proto
that!
Paul Vaughn
From: richgajnak
rustytra...@sbcglobal.net
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2013 7:33
AM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re:
Wheel standards
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Willam
Fraley wjfraley@... wrote:
S
Scale Modelers,
To run code 88, 93, 98, 110, 125 or whatever on
our rolling stock, is that
really prototypical?
I know
they run on a variety of rail sizes, but wheelsets?
I would be
interested in knowing if all of our real railroads run different
wheel sets on their equipment?
Simply a curiosity!
Bill (FRaley)
That's because the protoype is the prototype
and modeling is subject to interpretation and never the trains shall
meet.
Rich
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032.JPG
Re: {S-Scale List} Wheel Aizes
David: Thanks for the info
Paul Vaughn
From: David Engle riroc...@att.net
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2013 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Wheel Aizes
I remember being told years ago that they had 7-inch wide treads.
Dave Engle
--- On Sun, 7/7/13, Paul Vaughn pv_...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Paul Vaughn pv_...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Wheel Aizes
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, July 7, 2013, 3:31 PM
Hi Bill: that just supports my contension that Proto anything is a bunch of
hooy. Thanks for sharing the photo. Is there anyone close to the loco that
could measure the wheel width on the 2-10-0? I would like to know.
Thanks
Paul Vaughn
From: scale S only scaleso...@cableone.net
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2013 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Wheel Aizes [1 Attachment]
[Attachment(s) from scale S only included below]
Hi Paul --
Don’t forget the regauged Russian 2-10-0s where the driver centers remained
at a 5’ gauge and wider tires were applied with the flange set inward to the
4’ 8-1/2” gauge of the US. This would mean that the tire width has to be at
least 1-3/4” wider than the “standard”. This caused trouble with the 2-10-0
that traveled to the Illinois RR museum when it crossed a self guarding frog
and the wheels climbed up and over the raised part of the frog. The 2-10-0
in Saint Louis (photo) was not measured, but you can see in the photo how far
beyond the railhead the drivers extend, as opposed to the tender and lead
truck wheels.
Have fun!
Bill Winans
-
All: The real RRs use different wheel sizes. There is a 125 ton Shay in
Shelton, WA that has 7.5 wheel width as I measured them my self!
That works to be a code 117 wheel width in S. So Proto that!
Paul Vaughn
From: richgajnak rustytra...@sbcglobal.net
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2013 7:33 AM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Wheel standards
032.JPG
{S-Scale List} Re: Wheel standards
Hi all: You have hit on a dear spot for me. Just a note that you can run code
88 thru code 110 on the same track IF all wheel sets have the same check gage!
No new standards need to be generated. I use all three wheel sents on my own
layout (codes 88, 93 110). They all use the same check gage.
Also, PBL is not the only manufacture of wheel sets. NWSL and Precision Vintage
Classics (PVC) also do code 88 110 wheel sets. NWSL will do Sn3 S for you,
PVC has Sn3 with special requests for S. As far as I know PVC is the
manufacture that checks for the correct check gage before sending wheel sets
out or checking them before putting them in their kits.
Remember the Track and Wheel check gages MUST be Equal, as a set dimension!
But, only if you trouble free operation thru track switches.
Both the NMRA and the NASG have the primary purpose of Interchange between
models and layouts. I.E. I can take my stuff to your layout and have a
reasonable expectation of the equipment working correctly. Creating P64, P48,
P87 etc. only creates as bunch of elitists who don't care if their equipment
works on your layout or not. My opinion.
I suggest you check the check gage of every wheel set before running it on your
layout reguardless of the manufacture of the wheel set! S or Sn3 doesn't
matter, check them.
I hope this will help.
Paul Vaughn
1st NMRA Sn3 Standards Chairman
1980-1982
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Sent: Friday, July 5, 2013 10:09 AM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Wheel standards
HI Bill ---
First, I think there is a problem with terminology. P64 used to
imply an exact miniaturizing of the real wheel and rail specifications, but now
seems to include the current scale S (code 88 through 110) wheel
profile. My opinion is that the P64 designation be dropped,
and the standards are either NASG/NMRA (RP 25) or 3/16 AAR (for the exact
copy). If there is to be another set of standards it ought to
be known as Extra Fine scale.
I have to agree that the current standards for “regular” scale S are just
dandy and don’t need to be messed with. As Bill Peter is virtually
the only Sn3 manufacturer, and his stuff is as good as it gets, making any
changes is both inconvenient and polishing the deck chairs on the
Titanic.
I hope I haven’t muddied the water here ...
Bill Winans
NMRA 1750
Re: {S-Scale List} WHAT ADHESSIVE FOR TIES TO TRACK?
Allen: Try using Pliobond on the bottom of the rail then allow to dry
overnight. Using a soldering iron and a gage to put down the rail. This will
hold until you can spike the rail at a later time.
Paul Vaughn
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Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 9:46 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} WHAT ADHESSIVE FOR TIES TO TRACK?
I am hand laying my own track. What would be a good adhesive for getting bass
wood ties to stick to nickel silver track?
Thanks!
Allen Evans
NMRA / NASG
New Orleans Public Belt Model Railroad
Covington, LA
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{S-Scale List} SD9
I am looking for a Overland SD-9 if the price is right. Paul Vaughn
Re: {S-Scale List} two pairs of Bettendorf trucks for trade
Alex: am willing to trade with you.
Paul Vaughn
From: Alex Binkley alex.bink...@sympatico.ca
To: s-scale@yahoogroups.com s-scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 3:21 AM
Subject: {S-Scale List} two pairs of Bettendorf trucks for trade
One set is SHS painted silver and the other is an older make (the name is on
the tip of my tongue but I can't shake it loose.) scale wheels. first choice is
swap for two pairs of roller bearing trucks.
cheers
Alex Binkley
Re: {S-Scale List} two pairs of Bettendorf trucks for trade
Paul Vaughn 9938 257th St. Ct. E.
Graham, WA 98338
USA
From: Alex Binkley alex.bink...@sympatico.ca
To: s-scale@yahoogroups.com s-scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 1:30 PM
Subject: RE: {S-Scale List} two pairs of Bettendorf trucks for trade
You're on.
Where do they keep you?
I'm at
152 Ivy Crescent
Ottawa, Ont.
K1M 1X6
Canada
Alex Binkley
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
From: pv_...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 08:34:02 -0700
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} two pairs of Bettendorf trucks for trade
Alex: am willing to trade with you.
Paul Vaughn
From: Alex Binkley alex.bink...@sympatico.ca
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Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 3:21 AM
Subject: {S-Scale List} two pairs of Bettendorf trucks for trade
One set is SHS painted silver and the other is an older make (the name is on
the tip of my tongue but I can't shake it loose.) scale wheels. first choice is
swap for two pairs of roller bearing trucks.
cheers
Alex Binkley
{S-Scale List} Sn3.5(42)
All: I have a cab and side tanks to convert the Mantua 2-6-6-2 to S Scale. I also have some 4' arch bar trucks. My other Sn3 Scale trucks can have the wheel sets spread to 3.5' gage very easily. I am working on a Sn3 conversion of the Bachmann On30 4-4-0 2-6-6-2 to Sn3. With a change of cab they would not need to have the wheel sets changed for Sn3.5. The tender and tender trucks are another matter, both are too large. All the Sn3 car kits already available only need their wheel sets changed to 3.5' gage to be run on Sn3.5(42). As far as the WPYR trucks go I have both the Barber S2 and Estado all ready which can be regaged to Sn3.5. North Yard, PBL, Rio Grande Models, Railmaster and PVC all have Sn3 car kits available. Change the wheel sets to 0.650 gage and you are up and running. Track Gage: HO/On30/Sn3.5 all will use 0.650 as track gage. 0.0650 = 4' 8.5 in HO, 32.5 in O and 41.6 in S. Sn42 = 0.655. So HO track is close enough for me for Sn3.5(42). Track: I am suggesting using Micro Engineering On30 track for Sn3.5. The ties are more S scale than O scale. My thoughts Paul Vaughn PVC
Re: {S-Scale List} Sn42
Just for you info I have had a 8' x 24.5' flat/gondola for years in Sn3.
Paul Vaughn
PVC
From: David Heine dave...@rcn.com
To: 'S-Scale' S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 2:17 PM
Subject: RE: {S-Scale List} Sn42
Thanks Don,
The width works out to about 8’-4”, so they should work for an Sn42 car. I see
that they are narrower than Bachmann’s “standard” On30 cars which scale out
close to standard gauge width in S.
Dave Heine
Easton, PA
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Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 3:41 PM
To: S-Scale; David
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Sn42
David,
The flat, gondola and tank car are all built on the same body.
I can't locate my scale rule right now - so these are actual dimensions.
The flat cars are 1-9/16 across the deck and 1-11/16 across the stake pockets.
The they are 4-5/8 long over the wooden buffer plates (deck is 4-1/2 long).
The gondola sides and tank are not glued - they lift off easily.
fmg: aka Don Munsey, Jr.
{S-Scale List} Sn42
I am considering doing some WPYR in Sn3.5 but it is the investigation stage. Any suggestions? Paul Vaughn PVC
{S-Scale List} Archbar Trucks
All: I have a friend that wants some S Scale Arch Bar trucks. Contact me off list for availability and price. Thanks Paul Vaughn
{S-Scale List} Re:{Forney Locomotive Project
Question: Did you replace the axels or was there enough length for regaging the
wheel sets?
I am looking at regaging the bachmann On30 to std gage S. If it works it will
be a cheap way of getting a steam loco in S.
Paul Vaughn
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Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 3:58 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Forney Locomotive Project - Anyone Have Baldwin
Builder's Plates?
Thought I'd share some work I've been doing to create a standard gauge
Forney-type 0-4-4 locomotive. I started with the Bachmann On30 Forney. I
removed the pilot wheel and shortened the pilot deck. The remaining wheels were
re-gauged to S standard. All O scale detail was stripped and replaced with
castings from Precision Scale and Tomalco. The cab is a modified Banta kit.
Rivet detail was added from MicroMark rivet decals. The prototype was a plant
switcher for the Russell Co. in Massillon Ohio who built steam tractors and
threshing machines. It was a Brooks product. Here is one of three pics I posted.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-scale/photos/album/724413636/pic/921769865/view?\
picmode=mode=tnorder=ordinalstart=21count=20dir=asc
I don't believe Brooks builders plates were ever made in S, but Baldwin plates
are at least the same shape (round). I figure not many of us can read writing
that small anyhow. SSLS used to offer Baldwin plates, but I see they are
listed as discontinued on their website. Does anyone by chance have a set they
would part with?
Bill Hanslik Jr.
Uhrichsville Ohio
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Re: {S-Scale List} suitcase connectors
Youan buy them at Home Depot a lot cheaper than MicroMart.
Paul Vaughn
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Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2013 11:46 AM
Subject: {S-Scale List} suitcase connectors
I will be starting to wire my new layout soon and I thought I'd get your
opinions on the suitcase connectors I saw in the Micro Mart book. These are
the kind that you clamp them with pliars on the bus wire and it connects to the
wire that goes over to the track. I could see arguments both pro and con.
Kelly Johnson
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Re: {S-Scale List} Gluing Urethane resin building kits
Wash all castings in soap and water, rise thourghly, dry, Sand each joining
surface with sand paper then mix some more resin placing a small amount on the
joint holding the parts square(legos work fine for this) wait 10 minutes or so
and the parts will be joined. Clean up as necessary.
Paul Vaughn
From: Dale dcdew...@charter.net
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Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 5:46 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Gluing Urethane resin building kits
We are having trouble getting The DSL Shops urethane resin building kits to
hold together after gluing. We have tried several different glues including CA
cements, etc but the joints won't hold. Has anybody had good sucess gluing
these nice building together?
Dale DeWitt
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Re: {S-Scale List} Gas Electric Car
My rwo cents. I have a railmaster gas electric and it has DCC in it.
Paul
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Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 8:29 AM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Gas Electric Car
Bob,
You mentioned that you run a gas electric. Do you have a DCC sound decoder in
it? If so, which one? Thank you.
Keith Erhart
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From: Bob Werre b...@phototraxx.com
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 9:45:38 AM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Raduis Roll Call
Rich, Yes whatever you feel good running--just do it. That's the fun part of
our hobby. It's just like sports--on the golf course you can spend all your
time in the high grass, but when your playing a foursome in a tourney, it's a
time for a better show. A time and a place for both.
When I designed my layout, I had hoped for a 3 car heavyweight train (Kinsman
cars) and a 4-5 car streamlined train (JC cars) at a maximum. But as we all
know the twin idols of plastic and brass shined down upon us and gave us more
stuff than we could use. I now have a brass set of Harriaman cars, a short HW
(Southwind set), a short SHS/AM HW set, a gas electric, and a 6 car AM plain
sided streamline set plus a wonderfully built set of those Kinsman waiting for
Soo Line paint and lettering. The JC's are about half built and reside in a
cabinet (I bring them out yearly just to change the air in the boxes)!
Bob Werre
PhotoTraxx
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{S-Scale List} EBT cars
Just thought I would add my two cents. Stewart Models U Channel 2 bay HO hopper
is a closer match to the EBT cars than Athearn cars. I have added a increased
height to my cars and they are acceptable for Sn3. I did use PRS ladders
however and Vulcan trucks.
Paul
From: David Heine dave...@rcn.com
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2012 2:32 PM
Subject: RE: {S-Scale List} Re: Progress on Pennsy/EBT
I'm not modeling the EBT specifically, but I do have models of some of their
equipment, mostly lettered for my own Lehigh Western, plus many more to
build. I wish I would have picked up more hopper kits when they were
available. I may not be able to retire my HO conversion stand-ins for some
time.
However, my own LW has been greatly influenced by the EBT in its concept
and design.
Dave Heine
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Roy
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 3:55 PM
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Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Progress on Pennsy/EBT
I wonder who else out there in S land is modeling the EBT in Sn3?
Roy Hoffman
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Re: {S-Scale List} S Scale Ruler
Office Depot etc has the triangle ruler or Creative Horizons made a metal S
scale ruler in 6 and 12 versions. They were available thru Walthers.
Paul
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Sent: Friday, November 2, 2012 9:33 AM
Subject: {S-Scale List} S Scale Ruler
Looking to purchase a good S scale ruler. I have a General mfg. all gauge
(N,HO,S O) rulers but just noticed the 1 foot mark is actually 4 short for
S scale. All the other increments are good and spaced 3/16 apart but the 0
to 1 is only 1/8.
I've had this ruler for 35-40 years so maybe later runs corrected this issue.
Are there any strictly S scale rulers available and does anyone else have a
General ruler with correct markings?
Thanks,
Butch H.
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Re: {S-Scale List} Fw: [RPM-forum] 91% alcohol for paint stripping body shells .....Source?
Alcohol does not work on all paint. I have used brake fluid to strip plastic
that alcohol would not strip.
Paul
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Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 3:33 PM
Subject: RE: {S-Scale List} Fw: [RPM-forum] 91% alcohol for paint stripping
body shells .Source?
Bob,
If someone has a good way, let me know. I have an SHS SP F-3 that needs to
become a CGW F-3.
Tom
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Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 11:33 AM
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Subject: {S-Scale List} Fw: [RPM-forum] 91% alcohol for paint stripping body
shells .Source?
Good morning!
Has anyone on this list tried the suggested method of stripping SHS diesel
shells?
Have a pair of CNW F-3's that need to become SAL units.
Thanks,
Bob McCarthy
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Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: [RPM-forum] 91% alcohol for paint stripping body shells
.Source?
My local grocery stores each have a store brand, as well as any drug store...
Den
On Oct 30, 2012, at 1:05 AM, slugo2011 wrote:
Group,
I've been using 91% alcohol for stripping paint on Athearn loco. and freight
car shells.
Other than Walgreens, can anyone tell me another reliable source for
91%(or higher) alcohol?
Thanks,
Dave Hertz
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Re: {S-Scale List} S Scale Loco Supply new stainless steel wheels
Code 88 wheel sets work just fine in Sn3. They are available from PVC in 26
dia. The wheel set is ribbed backed and have Denver Griffen on the front.
I can have Standard gage wheel sets made in 33 with the proper check gage if
enought are deposited for. Quanity needed are 1000-2000.
Paul
PVC
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Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} S Scale Loco Supply new stainless steel wheels
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, gftolhurst@... wrote:
I strongly agree with John D. NMRA RP-25 wheels in code 88 have been shown to
work well in HO. Based on my amateur-level understanding of physics, the same
tread profile should work even better in S, due to greater weight of the
equipment.
Code 88 wheels would work as fine in S scale as they do in HO scale and P64
wheels would work as fine in S scale as P87 and P48 wheels do in HO and O
scales. It's not a matter of physics it's a matter of availability and pricing.
If P64 trucks were as easy to get and cost the same as SHS trucks I'd have
standardized on them long ago.
N scalers have proved that small flanges are just as reliable as big flanges so
use the wheels that appeal to you and don't worry about the physics as they
work.DaveBranum
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{S-Scale List} Re:Journal Clean Out Tool
I have a 60 degree clean out tool for tappered journals. $5.00 + 2.00 SH. You will have to do one journal at a time as the tool is not double ended. Paul PVC As someone who is relatively new to S but who has worked extensively in HO, I'm actually pretty impressed by how consistent S scale equipment is, in terms of axle length, coupler height, etc. I found HO products to be all over the map in this regard. Perhaps it's because there are fewer manufacturers in S, but everything - even brass - seems to have the correct coupler height and my NWSL P:64 wheelsets - which came with one axle size - seem to fit just about everything. In some cases, I've had to file down the points on the axle ends or clean out a sideframe a little bit. A useful tool in HO - one I would love to see for scale S - is the Truck Tuner. Reboxx offered one, as does Micro-Mark. Here's a link that explains what it's for: http://www.micromark.com/ho-truck-tuner,8241.html Just a thought for those machinists on the list... - Trevor --- Trevor Marshall Port Rowan in 1:64 I model a steam-era Canadian National branch line terminal in S scale, and blog about it here: http://themodelrailwayshow.com/cn1950s The Model Railway Show Listen in as two S scalers (and recovering radio newscasters) host a podcast about the hobby: http://www.themodelrailwayshow.com Yahoo! Groups Links http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: {S-Scale List} SP#1 Little giant?
The Railmaster kit will need to be cleaned. Each joint needs to be cleaned up
and smoothed out for a good fit. Do each joint and fit check assembly before
glueing/soldering. You will have to follow the instruction to regauge the wheel
sets on the Athearn unit. I have heard that a Kato unit is easier to do.
Paul
From: ken garber garber@gmail.com
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} SP#1 Little giant?
I have one on my very long to-build pile. I like 'critters'.
Yes, it's a flat kit. An older Athearn SW1500 drive will work as should others.
I'm planning on doing a standard guage version - the SP#1 in its final
configuration.
Ken
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 6:21 PM, ctxmf74 c...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
Hi all, I'm working on an HOn3 brass SP#1 diesel now and would like to
build an Sn3 version next. Has anyone built one of the Railmaster kits and can
give me some insight on the process and quality of the results? Looks like it's
a white metal casting flat kit? and needs a modified HO drive which I'm
wondering how hard that is to pull off successfully? :) ...DaveBranum
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{S-Scale List} Buildings
I just bought a 3 story HO hotel by Heljan. It close to the era that I want. I had to add 3' to the bottom of each story to make it the height I was looking for. The doors have to be replaced but the windows are useable. The stairs have to be replaced. This will make a really nice conversion to S scale. Paul
Re: {S-Scale List} Buildings
I will post photos in the photo section later this weekend.
Paul
From: Mike Andrzejewski mike_a_2...@yahoo.com
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Buildings
Paul,
Sounds Nice. Any pictures on how you added the height?
Mike Andrzejewski
From: Paul Vaughn pv_...@yahoo.com
To: S-Scale S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 12:40 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Buildings
I just bought a 3 story HO hotel by Heljan. It close to the era that I want. I
had to add 3' to the bottom of each story to make it the height I was looking
for. The doors have to be replaced but the windows are useable. The stairs have
to be replaced. This will make a really nice conversion to S scale.
Paul
Re: {S-Scale List} brass 45 degree elbows
Make you own by taking some plastic 90 degree elbows and cutting them up. Re
glue the to the sprue and have some one cast them in brass. There are several
who will cast them once you do the masters.
Paul
From: Bill Lane b...@lanestrains.com
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Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 5:45 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} brass 45 degree elbows
Does anyone know when I can get brass 45 degree elbows that are 2-4” fittings
(up to about .06 Dia) in S Scale? I have some 90s but really would like 45s.
Cutting them in half uniformly over 12+ pieces would be difficult.
Places I have already looked without success:
Bills Train Shop
PBL
Precision Scale
Bowser/Cal Scale
Maybe you have some of unknown lineage in your parts stash. Absolute bare
minimum I need is about 12 but would really like up to 24. Please reply
directly with a lead or what you have.
Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1988
See my finished models at:
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Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!
See my layout progess at:
http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm
Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm
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Re: {S-Scale List} Re: PC Switches
Don: Solution is to make each point the same polarity as the stock rail it
mates with. The problem will go away. But you will have to isolate the frog and
have its polarity change as the route changes.
Paul
From: Don McGovern demcgov...@mchsi.com
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 5:42 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: PC Switches
My PBL C-21 has blind drivers and it can short enough on DC to completely
trip the circuit breaker. Suspect setting the points to always clear the
blind drivers would make the turnout look like toy train template!
Don McGovern
3a. Re: PC Switches
Posted by: Paul Vaughn pv_...@yahoo.com pv_sn3
Date: Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:41 pm ((PDT))
Richard: If the points are SET to just clear the Check Gauge then it will be
impossible to short the back side of any wheel set with an open point rail.
This also assumes that the wheel set is correcly set to the check gauge. If
a wheel set is shorting the first thing to check is the wheel check gauge,
front side of one flange to the rear of the opposite flange.
NOTE: the wheel check gage and track check gage MUST BE EQUAL! If they
are not, all bets are off and shorts could occure.
I agree that a point should be the same polarity as the adjacent stock rail
and this will also stop any shorting. This requires a PC throw bar be
gapped.
This brings me to my statement; DC or DCC requires a reversable frog
politiarty. Therefore No such thing as DCC compatable/friendly.
Paul
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{S-Scale List} Shorting Points
I have a solution for you. Use stub switches and your problem will go away. I have stub switch throw bar with real spikes for those who would want them. Just another solution to a problem. Paul
Re: {S-Scale List} PC Switches
Dave: There is NO such thing as DCC ready!!! That was/is a ploy from
manufactures to get you to buy their new products! A switch must meet the same
mechanical and electrical cryteria for DC or DCC! Do not buy into this 'ready'
BS as it is only a marketing ploy.
Paul
From: ctxmf74 c...@ix.netcom.com
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Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} PC Switches
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, shabbona_rr user141771@... wrote:
I've been .060x.125 styrene strip for throw rods.
Haha, be careful that's dangerously close to DCC ready territoryDaveBranum
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Re: {S-Scale List} PC ties
I have used PC ties sence 1966 and yet to have one fail. Only cold solder
joints fail. If you want I can provide you with stub switch throw bars if you
don't like PC tie throw bars.
This method you will not have to file those points!
Paul
From: Bill Lane b...@lanestrains.com
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 4:25 AM
Subject: {S-Scale List} PC ties
My 3 new SHS rail turnouts were built using Fast Tracks tools. The builder uses
PC board ties in a few areas including the throw bar. My choice would have been
solid brass stock. With the stall motors I am using it is mostly a push force
but there probably is a small amount of torsion too.
Has anyone has a PC tie delaminate over time in such applications?
Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1988
See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!
See my layout progess at:
http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm
Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm
PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
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{S-Scale List} Vulcan Trucks
Roy et all: I have Sn3 Vulcan trucks (Celcon with ribbed back wheel sets.) Paul PVC From: royhoffman royhoff...@yahoo.com Thanks Bob, I do have some B.T.S. 2 and 3 bay hoppers, but I wanted to come up with a lot of them like the EBT had. I bought a bunch of MDC HO hoppers for $7.25 each and used S scale EBT hopper decals that I bought from the Friends of the East Broad Top. The wheels were easy to regauge. The few differences are that the trucks aren't the Vulcan trucks used by the prototype and the HO hoppers have an extra rib. I was willing to cut a few corners to acheive my purposes. B.T.S. got me started, but has slowed down in producing EBT products due to lack of sales I suppose. Even though it's hard to model the EBT, it's not impossible. I wrote up my experiences at: http://royhoffman.com/pwrr/EBTinS I hope that some of the info is helpful. Roy
{S-Scale List} PC Switches
I can not beleive you guys are having such a bad time using PC Ties. I have used them sence 1966 with out the problems you are talking about. Try using a 0.015 strip of brass the width of the tie soldered to the point rail. You will have to notch the point base to accomidate the shim stock then solder in place.. Next drill a clearence hole for a 00-90 screw through the shim piece and a tap size hole in the pc tie then tap the tie for the 00-90 srew. Assemble in place. This will allow the points to pivot with out causing stress. Ed Stimpson Jr. did an artical in MR in the 1980's about using PC Ties, you should read it. Brian Ellerby used the closure rail as a flexable rail. A gap was cut near the frog in the closure rail then he spiked only two ties and soldered the point ends to the PC throw bar. Either method works with out the failures you describe. I have been using a 40 watt iron and haven't delamated any PC Tie. My trick is to use liquid rosin solder flux in making the joint. Only heating enough to make the joint. Paul
Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Vulcan Trucks
Vulcan trucks were used by several RRs. EBT, Sumpter Valley. WPYR and under
some tank cars on the DRG. I offer the Vulcan trucks for Sn3 with Code 88
ribbed back wheel sets for $8.95 per set. PBL made the injection molding and I
used my metal wheel sets in them. The side frames and bolster are injected
molded Celcon plastic (Delrin) So what I offer is a joint effort in getting
Vulcan trucks for modlers to use. I can provide them in black or brown. And the
wheel sets are correctly gauged for Check Gauge.
Note: They won't say EBT on the side frames so don't look for it.
I hope this is the info you are looking for.
Paul
PVC
From: leerai...@aol.com leerai...@aol.com
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 4:30 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Vulcan Trucks
Sn3 Vulcan trucks??!! Tell us more, because I need a bunch.
Lee Rainey
{S-Scale List} Vulcan Trucks Ording info
The trucks are $8.95 per set. I normally charge SH of $2.50 per set if you only order one pair. If 10 pairs are ordered then I will only charge $6.00 and will ship by USPS if it fits it ships boxes. I can get 10 pr in the small box. Please state black or brown. Send a check or money order to: Precision Vintage Classics 9938 257th St. Ct. E. Graham, WA 98338 WA, residents add 7.9% sales tax. From: leerai...@aol.com leerai...@aol.com To: pv_...@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 7:03 PM Subject: Re: Vulcan Trucks Paul, How do I send you an order for the Sn3 Vulcan trucks? What is the price per pair of trucks with wheelsets, shipping, what kind of payment methods do you prefer? This fills a hole in my modeling ! Lee Rainey
Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Vulcan Trucks
John: Go to their web site. Last I knew they were at least until supplies ran
out.
Paul
From: John armstong5...@roadrunner.com
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Vulcan Trucks
Is BTS still producing brass Vulcans?
John Armstrong
- Original Message -
From: Paul Vaughn
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Vulcan Trucks
Vulcan trucks were used by several RRs. EBT, Sumpter Valley. WPYR and under
some tank cars on the DRG. I offer the Vulcan trucks for Sn3 with Code 88
ribbed back wheel sets for $8.95 per set. PBL made the injection molding and
I used my metal wheel sets in them. The side frames and bolster are injected
molded Celcon plastic (Delrin) So what I offer is a joint effort in getting
Vulcan trucks for modlers to use. I can provide them in black or brown. And
the wheel sets are correctly gauged for Check Gauge.
Note: They won't say EBT on the side frames so don't look for it.
I hope this is the info you are looking for.
Paul
PVC
From: leerai...@aol.com leerai...@aol.com
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 4:30 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Vulcan Trucks
Sn3 Vulcan trucks??!! Tell us more, because I need a bunch.
Lee Rainey
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Re: {S-Scale List} EBT Fall Spectacular 2012
Why to Penn State? What is there?
Paul
From: royhoffman royhoff...@yahoo.com
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} EBT Fall Spectacular 2012
That would be fine. We Central Pennsylvanians need something to cheer us up.
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, John armstong5717@... wrote:
I heard we are to meet at Lee Raineys house, Then go to Penn States stadium
seeing they don't use it anymore.
John Armstrong
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Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:23 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} EBT Fall Spectacular 2012
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Re: {S-Scale List} pave this!
All: Try using Bolt Rail Cement (Gray) from Home Depot. This was in Paul
Scoles new book 'Building Scenery' explaned on page 74 on.
Paul
From: Bill Lane b...@lanestrains.com
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 1:36 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} pave this!
Has anyone used this? http://www.ebay.com/itm/110950834091
It does not look like you will get very far with 1 jar. I have grade crossings
I have to repair because I changed the track. I think it was originally done
with spackle.
Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1988
See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!
See my layout progess at:
http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm
Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm
PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
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{S-Scale List} : Switches
Just to add my 2 cents, I can show a photo of a pointless double slip switch.
How about a 5 way pointless slip switch. How about a gauntlet switch. FYI they
all were used on NG railroads.
From: David Heine dave...@rcn.com
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 8:11 PM
Subject: RE: {S-Scale List} turnouts for SHS rail
Bill,
From what little I know, curved frogs are more common in some other countries
than in the USA. You can see lots of them in picture of British trackwork.
In my case, I have built several turnouts with curved frogs on my layout and
there will be more.
You should consider trying to build your own turnouts, it’s not that hard, and
a lot cheaper than commercial or custom made turnouts. It also allows you to
do things you couldn’t fit in using just commercial turnouts. If you ever get
to see Dick Karnes’ layout; you will know what I mean. In my own case I have a
dual gauge curved turnout, immediately followed by a curved crossing on the
diverging end. Last month, I built an asymmetrical wye turnout, where the two
routes are a different angle; if I had used a standard turnout, I would have
had to put a jog in the track. That one was easy, it was only standard gauge.
And if you don’t think the prototype builds funky trackwork, I can show you
pictures of a dual gauge stub switch with a dual gauge crossing through it.
Two of the rails cross through a frog.
Dave Heine
Is there such a thing as a curved frog? I have at least 2 sets of curved
crossovers in mind. I can easily live with the slightly oversized bolt details
if needed. Given I will probably need 10 new turnouts tops for this rail making
something new would be a huge effort. I will update my decision once Don T or
Charlie Leonard see the castings.
Thank You,
Bill Lane
{S-Scale List} Re: Standardization of wheels......
I find this discussion flawed as the dwg of a wheel set still uses a Back to
Back dimension. Back to Back has nothing to do with a correctly gaged wheel
set! It is Check gage that is most Important with the track and wheel
check equal to each other inorder to have derailment free track work. You can
have mulitple wheel sizes work on the same track IF they use the same check
gage. That includes the shitty looking flyer wheel sets. I use code 100, 93
88 wheels on my railroad all work perfectly as they all have the same check
gage.
There is no excuse for having three different wheel contours on the same
engine. Just plane lousy engineering.
Paul
From: bcgsteam bcgst...@yahoo.com
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 8:45 AM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Standardization of wheels..
Ed,
I thought you might have the specifics on this. Three flanges on one
engine...amazing! The S SIG is working hard to promote using S standards among
scale manufacturers. Maybe someone needs to work just as hard to get a set of
standards for 'non-scale' manufacturers, if that's even possible.
Brooks
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Ed Loizeaux@... wrote:
there are no standards for 'hi-rail' wheels. I don't believe that AM, SHS
(now MTH) and Lionel (to name three) all use the same profiles.
BrooksIt is even worse than that. I recently inspected a Lionel
articulated and found it had three different flange sizes on the same loco.
There were tender wheels, driver wheels and pilot/trailing truck wheels --
each different from the other. After I pointed this out to a Lionel
employee, he said that was something they could improve upon. Next year's
batch of locos might be better as a result. Cheers...Ed L.
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Re: {S-Scale List} Track Switches
I wonder why the stand that moves the points of a switch is called a Switch
Stand. It is not call a turnout stand, so why call a switch a turnout. Pet
pieve of mine.
Why don't people build a switch? It is so easy. You do need PC ties. You can
build to a #'d size or you can make it fit what you need. As long as your
equipment will go around the radius, you can build a switch to that radius. I
have built switches from 24 Radius up to 48 Radius. All at my work bench then
installed on the layout.
Remember, #'d switches require your layout to be adjusted to the switches but
if you build to the radius/curve you need then you build the switch to the
layouts needs. This shortens the lead length required of the switch.
This pratice was used by the EBT and WPYR as both built their own switches to
their needs. The White Pass had a gauntlet switch with the points on the ground
and the frog on the warf. This kept the trucks from driving accross the points.
My two cents
Paul
From: Tom Hawley t.haw...@comcast.net
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 11:43 AM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Track Switches
- Original Message -
From: Bill Lane
. . . . . . . . . He also mentioned Marcway turnouts which I have never
heard of.. . . . . . . .
Marcway was the British maker of the Whiteoak turnouts.
Tom Hawley -- Lansing Mich
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Re: {S-Scale List} 3/32 Styrene / Metal / Brass Rod ?
Go buy Evergreen styrene tube #223 at your local hobby shop. It is 3/32 dia.
Paul
From: John Degnan scaler...@comcast.net
To: undisclosed-recipi...@yahoo.com
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 8:12 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} 3/32 Styrene / Metal / Brass Rod ?
Looking for a soure for 3/32 diameter styrene, metal
(aluminum) or brass rod (not tubing).
I only need a piece about 6 long, +/-, so if anyone has a
scrap piece lying around... wanna part with it?
Thanks.
John Degnan
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Re: {S-Scale List} Sn3 dumping?
There has been a couple of Sn3ers who passed away or their health is failing
severly. We all are growing older so nothing is new.
Paul
From: Bill Lane b...@lanestrains.com
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 8:07 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Sn3 dumping?
Is it me or has there been a major dumping of Sn3 lately? There is no less than
10 high end PBL locos and a ton of car on eBay now.
Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1988
See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!
See my layout progess at:
http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm
Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm
PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls
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Re: {S-Scale List} Alco Models RS-3: Take It Off My Hands Please!
Chris: Did you come up with a bid for the RS3 that is acceptable to you?
Still interested
Paul
From: westfield_depot cborgme...@me.com
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 2:12 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Alco Models RS-3: Take It Off My Hands Please!
Well, every now and then we get burned and that was my case at this past Spring
S Spree. I picked-up a brass Alco Models (built by Samhongsa) RS-3 painted for
Jerry Schnur's COR home road. It barely runs, sounds like a meat grinder and
the body is too far from that of an RS-3 for my rivet counting ways. If
someone out there in S land would like a nice project loco or maybe a nice
brass fuel tand or sideframes for something else make me an offer. I'm tired
of looking at it. Just about anything North of free takes it plus shipping.
Accepting offers through Sunday noon EDT.
Chris Borgmeyer
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Re: {S-Scale List} creating a 45 tonner
I may add some insite to this delima. A bachmann On30 Gas-Mechanical would be a
starting point for the drive and the outside counter weights. The wheels can be
spread to fit. The body and cab will have to be scratched or an HO 50 tonner
body may work for the hoods. You will need two of the bachmann units however
(45.00 ea)
Paul
From: JGG KahnSr jacek...@hotmail.com
To: s-scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 12:13 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} creating a 45 tonner
I wasn't referring to your wanting a 45-tonner but to the several other list
members who urged you to start with
a 44-tonner. It would really be easier to start from scratch with styrene and
an HO drive--the siderods are the least
of the problems, as they only go along for the ride in smaller scales--of which
there is quite a selection.
Jace Kahn
General Manager
Ceres Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
From: empirebuilderjjh...@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 17:01:22 +
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Another idea for creating a 45 tonner
Jace,
My fixation with this 45 tonner comes from the fact that it is the only
true locomotive to operate in the Valdez Yard and the one piece of
operational motive power I thought I might have a chance of making.
There was a wheel loader equipped with a coupler that worked in the yard and
I intend to produce this by modifying an Ertl 950E, but this could only be
powered by the 0-5-0 hand.
The other two units that worked in the Valdez Yard were a Whiting Trackmobile
and a CF-55-AF Aircraft Tug, and I don't think that I'll be able to make
either of these simply because, to my knowledge, no similar vehicles exist in
`S'.
That leaves the GE 45 ton.
I'd heard that it is possible to create some SN3 locomotives by modifying
certain standard gauge HO engines. I was hoping that the reverse might be
true and that I might be able to create a standard gauge `S' 45 tonner by
modifying a ON30 45 tonner. Unfortunately, this idea wasn't a very good one…
Here are the pictures of both the GE 45 ton and the other motive power the
operated in Valdez.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/photos/album/1380536279/pic/list
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--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, JGG KahnSr jacekahn@... wrote:
What is this fixation on trying to use ANYTHING from a 44-tonner to create
a 45-tonner? Exceptperhaps for a few detail parts, it simply won't
work--the cab is lower (and wider) and the frameis conspicuously shorter
(5'-6'--and that is a LOT). In S scale scratchbuilding is the only wayto
go, probably using an HO standard gage diesel drive.
Jace Kahn
General Manager
Ceres Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.
I suggest starting with a 44 tonner and using 25 tonner hoods
TCC:}
On May 10, 2012, at 7:48 PM, empirebuilderjjhill wrote:
Do you think double ending a Railmaster 25 tonner with a second
hood would work?
Even if I was able to make the body of the 45 tonner using this
technique, I'd still have to figure out how to make the trucks and
those push rods…
Talmadge C 'TC' Carr
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Re: {S-Scale List} Coupler Problems.......(if any)
Ed: I hope that you include uncoupler's in your review. My uncoupler works with
rail thru Code 148 while under the track. After ballasting they are not visible
and it only uncoupler cars when the operator wants to uncouple the cars. I have
demonstrated them at O Scale west for the last 3or 4 years. My uncoupler works
the Kadee's without modification to the couplers stock out of the box and
installed on a car. The biggest advantage is no one has to reach over the
layout to uncouple the cars. And Yes the uncoupler will delay Kadee's even
using code 148 rail.
Paul
PVC
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 15:15:36 -0700
Subject: {S-Scale List} Coupler Problems...(if any)
Gents….
I am beginning to prepare a comprehensive (I hope) article about couplers for S
scale. I intend to discuss Kadee S, Kadee HO, SHS, Walthers HO and AM’s dummy
coupler in some detail. I am not planning to discuss any other couplers unless
they are currently commercially available. Please let me know if I have
omitted any brand or type coupler that is currently commercially available.
I was thinking it might be good to solicit comments from everyone regarding
their experiences – both good and bad – with the above couplers. I am
particularly interested in learning of specific situations where a particular
coupler solved an unusual problem when no other coupler would suffice. Also,
what are the shortcomings or dislikes of each coupler. Is there a common
problem with the trip pin working loose from the knuckle casting on some
couplers? And, not to be negative, what are the features you really like the
most about each coupler. What are its unique advantages?
My goal is to cover all the bases as thoroughly as possible. Please let me
know your thoughts so that I can include them in the article. OFF LIST would
probably be better, but I don’t personally particularly care. If you want to
share experiences on list, let’s go for it!
Thanks….Ed L.
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Re: {S-Scale List} new uncoupler
I have an uncoupler that works with Kadee's without modification to the Kadees
and does not use electricty and only uncouples when you want it to. PN UR -3,
9.95 ea and ready to install. My uncouplers do not fail.
Paul
PVC
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Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2012 1:14 PM
Subject: {S-Scale List} new uncoupler
Friends,
I recently needed to replace an uncoupler ramp that had failed. I had been
making my own using an idea from local master Gill Freitag.
While operating on another friend's layout, I asked him what he was using. He
showed me some units he was building and offered to build an S friendly version.
Well this past weekend, I proceeded to remove the old unit, which was a chore
unto itself. During the initial installation I simply cut a slot with a sabre
saw and then widened it with a rotary rasp on a power drill to custom fit the
ramp. Of course track and ballast completed the project.
In this removal process, I had hoped to pull the unit down so as to not disturb
the track--wishful thinking! I had to purchase a multi-tool (which is another
complete story I won't go into) that helped enough to where I was finally able
to let me remove the unit. I think this is like a doctor removing tonsils
through one's nose!
Anyway I've now inserted the new unit, but I'm having trouble getting electrons
to move through the wires. When I get that solved, I've got to relay a few
inches of track and I'll once again have a long 30' siding in operation. A
photo of the new ramp next to the old one is in my PhotoTraxx photo album.
Bob Werre
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Re: {S-Scale List} Homosote Board
Cuts sb about 3/4 the way into the strip. At 40 Radius the spacing can be 1/2
to 3/4 apart. The cut edge is always to the inside of the curve.
Paul
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Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 11:53 AM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Homosote Board
I have a quantity of 7/16 Homosote board that I would like to saw up into
strips 3 in. wide for roadbed in yard area, vs. mainline setting. Some will be
straight, some will go on curves no less than 40 radius. How deep into the
board width should the lateral cuts be, and what spacing between the cuts
should be best? Thanks Much. DJE
Re: {S-Scale List} Low Cost Uncouplers..
I have an under the track uncoupler that works without any modification using
Kadee 802s. I will have a demo track at the O Scale west this Thursday in Santa
Clara. Once the uncoupler is installed and the track ballested you don't see
it. It does not uncouple the cars when you park a train over it. It oinly works
when you want it to.
Price is $9.95 ea + SH
I hope this helps.
Paul
PVC
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Graham, WA 98338
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Subject: {S-Scale List} Low Cost Uncouplers..
I'd like to try something, but don't have the part.. If an HO switch track were
partially disassembled and mounted vertically between the rails of an S scale
track, would the frog be strong enough to uncouple cars? If the frog rail were
to be weighed down some, would it fall back down or would you have to flip the
switch to raise/lower it? It'd be a fairly large cavity to hollow out for the
mechanism to fit, but nearly invisible afterwards, the remaining frog rail
could be painted to match your roadbed. I even thought about using an N scale
switch frog, but don't know if it'd be strong enough to lift AF compatable
couplers. If I had the cash, I'd go magnamatic, but I don't. If anyone has a
few small scale switches, let me know if this can work. Other cost-saving
uncoupler ideas also welcomed. I'm sure we could all use a few more uncoupling
spots on our layouts that don't cost a fortune.
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Re: {S-Scale List} details
Try PBL they have tank cars and the stantions are seperate.
Paul
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Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} details
Speaking of such things, I have been needing tank car handrail stanchions.
Any suggestions? I might have to see if I can get them done in lost
wax/ plastic...
I don't know what profile you need, but the old Athearn Blue Box handrail
stanchions (especially the long length ones) have come in handy in the past.
They seem to still be available. They were clunky on HO diesels, but look a
lot better in some S scale applications.
Stan Stokrocki
{S-Scale List} S Scale NASG/NMRA track gauge
I have been trying to not get into this discussion, but! I submitted RP-3 RP-4 dimensions and they were passed by the NMRA in 1980. Those dim allowed the use of a common frog by S and Sn3 track work and using a code 110 wheel with a S track gage of 4' 8.5. I was told by then pres of the NASG that I was full of it and didn't know what I was talking about. Now comes along the NASG and changes my dim by only 0.003 so they can claim ownership of my work. This did not make me happy. Then the NASG put out a statement that the NMRA finally joined them in accepting the NASG standards. More likely the NASG joined the 1980 RP 34. The 1980 wheel size was a code 135 wheel or a 'Oh my god' size flyer wheel. Flyer used a 4' 8 track gage. Not a scale dim. The NASG has finally accepted 4' 8.5 as track gage. The NASG came out with a standards gauge and I am thankful for that effort. There is no need of two org. doing the same work. Blasting an org. for not making a gauge when one existed is small thinking in my mind. Be thankful that both org. are working for the same end, interchangability! That means that you can take your equipment to another S scaler's layout and have a reasonble expectation of running on that layout without problems if both of you use the same check gauge. Now we have the Proto 64 eliteist coming into the game. They are after complete scale wheel size and track work thus throwing out interchangability out the window again. I guss we have to make room for everybody and the way they want to model. My thoughts Paul
{S-Scale List} Re:Uncouplers
Bob: My uncoupler works with the 802s without modification and delays as intended for O standard gauge and S standard gauge. It installs under the track and is out of sight. I have told Kadee about lengthening the pin but they are not going to change any thing. I will be at O scale west again in Feb with my demo display. Howard of Howard Trains and others have seen it work. Paul Bob, what has been your experience with uncoupling--especially the magnetic uncoupler ramps? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
{S-Scale List} Kadee 802
All: I have put together 802s for some time and never lost a spring. With all the 'I can't do it' on this list it makes me wonder if the complainers can even put together any type of kit from any manufacturer. The trick to assembling 802s is you have to smarter than the 802s. Paul [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
{S-Scale List} Re: Stripping Paint
I have used brake fluid and alcohol on plastic models for years with no
detramental effects. I have also used super clean(Draino) with varing success.
Some paint like the stuff on AHM ore cars defy removal. Some cars from Austria
are not easy to strip. I have used all three chemicals inorder to get the job
done. I don't know about SHS cars etc.
Paul
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Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Stripping SHS shells
Try Super Clean, Google on line, available at Ace Hardware.
Will take off paint and not harm plastic, at least paint like Floquil.
Mike
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I've need to strip paint from some SHS F7 shells and wondered what works best
or well in this situation. I've used everything from 91% rubbing alcohol to
brake fluid on brass models in the past, but not on plastic and don't want to
harm the shells. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Butch
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Re: {S-Scale List} Re: NWSL Wheels
All: I have listened to this for some time and the correct answer is the check
gage for the wheel set(reguardless of contour) must equal the check gage for
the track!! The new problem is the track gage max you have on you layout
must be rechecked to make sure the track gage is not too width when running the
smaller wheel tread width. I found this on my own layout. I use Code 110, 93
88 wheel widths. Now I can back thru any part of my layout with out problems!
Also I use 24 radius curves.
Paul
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Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 8:31 AM
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: NWSL Wheels
FolksOne of the things to remember is that P:64 wheels should be operated
on P:64 trackwork for best results. Running P:64 wheels on ordinary
trackwork will result in less-than-optimum results especially when backing up.
Ed L.
Using the scale 40 geared ones available for S-Helper switchers has been
more problematical. For some reason,and perhaps it's just me, they tend to
derail unless the track is perfect.
Alan Coughlin
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{S-Scale List} Re: Code 88 Wheels
I already sell code 88 wheel sets in 26 dia.
Paul
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Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: NWSL Wheels
There is also code 88 soon maybe :D
TCC:}
On Dec 12, 2011, at 12:47 AM, ctxmf74 wrote:
There's only 2 choices of NWSL wheels as far as I know, regular S
scale code 110 and Proto64 code 87.
Talmadge C 'TC' Carr
Sn42 and Hn42 somewhere in the wilds of the Pacific Northwest
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{S-Scale List} Re: Code Wheels
Code 93 is what PBL has in thier Sn3 trucks. They are 26 in dia. The flanges
are slightly larger. A compromise between code 110 and code 88. When you use
the same check gauge for wll the different Code wheels using the largest flange
as master then all the different sizes will work. If you set the check gauge
for the smallest flanges then you could incure a problem or two. I prefer to
have all wheels work on my layout. Only the rivet counters care. Remember any
one that uses the same check gauge can operate on my layout the reverse is not
true of a Proto XX layout. The premise of the NMRA and NASG is to have
equipment from one layout work on some ones else's layout or interchange of
equipment. The elitest in Proto XX don't want to interchange with every one
else. Remember the basic difference is only check gage between Proto XX and the
accepted hobby standards of the NMRA and NASG. Buildings, Cars, trucks, etc are
the same as we both use the same scale
to build with.
Paul
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Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: NWSL Wheels
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I use Code 110, 93 88 wheel widths.
Hi Paul, Where do you get code 93 wheels? and how large are their flanges
compared to P64 wheels? always nice to have a wider range of
choicesDaveBranum
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Re: {S-Scale List} Kadee products
The resons are Taxes and labor costs to start with. Next is the costs of getting injection dies made and finding someone to shoot them at a reasonable cost. I my case the cost per part was acceptable only when I would buy at least 1,000 parts from each die. This brings me to the the next point if I have produce product that sells 500 or so what do I do with the other 500 items? This action just doubled my cost. All set up fees are on the first run. I do make my products in the USA. Precision Vintage Classics From: John wrote: After 30 years of buying Kadee products, it's neat to know that they're all American made and they do it all in White City. Begs the question, why can't other do their manufacturing here rather than you know where John A. AlbeeJohn Albee [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
{S-Scale List} Log Dimensions
All: There is no such thing as narrow gage logs or standard gage logs! A tree is a tree reguardless of diameter. Some trees are 20' in height varing to 350' + in height. So log dia varies with the height of the tree while standing. Also the is no such thing a a narrow gage building. Paul Ed, What are standard gauged logs? Bill Bill A standard gauged log (on the Mighty NYC) is the trunk (aka log) when cut from a standard gauged tree. Now for those still questioning things in the narrow vs. standard forest, I can only add that if the overall appearance of a log is pretty much what you want on a standard gauged car, then it qualifies as a standard log. On the other hand, a narrow log is just that -- too narrow. Got all that? This concept can also be used effectively to define standard rocks, standard girders, standard rivers, standard mountains, and so forth. The application of this concept goes far beyond mere measurement and division by 64. It is a step forward for all mankind. SmilesEd L. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: {S-Scale List} Installing Couplers on an AM PA
Stiffen behind the pilot with some layers of styerene. Fill in the pilot with styrene also. You will have to cut off the truck coupler lever at the gearbox. Its cut and fit. Make sure the coupler box is at the correct height for coupler center above the track. Paul --- On Sun, 9/4/11, strain97009 bor...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Group, I am now wanting again to install KD couplers on some AM PA's. What have you done to acomplish this? I think I could drill and body mount the rear couplers and the ones on the B unit but what about the front couplers? Any help or suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks Bob Boring [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: {S-Scale List} Kadee Uncoupling Magnets
There under the track magnet might work but you will always uncouple when
stopped over it.
The Precision Vintage Classics UR-3 works and only uncouples when you activate
it. It installs under the ties thru the roadbed and comes assembled ready to
install. No modification of the car couplers is required. It works with the
stock Kadee 802 coupler box and coupler spring.
Paul
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Subject: {S-Scale List} Kadee Uncoupling Magnets
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, September 3, 2011, 8:56 AM
Question:
Do the Kadee permanent magnet uncouplers for HO work well for Kadee 802
couplers? Are the magnets wide enough to pull the 802 couplers apart?
Thanks.
Dan Vandermause
Ellicott City, MD
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Re: {S-Scale List} Speaker Question
They work great.
Paul
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Subject: {S-Scale List} Speaker Question
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Date: Monday, August 8, 2011, 11:16 AM
Hi All:
It's time to order my DCC/sound decoders and speakers for my Baldwin projects.
Think I've got an answer for the decoder part.
BUT... the speakers are still a question mark.
Any of you have any experience with the new Bass Reflex speakers from
Railmaster USA? How about their High Bass speaker w/enclosure? (Looks like
the 23mm square High Bass speaker would fit inside the AM S-12.)
Anyone?
Thanks in advance.
Andre Ming
aka MTM
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{S-Scale List} Cut Off Tools
Harbor Freight Tools has a small dremel like tool that will handle the dremel cut off blade for $4.95. At least that is what I paid for mine. Also: If you have a track with a diverging route, You have a N rail and a S rail. At the frog with the route aligned for straight thru the the frog must have the N polarity. If the route is for the diverging route then the frog must have the S polarity. It is the same for both DC and DCC. Or you will have an insulated frog! I guss you can live with black smoke and arcing if you don't chage the frog poliarity. Paul [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: {S-Scale List} Re:do guard rails actually work?
Only if the train derails. Paul --- On Tue, 8/2/11, Bob Werre b...@phototraxx.com wrote: From: Bob Werre b...@phototraxx.com Do guard rails on bridges, turntables etc. actually work or are they mostly cosmetic. I've never put in a short run of additional rails in one little area, now I'm wondering if it'll do any good. Bob Werre [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: {S-Scale List} S Scale in Vancouver
Bill: How are things in Airzona State? Things are just fine here in
Washington! WashingtonState is a University. Please quit calling incorectly my
green state!
Paul
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Date: Sunday, July 31, 2011, 9:53 PM
Hello John --
The NASG directory shows no Canadian S modelers west of Alberta. I suspect
the nearest S guys are in The northern tip of Idaho and across Washington
state, most of them being in the Seattle area. If you contact me directly, I
will pass along their emails and or/ addresses. Several of the fellows in the
Seattle area are experts in both scale S and Sn3.
Have fun!
Bill Winans
Prescott Valley, AZ
NASG western VP
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From: John Livie
As yet i have heard nothing from anyone regarding my request for someone in
Vancouver i can get in contact with regarding joining an S Scale group.
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{S-Scale List} Re: Couplers
I have plenty of couplers. Thanks Paul PS: Glad to hear the car worked out. P. Hi Paul --- You never answered whether or not I owe you a set of couplers. Have fun! Bill W. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
{S-Scale List} Change the Subject!
You have not talked about modeling for quite a while. Stay focused.
Paul
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Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} The Madness Continues...
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Date: Sunday, July 31, 2011, 12:12 PM
The original ham actor.
John Armstrong
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From: Rollain Mercier
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Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: {S-Scale List} The Madness Continues...
and he notes -
Larry 'Buster' Crabbe played both serial roles - he was listed as
'Buster' in the Flash Gordon series (1936) and as Larry in Buck
Rogers (1939). Both serials were made by Universal and used many of
the same props. One such of interest was the subterranean railroad
used in both series which connected 'Killer' Kane's lair to the
spaceport in the Buck Rogers film and again in the Flash Gordon
serial where it ran in the 'secret' city.
I have these films in my collection and they're always fun to watch!
Raleigh in Sunneigh Maineigh...
At 11:10 AM 7/31/2011, Thomas Baker wrote:
OH, oh! Old Timers disease kicked in. You're right. Flash Gordon, of
course. Did Buster Crabb take that role. Maybe that memory is off,
too. Mike Foth and I were just kids, I eight, he seven. Meanwhile
that Baldwin looks more and more like a DS 4-4-1000 every time you
put in a photo.
Tom
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Re: {S-Scale List} Gripe
Try hilighting the prior messages then hit delete or back space both work. But
you have to do it and that takes maybe 15 seconds of effort.
Paul
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Subject: {S-Scale List} Gripe
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, July 31, 2011, 8:50 PM
Guys, is there any way that we can practice responding to posts so that
each and every reply DOES NOT contain all previous posts?
Tonight's digest was 90% repetition.
Thanks,
John Griffin
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Re: {S-Scale List} Rusting spikes
Prototypical isn't it.
Paul
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Subject: {S-Scale List} Rusting spikes
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, July 17, 2011, 5:23 PM
In several areas my spikes have rusted, leaving a sizable splotch of rust on
and in the ties, and on the rail web and base. I'm trying to figure out if this
starts in the ballasting process (place ballast, spray with alcohol, soak with
dilute white glue trying not to get any on tops of ties) or if it's more likely
happening in the scenery process which comes before and after the ballasting
process. Any ideas? Prevention? Cleaning off the existing rust?
-Michael Eldridge
-basic hill is in place, rock castings next
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{S-Scale List} Frog question
Chris and all: Please there IS NO SUCH THING A DCC FRIENDLY SWITCH The
poliarty of the frog is the same for DC or DCC. It needs to change with the way
the switch is thrown! Or if using DCC get a frog juicer and stop worying about
it!
Dcc compatable term was generated by some HO switch manufactures as a ploy to
sell their latest version of track and switches.
Paul
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Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Insulated frog question
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 8, 2011, 4:26 AM
Ed,
Not the worlds most user friendly website but a lot of useful info can
be found at http://www.wiringfordcc.com/switches.htm You'll find an
overview of making turnouts DCC friendly and their wiring on that page.
Chris Borgmeyer
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Re: {S-Scale List} Frog question
Bob: What you have described is a function of how the switch was thrown. NOT
the switches fault. It is the fault of the switch machine and its adjustments.
My comment is still true.
Paul
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From: Bob Werre b...@phototraxx.com
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Frog question
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 8, 2011, 12:09 PM
Paul, You're generally correct but there is a problem that is called
make before break that pretty much effects only DCC systems because of
the quick acting circuit breakers. I had this happen with one of my
Shinorhara turnouts that was controlled by a slow motion machine. By
using the built in contacts combined with the slow motion, the contacts
were closed (making contact) on both ends for an instant--just enough to
throw the breaker and shut down that power district. It was solved by
ripping out the factory contacts, insulating the points and gaping the
frog; then using the polarity switch feature of the switch motor.
So I'm not sure what the term actually refers to, but in my case it
certainly started out unfriendly! But like anything else in our hobby
there are solutions!
Bob Werre
PhotoTraxx.com
On 6/8/11 1:48 PM, Paul Vaughn wrote:
Chris and all: Please there IS NO SUCH THING A DCC FRIENDLY
SWITCH The poliarty of the frog is the same for DC or DCC. It
needs to change with the way the switch is thrown! Or if using DCC get
a frog juicer and stop worying about it!
Dcc compatable term was generated by some HO switch manufactures as a
ploy to sell their latest version of track and switches.
Paul
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Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Insulated frog question
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Date: Wednesday, June 8, 2011, 4:26 AM
Ed,
Not the worlds most user friendly website but a lot of useful info can
be found at http://www.wiringfordcc.com/switches.htm You'll find an
overview of making turnouts DCC friendly and their wiring on that page.
Chris Borgmeyer
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Re: {S-Scale List} Frog question
Bob: What you describe is not the fault of the switch. It is the fault of
an incorrect check gauge of the wheel sets.
I find most modeler's blame the track switch when something shorts instead of
finding out that the wheel check is not properly set.
For me I build all my own switches built to the proper check gauge and check
each every wheel set to make sure that the check gauge is properly set. After
doing both I do not have a shorting problem you describe.
Paul
--- On Wed, 6/8/11, Robert Frascella frasc...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Robert Frascella frasc...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Frog question
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 8, 2011, 1:14 PM
I agree with Paul to a certain extent that DCC Friendly is an HO marketing
gimmick, but in S-scale it was a different experience for me. When I first
converted to DCC I did so by buying SHS locos already DCC equiped. My
existing turnouts were solid frogs and the electrical gap was at the
points. Everything ran flwalessly. It was not until I started converting
my older locomotives to DCC that I realized the advantage of having an
isolated frog. I have two steamers that were built using SSLS drivers
that were made to a slightly different gauge and the driver wheels
themselves were thicker than the more recent s-scale wheels. In addition,
one of the two locomotives is a rigid frame 2-10-0 with 4 of the 5 drivers
flanged and everytime it took the diverging route of a turnout, it would
short against the switch point. In the old days of DC there was usually
enough momentum to carry the locomotive past the short. But with DCC as Bob
explained, it's a different story. So as much as a pain as it was to
isolate all of my turnout frogs, it solved the problem for me.
Bob Frascella
Wenham, MA
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Bob Werre b...@phototraxx.com wrote:
Paul, You're generally correct but there is a problem that is called
make before break that pretty much effects only DCC systems because of
the quick acting circuit breakers. I had this happen with one of my
Shinorhara turnouts that was controlled by a slow motion machine. By
using the built in contacts combined with the slow motion, the contacts
were closed (making contact) on both ends for an instant--just enough to
throw the breaker and shut down that power district. It was solved by
ripping out the factory contacts, insulating the points and gaping the
frog; then using the polarity switch feature of the switch motor.
So I'm not sure what the term actually refers to, but in my case it
certainly started out unfriendly! But like anything else in our hobby
there are solutions!
Bob Werre
PhotoTraxx.com
On 6/8/11 1:48 PM, Paul Vaughn wrote:
Chris and all: Please there IS NO SUCH THING A DCC FRIENDLY
SWITCH The poliarty of the frog is the same for DC or DCC. It
needs to change with the way the switch is thrown! Or if using DCC get
a frog juicer and stop worying about it!
Dcc compatable term was generated by some HO switch manufactures as a
ploy to sell their latest version of track and switches.
Paul
--- On Wed, 6/8/11, Christopher Borgmeyer cborgme...@me.com
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Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Insulated frog question
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 8, 2011, 4:26 AM
Ed,
Not the worlds most user friendly website but a lot of useful info can
be found at http://www.wiringfordcc.com/switches.htm You'll find an
overview of making turnouts DCC friendly and their wiring on that page.
Chris Borgmeyer
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{S-Scale List} Re: Input
Thanks guys: the input about switches is great. It makes me believe that my 40 year old premise is still correct. There are No, none, comically made switches that are made correctly! I use three sizes of wheels. Code 110, 93 and 88. for my Sn3 equipment. All three sizes use the same check Gage and work just fine. This is why you must use the same Check Gage with different code wheel sets. I can't afford to buy and use comically made switches. It cost me about a $1.00 to build a switch and 20 minutes of my time. Oh yes, I do not use Fastracks jigs, They just slow me down. I have been a proponent of using PC ties since 1966. More Later Paul [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: {S-Scale List} Tunnel liner
Ed: Crumple up alumin foil and use Bradgon's resin to make the liner, just
before the resin completely sets up form the liner over a form for size then
remove the foil. Color the liner to suit
Paul
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Subject: {S-Scale List} Tunnel liner
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Group,
Anyone got a easy method of creating tunnel liners?
Thanks
Ed Sauers
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Re: {S-Scale List} Model tank car experts
Andy: Can't help until I see a photo of what you are after.
Paul
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Subject: {S-Scale List} Model tank car experts
To: S scale group S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, June 5, 2011, 4:10 PM
Howdy!
Well now that I have bought all the 6000g brass tankcars I can find and
modified them.
I have tankcar I want to make.
It is a PROX chemical tankcar. It roamed the lines from Newfoundland to Ontario.
If anyone is good with this stuff I am looking for a good model as a starting
point. Open to suggestions.
Contact me offlist and I can email a few photos.
Thanks
Andrew
Sn42 CN Newfoundland
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Re: {S-Scale List} 2013 Spring S scale meet in Indianpolis?
Do you have a time frame in mind?
Paul
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Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} 2013 Spring S scale meet in Indianpolis?
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 1, 2011, 7:36 PM
How about Mark Malinowski on WBJC radio in Baltimore!
Mike
From: John
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Are you any relation to Gunny Malinowski of Mentor Ohio /
Marine Corps Iwo Jima
John Armstrong, Kirtland Ohio
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From: Charles
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Subject: {S-Scale List} 2013 Spring S scale meet in Indianpolis?
In the Spring of 2013 the Central Indiana Division of the NMRA will be hosting
the Mid-west regional meet. The exact dates have not been finalized as of yet
but the convention will be held in or near Indianapolis. At present I'm on the
facility selection committee.
I was thinking..this would be a great opportunity to promote to S scale to our
brothers and sister in the NMRA. This could be a mini version of the X2011
Convention in Sacramento.
Any thoughts?
SIG 1-64 meet?
Charles Malinowski
Carmel, Indiana
C 317-730-3187
mailto:bmry1905%40yahoo.com
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Re: {S-Scale List} Turn Buckles............
Ed
: I nhave some plastic injected turnbuckles for my CS kits.
Paul
PVC
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Subject: {S-Scale List} Turn Buckles
To: List, S scale S-scale@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 9:31 AM
Gentlemen.In the good old days of Kinsman passenger car kits, there were
some stamped brass turnbuckles available. There were six of these
turnbuckles linked together in a strip. I am not certain if they were part
of the Kinsman kits or if they were separate parts from elsewhere. Is there
a chance anyone would know of these turnbuckles, who made them, are they
still available, where to buy some, etc.? Or, perhaps there are some
stashed away looking for a new good home. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks..Ed L.
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{S-Scale List} Re: S/Sn3 kit building business
All: Bill Banta does not want this portion of his buiness to die. He is trying to find someone that will continue it. As for sales of S scale kits it is not very good. I made a S scale station and had only 20 cut. I have only sold 4 !!! I also purchased a Sn3 line of car kits and have not made my money back yet. However the line continues. This sort of story continues for every manufacture in S or Sn3. Flat out it is a business of love of the scale. Bill B., I hope you find someone to continue your line in S. Paul Vaughn Precision Vintage Classics [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: {S-Scale List} Resin Kit Repair
Ed: use tape on the inside of the model as a damn for the hole, then add more
resin to fill the hole. Sand flush after hardening. Resin sticks to its self.
This works for any size hole.
Paul
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Subject: {S-Scale List} Resin Kit Repair
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Group,
What is the best filler material to plug voids or other unwanted/misplaced
holes, small to medium in size, in Resin Kits.
Thanks
Ed Sauers
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{S-Scale List} Re: Turnout advice
If you are using 85' passenger cars then you would need 43 min radius curves
including switches. You can make your own switches very easly with PC Ties,
carbon paper, a sheet of 20 lb bond paper and a section of flex track. NMRA RP
11 says a # 6 switch should work.?. I recommend going with a 43 radius
switch. They will take more real
estate but they will work better while backing the long cars.
Good Railroading
Paul
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From: Bob Werre b...@phototraxx.com
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Turnout advice for newcomer's
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 12:44 PM
Billy is correct, for our stub end station often the trains wanted to
fold-up when doing a reverse action. Part of the problem was due to a S
curve coupled with those turnouts. I think we still have them on the
long passing siding that you built. They seem to be doing okay.
I still have 3 or 4 on my layout but that many have been torn out and
replaced. The funny thing about the #6 is all the room they take. A
properly made #6 is actually shorter than the plastic strip the
Shinohara are mounted to. For this reason I would never use them in a
tight yard situation.
Bob Werre
BobWphoto.com
On 4/18/11 1:56 PM, Billy Click wrote:
When building the modules for the Houston S Scalers years ago, I
handbuilt a 3 way switch for the start of the passenger throat but
with limited time left I used Shinohara #6's for the rest of the
passenger throat. We had considerable problems backing passenger
trains into the stub terminal. Finally, years after I left the Houston
area I believe that the group has replaced all of them normal #6's.
Bob Werre could verify this.
Backing long cars through them is not a particularly good idea.
Billy Click
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{S-Scale List} Re: flat panel kits
There is something to say for flat panel kits. For one thing you can mold different ends, sides and roofs. Using each part with several different ends, say, the manufacture can come up with several different cars for sale just by combining various parts differently. This way the sales life of a given mold would be extended past one run. Just a thought Paul PVC [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: {S-Scale List} flux
Tom: To clean flux requires;
rosin = alcohol
Acid = baking soda + water them rinse with water.
Both types of cleaning requires a stiff brush to help loosen any dried flux
residue.
I hope this helps.
Paul
From: Thomas Stoltz tsto...@roadrunner.com
Subject: {S-Scale List} flux
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, April 5, 2011, 2:23 PM
Hi Everybody,
I'm wondering how most of you clean off flux residue after soldering.
Especially, the silver soldering flux. I can't imagine most would follow
the manufacturer's instruction to the letter; there are a lot of hoops to
jump through.
So, what do you do?
Just curious,
Tom Stoltz
Tom's Turnouts Trackwork
Maine S Gaugers
NASG
http://www.tomsturnouts.com/ www.tomsturnouts.com
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Re: {S-Scale List} NWSL Stanton Drive
Gary: It is quite simple. Offer to pay for the tooling and you should get the
parts.
Paul
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Subject: {S-Scale List} NWSL Stanton Drive
To: s_scale_tract...@yahoogroups.com, S-Scale Group S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, March 31, 2011, 11:47 AM
This is the response I received from Dave Rygmyr of NorthWest Short Line (NWSL)
regarding their Stanton Drive.
Gary Chudzinski
Subject: Stanton Drive for S gauge
Date: Thu, March 31, 2011
Hi Gary,
If we get enough interest, we plan to do it. We've made some out of the HO
units already but the longest wheelbase we can make is 7'6, and of course the
HO housing needs some shimming to get the coupler height right. We'll see what
kind of interest we get. Thanks!
Dave Rygmyr
NorthWest Short Line (www.nwsl.com)
Oso Publishing Evergreen Hill Designs (www.osorail.com)
Original Message
Subject: Stanton Drive for S gauge
From: Gary Chudzinski chu...@earthlink.net
Date: Thu, March 31, 2011 8:04 am
To: davi...@osorail.com
Dave,
I am interested in the Stanton Drive. Are you planning on making them
for standard S gauge?
Gary Chudzinski
chu...@earthlink.net
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Re: {S-Scale List} Photo Backdrop Printing
You can get it printed on wall paper type of paper that looks great. Then apply
with wall paper paste. Get extra hands to do it.
Paul
--- On Mon, 3/14/11, sscalemn ssc...@comcast.net wrote:
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Subject: {S-Scale List} Photo Backdrop Printing
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 2:27 PM
Guys,
One wall of my layout will be devoted to the passenger terminal throat and yard
leading into the St Paul Union Depot (SPUD). Because the real estate needs to
be dominated by track, there will be no scenery or structures (except for part
of the train shed and covered ramps). So about the only thing which will work
to disquise the wall will be a photo backdrop. Pursuant to this, I traveled
over to Saint Paul last week with the trusty Nikon DSLR in hand and took a
series of photos of what you would see today looking across the SPUD wye and
throat(unfortunately these will not look exactly like Christmas time 1969 but
compromises need to be taken, right?). The scene over The Mighty Mississippi
makes a decent backdrop as the river is running parallel to the SPUD trackage.
I panoramically stitched the photos together in Photoshop and resized
resulting in a decent looking backdrop which will print 18 feet long by 2 feet
high to fit the space. Then
the hammer fell! The best quote I have been able to get for printing this
thing is $120 on cheap paper. To print it on photograde paper, it will cost
well over $200! Anybody have any sources for less expensive printing? Brother
Bob? Making sure of S Scale content, I would rather put the $200 towards
Brother Ron's S Scale SD45! Thanks for any help.
Walt Jopke
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{S-Scale List} Re: Has anyone try a Frog Juicer from Tam Valley
They work just fine.
Paul
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Subject: {S-Scale List} Question, Has anyone try a Frog Juicer from Tam Valley
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 13, 2011, 12:18 PM
Hi Bill Folks
I plan on using some of Tam Valleys Frog
Juciers for dcc on
my new layout I will be building { when my daughter moves out AGAIN } They
aren't real expensive back look like they can save lots of time and problems
Check them out at http://tamvalleydepot.com/products/dccpowerfrogjuicers.html
Also if you click on support you can watch a video with them in action.
John
Hey John,
Welcome back. I just took you off of moderation so dive right in..
Thank You,
Bill Lane
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Re: {S-Scale List} Glue
Mike: Applly the MEK/Plastruct glue with a 0 of 00 brush and you should
not distroy the model.
Paul
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Subject: {S-Scale List} Glue
To: S Scale S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, February 12, 2011, 5:33 PM
I have a old AM box car kit.
Can any one suggest a proper glue to use.
I have some Plastruct bondene glue, but I am told this acts like a Welding, as
it melts the plastic together.
I don’t want to mess this car up as I guess I would use a dabber to be careful.
thanks for any suggestions.
Mike
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{S-Scale List} Comparing wheel treads, some history
All: I was the Sn3 Standards Chairman from 1979-1982. I developed the S
standard for use with the code 110 wheel. Which became RP3 and RP4 in 1980. See
the 1980 NMRA Special Bulletin.
I was told by the NASG president at the time that I didn't know what I was
talking about. The NMRA wheel size for S at that time was the code 135 which
had the same size flange as the code 110 wheel. The code 135 wheel could still
be used with my RP 3/4 if the S track gage was widened to 4' 8.5. As far as I
know no one want to accept the wider track gage as it would iterate the Flyer
people. That is the reason I was given anyway.
The NASG had to change my RP 3/4 a little to claim they came up the their
standards. They changed the flange way from 0.053 to 0.050 and recalculated
the check gauges to claim authorship. S standard gagers at the time didn't even
like the code 135 wheel set.
Now we have the Flyer wheel set, the code 110 wheel set and the almost scale
wheel proto 64. As I call it the code 88 wheel set. The code 110 88 won't
work on the flyer track. The flyer wheels the code110 wheelset won't work on
the code 88 track. And the code 88(proto 64) won't work on the code 110 track.
Why? Because, they all use different check gages.
Note the code 88 wheel set will work with the code 110 wheel sets IF they use
the same check gage.
I use three wheel sizes, code 110, code 93 and code 88 for Sn3. They all use
the same check gage and work equally well. When the car is on the track it is
very hard to tell which car has what wheel size.
I hope this has given some insight on what has transpired over the years.
Paul Vaughn
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Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Comparing wheel treads.
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 23, 2011, 8:09 AM
I don't have the NMRA recommended practices documents in front of me, but my
recollection is that RP-25 is not scale dependent at all. in other words, a
code 110 wheel with contour conforming to RP-25 would have the same profile
whether used in S or HO. Would be glad to be corrected by evidence.
The word contour is used to describe the various parameters that define the
shapes of the tread and flange, and the curve (fillet) that connects them,
along with the angle of the tread and the relative dimensions of the component
parts of the profile of the wheel.
Oh, and by the way, all model railroaders owe a huge debt of gratitude to those
pioneers who devised the NMRA track and wheel standards and recommended
practices--we are reminded of it every time a piece of rolling stock
successfully traverses a section of track!
Fred T
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From: Darrell darrell.ev.sm...@gmail.com
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Jan 22, 2011 1:36 pm
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Comparing wheel treads.
RP25 contour is not scale specific. But the flange dimensions, and to some
degree the wheel width, are. Therefore an HO RP25 wheel is going to have a
smaller flange contour than an S RP25 wheel. You have to pull up the different
standards tables for the wheels you're comparing and check the different
standards to see if they will be compatible. The NASG and the NMRA standards
are all available online if you go to their sites. HO RP25 wheels are going to
differ from BOTH S scale standards, but will be much closer to the Proto64
standards.
Darrell
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Tom Hawley t.hawley@... wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Darrell
. . . . . . . . HO RP25 wheels have a smaller contour than S RP25 wheels. .
. . . . . . . . . . Hope this hasn't confused you . . .
It's probably confused a lot of us, though it probably won't make much
difference in our day-to-day modelling. What exactly do you mean by
contour? And which, according to your theory conforms with, and which
deviates from the code 110 dimensions in the NMRA's RP 25? The various
codes in RP25 are not scale-specific, except that you have to find a code
that works with the S3 and S4 dimensions you're using.
Tom Hawley -- Lansing Mich
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Re: {S-Scale List} Comparing wheel treads.
Jim: RP 25 is a Recommended Practice for wheel contour. In PR 25 there are several sizes of contours which Code 110 is listed. RP 25 has nothing to do with wheel diameter only with the tread contour. A code 88 wheel is almost perfect size for S scale contour. NWSL sells a 33 code 110 for S scale. I have a 26 dia code 88 wheel set for Sn3. So to answer your question: a code 110 will have the PR 25 contour. Its the same wheel. Paul --- On Fri, 1/21/11, Jim and Cheryl Martin farnhamho...@ymail.com wrote: Guys: This is a simple case of me being too lazy to look it up myself, but in 25 words or less, what's the difference visually and operationally between code 110 wheels and RP25 wheels? Is one more prototypically-proportioned for S-scale? Any operational problems on running RP25 wheels that have been re-gauged to S? Thanks Jim [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
{S-Scale List} Comments
Ed: These guys don't want to have make something. They just want to buy and put
on the layout and see it work. From what I have read they won't strip a car,
repaint it then decal it to get what they want. They would rather complain that
no manufacture doesn't make what they want one of.
I use ground throws at the edge of the layout and make my own contacts. Nobody
has to reach across the layout to throw a switch. I am having harp switch
stands made that will operate for pointed or stub switches so the operators can
see the route selected. I use DCC with frog juicers.
Stub switches are better for a layout because no shorting can occur and are
easier to make. Also no adjustments are required.
More later
Paul
From: Ed loize...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: switch machines
Sir Bill.
My observation is that you have two choices of switch motors: Tortoise and
SwitchMaster.
Buy good stuff and install it properly and it will work just fine.
Then go buy some brass tubes and piano wire and make your own linkage exactly
the same as what comes with SwitchMaster. Save lotsa bucks going down this
route, but requires more of your time.
And your next decison is..??
Have fun...Ed L.
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Re: {S-Scale List} Railmaster GE 90 - Need Hood Emblem Decal
Do you have the art work?
I know where to get them made.
Paul
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Subject: {S-Scale List} Railmaster GE 90 - Need Hood Emblem Decal
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 3, 2011, 8:23 AM
Greetings Happy New Year!
I am painting a Railmaster GE90 kit. I need the decal for the hood emblem
(http://railmasterho bbies.com/ images%20Sn3/ GE%2090.jpg) and was wondering
if anyone has any suggestions or knows where I can find this decal. I have
contacted Railmaster Hobbies, and they do not carry this particular decal.
I have also posted this message on the Sn3 list but have only received one
message from a member who is also looking for the same decal.
Thanks in advance for your help,
John Gibson
Rocklin, CA
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Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Northeastern, Kinsman, Rex trucks etc.
Tichy has some for HO that can be used in S.
Pauk
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Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Northeastern, Kinsman, Rex trucks etc.
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, December 19, 2010, 12:43 PM
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Yes, it can. I have drilled out Kinsman/N'Eastern trucks not only for Ace
metal bearings, but also Delrin tubing.
Bob Nicholson _
--Bob,
I remember a modeler from Canada around the time of the Ottawa convention
showed several cars with that Delrin tubing in the sideframes, but I was never
able to find it in a suitable diameter. Where did you get yours?
Bud Rindfleisch
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Re: {S-Scale List} Searchin'...
Gerry: I stick a needel into the end of a 1/4 dowel then cut off 1/2 of the
eye of a needel with a grinder.
Wow
Paul
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Subject: {S-Scale List} Searchin'...
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 25, 2010, 7:51 AM
How can things disappear during a 1300mi. move is truly remarkable.
Yesterday, I opened and emptied my final box, all paint. Today, I applied my
first dab of both CA and white glue. Most models came through unscathed, and
those that were damaged are easily repaired with some adhesives. Such was the
case today as I put the current work-in-progress on the same workbench from
which it was packed and sent off from Flagstaff to St. Louis in June. In the
process I noticed that three items, a leather worker's awl, some machinist's
squares and my CA applicators were all among the missing. Who knows? The awl I
can replace with some scalpels and either replace the squares locally or from
Micro-Mark. The CA applicators, however, are a different thing. These are 1/4
dowels with sewing needles stuck in their ends and the eyes cut approximately
in half so I can transfer CA from a puddle on a ceramic tile to the glue point.
I bought them at an Sn3 Symposium
quite a few years ago from someone whom I cannot recall. So, here, finally, is
the question: Does anyone know of a source for these tools?
Gerry Evans--Now happily residing in St. Louis and still a property owner in
Flagstaff
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Re: {S-Scale List} Sn3 1/2
Harold: Mantua makes a Sumpter Valley 2-6-6-2T logger in HO thats converts
easily to Sn3 or Sn3.5. It is oversize for HO and is about 85% of S. Close
enough that you can't tell the difference.
I was able to get the 48 drivers from North Yard in Sn3 for replacing the
drivers on the Tyco 4-6-0. PVC has the wheels for the tender.
I have been able to get detail parts from Tomalco Parts.
Railmaster makes several Engine kits for Sn3/Sn3.5.
Build models
Paul
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From: Harold Minwkitz hmi...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Sn3 1/2
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 22, 2010, 3:30 AM
I was endeavoring to build Sn3 and even started a website:
http://www.sn3modeler.com/
But since their are no suitable detail parts, I have abandoned that project. S
scale seems to be in it's death throes. Have moved onto other more viable
areas. Sn3 has become old men collecting ready to run PBL and modeling the same
scenes in Colorado.
The IHM engines are OO scale. The Tyco ten-wheeler is an S scale version of an
SP ten-wheeler.
http://www.sn3modeler.com/image/sp_ten_wheeler.JPG
No, The Supply Car doesn't have the Tomalco parts available but that is another
story. It is a shame S scale is fading away.
Thank you if you visit
Harold
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Aside from Tomalco, I recall articles in the old Herald on S narrow gauge
using the old Mantua/Tyco 4-6-0 model. This locomotive was patterned after
Sierra RR #3 (and first issued lettered CNFW for the line in the old
Petticoat Junction TV series). The model is about 20% oversize for HO, so it
works as a starting point for an S narrow gauge model. The AHM/IHC 4-4-0 VT
engines Geno/Reno/Inyo are also oversize for HO. I think Harold Minkwitz had
a page on his site about using these engines in S. He posts occasionally on
this list some maybe he can comment.
Pieter E. Roos
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{S-Scale List} Phone as wireless throttle
All: I have thought about using a Unden phone system, cost about $60, if I could find someone to programe it for use with NCE. Any thoughts??? Paul [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
{S-Scale List} Re: New Yahoo Groups format
My comment is If it isn't broke don't fix it. I guss Yahoo has taken a lesson from Detroit. It's a new year so we must have someing new. Paul [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
{S-Scale List} Re: Structures
Ed all: I do find that most ng ers are of a single track mindset. Just a quick observation that there is no such thing a NG structures, automobiles or people in any scale. Structures that were near a RR of any gauge are still full size. People are full size etc. Remember that 99% of NG-ers don't want to admitt that in 1917 EBT had steel cars and that the ORL had an intelocking signal system in the 1930s. Paul ...those specializing in Sn3 often don't seem to have much interest in a standard gage interchange. Jace Kahn --- On Wed, 9/8/10, Ed loize...@sbcglobal.net wrote: My observation; I have many so-called narrow gauge structures, vehicles, figures, etc. on my standard gauge layout and they sure do add variety. Ed L. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: {S-Scale List} Can anyone identify this body shell?
It looks like it started life as two FA shells.
Paul
--- On Sat, 8/28/10, Jeff Sankus uvr...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Jeff Sankus uvr...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Can anyone identify this body shell?
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, August 28, 2010, 5:29 PM
Gary;
The image isn't coming up.
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 8:27 PM, gary.ippolito gary.ippol...@yahoo.comwrote:
http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/252190/sn/1871510131/name/ELECTRIC.jpg
I picked up this urethane shell almost 20 years ago, did a little work on
it, painted it, decaled it and modified it to fit an American Models PA-1
drive. (It was designed to fit a Flyer PA chassis.)
When I bought it, someone said that it was created for someone's freelance
railroad. That is the only detail I know. Now that I rediscovered it in my
basement, I'm curious if anyone know anything more about it.
Thanks,
Gary
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