Re: [scots-l] Re: unsubscribe
People were subscribing to all the lists, blasting them with spam, and then immediately signing off.. Also, people were signing onto the list and sending a who command to the list server, which allowed them to harvest email addresses which they would then sell to spammers. People started really bitching about the spam. Especially Jack Campin, who is very sensitive about his email address getting out. Spam sent to this list was a trivial problem compared with what I get from people who've mined this list or other web sources for addresses. The nastiest problem is the malignant little shit (who it is I don't know) who reposts these lists to the mail-archive site without any address munging despite me expressly forbidding it (in the body of messages he, she or it has already uploaded there). I'm shortly going to invalidate jc anyway, which will eliminate 200-300 spams a day in one fell swoop. (Also means I have to send out several thousand address-change notifications, i.e. at least a full day's work trawling through old mail to figure out who needs to be told; I presume that's exactly what the above-mentioned malicious little turd wants). Isn't majordomo flexible enough to allow automated user-driven subscription management without allowing a who command? who surely has few enough constructive uses that preventing spammers from using it matters more than making it available to legitimate users. (I doubt whether it's anywhere near as significant a source of address leaks as the web, though - if you're trying to spam everybody on a list, surely it's easier just to hit the list itself rather than extract addresses from it?) === http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/ === Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Re: unsubscribe
Isn't majordomo flexible enough to allow automated user-driven subscription management without allowing a who command? who surely has few enough constructive uses that preventing spammers from using it matters more than making it available to legitimate users. (I doubt whether it's anywhere near as significant a source of address leaks as the web, though - if you're trying to spam everybody on a list, surely it's easier just to hit the list itself rather than extract addresses from it?) I tried turning off the who command completely before, but people started emailing me asking me hey do you know if so-and-so is on the list? That became irritating.. From now on I am taking the path of least resistance with these lists.. Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Re: unsubscribe
I don't get it. How can you abuse Subscribe, unsubscribe...what's to ruin? CliffA --- Toby Rider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hopefully it won't get abused like it did a couple years ago. It only takes a couple of assholes to ruin things for everyone. Know what I mean? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Re: unsubscribe
People were subscribing to all the lists, blasting them with spam, and then immediately signing off.. Also, people were signing onto the list and sending a who command to the list server, which allowed them to harvest email addresses which they would then sell to spammers. People started really bitching about the spam. Especially Jack Campin, who is very sensitive about his email address getting out. I don't get it. How can you abuse Subscribe, unsubscribe...what's to ruin? CliffA --- Toby Rider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hopefully it won't get abused like it did a couple years ago. It only takes a couple of assholes to ruin things for everyone. Know what I mean? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Re: unsubscribe
Fer onie at dinna ken, ye send a weemail tae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wi who scots-l command in th bodie text an ye've suddenlie hundreds o weemail addies fer whitivver nefarious purposes... Haen commands open (naw closit) maks it easier tae get oan ir aff th leet, bit it maks it easier fir punters tae gie th admin an subscribers likesay muckle bother. Bit waur, it deprives me o th opportunitie tae abuise fowk tryin tae get aff...! People were subscribing to all the lists, blasting them with spam, and then immediately signing off.. Also, people were signing onto the list and sending a who command to the list server, which allowed them to harvest email addresses which they would then sell to spammers. People started really bitching about the spam. Especially Jack Campin, who is very sensitive about his email address getting out. I don't get it. How can you abuse Subscribe, unsubscribe...what's to ruin? CliffA --- Toby Rider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hopefully it won't get abused like it did a couple years ago. It only takes a couple of assholes to ruin things for everyone. Know what I mean? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[scots-l] Re: unsubscribe
The Rev Dr Ian Adkins wrote: Haw you, whit ur ye like! D'ye naw see th tag belaw at sais cleek as ye mean tae unsubscribe? It isn't as straightforward as you think to unsubscribe; it doesn't seem to be done automatically. -- Nigel Gatherer, Crieff, Scotland [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/gatherer/ Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Re: unsubscribe
It does now. I opened up sub/unsub requests about two weeks ago, because I was tired of people freaking out when it would take me a week to approve the requests. If you go to the page and click submit, you're on or you're off.. The Rev Dr Ian Adkins wrote: Haw you, whit ur ye like! D'ye naw see th tag belaw at sais cleek as ye mean tae unsubscribe? It isn't as straightforward as you think to unsubscribe; it doesn't seem to be done automatically. -- Nigel Gatherer, Crieff, Scotland [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/gatherer/ Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[scots-l] Re: unsubscribe
Nigel said: It isn't as straightforward as you think to unsubscribe; it doesn't seem to be done automatically. Toby Rider wrote: It does now. I stand corrected, Toby. -- Nigel Gatherer, Crieff, Scotland [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/gatherer/ Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
