Re: Domain name - voting ends Fri night!
Here's my vote then. Let's have all of them. We can redirect to the actual content anyway, and it's basically fiddling while Rome burns. Cheers Howard
Re: ORSAM show report
BORING! Everyone's sound on this list, and I can get bickering off any old net chatroom. That'll do now. Proud to say, I have a glorious MILES GORDON TECHNOLOGY PLC Sam. And up til I swapped the ROM in '98 ish, it was a 1989 vintage. Tobermory=Howard At 09:09 18/11/2004, you wrote: Theatrical drama seems to be the right word for this all. Be sure: I never did anything wrong and I know Mr. Bennett for years as a honest and friendly person. I suppose the idiot goes to Mr. Winkless, not to me This here reminds me at Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hide. I wonder what will come next? Wolfgang Frans van Egmond wrote: Leonard Bennett wrote: Somehow I was expecting some idiot would come up with this... Why then did you post your statement here the way you did? You make it sound like it wasn't your free choice to put Wolfgang up and pay for his expenses... Ofcourse I may have missed something in previous posts so feel free to elaborate... Frans [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For the hard of reading among us... erm... huh? Sorry, I'm watching this whole theatrical drama unfold, and I just don't get it. Can I get some crib-notes? - Original Message - From: Geoff Winkless To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 11:33 AM Subject: RE: ORSAM show report What do you want, a medal? G From: Leonard Bennett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 November 2004 11:08 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: ORSAM show report I would just like to point out here that Wolfgang was staying with me as my house guest here at Welwyn Garden City from Thursday 4th to Tuesday 9th. All his expenses were paid by me, even the taxi fares from and to Stansted, and the train/bus fares to Norwich. Doesn't seem so astounding now, does it David S-S! Len Bennett __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __
OT: Contact for Balor Knight
Hello everyone, quick question Has anyone got an email address/contact detail for Balor Knight? I've formed a band and named it after him (it's a great name!), and need to apologise/congratulate him. Thanks! Tobermory=Howard - Now sadly hibernating from SAM but it's still only 10 feet away from me
Re: Sam Lives - Maybe
I think so! I'm just working on my PC at the moment. Oh for the simplicity of memory you can trust :) Howard At 08:21 27/08/2004, you wrote: Just a test as I haven't had anything from the list since the 16th July.. Sams in hibernation, everyones on the beach Ian
Re: BMP2SCR EXP 2.11
Hello LCD, This looks interesting - are you going to put your VAnimator up for download? Those compiled Blitz$ animations were really cool! -Tob At 08:42 12-04-04, you wrote: Hi guys, Another milestone release of BMP2SCR EXP, the version 2.11a is now available for download from my webpage (http://lcd-one.da.ru). I added many new SAM conversion modes, like colour error diffusion and Mode4 interlace, but there are even more improvements, check it out and tell me your opinion. Greetings and happy eastern LCD
Re: BMP2SCR EXP 2.11
Bummer! I think you underestimate how well a utility like that would go down though, a Vib Ribbon ripoff on the SAM looks possible (at a reduced framerate) and would be really fun to develop! -howard At 12:08 12-04-04, you wrote: Hi Howard, This question was asked many times, but sorry, no, the development disc was in the SAM drive as I switched my him off... A big mistake! This means, it is gone, maybe I still can find a earlier copy, if so, I will release it on my home page. I still have over 200 discs full of my stuff to check. And I do not remember that I ever started to develop that much in the 90's. But the VAnimator was very simple. You was able to draw points and lines with mouse, and the previous anim frame was always displayed in blue under the current frame, a simple Light-table kind of thing, and it took forever to make these animations, but it was a great fun. I made also calculated Blitz$ animations for some demos and games, check Heavier than Metal on my home page, in games section. Anyway, I think Bmp2scr EXP is much more useful for games development than VAnimator ever was :-). LCD Howard Price wrote: Hello LCD, This looks interesting - are you going to put your VAnimator up for download? Those compiled Blitz$ animations were really cool! -Tob At 08:42 12-04-04, you wrote: Hi guys, Another milestone release of BMP2SCR EXP, the version 2.11a is now available for download from my webpage (http://lcd-one.da.ru). I added many new SAM conversion modes, like colour error diffusion and Mode4 interlace, but there are even more improvements, check it out and tell me your opinion. Greetings and happy eastern LCD
Re: BMP2SCR EXP 2.11
Looking forward to it! At 13:23 12-04-04, you wrote: Excellent! LCD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I will check the discs and hope to find a working version again... :-))) LCD Howard Price wrote: Bummer! I think you underestimate how well a utility like that would go down though, a Vib Ribbon ripoff on the SAM looks possible (at a reduced framerate) and would be really fun to develop! -howard At 12:08 12-04-04, you wrote: Hi Howard, This question was asked many times, but sorry, no, the development disc was in the SAM drive as I switched my him off... A big mistake! This means, it is gone, maybe I still can find a earlier copy, if so, I will release it on my home page. I still have over 200 discs full of my stuff to check. And I do not remember that I ever started to develop that much in the 90's. But the VAnimator was very simple. You was able to draw points and lines with mouse, and the previous anim frame was always displayed in blue under the current frame, a simple Light-table kind of thing, and it took forever to make these animations, but it was a great fun. I made also calculated Blitz$ animations for some demos and games, check Heavier than Metal on my home page, in games section. Anyway, I think Bmp2scr EXP is much more useful for games development than VAnimator ever was :-). LCD Howard Price wrote: Hello LCD, This looks interesting - are you going to put your VAnimator up for download? Those compiled Blitz$ animations were really cool! -Tob At 08:42 12-04-04, you wrote: Hi guys, Another milestone release of BMP2SCR EXP, the version 2.11a is now available for download from my webpage (http://lcd-one.da.ru). I added many new SAM conversion modes, like colour error diffusion and Mode4 interlace, but there are even more improvements, check it out and tell me your opinion. Greetings and happy eastern LCD
RE: Unsubbs...
Hey hey! I'm still here but under different email addresses. [EMAIL PROTECTED] won't let me on any more. -howard At 16:44 09-04-04, you wrote: good to see you! :) Howard was on not so long ago as well Stewart Skardon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I'm still here :o( Please don't un-sub me! Regards, Stewart
Re: :-)
Really impressed with Waitrose email. This is a free service I'm on, and it caught Bagle straight off. -howard At 07:59 10-04-04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is an auto-generated e-mail; please do not reply. Dear Customer An e-mail addressed to you was intercepted by our mail systems because it contained a known virus. We have deleted the e-mail and the virus so that it poses no threat to your computer. The name of the virus was Worm/Bagle.H worm The address it appears to have been sent from is[EMAIL PROTECTED] . etc
Re: Atom Poll
I've got almost exactly the same setup as Andy here. I have occasional problems with the connections so my SAM comes apart quite a lot at the moment, and something must be badly earthed, because 'hard disk whine' comes through the monitor quite badly. Maybe it's cos (I think) I've got the first Atom interface made. can anyone else make this claim? -Howard aka Tobermory, still quietly listening though not posting much. At 19:27 02-04-04, you wrote: I might as well post on list as well: -Do have a Atom ? Yes - a real one and one on Sim Coupe ;-) -What do you hook up to it ? A 42Mb Seagate Connor 2.5inch Laptop drive, fitted internally in drive bay 2. I've an old 220Mb one to fit instead, but don't think I'll bother now - not managed to fill the 42 yet! Cheers, Andy Chandler --- Edwin Blink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How many of you : -Do have a Atom ? -Don't have a atom ? If you have a atom -What do you hook up to it ? Please let me know off-list. Thanks Edwin
Re: Norwich Spectrum and SAM Show - OT
At 18:50 12-11-03, you wrote: Arse candles Go on! Indulge a man! Whassat mean? http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=arse+candle Term nicked from Chris Morris - from Brass Eye I think. Dan. I knew the Internet was useful for something!
Re: Norwich Spectrum and SAM Show - OT
Arse candles Go on! Indulge a man! Whassat mean? -howard
Aloha
Hey have I got the right place? It's Howard Price aka Tobermory Womble. Looks like I'll never get into my old email account... So what's the goss these days? -tob
Re: Game engine development...
At 03:45 31/08/02, Simon Cooke wrote: I know this is a vague request, but currently we're looking at doing any one of three different things - a 1st person puzzlesolver/shooter, a real-time strategy game, or an updated port of Tempest ;-) So... Chris? Colin McD? Anybody? Thanks, Si I'm an anybody! I've been tinkering with game development and putting the results up on the web for a fair few months now. Today the cooking circle reaches its 30th update - www.cookingcircle.co.uk. The Tempest thing looks the most interesting, but when you say realtime strategy, do you mean online gaming?? -howard
Re: Copyright etc
At 15:42 15/08/02, you wrote: I *really* hate to bring this up again, but I need to ask your opinions...I'll paste the below and I'd be very interested in your opinions either on or off list, especially if you've ever developed or published SAM software in the past. It's in relation to the File Library I'm putting together for the SC site. There's two camps in the copyright arguement - those who don't give a monkeys about copyright on SAM software, see it as a dead machine and think all its software should be free. Then there's the people who stick to the copyrights religiously (at least in public!) and see no way round it. I'm going to try and adopt a sensible compromise with copyrighted software. I will make every reasonable effort to get in touch with the author and/or publisher to seek permission to make the software available for download. If I fail to make contact, I will post on the mailing list, Usenet and this website, asking people to help me out. If after a further month, I still have not made contact with those involved, I will assume it's okay to make the software available. People's opinions will be taken into account, so that if it's reckoned that the author would not the software distributed, that's the way it will stay as far as this site is concerned. It's basically an attempt to keep SAM software available where possible, without annoying people. Thanks for any opinions... I've been a bit quiet lately but I thought I'd just chirp in - I support your plan Colin, copyrighted material retains copyright, but if no-one can be bothered to enforce it, even if you seek them out for two months, ignore it. Tobermory - still updating weekly at www.cookingcircle.co.uk
Re: Copyright etc
At 17:03 15/08/02, you wrote: I've been a bit quiet lately but I thought I'd just chirp in - I support your plan Colin, copyrighted material retains copyright, but if no-one can be bothered to enforce it, even if you seek them out for two months, ignore it. Erm... the plan about the Copyright software was Gavin Smith's post ... not mine ! Colin Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam Website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/ Gavin and the SC newsletter hasn't been eaten by giant anteaters??!!! Don't believe you!
Re: A Sam-related post :-)
At 10:17 07/01/02, Dan wrote: I was playing Sam Manic Miner last night wearing only my pants - a truly liberating experience :-) Just like the old days eh? I was doing the same thing *the day before yesterday* thinking how little things have changed. Then my Sam promptly faked a broken video chip. Arg! ...But I'd just knocked the Vertical alignment knob on the monitor. Phew! Okay, so it's not the most interesting news in the world, but this list is awfully quiet now, isn't it! -howard
Re: Hello
I'm still kind of around so everyone have a good Christmas and stay friendly! -howard At 12:53 27/12/01, you wrote: Hello Everyone, I daren't send seasons greetings, for fear of getting my head bitten off. But it's the thought that counts! ;o)
Mystery advert - Classic Gaming Scene
I've just seen an ad in the back of this issue's Edge (iss105): CLASSIC GAMING SCENE --- Commodore, Sinclair, Neo Geo, PC Engine, NEC, Sam Coupe www.classicgamingscene.com 0114 239 1027 / 0181 0780997 Haven't tried the phone number yet, but 0114 is Sheffield's code, and the website isn't there yet. Any of you guys responsible?? Alchemist Research maybe? -howard
RE: Broken link
Yeah, that's the old site. The new one is simply www.samcommunity.org, but refuses me. Ah well. -tob At 11:12 29/10/01, you wrote: Gavin Smith and SAM Community 2000. are now at http://www.samcommunity.co.uk/http://www.samcommunity.co.uk/ Other than that the site says it doesn't exist anymore. I'll try google to see if I can track the org site down. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Price Sent: 29 October 2001 9:39 AM To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Broken link Hi Anyone else finding it difficult to get to www.samcommunity.org lately?? I wanted to visit the site and find out what the goddam holdup is this time. Whoops this mail makes it sound like I'm pissed off... -Tob
Broken link
Hi Anyone else finding it difficult to get to www.samcommunity.org lately?? I wanted to visit the site and find out what the goddam holdup is this time. Whoops this mail makes it sound like I'm pissed off... -Tob
Re: Quiet round here
At 16:39 04/09/01, you wrote: On Tuesday, September 4, 2001, at 11:19 am, Howard Price wrote: Doesn't seem to be anyone about at the moment. Am I having difficulties being sent stuff to? -howard, depressed that long-promised SAM Community still ain't arrived. The erm. Er. Well you see...er. Erk! I'm just following the finest traditions of SAM zine publishing ;) You fool. Remind me never to put you in trust of my kids. (but you don't have any kids howard!) Shut up, you.
Quiet round here
Doesn't seem to be anyone about at the moment. Am I having difficulties being sent stuff to? -howard, depressed that long-promised SAM Community still ain't arrived.
RE: Sam CPU timing quick quezzie
At 22:26 14/08/01, Si Owen wrote: You'll certainly see the extra delays when writing to ports 248 and above, or when the ASIC is drawing the main screen area. I'm confident that the current SimCoupé is already accurate enough for you to be able to develop your Mode 4 IM2 routines on it and have it run the same on a real SAM. Thanks for this info. Surprisingly, I'm still using my *real SAM* to program on right now I generally took 78000 TStates per frame to be the norm for Mode 4 - this roughly equates to Aley's quote of 30-32% memory contention speed loss. -howard
RE: Sam CPU timing quick quezzie
At 11:59 10/08/01, you wrote: Real SAM: MODE 1: ROM=5.986, RAM=4.428 MODE 2: ROM=5.988, RAM=4.883 MODE 3 and 4 (video on): ROM=5.988, RAM=4.883 MODE 3 and 4 (video off): ROM=5.988, RAM=5.561 Si Do you know how many T-states you get a frame, then? Pref. with memory contention in Mode 4 Just writing a timing program in IM2 -h
Re: Sam Community
At 14:49 05/08/01, Gavin Smith wrote: No, not pissed off, sure I asked a few people on IRC that night. The mag hasn't died, I promise. It's still on paper, albeit in a slightly different format. All will become clear on Monday the 13th, and you won't be disappointed Howard. Sorry for not being in touch I hope so!! :) Think you might be sailing close to the wind with such a long gap though. Am I to expect SAMCOM to go yearly?? -Tob howard price (Tobermory Womble) www.cookingcircle.co.uk (Update #10a: 9/8/01)
Re: Sam Coupe - good or bad design [Was: Re: Sam CPU timing]
First Aley wrote: Look Simon you have a problem. You can't stand anybody saying truth... Then Simon wrote: Whatever... *sigh*... No, Mr. Smarty Superior Pants, ...Well DUH Can we save the insults for after the discussion? I'm interested in your views without the playground stuff. Cheers guys -howard
Re: Sam Community
At 21:41 03/08/01, you wrote: It's a magazine... of the real, paper sort - ie rather like what I did for 8 years on SAM... and am looking for back issues of (My magazine, ZAT, that is - not SC!) I'm guessing that 'was' would be a better word to use. Right??? The next issue should've come out in Februrary or something. Not sure what's happened to Gavin in the last 6 months - did he actually get the File Library up on the SAM COM website? All I get is a page last updated 24 June 2000 from www.samcommunity.co.uk, and www.samcommunity.org is now broken. Poo!! If Gavin's still there somewhere I hope he won't get too pissed off if I said he was considering going to diskmag format, because the new format he promised was turning out to be a hassle. I've given up expecting anything now, frankly. -tob howard price (Tobermory Womble) www.cookingcircle.co.uk
Re: duty call
- Original Message - From: Martijn Groen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 10:59 AM Subject: duty call Hi there, It's pretty quite on the list. Perhaps following message wakes up some people Yes! For what it's worth (ie not a lot) I've just started a website too - www.cookingcircle.co.uk. Take a look but prepare to be bitterly disappointed!! Note to Aley: don't even bother visiting, I know you'll get angry. --Hope that comment doesn't go down the wrong way. In any case, there's a fair bit of unfinished crap I've got hanging around, so why not put it up for everyone to see?? -tobermory=howard
Re: Panic!
Yes you are. Now leave all 50 of us alone :-) - Original Message - From: Mac Buster [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sam Coupe Users ML sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 8:17 PM Subject: Panic! Am I unsubscribed from the SAM Users mailing list ?!??
Re: Panic!
Uncalled for I think ??? Hah! Sorry there - it's just a bit boring on the list at the moment. I didn't mean it! -Tobermory
Re: Did you know this? [continued]
- Original Message - From: Aley Keprt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sam Users sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 6:10 PM Subject: Did you know this? [continued] And, of course, to make it a bit harder, GameBlaster has a different clock (28kHz) compared to approx. 31kHz on Sam, so some emulation will be needed. 'Approx'? Is this why the hz settings for standard diatonic scale are so shonky (=badly simulated)? The tone numbers in the Technical Manual are fairly logical, but the hz output can be out by as much as .25hz.. 'Who cares?!' shouts SAMlist people. (Mind if I go off topic for a bit?) Well, amazingly enough, anyone who uses diatonic harmony (ie standard western): Anyone who plays music on mathmatically accurate frequencies over 5 octaves or more, are in for a really 'sharp' musical surprise. It goes well out of tune! This tuning is called 'natural tuning' and is used in modern music with prepared pianos (sticks and stones placed on the strings!) and other _interesting_ sounding John Cage-y crap. Most people use the 'well-tuned clavier' (normal piano), which is technically inaccurate but sounds 'right'. In most 8-bit soundchips there simply aren't enough sound registers for this to be very important, as bad tuning only becomes noticeable with lots of notes (this is why dance music is so harmonically basic). But the SAM's got 6 registers, so maybe it's worth thinking about. I'm guessing this is the reason why the Commodore 64 sounded good enough to put in 80s pop songs, (the ADSR is a red herring), unless anyone knows better? The other reason it sounded so good could have been the waves it had - sawtooth, square wave etc. -howard
Re: OT, but funny, Mathematical proof WOMEN are EVIL
You guys need to get out more! Hey there everybody, it's my birthday today - 25 years old and I can't even open me emails. Question - is it a salient breach of netetiquette to post a zipped attachment to this list? And if not, what's the biggest size you can accept (ooer)...? -howard - Original Message - From: Matthew J Craven [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 5:02 PM Subject: Re: OT, but funny, Mathematical proof WOMEN are EVIL I'm sorry Dean, I can't resist! [... yada yada...] --Matt.
Re: Virtual party
From: Mac Buster [EMAIL PROTECTED] Heh! Check our 4k intro called Goa. I wonder what you will tell then, if you will be able to say something after that at all of course ;) Also check our demo called ReFresh. Very nice! I especially like your recurring textures bit and flying over the hills. You just don't get this sort of thing on the SAM any more - time that changed again don't you think??! Where do you draw the line. Chipmusic, samples with no external hardware, MODs (played with whatever hardware).. It is not very clear for me what are you talking about, but there are some digital music trackers on Speccy, and there were an attempts to have digital music compos on parties, but they were not very interesting for visitors. Imagine yourself listening 3 hours to low frequency 4-bit digital music (~8kHz) with a low quality samples. What I mean is - SAM's got a fair few sound cards/hardware samplers for it: EdDAC, Blue Alpha, Quazar. Stefan Drissen's MOD player can translate PC MODs to SAM instantly, too. I'd be really worried if my poxy Protracker II chipmusic was up against these big boys!! (No offense meant to BZYK) Don't get me wrong - did you intend a multiplatform Speccy/SAM/other crossover party? I read it as SAM only. -howard
Re: Virtual party
Mac Buster wrote: Howard Price wrote: [...] First Association - 1.5Mb on the Speccy? Yep :) But the demo itself isn't as good as its size :| Agreed! I was amazed by Smile 4K and 5th element (texture mapping 3D on a Speccy?! Sh*t the bed), but generally I thought the music's gone all Eastern Europe Rave. Which brings me back to my original point - the music comp's not going to be all Etracker, is it? Where do you draw the line. Chipmusic, samples with no external hardware, MODs (played with whatever hardware).. -howard
Re: Virtual party
Mac Buster wrote: There are much more demos on Demotopia site :) First Association - 1.5Mb on the Speccy? What does it come on, 2 C90s? -howard
Re: Virtual party
Hi all. Did we get any further with this idea? It sounds like a goodie, seeing as real demo parties are pretty hard to whip up without lots of money/time/space/support. I'm definitely up for this, after getting loads of *fabulous* demo stuff from World of Spectrum. -Tobermory - Original Message - From: Mac Buster [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sam-Users ML sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 2:36 PM Subject: Virtual party Lets make a party with four competitions: 4k intro, single disk demo, music, graphics.
Re: Possibly New Keyboard membranes
The same here - it's only a matter of time before this membrane goes, so I'll need a couple more. Also, my mouse interface seems to be getting dodgy. Does anyone still tinker with them? -howard I'm in the process of talking to a company to have them create new SAM keyboard membranes, I'm sending them one to look at... Before I complete an order with them I have to have some sort of idea how many I should order and how much people would be willing to spend on a membrane (excluding postage from the Netherlands to you)... My idea is if they'll do it to get them to make 100 which may keep the price low enough to be interesting... So guys, please tell me I will not be stuck with 100 membranes myself (I only need 3) ? Cheers, Frans
Re: Memory Lane
Nobody seems to have voted for COLONY (Persona release), written by D.Koselo, which could just as easily mean that I simply didn't understand it. Whatever this strategy game (written in BASIC) was about, I always died for some unexplained reason in about 2 minutes! Was I doing something wrong? -howard
Re: Another thingy , cataloging sam discs!
Can everyone let me know how much ram they have so i can continue writing. My setup has 512K RAM with Meg... -howard
Re: Errr (Or who would like a game of bobbings!!)
Is this anything as satisfying as the splat Bill Gates game I was addicted to a year or two ago? -tob The last I ever heard of it was someone wrote bobbings - the wondrous SAM game - and gave out free copies at one of the Format shows. Good game for getting out your aggression. Luke
Re: Virtual party
This is a mighty fine idea, hell it has my vote! -howard Hello! There are organised a virtual party on the Speccy scene. Why we can't do something like that ? Lets make a party with four competitions: 4k intro, single disk demo, music, graphics. After a deadline all entries will be uploaded to the net and every visitor may watch/listen to them using real SAM or an emulator (this must be noted in the votesheet). So do you like this idea ?
New Mail Address
Hello y'all Sorry for clogging up Aley's mailbox (!) but the bosses are getting scared of the large amount of personal Email I'm getting here. Came back after Chrimbo to 100 messages! Stern corporate finger-wagging ahoy. My new Email address is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I've unsubscribed this account. Cheers - see you at home. tobermory=howard The NTICS Group: providers of Database Services to learndirect and Sheffield TEC. Contract management: Sheffield Libraries, Archives Information Service. National Training Information Central Support Unit 4 AVEC 1 Sidney Street Sheffield S1 4RG Tel: 0114 275 1046 Fax: 0114 273 0024 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.ntics.org.uk The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the addressee named above and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of NTICS or Sheffield City Council.
Re: 1 Meg users
Thanks for the replies, people!: Fake Full Motion Video in 3D on the SAM? It may even be feasible. 0.5 to 1K for each frame, 12 frames per second = minute long silent movies with extra memory. But let's not get overoptimistic, it doesn't work yet. -tobermory The NTICS Group: providers of Database Services to learndirect and Sheffield TEC. Contract management: Sheffield Libraries, Archives Information Service. National Training Information Central Support Unit 4 AVEC 1 Sidney Street Sheffield S1 4RG Tel: 0114 275 1046 Fax: 0114 273 0024 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.ntics.org.uk The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the addressee named above and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of NTICS or Sheffield City Council.
Re: 1 Meg users (FMV)
At 12:14 11/12/2000 -, you wrote: I've been making stuff with Quazar Video and its successor Quazar Video 2 for video on the Sam for 4 years now. This uses image compression and up to a max of 25 frames a second, complete with a sampled soundtrack. Sounds impressive! I'm doing it differently, because image compression was something I didn't want to get involved in, so I'm taking my 3D polygons at the 2D print stage, and storing them that way. Playback is faster 'cos I don't have to do the 3D-2D conversion stuff. -tobermory The NTICS Group: providers of Database Services to learndirect and Sheffield TEC. Contract management: Sheffield Libraries, Archives Information Service. National Training Information Central Support Unit 4 AVEC 1 Sidney Street Sheffield S1 4RG Tel: 0114 275 1046 Fax: 0114 273 0024 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.ntics.org.uk The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the addressee named above and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of NTICS or Sheffield City Council.
1 Meg users
Quick straw poll for anyone out there. Does anyone know how many people have 1 meg upgrades on their SAM? I guess it's round about 50-80 regular users... Gavin, maybe? -howard The NTICS Group: providers of Database Services to learndirect and Sheffield TEC. Contract management: Sheffield Libraries, Archives Information Service. National Training Information Central Support Unit 4 AVEC 1 Sidney Street Sheffield S1 4RG Tel: 0114 275 1046 Fax: 0114 273 0024 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.ntics.org.uk The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the addressee named above and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of NTICS or Sheffield City Council.
Re: Filesystem for HDD
At 16:18 04/12/2000 +0300, you wrote: I am not going to argue with you, I just want to say that SAM deserves better file manager with better features and better interface that NC has. I can't work out whether Aley or Mac Buster wrote this, but it seems to be the point. What's the idea with copying the PC simply because it's now the standard? The only point is to give everyone an easier time of it when you want to emulate SAM on your PCs. -howard The NTICS Group: providers of Database Services to learndirect and Sheffield TEC. Contract management: Sheffield Libraries, Archives Information Service. National Training Information Central Support Unit 4 AVEC 1 Sidney Street Sheffield S1 4RG Tel: 0114 275 1046 Fax: 0114 273 0024 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.ntics.org.uk The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the addressee named above and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of NTICS or Sheffield City Council.
Re: Filesystem for HDD
At 15:09 04/12/2000 +0100, Aley wrote: Look at the paraphrase: What's the idea with making left-hand drive cars in the UK, simply because left-hand drive is standard in the UK? The only point is to give everyone an easier time when they drive the car. Point taken. We seem to be coming at this from different sides. The reason I like SAM is mostly *because* it's cut off from the PC market., not because I think it can be highly compatible with PC architecture. It makes no real difference to me if you emulate key shortcuts from PC de facto standards or not. (I guess this is a pretty old-fashioned view) -howard The NTICS Group: providers of Database Services to learndirect and Sheffield TEC. Contract management: Sheffield Libraries, Archives Information Service. National Training Information Central Support Unit 4 AVEC 1 Sidney Street Sheffield S1 4RG Tel: 0114 275 1046 Fax: 0114 273 0024 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.ntics.org.uk The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the addressee named above and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of NTICS or Sheffield City Council.
Re: Anyone received SC?
At 22:58 19/11/2000 +, Gavin Smith wrote: If anyone has received issue 5 of SAM Community, *please* drop me a note as soon as possible (preferably before Monday lunchtime if you can). That's a negative, fieldmarshal Smith. Sorry! -private Price (call me howard) The NTICS Group: providers of Database Services to learndirect and Sheffield TEC. Contract management: Sheffield Libraries, Archives Information Service. National Training Information Central Support Unit 4 AVEC 1 Sidney Street Sheffield S1 4RG Tel: 0114 275 1046 Fax: 0114 273 0024 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.ntics.org.uk The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the addressee named above and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of NTICS or Sheffield City Council.
Re: SAM fixed (partly)
At 17:45 16/11/2000 GMT, Matthew Harding wrote: Anybody got dsk or sad images of the following games Pipemania, Sphera, and Void. Sorry, no images - but what hassles are you having with Sphera? It wasn't even protected (just hidden, in straight DOS). If the original doesn't work I can do you a copy. PS Luke! Sorry for being so crap with sending SAM C I'm on it, don't worry. -howard The NTICS Group: providers of Database Services to learndirect and Sheffield TEC. Contract management: Sheffield Libraries, Archives Information Service. National Training Information Central Support Unit 4 AVEC 1 Sidney Street Sheffield S1 4RG Tel: 0114 275 1046 Fax: 0114 273 0024 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.ntics.org.uk The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the addressee named above and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of NTICS or Sheffield City Council.
Re: Big disk
Someone, could be Luke Trevorrow, wrote: Cross compilation into Z80 - what about SDCC, but I'm sure there are others. How good is Small C on the SAM (which I would like to get a copy of)? Well, after giving SAM C another go I have to take back the majority of what I said before. If you forgive the fact that the IDE menu thing returns to BASIC every second assemble (or something), and that you can't type at a reasonable speed, it *does* seem to work pretty well. Colin should corroberate that I bought two copies, so if you want the second one, it's up for grabs. Might even have the spare manual somewhere... -tobermory The NTICS Group: providers of Database Services to learndirect and Sheffield TEC. Contract management: Sheffield Libraries, Archives Information Service. National Training Information Central Support Unit 4 AVEC 1 Sidney Street Sheffield S1 4RG Tel: 0114 275 1046 Fax: 0114 273 0024 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.ntics.org.uk The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the addressee named above and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of NTICS or Sheffield City Council.
Re: Big disk
At 11:22 31/10/2000 GMT, Luke Trevorrow wrote: Why don't we look at porting a new OS of some sort. This is one of the things that was mentioned when Dave was on this list inspiring people. Howzabout GEMDOS or one of the embedded UNIX kernels like ELKS (http://www.uk.linux.org/ELKS-Home/index.html) What language is the source in? C? Or would you use some sort of cross-compiler into Z80? How big is ELKS? All questions, no answers! -howard The NTICS Group: providers of Database Services to learndirect and Sheffield TEC. Contract management: Sheffield Libraries, Archives Information Service. National Training Information Central Support Unit 4 AVEC 1 Sidney Street Sheffield S1 4RG Tel: 0114 275 1046 Fax: 0114 273 0024 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.ntics.org.uk The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the addressee named above and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of NTICS or Sheffield City Council.
Re: Big disk
Ugh - sorry - slow Emailman. Ignore that last mail of mine. -howard The NTICS Group: providers of Database Services to learndirect and Sheffield TEC. Contract management: Sheffield Libraries, Archives Information Service. National Training Information Central Support Unit 4 AVEC 1 Sidney Street Sheffield S1 4RG Tel: 0114 275 1046 Fax: 0114 273 0024 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.ntics.org.uk The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the addressee named above and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of NTICS or Sheffield City Council.
Interlace (old thread)
Whoops, I mean 384 pixels: It's really easy to software-code an interlace mode like the Amiga, making the top resolution 512*384 in MODE 3 (4 colours per scan-line), It's not true interlace though -- but you can tell some monitors to move the display down a scanline and have true interlacing by doing that, and flashing the border white in the off-screen area for a short time when you want to jab it down a line :) Is there an algorithm? I gave it a go, but the white flash thing was completely unpredictable. -tobermory The NTICS Group: providers of Database Services to learndirect and Sheffield TEC. Contract management: Sheffield Libraries, Archives Information Service. National Training Information Central Support Unit 4 AVEC 1 Sidney Street Sheffield S1 4RG Tel: 0114 275 1046 Fax: 0114 273 0024 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.ntics.org.uk The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the addressee named above and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of NTICS or Sheffield City Council.
Re: SAM 2000?
Templates, classes, inheritance or at least usage of virtual methods is very strong tool for programmers. Of course, you can do anything like this better or less in C or asm, but if you are familiar with the theory of OOP, you have no reason to not use C++. Agreed. When I'm trying to write easily-updatable and expandable code, that you can understand easily, I always end up putting it into objects, copying classes and inheritance. OOP makes sense. But does the presence of extra stuff (that Justin doesn't need) actually hinder the compilation? (Another silly question). -howard The NTICS Group: providers of Database Services to learndirect and Sheffield TEC. Contract management: Sheffield Libraries, Archives Information Service. National Training Information Central Support Unit 4 AVEC 1 Sidney Street Sheffield S1 4RG Tel: 0114 275 1046 Fax: 0114 273 0024 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.ntics.org.uk The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the addressee named above and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of NTICS or Sheffield City Council.
RE: SAM 2000?
I'm afraid I side with Aley. I wouldn't say it's impossible, or even that hard, if you know what you're doing, but there are loads of drawbacks. People who want to use the SAM in its own box don't need Ethernet etc etc. They want a cheap copy of the SAM, no Rage, no 600MHz (what would the point be with all that power?). I haven't got £400 to spend on another SAM, even though my real one must eventually pack in (see later). I have no need for a DVD on my SAM, though I'm sure B-Dos could support it. People have been trying to put SAM in a PC box for years, and it's complicated. So Aley, this is just as naive, but what was that about using the 32K Rom for OS, C compiler etc? Is it implausible if you used an EPROM? -howard PS Is Len Bennet there? Do you fix SAM mice? My interface has a dodgy lead. The NTICS Group: providers of Database Services to learndirect and Sheffield TEC. Contract management: Sheffield Libraries, Archives Information Service. National Training Information Central Support Unit 4 AVEC 1 Sidney Street Sheffield S1 4RG Tel: 0114 275 1046 Fax: 0114 273 0024 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.ntics.org.uk The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the addressee named above and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of NTICS or Sheffield City Council.
Re: Progress
Downgrading for the SAM is complicated, because it has 7-bit colour. 2 bits for each of RGB, and the Spectrum handed down its 'half-brightness' bit. I knew there was a reason I shouldnt go down this road! [rr][gg][bb][x] is the layout? Actually it works as [0][R][G][B][h][r][g][b]. As you can imagine, colour alterations from RBG perspective is a nightmare! Carrier Command - the 3d wireframe is simple. Given a fast scanline routine it could be made solid ( AKA Atari ST version ) quite simply. The Z80B seems to achieve 80% speed of the same polygon fill algorithm as the 68000. Im not pretending to have written the fastest algorithm but it gives me a good feeling that solid 3D games are possible given we restrict the number of polygons on screen - perhaps with a limited depth z-buffer algorithm? Don't even think about Z-buffering with SAM! I think it's a complete blind alley. What I did for non-sector (ie outside) 3D, was to do the opposite, and store WRITTEN SPANS in 2D, so that you can clear the screen or redraw the background with no calculations at all. It refuses to work so far, but promises to save about 30-35% total render time! Unfortunately, this is lost with sector-portal based 3D but you know the whole screen gets overwritten, so there's no need to clear the screen at all. Hmmm. The spectrum version of Elite was not the best by a long shot IMHO and I was a spectrum bigot before I became a general bigot. Im not convinced that Mode 4 is particularly fast. Whilst I can create a bitmap from my 3d algorithms quickly when it comes to displaying it on screen the frame rate drops dramatically compared to the same non hardware blittered Amiga version. Perhaps Im not taking advantage of some shortcut? It isnt so noticeable on the sprite engine I have already. If I limit the projection size to 64x64 it speeds up disproportionatly to the performance figures projected by the 94x94 and 128x128 figures. If this is the case it would be easier to create a Space Hulk type game because it would run at the same speed as a 3d game in 128x128 even if we projected 4 live action views. Is this because of the way SAM handles screen memory? I (mis)use the SP register a lot with rendering. Because there's a lot of similar information, a few Kb with PUSH HL; PUSH HL etc etc in it saves a lot of time. This may not be practical on the Spectrum 48K, so SAM enjoys a faster render time. As for the 4*little viewwindows is faster than one large one, how??! There seems to be as much time with actual rendering, and four times as much clipping and actual gameplay coding! 7) Finally, is there a decent GUI project for the SAM? Ages ago Steve Taylor wrote a MODE 3 one, but it never caught on cos it cost too much and was fiddly to convert existing software. And it's word processor was apparantly too slow for real typists. This might be the same display update limitation I am hitting? I don't think so actually. I haven't seen the code, but it didn't do anything in the background, so what you had was a dorment (bar keyscan and mouse update) OS running a word-processor. Sounds crazy to me, but I've never tried anything so big. BTW you haven't pissed me off with crazy ideas. I don't care - isn't this what the list is for? -howard The NTICS Group: providers of Database Services to learndirect and Sheffield TEC. Contract management: Sheffield Libraries, Archives Information Service. National Training Information Central Support Unit 4 AVEC 1 Sidney Street Sheffield S1 4RG Tel: 0114 275 1046 Fax: 0114 273 0024 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.ntics.org.uk The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the addressee named above and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of NTICS or Sheffield City Council.
Re: Progress
Graphics: This uses downgraded graphics in 16 colours. Because we will spend the most time on making these look good and touching up the graphics so they dont look like routine scaled and degraded graphics this will be the version that has most of the time on it. Ive tried thinking about how I used to work out downgrading routines on the AMIGA for HAM, the rules were more complex than the line modifications that SAM VLSI ( or is it ASIC? ) can give us in mode 4. If I can get it to work I can hopefully take advantage of it to produce more colours on screen Downgrading for the SAM is complicated, because it has 7-bit colour. 2 bits for each of RGB, and the Spectrum handed down its 'half-brightness' bit. Which ever way you split the RGB space, brightness and saturation levels (is this called 'gamma'??) are different, so it looks a tiny bit odd. It's really easy to software-code an interlace mode like the Amiga, making the top resolution 512*284 in MODE 3 (4 colours per scan-line), and the results can be quite nice. On the other hand, ages ago Mike AJ flicked between diffferent palettes to fake new colours. It's not quite as convincing, especially with large blocks of colour. If you're clever with textures, you can get a passable effect. As for breadboarding new graphics chips, I have no idea! Strangely enough it isnt that hard to provide a game construction kit ( I know I know ) once you have put together a game engine properly ( which I never have done before now ). Luckily, Atic-Atac is fairly static, with only a few sprites on-screen at once. But for more more active games (say, Space Harrier), I'd suggest a Sprite Builder. There are two good ones on Fred disks. One's really stable (by Stefan Drissen), and the other's a bit faster (by Marc Broster). They take advantage of the SAM's screen memory (nice and simple) and shortcuts with the chipset to produce a single print program for each sprite frame. There's a few provisos - - you can't clip the sprites on the edge of the screen, it can get memory expensive, it is SAM-specific. But it's useful. The Isometric, someone pointed out that this would not be true 3d - correct. I would like to do a limited iteration voxel display. Voxel? Sorry you've lost me. What I meant was that you didn't have a 3D map containing isometric data for a room, 'cos it could be (say) 20x20x20 blocks big, and 8 bytes per block would make a very memory inefficient system. However, if you used a much simpler coordinate system for each room, you could convert it to the first system at display time, which would be really playable. Other 3D isometrics like Inside Outing, Last Ninja 2 and Movie relied on being really flat. It might as well have been a straight aerial projection! Momentum is the only real SAM isometric game I think Dave, and Graham Burtenshaw probably wrote it in BASIC (doesn't mean it's not really good, just really, really slow at swapping screens). 1) hardware expansion port - can it support frame buffers, would it be worth my while trying to breadboard up a different graphics chip at some point, are there any examples of this already out there? Yes. Well, no.(!) SAM doesn't support frame buffers, all it has is a video paging system, selectable to 32K segments, even for MODE 1 (Speccy emulation with only 6912 bytes per screen). Since each Mode 3/4 screen is 24K, you can fake one (with a lot of wasted memory), and set up an interrupt call to swap the pages. SamBASIC only caters to opening separate SCREENs up, in the same manner. Interestingly, it does also do non-overlapping windows - sorry, non manual here at work so I can't quote keywords. 4) Is there a SAM Carrier Command/Elite already? Don't start! Long and bitter tales about this - we eventually got a Spectrum port of Elite with patched LOAD and SAVE routines, sold at full price. Brenchley said it wasn't possible to render solid 3D in MODE 4 so he was doing us a favour by 'sticking as closely as possible to the best version' ie the Speccy. (PS I disagree.) 7) Finally, is there a decent GUI project for the SAM? Ages ago Steve Taylor wrote a MODE 3 one, but it never caught on cos it cost too much and was fiddly to convert existing software. And it's word processor was apparantly too slow for real typists. You might try hacking SAMmines by Mnemotech/Andrew Collier, and I like the GI_monitor one, though you can't redefine windows' size and position! I've got a bunch of display routines and graphics for a system I started for O3D. I did a nice robust priority table routine, but the button scanning is atrocious, even when you only scan for live windows and desktop icons. Oh, and it's in Assembler. Cheers! -howard The NTICS Group: providers of Database Services to learndirect and Sheffield TEC. Contract management: Sheffield Libraries, Archives Information Service. National Training Information Central Support Unit 4 AVEC 1 Sidney Street Sheffield S1 4RG Tel: 0114 275 1046 Fax:
Re: New User
At 20:16 17/10/2000 +0100, you wrote: I don't know where we stand with Protracker, but this package (in my opinion) is loads better for chip music. As far as I'm concerned - he can have a copy - if anyone can sort it out for him! David So where do we stand Dave? Do you know anything about who controls the (massive) Persona back-catalogue? There's loads of Persona stuff that looked fabulous that never quite got released - SAM Fighter for instance.. -howard The NTICS Group: providers of Database Services to learndirect and Sheffield TEC. Contract management: Sheffield Libraries, Archives Information Service. National Training Information Central Support Unit 4 AVEC 1 Sidney Street Sheffield S1 4RG Tel: 0114 275 1046 Fax: 0114 273 0024 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.ntics.org.uk The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the addressee named above and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of NTICS or Sheffield City Council.
Re: New User
Hi there Dave - nice to see someone return to the Sam!. Here's my two cents on what you said - Flash No-one seems to use this much now. SAMpaint's the cottage industry standard, and boasts all the stuff you expect from a real paint package, like mouse support for a start. Then add in bezier curves, intelligent gradient filling, multiple screen manipulation, and a few other things... 101 games I had dissassembled, modified and ported the graphics for ( my own amusement ) including. Carrier Command ( ZX ), Head Over Heels ( Amiga graphics ), A sub thing from Hewson Software I think, Jet Pac, Renegade. Great! I know it's technically illegal, but are you planning to let anyone have a copy? Head over Heels, for example, is my favourite game of all time, any format. There's supposed to be a single PD library deal about called SAM Community, you may have seen the website, but I haven't heard much from Gavin Smith recently. Are you there Gav?!! :) Ive got a great idea from the game engine up ( rather than starting on the graphics ;-) ) and am drafting it at the moment in C on my Amiga ( sitting to the right of the PC and to the left of the RS6000 ). Im making sure the gaming window works in 192x192 and has a 32x192 panel to the right for status, inventory and the like. If any of you has an Amiga emulator I should be able to send a binary before I start on the SAM version ( I need to get the wee beastie working again! ). What's the engine going to do? (I'm struggling with a solid 3D engine right now). Ideally I would not like to go back to Z80 assembler although Blinky has already helped me out by sending me a link to COMET which looks rather excellent. If there is a C compiler that produces the goods ( even in cross compiler mode ) that would be ideal. I dunno what everyone else thinks, but I found the C compiler extremely frustrating. For a start it's Small C, so there was no floats, and then that was remedied with a fiddly SAM vision add-on. A pity, cos it would have been lovely. COMET is the Z80 platform I use, and it's really stable and easy to use. I remember playing around with something called GamesMaster and the Sound Machine but they both seemed a little slow. The Sound Machine got left behind after ESI (coding group) produced E-Tracker, which you can probably pick up pretty easily (I'll send you my copy if you like 'cos I don't use it any more). It produces a nice compact, but non-relocatable code block after you've shoved your tunes through the compiler. I don't know where we stand with Protracker, but this package (in my opinion) is loads better for chip music. Persona used to sell it, but poor old Mack (Malcolm Mackenzie) who ran the company, died in early 1999. The rest of the Mackenzie family decided to call it a day after that, leaving things a bit muddled now. If you can get your hands on a copy, good for you. Good luck man -howard price The NTICS Group: providers of Database Services to learndirect and Sheffield TEC. Contract management: Sheffield Libraries, Archives Information Service. National Training Information Central Support Unit 4 AVEC 1 Sidney Street Sheffield S1 4RG Tel: 0114 275 1046 Fax: 0114 273 0024 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.ntics.org.uk The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the addressee named above and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of NTICS or Sheffield City Council.
Re: Console Coupe - more complete calculations
Is it just me, or did it suddenly get geekier in here? :-) But is there really positive and negative zeroes? It's peaked my geeky interest. On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 12:04:03AM -0700, Simon Cooke wrote: Hmmm... looks like everyone's ignoring the transfinite set of numbers, Cantor sets, and Aleph^0, Aleph^1, Aleph^2, etc. The transfinite ordinals are ordinals, not numbers; and the Alephs are cardinals, not necessarily numbers either. If by Cantor set you mean that set of trinary numbers between 0 and 1 which don't contain the digit 1 then that's a set (of cardinality 2^Aleph0 and measure 0) and not a number either. Also, the fact that you can have positive and negative zero... In what branch of mathematics? I've never heard of it. The NTICS Group: providers of Database Services to learndirect and Sheffield TEC. Contract management: Sheffield Libraries, Archives Information Service. National Training Information Central Support Unit 4 AVEC 1 Sidney Street Sheffield S1 4RG Tel: 0114 275 1046 Fax: 0114 273 0024 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.ntics.org.uk The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the addressee named above and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of NTICS or Sheffield City Council.
Re: Console Coupe - more complete calculations
At 16:31 02/10/2000 +0200, you wrote: Hey man, your subscribe is longer than your message! Don't I know it! - Nothing to do with me - I'm forcefully appended by a central 'bureacracy computer', cos I work for the council. They think that anything I send over E-mail might get them into court. Losers! -howard The NTICS Group: providers of Database Services to learndirect and Sheffield TEC. Contract management: Sheffield Libraries, Archives Information Service. National Training Information Central Support Unit 4 AVEC 1 Sidney Street Sheffield S1 4RG Tel: 0114 275 1046 Fax: 0114 273 0024 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.ntics.org.uk The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the addressee named above and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of NTICS or Sheffield City Council.
Re: Console Coupe
And I mean immutable, not commutable, don't I? -tob The NTICS Group: providers of Database Services to learndirect and Sheffield TEC. Contract management: Sheffield Libraries, Archives Information Service. National Training Information Central Support Unit 4 AVEC 1 Sidney Street Sheffield S1 4RG Tel: 0114 275 1046 Fax: 0114 273 0024 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.ntics.org.uk The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the addressee named above and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of NTICS or Sheffield City Council.
Re: Console Coupe
Aley Keprt wrote: zero divided by zero was. We had people arguing for '0/x = 0', others for 'x/x = 1' and the rest as 'x/0 = undefined'. If you assume that all of the above are true and commutable, you must also assume that on the graph where these equations drawn, the point x=0 is where these functions meet. It's a fairly sharp curve at the point x=0, in fact, infinitely steep, so you must conclude that y is not just - anything -, but - everything -. Ramble, ramble. Perhaps we should do the same here, tho I'm sure the first rely would settle it? Right that's sorted. Who's up for square root of minus one? No i's in the answer please. -tobermory The NTICS Group: providers of Database Services to learndirect and Sheffield TEC. Contract management: Sheffield Libraries, Archives Information Service. National Training Information Central Support Unit 4 AVEC 1 Sidney Street Sheffield S1 4RG Tel: 0114 275 1046 Fax: 0114 273 0024 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.ntics.org.uk The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the addressee named above and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of NTICS or Sheffield City Council.
Re: Console Coupe
Well, things haven't been that off-topic for a while. I accidentally started an argument on IRC the other day by bringing up the question of what zero divided by zero was. We had people arguing for '0/x = 0', others for 'x/x = 1' and the rest as 'x/0 = undefined'. Perhaps we should do the same here, tho I'm sure the first rely would settle it? *ramble* *ramble* ... This is a 'how many angels can dance on the head of a pin' innit? 'Dividing into zero, equally-sized parts'. Never gonna happen, except in my beloved school dinners. -tobermory The NTICS Group: providers of Database Services to learndirect and Sheffield TEC. Contract management: Sheffield Libraries, Archives Information Service. National Training Information Central Support Unit 4 AVEC 1 Sidney Street Sheffield S1 4RG Tel: 0114 275 1046 Fax: 0114 273 0024 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.ntics.org.uk The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the addressee named above and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of NTICS or Sheffield City Council.
Re: Console Coupe
At 14:21 28/09/2000 +0200, you wrote: So why cannot we accept any (numeric) answer? 0*anything=0 infinite*anything=infinite This implies that 0=infinite. (Brain melts) When my gradient routine has to work out a horizontal line, it behaves very intelligently. It puts off giving me an answer until you reset. Some algorithms are just *too* correct. -tobermory -- Bc.Aley [eili] Keprt - entertainment programmer (gamesmultimedia) ICQ: 82357182 (evenings) *** phone: +420-68-5387035 (weekends) e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** http://get.to/aley -- - Original Message - From: Simon Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 1:45 PM Subject: RE: Console Coupe Aley Keprt wrote: What was the question? 0/0? Yes. Of course I forgot the 4th option of 0/0 = 42... Si The NTICS Group: providers of Database Services to learndirect and Sheffield TEC. Contract management: Sheffield Libraries, Archives Information Service. National Training Information Central Support Unit 4 AVEC 1 Sidney Street Sheffield S1 4RG Tel: 0114 275 1046 Fax: 0114 273 0024 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.ntics.org.uk The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the addressee named above and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of NTICS or Sheffield City Council.
Key contention
Hi everyone I'm afraid I haven't been paying attention in the past, so sorry for going over old topics I've been having serious problems with key to mouse contention, using Steve Taylor's routines. The arrow keys with F0 and fullstop do not read at the same time as moving the mouse, and doing more than one scan for 8 keys seems to cause problems. Is there a way round this, or will I have to poll the mouse and keyboard on separate rounds? The keyread routine is searching for 8 keys at once (couldn't get the full keyboard read routine to work for me)... cheers! -howard The NTICS Group: providers of Database Services to learndirect and Sheffield TEC. Contract management: Sheffield Libraries, Archives Information Service. National Training Information Central Support Unit 4 AVEC 1 Sidney Street Sheffield S1 4RG Tel: 0114 275 1046 Fax: 0114 273 0024 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.ntics.org.uk The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the addressee named above and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of NTICS or Sheffield City Council.
Re: Outwrite Text Files
At 02:54 19/07/2000 +0200, Edwin Blink wrote: (Currently Enjoying a proto B2K MOD slide demo) What's this doodie then? -tobermory The NTICS Group: providers of Database Services to learndirect and Sheffield TEC. Contract management: Sheffield Libraries, Archives Information Service. National Training Information Central Support Unit 4 AVEC 1 Sidney Street Sheffield S1 4RG Tel: 0114 275 1046 Fax: 0114 273 0024 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.ntics.clara.net The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the addressee named above and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of NTICS or Sheffield City Council.
Re: 128 compatibility - some technical details
At 14:27 19/07/2000 +0100, Andrew Gallagher wrote: That reminds me of an idea I had - quite often the sound in Speccy games being played on the sam is horrible because of the different clock speeds. What would be involved in making a software-controllable clock? For example, a small piece of logic which reads a rate from a particular port and controls an adjustable clock circuit appropriately? Would it be worthwhile? (I could see its use in speccy emulation) And could you then write a program which fried your hardware? :-) Sounds very expensive, especially the bit about the adjustable clock circuit. For my limited knowledge, the crystal can only 'tick' at a certain speed because of it's inbuilt resonant electromagnetic frequency. Literally, the electricity passed through the Quartz (or whatever) causes it to perform simple harmonic motion. But having said that - it would solve all the speed problems of Speccy emulation (sprites haring around like Miner Willy on speed). Was the second Z80 mentioned in the hardware solution going to be able to run as a co-processor? Mmmm, dedicated hardware.. -tobermory The NTICS Group: providers of Database Services to learndirect and Sheffield TEC. Contract management: Sheffield Libraries, Archives Information Service. National Training Information Central Support Unit 4 AVEC 1 Sidney Street Sheffield S1 4RG Tel: 0114 275 1046 Fax: 0114 273 0024 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.ntics.clara.net The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the addressee named above and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of NTICS or Sheffield City Council.
Re: making the SAM spectrum 128 compatible
At 20:29 17/07/2000 +0100, you wrote: -general bickering- I can see both points fairly well. There's nothing like a good bit of programming to make you feel like you're SAM is every bit as good as the standard PCs - they all seem to be programmed so flimsily that a simple routine takes a whole SAM memory. Long may the bitter arguments continue; I'm up for great coding challenges on machines that have supposedly been made 'redundant' AND total hardcore emulation. -tobermory The NTICS Group: providers of Database Services to learndirect and Sheffield TEC. Contract management: Sheffield Libraries, Archives Information Service. National Training Information Central Support Unit 4 AVEC 1 Sidney Street Sheffield S1 4RG Tel: 0114 275 1046 Fax: 0114 273 0024 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.ntics.clara.net The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the addressee named above and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of NTICS or Sheffield City Council.
Re: Outwrite Text Files
Sounds like fighitng talk. I've recently had to resort to a BASIC word processor from Enceladus 8 because I couldn't get Outwrite to work for me (Atom compatibility etc etc)..Is it time for a WYSIWYG?!! -tobermory btw. Outwrite is the most stupid text editor for Sam Coupe. Doesn't support 512kb RAM, doesn't support variable width character fonts, (desn't support ANY fonts), doesn't support bold, italic or simply said ANY style. I understand that Tasword was made in 1983, so it is simple. But why original Sam software is so stupid The NTICS Group: providers of Database Services to learndirect and Sheffield TEC. Contract management: Sheffield Libraries, Archives Information Service. National Training Information Central Support Unit 4 AVEC 1 Sidney Street Sheffield S1 4RG Tel: 0114 275 1046 Fax: 0114 273 0024 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.ntics.clara.net The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the addressee named above and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of NTICS or Sheffield City Council.
Re: Sam currently on eBay
At 15:00 13/07/2000 +0100, you wrote: I would be happy to bid on behalf of anyone if you would like it. I've done a bit of buying and selling and have a good rating and would be happy to ship it anywhere in the world as long as you pick up the cost. It's currently at 10.50 UKP. The seller seems a bit cautious specifying UK bidders only, I've shipped some quite large packages around the world without problems! Cheers, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Emailing from work at the moment) The NTICS Group: providers of Database Services to learndirect and Sheffield TEC. Contract management: Sheffield Libraries, Archives Information Service. National Training Information Central Support Unit 4 AVEC 1 Sidney Street Sheffield S1 4RG Tel: 0114 275 1046 Fax: 0114 273 0024 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.ntics.clara.net The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the addressee named above and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of NTICS or Sheffield City Council.
Re: ROM3 - I have some eproms
Of the two 16K ROM images that come with the emulators, am I right in thinking that ROM0 goes in lower 16K of the eprom and ROM1 in the top 16K? Thanks, Andy Yeah, that's right - but what actually went into the ROM1?? I've never found a use for it. I expect it's FPC stuff ...? -howard The NTICS Group: providers of Database Services to learndirect and Sheffield TEC. Contract management: Sheffield Libraries, Archives Information Service. National Training Information Central Support Unit 4 AVEC 1 Sidney Street Sheffield S1 4RG Tel: 0114 275 1046 Fax: 0114 273 0024 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.ntics.clara.net The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the addressee named above and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of NTICS or Sheffield City Council.
Re: be back...
After 5 days being lost from the net, thanksfully to the biggest PC crash I ever Sort of related - - I've had one or two scary run-ins with my Hard Drive the past few weeks. It seems sometimes that the power supply is dipping (my guess), and this means it can't find sectors (??!) for some reason, and the entire DOS refuses to work. It's only happened a couple of times, but the result is truly ghastly. Is this healthy? Or safe? Or preventable? Edwin? Len? If it helps, I do also still get a high pitched whine coming through the monitor speakers from bad earthing or something like that. I've had to completely recover Open3D from an erased disk previously (hence the bad delay), so hats off to KE_Disk, the best program in the world. ever! -howard=tobermory The NTICS Group: providers of Database Services to learndirect and Sheffield TEC. Contract management: Sheffield Libraries, Archives Information Service. National Training Information Central Support Unit 4 AVEC 1 Sidney Street Sheffield S1 4RG Tel: 0114 275 1046 Fax: 0114 273 0024 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.ntics.clara.net The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the addressee named above and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of NTICS or Sheffield City Council.
Re: News and gossip required...
At 23:40 03/07/2000 +0100, you wrote: SAM Community issue 5 will be posted this Friday. Any news or bits and pieces of anything SAM related appreciated as ever, especially any projects (whether software or hardware) which are being started/being picked up again/being considered. Would be easier for me if you'd mail me directly. Gavin Hey Gavin - got the complete issue 4 a couple of days ago. Thanks very much! Looking forward to issue 5. If only I could give you some more info -tobermory The NTICS Group: providers of Database Services to learndirect and Sheffield TEC. Contract management: Sheffield Libraries, Archives Information Service. National Training Information Central Support Unit 4 AVEC 1 Sidney Street Sheffield S1 4RG Tel: 0114 275 1046 Fax: 0114 273 0024 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.ntics.clara.net The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the addressee named above and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of NTICS or Sheffield City Council.
Re: odds and ends for grabs....
1 x SAM (i.e. BBC) parallel printer cable I'm well interested in this one Andy. How much do you want for it? Cheers! -howard The NTICS Group: providers of Database Services to learndirect and Sheffield TEC. Contract management: Sheffield Libraries, Archives Information Service. National Training Information Central Support Unit 4 AVEC 1 Sidney Street Sheffield S1 4RG Tel: 0114 275 1046 Fax: 0114 273 0024 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.ntics.clara.net The contents of this e-mail are confidential to the addressee named above and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of NTICS or Sheffield City Council.
Re: Renegade game ?
*if* I could code I'd probably have a bash at it myself... H... would it be usable under Scads I wonder? BTW - reloaded the Persona site again... although added a warning so people dont try and order stuff :) i'll be glad when the 250mb of space I've got waiting for me goes on line.,... only got about 5mb left :( Brilliant! What's the URL? I also heard and saw that SAM Fighter thing going great guns. Does anyone know what happened to whoever was doing it? (For those who didn't know - - I don't think it was ever released, but it was a sort of Street Fighter game with crazy aliens for fighters. They had well weird body structures - looked great!) -tobermory
Sigs
My advance apologies. The business EMail server will now put a 50-line signiture on the end of each and every EMail I send. Don't 'flame' me! -tobermory
Re: Anyone help here spin-off
At 00:50 26/06/2000 +0100, you wrote: saw Wayne Hay other day ( incase you don't know him he did Pipemania on Sam for Enigma ) No showed him WinCoupe and he loved it , now he need a image ov Pipemania. Anyone feeling helpfull email it to me Never heard of him, sorry! Did he do anything else in his time? Pipemania is another one of those 'lost greats' that I used to play on my dad's PC cos I couldn't afford it on the SAM... -tobermory
Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
What's up Gavin? Your mail refuses to go through... Hmm! Sorry about that. Pages 11-13 contained an article/program about using MasterBasic with BDOS and page 14 was the start of the Atom review. I'll stick another copy in the post for you tomorrow morning. Gavin Cheers! No sweat man... -howard PS I hope this one gets to you - the server I'm on refused to sent the other one. Regards, Howard Price Regards, Howard Price
Oh no! I'm missing out
Good greif! I was just leafing through SAM Community and I noticed (much to my amazement) that I haven't got the middle pages (11-14). What's happening? Any news I need to know about? -howard
Re: Completely off topic posting!!!
Daveykins wrote: * 380w Speakers What the hell?!! I'm not sure I want a WindowsDing to go that loud. You must be pretty damn deaf, man. -tobermory
Feedback!
Sorry. How's about this for a bit more help. I can do most weekends if you give me a month or so's notice. I've got a bit of material which I can bring along, though I don't feel confident enough to have a staff, and if I mentioned it to Dave at Crashed, he might turn it into a Crashed stall - at which him and me would be there. Crashed PD was always going to be a Spectrum PD library, and Dave doesn't think there's enough interest for it to start yet (or maybe ever!). Having said that, he's been doing Crashed for about 2 years now, and he's got some nice (but a little vulgar) back issues for sale. He lives in London so it's a bit of a trek, and he will absolutely not make any money, but it might be worth it if he can get his mate (who he works in a shop with) from Retrogamer to bring down a stall aswell. I can bring my SAM and monitor if necessary - it's a bit of a struggle, but it's worth it. It runs BDOS and Atom hardware into a 42Mb harddisk, so if I'm clever I can run off software if it's ready in time. *Open3D will definately be ready for a sophisticated release, probably with a nice Windows-style front end for designing stuff. I will be able to give the latest version away free if you bring a disk, or if there's any demand, I can buy some disks and press them up as and when you'd like it. *The Diaspora SAM support disks will also be available, which will be nice if you get Crashed. I do warn you, however, it's not seriously supposed to be much use if you DON'T get Crashed, so we'll see if they get sold together or summat. *There may well be a few other disks coming out by then, as Atom Man (remember him?!) is still in production in a couple of games - Matinee and the real one, The Atom Man Files). However, because there's no retailer for these, it's a bit of a labour of love! I look forward to this event if you're having it. I've never had any real contribution to make to the SAM scene, and now I'd like to do something a bit worthwhile. Good luck! -tobermory=howard Regards, Howard Price
Re: Shows etc
Anyone okay for Horwich, some time a little later in the year, where the last NSSS was held? Weelll... that's 2 votes for November any further ones? :) Novenber in Horwich suits me mighty fine. Best get booking my good man! -tobermory
SAM community
Hiya Gavin, Nice going with the latest issue. A little late (again) but what do you want? A stopwatch?? (Again) A small question, though. Valient as your mag is, what I really want is a full and comprehensive list of the only SAM PD library in existence. How can I get hold of one? This is the second time it's fallen off the end of the priority list, and I'm thinking it always will. If someone wrote a catalogue disk, could you use it to provide up-to-date information on the software on offer? Or maybe just a paper-based list or E-Mail will do. I'm desparate! (sorta) -tobermory
Re: Printer request
At 18:26 08/06/2000 +0100, you wrote: Try Bennett Electronics - see his advert in this issue's SAM Community (which should have arrived today or tomorrow at the latest!) Gavin Cheers - may come in very useful. Funnily enough, Community ain't arrived yet - must be the Ireland-England crossover. I've got a question though. How do you enter stuff in the File Library? Can I keep updating Open3D as and when it arrives? Or will you have 8 different versions eventually, all in different stages? -howard
Re: Printer request
At 18:23 08/06/2000 +0100, you wrote: I've got a Sam printer/serial interface up for grabs and open to offers. I'll make my bid now then. How much do you want for it? I'll just get a standard dot matrix printer plugged into it, that'll work, won't it? Cheers! -howard=tobermory PS Need it for Crashed column in future - - new ish out in about a week I think. E-Mail to Dave Fountain [EMAIL PROTECTED] for info! Regards, Howard Price
Printer request
Can anyone get their hands on a printer interface any more?? -howard
Protracker 'protection'
And can anyone put this great package out into the public domain or something? Or make it run on my Atom harddisk? I'd love it if you could. Fiscally. If you just mean my compiler, then I don't see a problem with distributing it and it should work fine from the Atom. But since you probably meant the main ProTracker2 package, that's a bit more complicated. Not only do we have the usual Sam Coupe copyright problems (i.e. a copyright holder who is no longer active in the Sam market but has not released the copyrights) but even if we could get around that, there's also the problem that Persona used non-trivial copy protection, which someone would have to entirely decode in order to make a atom-compatible version. Well, preliminary fiddling into the copy protection (MERGE Auto: POKE 81920,a$: Load monitor) seems to show it's easy pickings to remove the protection: After the usual jumping down to LoMem and setting a palette, this is the code: OUT (254),A LD A,30 OUT (251),A OR 96 OUT (252),A CALL 197; Set values for reading Side A of disk LD HL,32768 LD DE,3329 LD BC,24 CALL 234;Load Persona logo screen into page 30 LD HL,165 CALL 394;Fade up Persona palette LD C,10 CALL 380;Wait for 10 seconds (supposedly!) LD HL,165 CALL 457;Fade down Persona palette LD A,30 OUT (251),A XOR A OUT (254),A LD HL,32768 LD DE,4865 LD B,24 CALL 234;Load Protracker loading screen LD HL,181 CALL 394;Fade in Protracker loading screen LD A,0 OUT (251),A LD HL,46384 LD DE,6401 LD B,35 CALL 234;Load side A of protracker LD A,12 OUT (251),A CALL 201;Set values for reading Side B of disk LD HL,32768 LD DE,1 LD B,241 CALL 234;Load side B of Protracker LD HL,181 CALL 457;Fade out loading screen LD A,1 OUT (251),A ;Put program into HiMem JP 41810;Call program! The only protection seems to be the lack of a FAT table or something - I don't pretend to be a genius about disks and stuff - which should be easy. It just needs other protection if it's not going to be pirated (which may or may not be legal now). More when it's ready! -tob
Re: How depressing.
does ANYBODY on this list actually use my ProTracker2 compiler? Or know anybody else that uses it? YES!!! I've written about 20 minutes of fabulous music for a game which isn't finished yet! Do you want to hear it??? Protracker is the best fucking chip music package there is, and I love it. Course, I had to work out how long each piece was before it looped, and then reset your player, but in the main it works fine. Mack told me once that you made the compiler without any help from BZYK, is that true? And can anyone put this great package out into the public domain or something? Or make it run on my Atom harddisk? I'd love it if you could. Fiscally. I think I'll cobble together a little player program for the music I wrote - it's the finest chipmusic known to man AS ENDORSED BY THE PAPAL STATE. -tobermory
SAM Community mag
Hello SAMchatgroup! I've just subscribed. Does anyone know when the next SAM Community magazine thing's out Tobermory
