[Samba] RE: Support of Samba on RHEL4?

2006-09-21 Thread Alex de Vaal
Hello Gianluca,

The rpm -q --changelog package command was known to me, but the original
Samba packages doesn't contain a changelog.

As for the RHEL4 Samba packages; the changes are applied by RedHat
engineers, but if you are looking into the patches itself, they come mostly
from samba.org
How can otherwise statements of Jeremy Allison of samba.org be in patches of
RedHat... ;) and the only way to find out is to dig in the patches
themselves...

Regards,
Alex.


-Original Message-
From: Gianluca Cecchi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday 15 September 2006 15:42
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: samba@lists.samba.org
Subject: re: Support of Samba on RHEL4?

Alex,
I could not agree more with you.
BTW, perhaps you already know, but just in case:
If you want to see the patches applied to a package during its history, and
you don't need to dig into the sources themselves, you can query the
changelog for an rpm package without having to download
sources:

rpm -q --changelog package

for example  for my samba-3.0.10-1.4E.2
rpm -q --changelog samba
* Wed May 11 2005 Jay Fenlason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3.0.10-1.4E.2

- include the -bug157208 patch. to close
  bz#157208 CRM 511318 - smbfs dont respect uid and gid options when
mounting

* Fri Apr 29 2005 Jay Fenlason [EMAIL PROTECTED]

- include the -smbspool pattch from RHEL-3, to close
  bz#155350 SAMBA client working, printer configuration not working
- include the -winbindd_2k3sp1 patch to allow Samba to authenticate
  against a Windows 2003 SP1 machine.  This closes
  bz#154558 Winbind refuses to authenticate against Windows 2003 SP1

* Wed Mar 30 2005 Jay Fenlason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3.0.10-1.4E.1

- try the -gcc4 patch, to see if it solves problems with nmbd crashing.
  bz#150582 ? nmbd dies when windows client requests browse list

* Tue Jan 04 2005 Jay Fenlason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3.0.10-1.4E

- Upgrade to 3.0.10, to close bz#143983  This obsoletes
  the -CAN-2004-1154 patch.
- Include the -64bit patch from Nalin.  This closes bz#142873


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[Samba] RE: Support of Samba on RHEL4?

2006-09-21 Thread Alex de Vaal

The only reason I stepped into RHEL4 was the hardware support. I have a new
Dell PE2900 server with SAS drives and for RHL9 no drivers are available, so
I had to step forward to RHEL4 (which is obvious for me).
I have almost 100 Linux servers running with Red Hat Linux 9, you know, the
obsolete version. ;) All these servers are running flawlessly with Samba
3.0.14a from samba.org

I can't remember I ever signed a contract with you to support my servers :-)
However, my opinion is that I the support I receive from samba.org is (up
until now) sufficient for me; if I may quote the patch for W2k3 SP1, that
came out a few hours after the release of SP1.
What took more effort concerning the support of Samba, was the flaw of LDAP
failover with W2k3 DC's. I was banging my head regarding this issue and
entering a bug on bugzilla about this issue didn't help me. I was however
actively involved to tackle that issue and it was solved with a proposed
patch of my partner in crime.  So I was not only consuming support from
Samba but also contributing support to Samba. :-)

When RHEL5 is released I'll take a look which version of Samba they will use
as default and hopefully this will be one of the latest Samba versions. I
can change at any time the Samba packages from samba.org to the RH Samba
packages, which give me full support from RH then... :-)
Maybe I have to consider CENTOS instead of RHEL4, because I didn't need
RHEL4 for support from Red Hat, I only needed for hardware reasons. 

Regards,
Alex.
 

-Original Message-
From: Gerald (Jerry) Carter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday 18 September 2006 2:15
To: Alex de Vaal
Cc: samba@lists.samba.org
Subject: Re: Support of Samba on RHEL4?

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Alex de Vaal wrote:

 Is there any technical reason NOT to use the packages of samba.org on 
 RHEL4?

Nope.  No reason at all other than RH support.

 Regarding the above info I'd like to use the original samba packages 
 on RHEL4. If I only void support for Samba at Red Hat, so be it. I'm 
 convinced I'm better off with Samba support at samba.org...

For those with more complex setups that a single PDC or standalone server, I
would agree.  But I'm not signing a contract to support you servers :-)

cheers, jerry


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[Samba] Re: Support of Samba on RHEL4?

2006-09-20 Thread Gianluca Cecchi

On 9/20/06, Alex de Vaal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello Gianluca,

The rpm -q --changelog package command was known to me, but the original
Samba packages doesn't contain a changelog.


Strange if it comes from RH. Also the initial release for RH 4,
samba-3.0.10-1.4E.9.i386.rpm, contained a changelog in it...


As for the RHEL4 Samba packages; the changes are applied by RedHat
engineers, but if you are looking into the patches itself, they come mostly
from samba.org
How can otherwise statements of Jeremy Allison of samba.org be in patches of
RedHat... ;) and the only way to find out is to dig in the patches
themselves...

yes, but often RH engineers are also active main developers for the
corresponding opensource project and infact they have agreement so
that they can dedicate part of their time to the OS project. Probably
not for samba but this is true for many other ones.
In other situations clearly they apply official mantainers patches,
eventually dwelving in backporting them, if for some reason they don't
want/feel to upgrade the whole package itself.

Gianluca
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[Samba] Re: Support of Samba on RHEL4?

2006-09-18 Thread Gerald (Jerry) Carter
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Alex de Vaal wrote:

 Is there any technical reason NOT to use the packages 
 of samba.org on RHEL4?

Nope.  No reason at all other than RH support.

 Regarding the above info I'd like to use the 
 original samba packages on RHEL4. If I only void
 support for Samba at Red Hat, so be it. I'm convinced I'm
 better off with Samba support at samba.org...

For those with more complex setups that a single PDC or
standalone server, I would agree.  But I'm not signing
a contract to support you servers :-)






cheers, jerry
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[Samba] re: Support of Samba on RHEL4?

2006-09-15 Thread Gianluca Cecchi

Alex,
I could not agree more with you.
BTW, perhaps you already know, but just in case:
If you want to see the patches applied to a package during its
history, and you don't need to dig into the sources themselves, you
can query the changelog for an rpm package without having to download
sources:

rpm -q --changelog package

for example  for my samba-3.0.10-1.4E.2
rpm -q --changelog samba
* Wed May 11 2005 Jay Fenlason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3.0.10-1.4E.2

- include the -bug157208 patch. to close
 bz#157208 CRM 511318 - smbfs dont respect uid and gid options when mounting

* Fri Apr 29 2005 Jay Fenlason [EMAIL PROTECTED]

- include the -smbspool pattch from RHEL-3, to close
 bz#155350 SAMBA client working, printer configuration not working
- include the -winbindd_2k3sp1 patch to allow Samba to authenticate
 against a Windows 2003 SP1 machine.  This closes
 bz#154558 Winbind refuses to authenticate against Windows 2003 SP1

* Wed Mar 30 2005 Jay Fenlason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3.0.10-1.4E.1

- try the -gcc4 patch, to see if it solves problems with nmbd crashing.
 bz#150582 ? nmbd dies when windows client requests browse list

* Tue Jan 04 2005 Jay Fenlason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3.0.10-1.4E

- Upgrade to 3.0.10, to close bz#143983  This obsoletes
 the -CAN-2004-1154 patch.
- Include the -64bit patch from Nalin.  This closes bz#142873
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