Re: [scots-l] Here's tae us! Wha's like us?

2002-12-31 Thread sinclair
Nigel, et al,


MY interpretation, Here's to those who are like us is inclusive and
outward-looking.


Given my context, I have a hard time hearing that as anything but 
racist. I'll trust you that it's not intended as such.

Emma
(in the U.S.)

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Re: [scots-l] Here's tae us! Wha's like us?

2002-12-31 Thread David Kilpatrick


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Nigel, et al,


MY interpretation, Here's to those who are like us is inclusive and
outward-looking.



Given my context, I have a hard time hearing that as anything but 
racist. I'll trust you that it's not intended as such.

I think that would depend on the company. In our local context, the 
gathering where the
toast might be used might include Scottish Borderers, other brands of 
Scot, Northumbrian and Cumbrian borderers, other English, Irish, German, 
French and tonight we are assured of one Welsh Canadian (etc). So if you 
say 'us' in such a gathering you are already being pretty broad!

On Saturday night, a singer was being introduced in Galashiels, and was 
accidentally called 'Englishman' - followed by a hurried 'sorry, 
Yorkshireman!' which produced an immediate sort of murmur of 
amusement/approval from the audience.

My experience is that Scots are NOT racist any more than they have any 
other prejudice. I've said before that there is more traditional 
hostility and prejudice between adjacent villages or towns, than between 
Scots and English these days. Incidents in cities might prove otherwise, 
but there are so many fewer in Scotland than in England, and immigrant 
communities seem to integrate so much better in Scotland (whatever their 
origins). The moment the kids acquire a Scots accent, they become Scots.

We had a front page article in our local paper demanding that the 
government send asylum seekers to our region, instead of to Glasgow. We 
want them! We want their skills and diversity and we are short of 
everything from bricklayers to surgeons. Compare that with the attitude 
of many other parts of the country...

David

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