Re: Bug in game Oh No! More Lemmings

2014-08-27 Thread Solaris104
I can not finish level 15, rating Crazy, password RHAOENPI. Maybe another bug?

From: James R Curry 
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 5:47 PM
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no 
Subject: Re: Bug in game Oh No! More Lemmings

Level 3 of Crazy on the Sam version of Oh No More Lemmings! is impossible to 
complete.  I'm not sure if there was ever a fix.  I think the level codes are 
on an issue of Fred so you can skip to Level 4.



On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Simon Owen simon.o...@simcoupe.org wrote:

  On 11/08/2014 12:19, Solaris104 wrote:
   I played this game and I found a bug in the level 3 (rating crazy),
   password NEYLEKNO.  Does it exist any fix and level codes for this game?
   Solaris104

  What is the bug you think you found?  I've just tried it here and that
  level does start correctly for me, though I've not tried completing it..

  If you have a .SDF disk image for either Lemmings or Oh No More
  Lemmings, the disk image is incomplete.  They are truncated at 80
  tracks, but the complete disk uses 82 tracks, and will stop working at
  one of the later levels that access the missing tracks.  I do remember
  hitting the limit in the original Lemmings game, but I don't know where
  the problem would be seen with the Oh No More Lemmings.  I did try
  truncating my disk image to 80 tracks to see if I could reproduce it,
  but level 3 (crazy) still started correctly.

  If you can describe the symptoms in more detail I'll see if I can
  reproduce it here.

  Si






-- 
James R Curry
8...@itdoesntsuck.com 

Re: Bug in game Oh No! More Lemmings

2014-08-27 Thread James R Curry
It wouldn't surprise me.  My understanding is that the bug affects more
than one level, which is why I stopped playing ONML on the Sam.

I wish there was a patch.  It's to do with the explosion size.


On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Solaris104 solaris...@post.cz wrote:

   I can not finish level 15, rating Crazy, password RHAOENPI. Maybe
 another bug?

  *From:* James R Curry 8...@itdoesntsuck.com
 *Sent:* Sunday, August 17, 2014 5:47 PM
 *To:* sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
 *Subject:* Re: Bug in game Oh No! More Lemmings

  Level 3 of Crazy on the Sam version of Oh No More Lemmings! is
 impossible to complete.  I'm not sure if there was ever a fix.  I think the
 level codes are on an issue of Fred so you can skip to Level 4.


 On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Simon Owen simon.o...@simcoupe.org
 wrote:

  On 11/08/2014 12:19, Solaris104 wrote:
  I played this game and I found a bug in the level 3 (rating crazy),
  password NEYLEKNO.  Does it exist any fix and level codes for this game?
  Solaris104
 What is the bug you think you found?  I've just tried it here and that
 level does start correctly for me, though I've not tried completing it..

 If you have a .SDF disk image for either Lemmings or Oh No More
 Lemmings, the disk image is incomplete.  They are truncated at 80
 tracks, but the complete disk uses 82 tracks, and will stop working at
 one of the later levels that access the missing tracks.  I do remember
 hitting the limit in the original Lemmings game, but I don't know where
 the problem would be seen with the Oh No More Lemmings.  I did try
 truncating my disk image to 80 tracks to see if I could reproduce it,
 but level 3 (crazy) still started correctly.

 If you can describe the symptoms in more detail I'll see if I can
 reproduce it here.

 Si




 --
 James R Curry
 8...@itdoesntsuck.com




-- 
James R Curry
8...@itdoesntsuck.com


Re: Bug in game Oh No! More Lemmings

2014-08-18 Thread Colin Piggot

Thomas Harte wrote:
I didn’t own either of the Lemmings titles back in the day so this is 
quite

exciting news. But is there a trick to getting Oh No More Lemmings to
work? It doesn’t boot on its own and performing a disk swap from the
Lemmings title screen doesn’t seem to get me anywhere...



From the Oh No More Lemmings page on WoSAM:


In order the play the new levels, the player has to load the origianl 
Lemmings game, select “New Level” and enter the code “HNBVBVPN”. It will 
prompt for the “Data Disc” at which point you insert the “Oh No! More 
Lemmings” disc. The new game data will load - this includes adding one new 
difficulty level. The levels are now: Tame, Crazy, Wild, Wicked and Havoc


Colin
=
Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the SAM Coupé
1995-2014 - Celebrating 20 Years of developing for the SAM Coupé
Website: www.samcoupe.comTwitter: @QuazarSamCoupe




Re: Bug in game Oh No! More Lemmings

2014-08-17 Thread Colin Piggot

I think you're being ignored by the mailing list because of the
suspicion that you may be using an illegal copy of this game.
Some people don't have a problem with copying a 20+ year old game for
a dead system.  Some do.


That's not really the issue I think. Perhaps no one has seen the patch or 
can advise?


I myself have not heard of an Atom Lite installer for Lemmings, so can't 
comment on how it's written or if it can be adapted for the Trinity. Does it 
use B-DOS cleanly or is it coded specifically for the Atom Lite? Would the 
patch author allow it to be modified for Trinity?


The more software that can be easily patched to make use of B-DOS the better 
:) My full commercial games have standard B-DOS friendly installers and 
there has been a few patches printed in SAM Revival for various bits of 
software over the years with more to come.


Kind regards,

Colin
=
Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the SAM Coupé
1995-2014 - Celebrating 20 Years of developing for the SAM Coupé
Website: www.samcoupe.comTwitter: @QuazarSamCoupe 



Re: Bug in game Oh No! More Lemmings

2014-08-17 Thread Colin Piggot
I played this game and I found a bug in the level 3 (rating crazy), 
password NEYLEKNO.  Does it exist any fix and level codes for this game?

Solaris104


I don't recall an updated version of Oh No More Lemmings. From what I 
remember playing it years ago there are other bugs in the game too - in a 
lot of the levels where each ability starts at 20, one of them starts at 22.


The original Lemmings had an updated version, I remember getting it copied 
onto my original disk by Colin MacDonald at one of the 1994 shows in 
Gloucester. Bloody fantastic game!


Colin
=
Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the SAM Coupé
1995-2014 - Celebrating 20 Years of developing for the SAM Coupé
Website: www.samcoupe.comTwitter: @QuazarSamCoupe 



Re: Bug in game Oh No! More Lemmings

2014-08-17 Thread the wub
Really glad to hear that I was probably wrong,  I'd seen this before
and so leapt to a conclusion. :)


Re: Bug in game Oh No! More Lemmings

2014-08-17 Thread Simon Owen
On 11/08/2014 12:19, Solaris104 wrote:
 I played this game and I found a bug in the level 3 (rating crazy),
 password NEYLEKNO.  Does it exist any fix and level codes for this game?
 Solaris104
What is the bug you think you found?  I've just tried it here and that
level does start correctly for me, though I've not tried completing it..

If you have a .SDF disk image for either Lemmings or Oh No More
Lemmings, the disk image is incomplete.  They are truncated at 80
tracks, but the complete disk uses 82 tracks, and will stop working at
one of the later levels that access the missing tracks.  I do remember
hitting the limit in the original Lemmings game, but I don't know where
the problem would be seen with the Oh No More Lemmings.  I did try
truncating my disk image to 80 tracks to see if I could reproduce it,
but level 3 (crazy) still started correctly.

If you can describe the symptoms in more detail I'll see if I can
reproduce it here.

Si



Re: Bug in game Oh No! More Lemmings

2014-08-17 Thread Colin Piggot

the wub wrote:

Really glad to hear that I was probably wrong,  I'd seen this before
and so leapt to a conclusion. :)


Chris White had granted permission for Prince of Persia, Lemmings and Oh No 
More Lemmings and they are up on World of Sam for download.


http://www.worldofsam.org/node/403


From Fred 56, the code for Crazy - 4 is: MFMLFKID


Colin
=
Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the SAM Coupé
1995-2014 - Celebrating 20 Years of developing for the SAM Coupé
Website: www.samcoupe.comTwitter: @QuazarSamCoupe



Re: Bug in game Oh No! More Lemmings

2014-08-17 Thread the wub
So I couldn't have been more wrong.  My apologies to all.

Rob.


On 8/17/14, Colin Piggot qua...@clara.net wrote:
 the wub wrote:
 Really glad to hear that I was probably wrong,  I'd seen this before
 and so leapt to a conclusion. :)

 Chris White had granted permission for Prince of Persia, Lemmings and Oh No

 More Lemmings and they are up on World of Sam for download.

 http://www.worldofsam.org/node/403

 From Fred 56, the code for Crazy - 4 is: MFMLFKID

 Colin
 =
 Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the SAM Coupé
 1995-2014 - Celebrating 20 Years of developing for the SAM Coupé
 Website: www.samcoupe.comTwitter: @QuazarSamCoupe




Re: Bug in game Oh No! More Lemmings

2014-08-17 Thread Thomas Harte
I didn’t own either of the Lemmings titles back in the day so this is quite 
exciting news. But is there a trick to getting Oh No More Lemmings to work? It 
doesn’t boot on its own and performing a disk swap from the Lemmings title 
screen doesn’t seem to get me anywhere...

On 17 Aug 2014, at 10:43, Colin Piggot qua...@clara.net wrote:

 the wub wrote:
 Really glad to hear that I was probably wrong,  I'd seen this before
 and so leapt to a conclusion. :)
 
 Chris White had granted permission for Prince of Persia, Lemmings and Oh No 
 More Lemmings and they are up on World of Sam for download.
 
 http://www.worldofsam.org/node/403
 
 From Fred 56, the code for Crazy - 4 is: MFMLFKID
 
 Colin
 =
 Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the SAM Coupé
 1995-2014 - Celebrating 20 Years of developing for the SAM Coupé
 Website: www.samcoupe.comTwitter: @QuazarSamCoupe
 



Re: Bug in game Oh No! More Lemmings

2014-08-12 Thread the wub
I think you're being ignored by the mailing list because of the
suspicion that you may be using an illegal copy of this game.

Some people don't have a problem with copying a 20+ year old game for
a dead system.  Some do.

I wish I could help, I will be a Trinity owner at some point and will
be trying to do similar things as you, but I have no experience with
any of the problems you've mentioned.

Good luck!


On 8/11/14, Solaris104 solaris...@post.cz wrote:
 I played this game and I found a bug in the level 3 (rating crazy), password

 NEYLEKNO.  Does it exist any fix and level codes for this game?
 Solaris104