Re: [Samba] Samba 4 Packages Available for Download

2013-06-10 Thread Björn JACKE
On 2013-05-23 at 23:12 +0200 Chris Fischer sent off:
 will it later be possible to use samba4 packages from the
 distribution when released, as distribution maintained packages
 mostly have less dependency problems or Sernet decides to stop
 providing binary packages.

SerNet provides binary packages much longer than your distributor does. You can
still get latest 3.6 samba packages for sles8 and rhel4 for example.


 Or is the internal structure a bit proprietary and the decision to
 use your packages not reversibel.

the package structure is logical, if you thing there something can be improved,
drop us a mail to sa...@sernet.de. It's also not true that installing the
packages is not reversibel. You can always uninstall the packages again and
install the distributor packages again in case that the package manager of your
distribution can not handle package conflict resolution right. Again, if you
have issues with that, feel free to contact us directly.

Cheers
Björn
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Re: [Samba] Samba 4 Packages Available for Download

2013-05-23 Thread Chris Fischer

Am 15.05.2013 11:02, schrieb Björn JACKE:

On 2013-05-14 at 13:51 -0300 Fernando Lozano sent off:

this is just a heads-up that SerNet does provide Samba 4 packages
(including AD DC package) now.

It was told on the fedora user's list that the kerberos
implementation used by Fedora, RHEL and CentOS conflicts with the
samba one, and so Fedora was providing samba4 binaries without AD DC
support. This was related to the use of FreeIPA by Fedora and RHEL.

So I wasn't expecting to see packages with AD DC support for RHEL
and CentOS so soon. Thanks a lot!

But how did you manage the kerberos problem? I see you repo provides
only samba4 packages, and do not replace any other library or daemin
from CentOS and RHEL.


our samba packages use the heimdal that is shipped with s4, we don't use the
system krb libs.



Or would the problem be present only on newer Fedora releases, and
not on RHEL6 (yet)? Would this be related to the fact servnet does
not provide samba4 packages for Fedora, or you simply don't package
anything for Fedora?


theoretically red hat could also ship a s4 ad dc with built in heimdal kdc but
afaik they are working on MIT integration.



Another question: if my CentOS server is using samba3 from sernet
repos, may I upgrade them using sernet samba4? Or should I uninstall
samba3 and do a clean install of samba4, redoing all configuration
manually?


yes, the packages are upgradable from previous sernet packages and also from
the distribution vendor packages.

Björn





Hi list, hi Björn,

will it later be possible to use samba4 packages from the distribution 
when released, as distribution maintained packages mostly have less 
dependency problems or Sernet decides to stop providing binary packages.
Or is the internal structure a bit proprietary and the decision to use 
your packages not reversibel.



Regards,

Chris


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Re: [Samba] Samba 4 Packages Available for Download

2013-05-15 Thread Björn JACKE
On 2013-05-14 at 13:51 -0300 Fernando Lozano sent off:
 this is just a heads-up that SerNet does provide Samba 4 packages
 (including AD DC package) now.
 It was told on the fedora user's list that the kerberos
 implementation used by Fedora, RHEL and CentOS conflicts with the
 samba one, and so Fedora was providing samba4 binaries without AD DC
 support. This was related to the use of FreeIPA by Fedora and RHEL.
 
 So I wasn't expecting to see packages with AD DC support for RHEL
 and CentOS so soon. Thanks a lot!
 
 But how did you manage the kerberos problem? I see you repo provides
 only samba4 packages, and do not replace any other library or daemin
 from CentOS and RHEL.

our samba packages use the heimdal that is shipped with s4, we don't use the
system krb libs.


 Or would the problem be present only on newer Fedora releases, and
 not on RHEL6 (yet)? Would this be related to the fact servnet does
 not provide samba4 packages for Fedora, or you simply don't package
 anything for Fedora?

theoretically red hat could also ship a s4 ad dc with built in heimdal kdc but
afaik they are working on MIT integration.


 Another question: if my CentOS server is using samba3 from sernet
 repos, may I upgrade them using sernet samba4? Or should I uninstall
 samba3 and do a clean install of samba4, redoing all configuration
 manually?

yes, the packages are upgradable from previous sernet packages and also from
the distribution vendor packages.

Björn


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Re: [Samba] Samba 4 Packages Available for Download

2013-05-15 Thread Miguel Medalha
There seems to be a problem with the sernet-samba-ad init script, at 
least on CentOS.


Samba fails to start. The log file shows the following:

[2013/05/15 20:48:37,  0] ../source4/smbd/server.c:369(binary_smbd_main)
  samba version 4.0.5-SerNet-RedHat-1.el6 started.
  Copyright Andrew Tridgell and the Samba Team 1992-2012
[2013/05/15 20:48:38,  0] ../source4/smbd/server.c:475(binary_smbd_main)
  samba: using 'standard' process model
[2013/05/15 20:48:38,  0] 
../file_server/file_server.c:47(file_server_smbd_done)

  file_server smbd daemon exited normally
[2013/05/15 20:48:38,  0] 
../source4/smbd/service_task.c:35(task_server_terminate)

  task_server_terminate: [smbd child process exited]
[2013/05/15 20:48:38,  0] ../source4/smbd/server.c:210(samba_terminate)
  samba_terminate: smbd child process exited

It looks like smbd starts and immediately exits.

Under /var/run/samba, a process file samba.pid remains but not a 
smbd.pid file.


Although samba is not running, the pidfile is left there. As a 
consequence, on further attempts to start samba using the script, it 
complains that a pidfile already exists.


When samba is called by other means (/usr/sbin/samba or alternative init 
scripts) it starts and runs correctly.


I am running 64bit CentOS 6.4.

Thank you for your work.

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Re: [Samba] Samba 4 Packages Available for Download

2013-05-15 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 5:02 AM, Björn JACKE b...@sernet.de wrote:
 On 2013-05-14 at 13:51 -0300 Fernando Lozano sent off:

 Another question: if my CentOS server is using samba3 from sernet
 repos, may I upgrade them using sernet samba4? Or should I uninstall
 samba3 and do a clean install of samba4, redoing all configuration
 manually?

 yes, the packages are upgradable from previous sernet packages and also from
 the distribution vendor packages.

It's not a trivial upgrade. I've been publishing SRPM components for
building  backports to RHEL 6, based on the Fedora release of Samba
4.0.5, at https://github.com/nkadel/samba-4.0.5-srpm/.  The
integration of full-blown domain controller features, for example, is
a build-time option that is disabled by default for the Fedora and my
SRPM, and there are significant incompatibilities between smb.conf
configuration options between Samba 3.x and Samba 4.x. Simply
upgrading in place is likely to create some real adventures in
configuration integration.

I'd recommend yanking a complete backup, especialliy of Samba 3.x
configurations, and especially using testparm -v to collect the
existing settings. Then do a clean re-installation and use testparm
-v to review the configuration changes.
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[Samba] Samba 4 Packages Available for Download

2013-05-14 Thread Karolin Seeger
Hi list,

this is just a heads-up that SerNet does provide Samba 4 packages
(including AD DC package) now. For more information, please see

  http://www.enterprisesamba.com/samba/

Cheers,
Karolin

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Re: [Samba] Samba 4 Packages Available for Download

2013-05-14 Thread Fernando Lozano

Hi there,

[Sorry for cross-posting, I hope I didn't violated any list policies]


this is just a heads-up that SerNet does provide Samba 4 packages
(including AD DC package) now.
It was told on the fedora user's list that the kerberos implementation 
used by Fedora, RHEL and CentOS conflicts with the samba one, and so 
Fedora was providing samba4 binaries without AD DC support. This was 
related to the use of FreeIPA by Fedora and RHEL.


So I wasn't expecting to see packages with AD DC support for RHEL and 
CentOS so soon. Thanks a lot!


But how did you manage the kerberos problem? I see you repo provides 
only samba4 packages, and do not replace any other library or daemin 
from CentOS and RHEL.


Or would the problem be present only on newer Fedora releases, and not 
on RHEL6 (yet)? Would this be related to the fact servnet does not 
provide samba4 packages for Fedora, or you simply don't package anything 
for Fedora?


Another question: if my CentOS server is using samba3 from sernet repos, 
may I upgrade them using sernet samba4? Or should I uninstall samba3 and 
do a clean install of samba4, redoing all configuration manually?



[]s, Fernando Lozano

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