Re: [Samba] Is Samba made for trash ?!?

2003-02-24 Thread Gerald (Jerry) Carter
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On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Michael Paarmann wrote:

> logon script = %U.bat
> logon path = \\server_office01\%U\profileNT
> logon home = \\server_office01\%U
> hide dot files = yes
> domain logons = YES
> domain master = YES

do not join a Samba box to a Windows domain and enable the previous two 
parameters.  You just asking for problems.

> >You are dealing with a different network protocol and different network
> >clients.
> 
> No, i'm only working with TCP/IP now. And yes, the clients work with W98
> or W2K.

I meant CIFS/SMB vs. Netware.  Not IPX vs TCP/IP.

> That's right. Spool32.exe or spoolss.exe die very often. I can see a
> read or a write socket error in the log list nearly at the same time.

Ahh...did you initialize the printer drivers installed on the Samba 
server?  If you are not supporting driver download to windows clients,
you might want to set "disable spoolss = yes"

> Hmm, do you really think that this can solve some of my problems? The 
> update from 2.2.3a to 2.2.5 wasn't very effective.

Samba is different from other projects such as apache.  Because we are 
constantly learning new things about how windows servers operate, it is
hightly recommended to use the latest stable release.

> 
> But is there a possibility to set Samba in a kind of "Compatibility Mode", 
> so that i can be sure the source of the problems isn't Samba ?

Samba constantly runs in "compatibility" mode as compared to a Windows 
server.  At least that is the intent.  We don't always get it right.


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RE: [Samba] Is Samba made for trash?!? Newp.

2003-02-24 Thread David Brodbeck


> -Original Message-
> From: Jean-Paul ARGUDO [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Many times a day, clients here when oppening a MS Word 97 
> document have 
> it in "READ ONLY" mode, but seems no reason fort that!!

Make very, very sure that you have no network problems.  I had a very
similar problem with AutoCAD that turned out to be a user who was on an
overloaded hub that was dropping lots of packets.  Apparently AutoCAD would
lock the files when he opened them, but the packet releasing the lock would
sometimes get lost in transit when he closed them again.

Also, if you're doing tricky things with permissions you can run into
problems.  When Word saves a file, it saves a new copy and deletes the old
one.  That means if your create mask has very restrictive permissions, the
file may not be read/write by other users anymore.
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Re: [Samba] Is Samba made for trash?!? Newp.

2003-02-21 Thread Jean-Paul ARGUDO
> By then, we discovered that if we disabled all oplocks,

we got no more corruption.  

I posted here weeks ago problems regarding Excel 97 file corruption. I 
finally disabled oplocks then.

But day passing, I had new problems with Word 97 :-/  (new posts here, 
mainly not answered but a tip on how to get clients at same time that 
servers... -NET command usage...):

Many times a day, clients here when oppening a MS Word 97 document have 
it in "READ ONLY" mode, but seems no reason fort that!!

I recently put oplocks *back* ON *but* with veto-ing excel files...
I hope this change could solve de pb..

Waiting for changes, I read again docs about oplocks (Samba HOWTO 
Collection -R-O-X-, O'Reilly and SAM'S books too)

Again and again but as Jeremy says thereafter, seems a problem *in* 
Word 97 ... Maybe I'll have to patch it  (it's original version, just 
patched with Euro Font Fix, nothing more, maybe the source of the 
problems? -Idem with Excel)

That Samba file server has been incredibly stable,
serving terabytes of data to almost 100 clients. 
We've seen no file corruption since that day.  You'll
find many admins who agree with me - Samba rocks!

Same opinion here. Samba works like a charm. We got 2.2.3a Debian woody 
stable release (damm when will they upgrade at debian?? ;-)).


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Re: [Samba] Is Samba made for trash?!? Newp.

2003-02-20 Thread jra
On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 08:40:18AM -0800, Chris de Vidal wrote:
> To answer the root question (people have been
> answering your symptoms), no, Samba is not trash.
> 
> Like you, we needed to migrate from NetWare.  We had a
> serious problem with an undocumented oplock issue
> (search marc.theaimsgroup.com, for "How samba let us
> down"): oplocks corrupt very large flat database files
> which are being accessed by multiple clients.  We
> almost dropped Samba for good and went to NT but
> couldn't get the replacement NT server up in time.  By
> then, we discovered that if we disabled all oplocks,
> we got no more corruption.  It's a good thing we got
> it working in Samba, because apparently this is also a
> problem in NT.

Indeed. Samba behaves identically to a Windows server w.r.t.
oplocks. People migrating from NetWare to Samba get irritated
by this, but often don't realise it's because of issues with
the Windows SMB *client*, not the SMB server. The Windows
NetWare client apparently was rather better written.

Jeremy.
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Re: [Samba] Is Samba made for trash ?!?

2003-02-20 Thread Michael Paarmann
Hi Jerry !




Do you have "security = domain"?  Did you join teh Samba box to the
domain using smbpasswd?  Please supply a copy of your smb.conf.
Send it to me off list if you want.


Ok, here it is:

[global]
workgroup = Office
os level = 128
server string = File- and Printserver
encrypt passwords = Yes
guest account = Nobody
map to guest = Bad User
security = DOMAIN
printing = LPRNG
printcap name = /etc/printcap
load printers = Yes
socket options = TCP_NODELAY
passwd program = /usr/bin/passwd %u
passwd chat = *New*password* %n\n *Re-enter*new*password* %n\n 
*Password*changed*
unix password sync = yes
local master = YES
character set = ISO8859-15
client code page = 850
mangle case = no
case sensitive = no
short preserve case = yes
preserve case = yes
time server = yes
admin users = domadmin
log file = /var/log/samba/samba_log.%U@%m
max log size = 500
log level = 0
logon script = %U.bat
logon path = \\server_office01\%U\profileNT
logon home = \\server_office01\%U
hide dot files = yes
domain logons = YES
domain master = YES
preferred master = True
local master = Yes
wins support = Yes
hosts allow = 192.168.0.
hosts deny = ALL EXCEPT 192.168.0.
kernel oplocks = NO
level2 oplocks = NO

[homes]
comment = Home Directories
read only = No
create mask = 0770
directory mask = 0770
browseable = No
oplocks = no

[netlogon]
comment = Network Logon Service
path = /home/samba/netlogon

[printers]
comment = Alle Drucker
path = /tmp
create mask = 0600
printable = Yes
browseable = No
printer admin = @ma
oplocks = no

[profiles]
comment = Network Profiles Service
path = /home/%U/profileNT
writeable = yes
create mode = 0770
directory mode = 0770
browseable = No
oplocks = NO

[interna]
path = /daten/interna
create mode = 0770
directory mode = 0770
force group = ma
valid users = @ma
comment = Interna
write list = @ma
oplocks = NO

and so on...

I've disabled all oplocks. With them the clients crashed much more often 
than without. But Samba is a lot slower.


You are dealing with a different network protocol and different network
clients.


No, i'm only working with TCP/IP now. And yes, the clients work with W98 or 
W2K.

  It is possible that a misformatted response could cause client
crashes (like explorer.exe or spoolss.exe), but you are going to have to
be more specific here.


That's right. Spool32.exe or spoolss.exe die very often. I can see a read 
or a write socket error in the log list nearly at the same time.


I will say that there are no known issues of clients crashing due to
the Samba release.

> Or are 35 workstations and 15 printers too much for one Samba server ?

No.  Samba on apprpriate hardware can handle much more than that :-)


Ok.


Upgrade to 2.2.7a.  You are running an older release.


Hmm, do you really think that this can solve some of my problems? The 
update from 2.2.3a to 2.2.5 wasn't very effective.

But is there a possibility to set Samba in a kind of "Compatibility Mode", 
so that i can be sure the source of the problems isn't Samba ?

Thanks in advance.

Michel








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Re: [Samba] Is Samba made for trash ?!?

2003-02-20 Thread Gerald (Jerry) Carter
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On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Michael Paarmann wrote:

> Yes. And that's what confuse me. Everyone from a Win98 or W2K
> workstation can log in and gets the login script and so on - but Samba
> generates this error message. Can i ignore this ? If yes, it's ok, but
> this messages fill up my logs.

Do you have "security = domain"?  Did you join teh Samba box to the 
domain using smbpasswd?  Please supply a copy of your smb.conf.
Send it to me off list if you want.

> In this case:Yes. And the clients crash much more often than before i
> replace the old server based on novell with Samba. The intenstion of
> replacing novell was to stabilize the network. I've checked the hardware
> once again and it's ok. But this messages appears whether the client
> dies or not!

You are dealing with a different network protocol and different network 
clients.  It is possible that a misformatted response could cause client 
crashes (like explorer.exe or spoolss.exe), but you are going to have to 
be more specific here.  

I will say that there are no known issues of clients crashing due to 
the Samba release.

> Or are 35 workstations and 15 printers too much for one Samba server ?

No.  Samba on apprpriate hardware can handle much more than that :-)

> 
> > > smbd[30829]: [2003/02/11 14:02:15, 0]
> > > rpc_server/srv_netlog.c:api_net_sam_logon(206)
> > > smbd[30829]:   api_net_sam_logon: Failed to marshall NET_R_SAM_LOGON.
> >
> >Please see the ml archives on this one.  99% chance you can ignore it.
> 
> Can i disable this warning ?

Upgrade to 2.2.7a.  You are running and older release.






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Re: [Samba] Is Samba made for trash ?!?

2003-02-19 Thread Michael Paarmann
Hi!

At 21:25 19.02.2003 -0600, you wrote:

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On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Michael Paarmann wrote:

> smbd[7809]: [2003/02/11 18:26:45, 0]
> smbd/password.c:domain_client_validate(1517)
> smbd[7809]:   domain_client_validate: could not fetch trust account
> password for domain OFFICE

Is office you domain?  Did you successfully join the domain?


Yes. And that's what confuse me. Everyone from a Win98 or W2K workstation 
can log in and gets the login script and so on - but Samba generates this 
error message.
Can i ignore this ? If yes, it's ok, but this messages fill up my logs.

>
> smbd[4902]: [2003/02/11 18:32:32, 0] lib/util_sock.c:read_data(436)
> smbd[4902]:   read_data: read failure for 4. Error = Connection reset 
by peer

The client dropped the socket.  Not Samba.

>
> smbd[3535]: [2003/02/11 18:33:28, 0] lib/util_sock.c:read_data(436)
> smbd[3535]:   read_data: read failure for 4. Error = No route to host

Did the client crash?

In this case:Yes. And the clients crash much more often than before i 
replace the old server based on novell with Samba. The intenstion of 
replacing novell was to stabilize the network. I've checked the hardware 
once again and it's ok.
But this messages appears whether the client dies or not!

Or are 35 workstations and 15 printers too much for one Samba server ?

> smbd[30829]: [2003/02/11 14:02:15, 0]
> rpc_server/srv_netlog.c:api_net_sam_logon(206)
> smbd[30829]:   api_net_sam_logon: Failed to marshall NET_R_SAM_LOGON.

Please see the ml archives on this one.  99% chance you can ignore it.


Can i disable this warning ?


>
> smbd[30829]: [2003/02/11 14:02:15, 0] 
rpc_server/srv_pipe.c:api_rpcTNP(1200)
> smbd[30829]:   api_rpcTNP: api_netlog_rpc: NET_SAMLOGON failed.
>
> smbd[3777]: [2002/12/23 12:03:43, 0] lib/util_sock.c:write_socket_data(500)
> smbd[3777]:   write_socket_data: write failure. Error = Broken pipe
>


cheers, jerry


thankx.

Michel

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Re: [Samba] Is Samba made for trash ?!?

2003-02-19 Thread Gerald (Jerry) Carter
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On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Michael Paarmann wrote:

> smbd[7809]: [2003/02/11 18:26:45, 0] 
> smbd/password.c:domain_client_validate(1517)
> smbd[7809]:   domain_client_validate: could not fetch trust account 
> password for domain OFFICE

Is office you domain?  Did you successfully join the domain?

> 
> smbd[4902]: [2003/02/11 18:32:32, 0] lib/util_sock.c:read_data(436)
> smbd[4902]:   read_data: read failure for 4. Error = Connection reset by peer

The client dropped the socket.  Not Samba.

> 
> smbd[3535]: [2003/02/11 18:33:28, 0] lib/util_sock.c:read_data(436)
> smbd[3535]:   read_data: read failure for 4. Error = No route to host

Did the client crash?

> smbd[30829]: [2003/02/11 14:02:15, 0] 
> rpc_server/srv_netlog.c:api_net_sam_logon(206)
> smbd[30829]:   api_net_sam_logon: Failed to marshall NET_R_SAM_LOGON.

Please see the ml archives on this one.  99% chance you can ignore it.

> 
> smbd[30829]: [2003/02/11 14:02:15, 0] rpc_server/srv_pipe.c:api_rpcTNP(1200)
> smbd[30829]:   api_rpcTNP: api_netlog_rpc: NET_SAMLOGON failed.
> 
> smbd[3777]: [2002/12/23 12:03:43, 0] lib/util_sock.c:write_socket_data(500)
> smbd[3777]:   write_socket_data: write failure. Error = Broken pipe
> 



cheers, jerry
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