Re: [Scottish] Systems support role for ticketing software company in Edinburgh
Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ wrote: [snip] I would just like to point out that even if I was looking for another job in computing, there is *no way on earth* I would accept a job for £25k with unpaid overtime. Not a hope in hell. To be fair, it's unclear if it is unpaid or not. Hopefully the latter ... Will? :) -n ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Fwd: [Fsfe-uk] DFEY-NW :: January 18th :: BBC, Oxford Road, Manchester :: Digital Freedom in Education and Youth - North West
John¹ wrote: ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish Can you try sending again in plaintext? IIRC our list drops HTML MIME parts. -n ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Hosting recommendations
Philip Ward wrote: Use plusnet (www.plus.net) as your ISP and part of the package is their cgi server which gives you 50MB space to run your own perl and php scripts plus a mysql database. Or don't use a grotty subsidiary of BT (sorry Philip!), and instead spend US$10.95 a month (or less per month if you pay for 3mo, 1yr, 3yrs, etc up front) and use Dreamhost - www.dreamhost.com - and get 500GB disk space and 5TB/mo transfer - yes, 500 gigabytes and 5 terabytes respectively. These limits grow the longer you remain a customer (by 2GB of disk a week and 40GB of transfer a week). You also get ssh access, cgi, php, quick-installs for popular FOSS web apps, bandwidth throttling to stop a popular site overrunning your monthly limits, mysql DBs, DNS hosting, mail (POP and IMAP) hosting etc. You also get 50 GB of ftp or sftp/rssh backup space to do with as you please (the 500GB webspace is only for use for your hosted sites), ideal for rsyncing to/from. If you feel like being nice to the neuro, mail me off list and I can give you a referral link to give me a nice kickback in american beer tokens. -n ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] November meet
Alex Walker wrote: Paintballing in Clifton House. I'd happily tactically nuke Clifton House, so that sounds fun :) -n ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] November meet
Kyle Gordon wrote: William Anderson wrote: Alex Walker wrote: Paintballing in Clifton House. I'd happily tactically nuke Clifton House, so that sounds fun :) The builders are making a good enough job of ruining it anyway. Let me know before you do it though. Got a few folks I'd like to get out of there first :-) Collateral damage. If you wanna make an omelette, you gotta break some eggs. -n ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Talk
Ferdinand Francino wrote: anybody interested in Open Simulator (BSD Virtual World Server)? well, yeah, considering who I work for :) -n ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Talk
Ferdinand Francino wrote: This thursday as in 31st? That's cutting it a bit close but next time you despair, drop me a line, there's interesting stuff happening laters I can't make this thursday either (flying back from Brighton tomorrow night), maybe we could do this as a double talk at end of August? I have a talk I gave at LUG Radio Live the weekend before last about Second Life and Open Source (it lasts about 30-40 mins), so might be interesting to have the two talks on the one night. -n ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Talk
Kyle Gordon wrote: Is there one this month? You mean you're not doing one? :) -n ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] OT For sale 2 x T in the park camping tickets
Thomas McLean wrote: Hi all, 2 spare T in park full weekend camping tickets for sale. Face value 300 quid if anyone is interested. Tickets in hand let me know :) 50p and a packet of Rolos. -n ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] PPPoE vs PPPoA
Matt Causey wrote: [snip] This is when I learned that Tiscali does -not- support PPPoE, but rather PPPoA. O'course, my Cisco PIX only supports the more flexible PPPoE method. Grr. Is this the case with all ISPs here in the UK? Anyone have an old Cisco ATM device sitting around? :) Welcome to the UK, and Scotland in particular :) Sorry, pretty much all UK ADSL uses PPPoA, and the ATM part is for the actual backhaul out of the exchanges. You won't need any ATM CPE gear to connect. You'd probably be best off selling your PIX on ebay and getting something more useful, or swapping out the appropriate WIC on your PIX for an ADSL2+ WIC. *Or*, if you can, use an ADSL router than can bridge to an ethernet WIC on your PIX - a Thomson Speedtouch or Zyxel might be good for that, but YMMV; check first. -n ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] PPPoE vs PPPoA
Andrew Back wrote: [snip] That's what I thought, I.e. that you might only get PPPoE when an ISP has say taken advantage of LLU. But I have now been told by two different people that PPPoE can work, and a quick Google seems to reinforce this: The pages you cite are 3-5 years old! :) The whole thing about PPPoE being supported is ... wll, it *can* work, but PPPoA is the *supported* mode, so you should stick to that wherever possible. -n ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Re: News Letter April 08
Arron M Finnon wrote: It seems some where a long the line i lost to whole concept of what's going on in this thread. I'm not sure if I've offended, pissed off, or replied to people to their satisfaction. Hi Arron, I personally have grumbled about non-scotlug stuff being posted to the scotlug list, or non-scotlug stuff being added to the scotlug wiki, but mainly because I thought the consensus was that scotlug = glasgow's lug, and mailing us about what's going on 50 or 100 miles away seemed a bit daft within that context. I personally have advocated trying to transform scotlug into an umbrella lug, allowing *all* scottish lugs somewhere to chat, exchange ideas, and help each other, and that the traditional glasgow lug meetings become part of a more localised glasgow lug. However, on the two occasions where I've put this forward, it's had cold water poured on it, so I haven't aggressively pursued it. Anyway regardless, sans a list-wide complaint regarding your own posts, I'd keep posting; some definitely find them interesting :) -n ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Re: News Letter April 08
Kyle Gordon wrote: John Seago wrote: On Thursday 10 April 2008 Andrew Back [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The voluminous monolithic blocks of text approach I find a bit overbearing! As criticism it lost some of its impact when you top-posted the above, over a quote of the whole of the post to which it refered. Whilst at the same time ignoring this request,When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Scottish digest Top posting worked just fine in that context due to the reply not addressing any part of the post in particular. TOP POSTING NEVER WORKS FINE. A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion. Q. Why is top posting bad? -n ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Photo from one month ago...
Claudio Calvelli wrote: I was reminded at the meeting last night that I never posted anywhere a dodgy photo I've taken at the 10th anniversary meeting, so here it is... http://www.intercal.ukfsn.org/scotlug.jpg People who were there have already seen it on my camera's LCD. Bastard. -n ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Drupal and the society.......
Colin Speirs wrote: On 23/02/2008 18:21:51, Claudio Calvelli ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: William Anderson wrote: I think this has gone to the wrong list. Sorry to be a prick (it's my default state these days it seems), but why are we getting lots of messages to the scotlug list about dundee? I've been tempted to ask the same question but decided not to bother. I assume that people who want to know about Dundee have subscribed to that mailing list by now. I, for one, welcome our new Dundonian overlords. It doesn't bother me, though I'm hardly more than a lurker to this list, if Dundee, Aberdeen, Elgin or even Edinburgh post to this list. A few people have said something along these lines. So if ScotLUG is being transmogrified into an umbrella LUG covering all Scottish LUGs (something that I got shouted down for proposing years ago), what happens to ScotLUG in its present form, which is that it is the Glasgow LUG ... And personally, if I wanted to know what's going on in edlug or dundee lug, or hantslug, i'd subscribe to their lists. Just my 2p. -n ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Drupal and the society.......
Arron M Finnon wrote: As some of you know we have had a web site for a few months now. However in recent weeks there has been an effort behind the scenes for a complete overhaul, which will hail more features for it users. I think this has gone to the wrong list. Sorry to be a prick (it's my default state these days it seems), but why are we getting lots of messages to the scotlug list about dundee? -n ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] October Meeting
Kenny Duffus wrote: This months meeting will be straight to the pub as we have no talk planned. For more details see: http://www.scotlug.org.uk/wiki/Meetings I know there was a link in the email, but a simple reminder of the date would have helped focus my attention :) -n ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Film, Pizza and Booze (Fri 12th 6:30pm Film Start)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, As I'm sure most of you have heard on IRC, I'm hosting a film, food and booze sess. at my place on Friday. I'll be home from work at 5:45pm (ish) and I'm planning to start rolling the film at 6:30pm, so feel free to turn up somewhen between those times. Which film? :) -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Opinion Wanted - Aberdeen Linux Community
Marcel Hecko wrote: Hi all, I would like to announce that we have given away 30 refurbished PCs with Ubuntu to the people in Middlefield area in Aberdeen for free to use with free Internet access. This project is partly funded by Aberdeen City Council to bridge digital divine and tackle digital inclusion issues. I would really like to know how big you you recognize our Linux community - are there any more projects like this one in Scotland or do you know about any other bigger community of people using Linux as their primary OS? Please mind that none of these people have used Linux before and so far they are perfectly satisfied with the service. Is it possible that this might be the biggest Linux community in Scotland, maybe even in Britain? I don't understand the question. Giving away 30 Ubuntu-laden machines, while excellent and laudable, is a drop in the ocean of Aberdeen's 200,000 population. Surely the best way to gauge how popular Linux is in an area (on a strictly superficial basis) is to visit a LUG? No real metrics on this sort of thing are being collected as far as I know, so it's a very intangible thing to ask how big a Linux community is in a specific area. There are more than 30 people who attend ScotLUG, so there's a bigger community right there ;) -n ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] How nerdy are you?
Colin McKinnon wrote: This may amuse. http://www.nerdtests.com/ft_nq.php I appear to be a supreme nerd with a score of 92. I still consider myself geek rather than nerd; bloody nerds with their pocket protectors! (I'm not saying what I scored). Spill. -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] A chance to evangelise?
J.R. Seago wrote: last week I got this: On 20/07/07, Mister Antony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Mr Seago, Please accept our apologies for not responding to your enquiry sooner. Our IT system crashed just over a week ago we have just re-established our outstanding messages. So that we can send you the necessary product information could you please let us know whether it is a raincape or wool Inverness Cape which most interest you . With best regards Antony M Mistofsky MISTER ANTONY ( Inverness Capes ) Glasgow G77 5AT, Scotland, UK Tel/fax +441416397309 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.misterantony.com www.invernesscapes.com CELEBRATING OUR 25th YEAR ! To which I replied: Thank you for your efforts, and may I recommend that you contact an IT consultant and investigate the possibility of a system based on either GNU/Linux or BSD. Ask here for advice on free software systems. http://www.scottish.lug.org.uk/wiki/Welcome That actually comes off to me as rather snooty. How do you know they don't run Linux already? Why didn't you explain quickly what free software is and why it could be useful to them? Measure twice, cut once. -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Eben Moglen (GPL author) lecture Edinburgh, 26th June
Dan Shearer wrote: On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 09:53:13PM +0100, William Anderson wrote: Eben Moglen, the lawyer behind the GPL family of licenses = incorrect For nearly 15 years, if you were a serious GPL violater the FSF counsel who would carry out the legal moves against you was Eben Moglen. That's what behind means. When RMS asked Eben to act for him in connection with his (RMS') GPL2 it was because there was no lawyer behind the GPL until Eben came along. Without enforcement the GPL wouldn't be much use to us. That doesn't mean he was behind it :) The police are not behind they law, since they don't make policy or legislation, they simply enforce it. Whatever -- let's lighten up, come along and ask him yourself! I'm clearly not a primary source, maybe I got it wrong! It's not about lightening up, when you attribute authorship of the GPL to Moglen and away from rms - and as much as i can't stand rms - it's unfair and it demands correction. Sorry if you see that as unenlightened :) -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Eben Moglen (GPL author) lecture Edinburgh, 26th June
Dan Shearer wrote: This is a heads-up: Eben Moglen, the lawyer behind the GPL family of licenses, [snip] what? RMS wrote GPLs v1 and 2 long before Moglen joined the FSF. -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Eben Moglen (GPL author) lecture Edinburgh, 26th June
Dan Shearer wrote: On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 07:07:55AM +0100, William Anderson wrote: Dan Shearer wrote: This is a heads-up: Eben Moglen, the lawyer behind the GPL family of licenses, [snip] what? RMS wrote GPLs v1 and 2 long before Moglen joined the FSF. What I wrote is correct. Eben Moglen (GPL author) = incorrect Eben Moglen, the lawyer behind the GPL family of licenses = incorrect Were you to state that Eben is one of the co-authors of GPLv3, I'd agree. -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] [Fwd: [ScotLUG Info] Request for national info.]
Kyle Gordon wrote: Some questions from Denmark, if anyone is able to provide a an answer or three... Kyle Do we have to guess what the questions are? -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Looking for a job in Glasgow with an open source friendly firm
Nick Burch wrote: Hi All I hope this sort of email is allowed on the list. I'm looking to move up to Glasgow in the late summer. I was wondering if anyone knew of any open source friendly firms looking to hire a developer / sysadmin on that sort of timescale? http://www.s1jobs.com/ :) -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] April Scotlug
Dan Shearer wrote: Gavin Henry just posted: http://www.edlug.org.uk/archive/Apr2007/msg7.html i Various people replied saying this would be good, yeah let's do it etc. Claudio replied saying it's Scotlug night. So... what about having the April Scotlug over with Howard Chu, chief architect of OpenLDAP? over == in glasgow for a regular meeting, yes? -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] It's a girl!
babaguy wrote:
Loving Welcome to Mira - Warm and joyous thoughts and feelings for / to Mr
and Mrs MrBen...Wonderful news ! - babaguy--- On Sun 04/01, Kyle Gordon lt;
[EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; wrote:From: Kyle Gordon [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 22:09:53 +0100Subject: [Scottish] It's a
girl!Congratulations to Heather and Ben (aka mrben) on the birth of their
baby girl Mira Hope Thorp, who was born today at 19:23. Photos will be online
soon apparently :-)Kyle-- Kyle [EMAIL
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Congrats to {mr|mrs}ben :) babaguy, dude, plain text, remember? :)
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Re: [Scottish] Planet ScotLUG
Andrew Barber wrote:
Hey all,
I have been playing/theme-ing with Planet today out of boredom, and have
made a theme for the ScotLUG planet, should you want it.
You can see the theme at http://andrewbarber.homelinux.org/planet/scotlug/
looks like a complete rip of planet.{gnome.org|ubuntu.com}, but in the words
of borat, very nice :)
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Re: [Scottish] Kubuntu help.....?
babaguy wrote: Dear SLUG, I have installed the KUBUNTU recommended by the Scribbler. I now cannot see how to install any programmes not included in the pre-selected lists (KDE, GNOME, ANY SUITE)in Adept Package Manager/Updates. congratulations to everyone who offered advice, saying switch distros. You've just made the problem worse. Give yourselves a pat on the back while mrben and I sit back and look smug. -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] New Thread: I apologise.....
William Anderson wrote: babaguy wrote: Dear Alan, and All,Thank you for your encouraging and helpful replies earlier today, which I am trying to follow and use to track down needed information. SORRY to have annoyed you and other SLUGgers - It's really not brain-dump, simply another approach to communication and learning / thinking / processing information - more language- and word-based than computer- or mathematical - concept-based. I take time out of my day, usually a lunch break or coffee break, to read mailing lists such as the ScotLUG list. If I have to spend longer than I have to to decipher an e-mail, I'll be less inclined to compose a reply, much less help out. I've just realised something after Paul sent me an email direct, as opposed to the list ... the myway email interface munges the plain text section of the email something fierce, while the html rich text part looks just peachy (apart from the fact it's html). This is a key issue here, as the list by default strips attachments and html mime parts from inbound messages. Example (I hope Paul doesn't mind me reproducing bits here!), from the HTML part: -- Dear William, Thanks for your e-mail - In the end I burned one more ISO CD and that one has worked! The Kubuntu is installed. -- ... and from the plain text: -- Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mail.well.com id l28GDL5D014691 =0D Dear William,Thanks for your e-mail - In the end I burned one more ISO CD= and that one has worked! The Kubuntu is installed.I tried Suse a few yea= -- no wonder Paul's messages look completely hosed when they reach the list! I'm not trying to forgive HTML email, or request that the list behaviour be changed, but until Paul can hopefully find himself a better mail client than the myway website, let's cut him a little slack ;) -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Kubuntu Install help.....?
babaguy wrote:
[snip]
I hate to be a killjoy, but why are you switching from Ubuntu (GNOME) to
Kubuntu (KDE)? This will completely change your user experience once the OS
is installed.
The kubuntu logo came up and a back-and-forth bar, but no info about the
progress of the install -
... because it wasn't installing ... New {U|Ku|Xu}buntu install CDs double
up as live CDs, so they will boot the full OS before you can install it.
Eventually it has given me a command line, and I have no idea what it wants
me to do...
The fact that you're not getting a graphical desktop sounds like your
graphics card isn't being detected, or you've somehow been dumped into text
mode - try pressing ALT+F7 or ALT+F8 when it's fully booted to switch from
text consoles to graphics console.
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Re: [Scottish] FAO
babaguy wrote: Thanks J.R. ! I *think* the system has updated itself to Edgy [snip] It could only have done that if you'd commanded it to do so, after changing the repository settings in the update manager, synaptic or /etc/apt/sources.list - it definitely won't have done that magically :) -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Linux stuff...
J.R. Seago wrote: On Sunday 25 February 2007 12:15, babaguy[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Further to to my previous reply, should you decide to re-install a different distribution, as I suggested, have a try with one that most of the people on the lists you're using use, that way you'll find a broad spectrum of experience and patience. I suspect a lot of people here are using Ubuntu ... -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: moRe: [Scottish] time spent on Linux stuff...
babaguy wrote: Dear All, Well, I am now to the point where I realise that Linux is really only ever going to be a hobby, as it just seems to require so much time to simply make up its mind to *function*...(or for me to read its mind and discover how to make it do stuff..!)I have Ubuntu (as I'm sure you know by now...5.10) - To be fair, you're using an old version of Ubuntu - 5.10 is well over a year old now, and the best version you could use in terms of ease of use is 6.10. If it's not too much hassle, maybe an upgrade - or better yet a reinstall - to the latest version could help you make more sense out of a popular Linux distro? Also, could you please stop changing the subject line (i.e. Re: to moRe:), as whatever mailer you're using doesn't respect the References: header, and changing the subject line screws with list threading something fierce :) Not being nasty, just asking a favour! ;) -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: moRe: [Scottish] time spent on Linux stuff...
Ben Thorp wrote: [snip] Install instructions for Opera are online at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser including instructions for 5.10 The Ubuntu is very complete - a quick search for ubuntu opera on Google led me to this page within seconds. Thus the axiom Google is your friend. [snip] 3. Again - as mentioned above - there is a huge amount of easily searchable documentation available for Ubuntu. The majority of queries from new users have been properly documented. If you're having problems with something, don't struggle with it for hours - a couple of minutes searching will usually find you the answer and save you the time. Absolutely agree with all of the above. The Ubuntu Help wiki is a fantastic resource; Canonical staff and Ubuntu volunteers have poured many an hour of their time into it, and it shows by the quality of the docs. -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Linux stuff...
Kyle Gordon wrote: [snip] List admin also suggests that people, neuro included, should not write emails that look like spam. :-) Yer arse it looked like spam ... X-lug.org.uk-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-lug.org.uk-Spam-Report: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 autolearn=ham version=3.0.3; pts rule name description -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.] Scanned on host mail-in-01.lug.org.uk on Sat, 24 Feb 2007 04:55:44 +. If you have any query please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on yamato.zensoft.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.3 -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Linux Anti-Virus etc.....?
babaguy wrote: Dear All, Some of you might be happy to know I am at last [snip] Jings, Paul, but your emails are bloody hard to read :) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache search anti-virus clamsmtp - virus-scanning SMTP proxy havp - HTTP Anti Virus Proxy mailscanner - email virus scanner and spam tagger picalib - Set of PICA helper scripts and configuration files clamav - antivirus scanner for Unix clamav-base - base package for clamav, an anti-virus utility for Unix clamav-daemon - antivirus scanner daemon clamav-docs - documentation package for clamav, an anti-virus utility for Unix clamav-freshclam - downloads clamav virus databases from the Internet clamav-milter - antivirus scanner for sendmail clamav-testfiles - use these files to test that your Antivirus program works libclamav-dev - clam Antivirus library development files libclamav1 - virus scanner library ClamAV - www.clamav.org - is probably one of the best known anti-virus solutions on Linux. Plenty of others such as Panda, F-PROT, Vexira, Kaspersky, and AVG (7.1, and in RPM form, but the alien package is quite good at converting RPMs to debs for install on Debian/Ubuntu) can be found simply by googling for linux anti-virus - 33.4m search results in all, allegedly! I personally don't run any anti-virus on my main server or any of my other linux kit, with the caveat that I run clamav on my inbound email server. I run Symantec 10 on my windows xp desktop to make sure nothing squeaks through on that side. -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Linux stuff...
Colin McKinnon wrote: On Saturday 24 February 2007 13:37, babaguy wrote: I don't know if my last e-mail got through or not, It got here. If I could be bothered reading the headers I'd work out when - let me know if its a big problem. lazy get ;) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=xinit.lug.org.uk) by xinit.lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 1HKhrO-00075A-00 ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 21:21:46 + Received: from mail-in-01.lug.org.uk ([217.147.93.69]) by xinit.lug.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 1HKEXm-0003aZ-00 for scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 14:03:34 + I replied to Paul's first message, but it's been caught in the list spam filters ... paging list admin, list admin to the mailman interface please. -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Re: BBC/DRM
Robert Johnston wrote: [bbc snippage] Regarding ownership -- yes, we do own the BBC, just as we own the NHS. Who else would own it? This is s off-topic for this list, but ... the BBC owns itself; it's a private company[1] operating under Royal Charter[2]. While it may intend to operate in the best interest of Her Majesty's Subjects, it is Her Majesty's Government who effectively control the BBC, and it is the BBC who owns itself, not us plebs in the Great British Public. While we have a measure of say in how the BBC operates, via Parliament and the BBC Trust, we certainly do not own the BBC, as opposed to fully public bodies such as the NHS. [1] hence British Broadcasting *Corporation*, and indeed it was set up as the British Broadcasting Company in 1922 by a consortium including Marcony, ATT, Hotpoint and GE as members, before being reincorporated under Royal Charter, and licensed by the GPO to transmit wireless radio signals, in 1927. [2] http://tinyurl.com/y7gr8p -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Talk tonight
Dan Shearer wrote: Virtualisation: The Latter Days of Steam or, why Xen only solves only one, short-term problem and, virtualisation principles in the different kinds of free software solutions. I'd love to be there but can't make it tonight; sounds like it'll be a great talk! -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Re:Ampant Update!
Gordon JC Pearce wrote: babaguy wrote: Spoke today to my pal Tam who uses Mandriva and who gave me some tips re a programme Dis Unwrapper (?) (i think). and also my Dear Sweetheart dedicated some of her precious day to scouring Linux forums and e-mailing me the answers/opinions etc. - Just get an ethernet card. They're about a fiver. How much is your time worth? Agreed, it's also less hassle to upgrade should you change your broadband method in the future, i.e. cable-xDSL, xDSL-cable, ADSL1-ADSL2+, etc. Also makes it easier to sort out networking with other machines and/or devices in the future. -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Gaelic Spellchecker
J.R. Seago wrote: On Monday 12 February 2007 23:51, Chris Nicolson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scottish Gaelic Total speakers: 58,652 Welsh Total speakers: 700,000 From their respective wikipedia pages. So we're doing well for the relative number of speakers! That makes matters even worse! Welsh is spoken by 2,903,085/700,000 one in four+of the population of Wales, Gaelic by 5,062,011/58,652 one in 86 87 of the population of Scotland, even if one discounts the proportion of Scotland where Gaelic was not spoken, then the sum of money per head being spent to preserve a European language/culture, (which was what I understood the EU to be seeking to do), should at least be greater for Scotland. I don't understand this argument. A 1:4 Welsh:English speaking ratio surely deserves more attention than a 1:86 Scots Gaelic:English ratio? At a per-head rate, the WLB gets ~ £19, given the figures you and others have quoted (£13.7m/0.7m people). The GLB gets ~ £75 (4.409m/0.058m) per head! Where's the problem here? -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: moRe: [Scottish] Broadband Question...
Gordon JC Pearce wrote: William Anderson wrote: Gordon JC Pearce wrote: babaguy wrote: If anyone else can PLEASE (I really MEAN these capitals, I *would* like to be able to use my Linux to actually *do* something) help me with configuring a modem (either BT VOYAGER ADSL or THOMSON Speed Touch 330) They're shit. Throw them away. Seriously. They barely work in Windows, and the manufacturers refuse to give out any information on how to make them work in Linux. Get rid, and buy an ADSL router. They're relatively cheap, especially once you consider the value of your time wasted in trying to get a broken-by-design sack of cack working against its will. IME Speedtouch 330s work Just Fine under Ubuntu after following the docs In as far as they ever work. I've never seen one that actually worked properly. Praps you found a bad batch? I've yet to see a Speedtouch that *didn't* work once you get your head round the firmware bit, and this is going back years too when we had loads of USB modems at SmoothWall for testing. Speedtouchen work, so perhaps you're just shit at configuring them? /troll :))) And Gordon, why not throw away your PDP? It's shit, seriously. :) Ah, now here we come to a different issue. The PDP11 is a toy, basically. It works extremely well, and very reliably. It doesn't entirely fail to get me connected to the Internet, and it wasn't designed by a Chinese primary-school child to be built for a parts cost of less than $1. The difference here is that it actually does what it's supposed to do. As a Speedtouch 330 also does. -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: moRe: [Scottish] Broadband Question...
Gordon JC Pearce wrote: babaguy wrote: If anyone else can PLEASE (I really MEAN these capitals, I *would* like to be able to use my Linux to actually *do* something) help me with configuring a modem (either BT VOYAGER ADSL or THOMSON Speed Touch 330) They're shit. Throw them away. Seriously. They barely work in Windows, and the manufacturers refuse to give out any information on how to make them work in Linux. Get rid, and buy an ADSL router. They're relatively cheap, especially once you consider the value of your time wasted in trying to get a broken-by-design sack of cack working against its will. IME Speedtouch 330s work Just Fine under Ubuntu after following the docs on the Ubuntu wiki. I agree that a router makes more sense, but sometimes you've just got to go with the kit you've got, especially if you're on a budget. If you *can* spare the cash tho, I'd recommend a Zyxel 660R Compact - they're about 20-25 quid, single Ethernet presentation, plug that into your PC or LAN switch and you're sorted. They're nails. And Gordon, why not throw away your PDP? It's shit, seriously. :) -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Linux and video editing
simon yuill wrote: Hi Bill, For editing video there is Kino (http://www.kinodv.org/) and Cinelerra (http://cvs.cinelerra.org/about.php). For still image work (ie Photoshoppy stuff) there is GIMP (http://www.gimp.org) and a variant of GIMP called Cinepaint that is specifically geared towards moving image work (http://www.cinepaint.org/). It should be noted that while these are excellent apps, their workflow is different from Premier and Photoshop. GIMPshop tries to redress that by putting Photoshop-style menus and toolbars onto The GIMP to try and help Photoshop users move across. I don't think there's anything similar for Premier. I'd definitely try these apps (GIMP and Kino / Cinelerra) on a Live CD if possible to make sure you feel you can use them in place of the Adobe apps. If you can, great, get rid of that Windows box :) If you can't, look into dual-booting - Ubuntu makes this process pretty painless now, even for Win2K / XP Pro users with NTFS partitions. -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Free monitor
Kyle Gordon wrote: Is anyone interested in a free 21 Sony G500 monitor? It was great, and is a lovely flat screen CRT. http://lodge.glasgownet.com/~bagpuss/G500/ Admit it, you just wanted to show off your ORA book collection :) -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Which distro
Alistair J. Ross wrote: [snip] It sounds like you haven't used a recent GNOME desktop, perhaps you should give a recent Ubuntu or Fedora Core a try. Admittedly no, I have given up on gnome for the forseeable. I last used it properly with Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary). I might have used it for a while on 5.10 but it was around then when I switched. You should therefore give FC6 or Ubuntu Edgy a try - especially Edgy, since the live CD will let you piss about without hosing your Kubuntu setup. -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Which distro
Alistair J Ross wrote: I have Gnome installed on my Kubuntu system for 'just in case' use. I started it up once to debug a sound problem I was having (not KDE related!), and got horrified and immediately closed it down. It was all orangey / brown. Euch! You say that as though it's not customisable. For shame. -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Which distro
Alistair J. Ross wrote: Kubuntu - without a doubt, the best Linux distro there is. Plain Ubuntu is all very well, but Gnome is just nasty and there is no getting away from it. Ubuntu is exceptional - can you elaborate on why Gnome is nasty? I personally prefer Gnome over KDE, so would be interested to hear your comments. -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] processors
Gordon JC Pearce wrote: Claudio Calvelli wrote: [snip] Any use for a PDP-11/73? I haven't switched it on in years but it does work. What's in it? Oh god, you woke the beast ... ;) -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] X-server issue
Joseph Kerr wrote: Hi Kyle, I hope this is what you want. Thanks. Joseph, the scotlug list software automatically strips out attachments when they are posted to the list. Send your attachments to Kyle directly, or stick them on a website so others can grab them if you want. -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] X-server issue
Kyle Gordon wrote: On Tuesday 19 September 2006 15:01, William Anderson wrote: Joseph Kerr wrote: Hi Kyle, I hope this is what you want. Thanks. Joseph, the scotlug list software automatically strips out attachments when they are posted to the list. Send your attachments to Kyle directly, or stick them on a website so others can grab them if you want. Might I add that Josephs mail was held in the moderation queue as it exceeded the size limit. I approved it, with attachment intact. Somewhere further on, mailman decided to magically remove the attachment without my intervention or knowledge. IIRC MIME munging happens in mailman on egress after moderation dependent on list configuration, hence why you saw the attachment. -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Ubuntu Dapper Server CDs
Kevin McDermott wrote: Hi Joe, I recently ordered the Ubuntu Dapper and Kubuntu Dapper cds from the web site. Unfortunately they will not ship the server cds which is most annoying. I want to set up a web server on my laptop so I can try some development. I do not have a broadband connection. Is there anyone out there that has the Ubuntu Dapper server CD that can burn me a copy? I live in the Clydebank area. Thanks. You don't need the Server to do this, you can install Apache etc on the desktop installation, and you'd probably find the Desktop edition easier to install. Once you get the Desktop edition, you will be able to install Apache via the Synaptic package manager. Eww :) The server edition does make things easier from a pure server perspective, no X installed, etc., but if you're installing on a laptop, would definitely be best to install the desktop version. You can init 3 in a pinch to stop gdm loading if you want to save memory. -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Ubuntu Dapper Server CDs
William Anderson wrote: Joseph Kerr wrote: Hi, What is the when, where and time is this meeting? Last Thursday of the month, next one is this coming Thursday, the 24th, see http://www.scotlug.org.uk/wiki/Meetings for more details. Oops, I suck, it's *next* Thursday, the 31st. -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] LUGRadio Live 2006
Ben Thorp wrote: Some of you may be listeners to LUGRadio (http://www.lugradio.org) and some of you may have heard us mention the LUGRadio Live conference (http://www.lugradio.org/live) that is taking place this year on the 22nd and 23rd July in Wolverhampton. Given that this months meeting is the last before the event, I suspect there will be a certain amount of travel negotiations taking place - there are at least 2, if not 3 cars going down for the weekend (leaving Friday, returning Monday). Lo all, at the moment there are two cars going down to Wolverhampton for LUGRadio Live later this month. ScotLUG members going are: mrben's car: mrben (driving) heather (mrsben) seaLne pickle neuro's car: neuro (driving) félim neil_ empty seat Departing ~ 10:00 Friday 21st July, returning ~ afternoon/evening Monday 24th July. We still nominally have one seat free, tho it will be useful space to store luggage or kit, so it would be great to get some sort of confirmation before the end of next week if anyone else would like to go along with us and would like a lift so we can plan just how much gear we can take with us. Others wishing to go with a car and who can offer lifts to others would of course be cool too :) If you'd still like to go, please check out the website at lugradio.org/live first and follow the accomodation links - you'd best be phoning for hotel rooms first before making any travel plans in case there are no cheap rooms left. Last year was a blast as mrben, pickle, riddell and myself will attest to :) -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Re: Apache weirdness
John Gordon Ollason wrote: Further to my last posting. It was a confusion of paths. One line modified in the script and everything works as it ought to. Thanks again for all the input which focussed my mind. If you are interested in working site the url is http://ccgi.houseofdeer.plus.net/connexion It was designed to be self-organising. and non-accessible? :) -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] [Fwd: FW: Ted Nelson speaking this Monday[Scanned]]
Simon Yuill wrote: -- Forwarded Message From: Stephen Woodruff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 11:00:44 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Conversation: Ted Nelson speaking this Monday[Scanned] Subject: Ted Nelson speaking this Monday[Scanned] I thought you might be interested to know that Ted Nelson is speaking in Glasgow University this Monday at 4pm. He is little known outside the computing world, but there he is revered as one of the first great visionaries. (and I dropped the course I was studying to switch to computing science when I read his book...) If anyone in the computing field doesn't know who Ted Nelson is, they should be re-educated immediately :) Computer Lib is a great, great book to read. Is this lecture open to non-staff/-students? -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Time flies - January's meeting and other stories
Billy wrote: [snip] I'll put in some money if we can mock his beard. ;-) jono beard mockage is kinda a given :) -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Time flies - January's meeting and other stories
Ben Thorp wrote: [snip] As long as there was reasonable response from the list, then my intention would be to advertise it outwith the list as a 'special' meeting, rather than a 'regular' meeting, and throw the doors open to, say EdLUG, and any other people we can drag along. My original intention was to make the fee nominal (£2-£3), and, should the need arise, I am willing fund any shortfall myself. Our usual attendance on a normal meeting is between 10 and 20 people, which would equate to a minimal of £20 or a maximum of £60. However, I think that there would be an opportunity here to interest a lot more people, or at least to encourage some of the 'lurkers' on the mailing list to make a special trip for the special meeting. I personally think too much hay is being made of this. I'll happily chuck in a tenner for this. If a few other generous ScotLUGgers do the same, the question of charging at the door becomes moot. Also, for a theoretical arrival of 10:00 on Sat 25th March and 08:45 departure on Sun 26th March, Flybe can deliver a return fare of £56.14 (cost good as of a minute ago). Couple that with perhaps someone putting Jono up for the night helps keep the costs down further. That would be just 6 people stumping up a tenner to deliver ScotLUG a special event speaker (possibly something to co-incide with an install day or other event?). -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Time flies - January's meeting and other stories
Kyle Gordon wrote: On Thursday 26 January 2006 08:52, Ben Thorp wrote: snip My original intention was to make the fee nominal (£2-£3), and, should the need arise, I am willing fund any shortfall myself. There be dragons here. I wouldn't trust this lot with anything like that. You'll find yourself offering £100 expenses to a good speaker, only to find that 1 person turns up for it. Supply and demand: check the supply first, hence this conversation. If no-one shows an interest, there's no point in booking the speaker, is there? :) -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] looking for old BBC Master computer :) {Scanned}
Matt Lowe wrote: Hi, I know its not excatly a linux question, but does anyone out there have any old BBC Master or BBC Master Compact machines? i need one to use on an old piece of hardware ive dug out of the loft, and it wont run on the BBC B's that ive got. I don't mean to be rude (hehe) but eBay is probably a good bet: http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?satitle=bbc+master -- _ __/| William Anderson | It's called a changeover. The movie \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | goes on, and nobody in the audience has =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | any idea. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- the Narrator, Fight Club ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Network sound systems
Paul JH Drake wrote: [random audio requirements snippage] http://plutohome.com/ s'deid jim ... -- _ __/| William Anderson | It's called a changeover. The movie \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | goes on, and nobody in the audience has =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | any idea. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- the Narrator, Fight Club ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Hardware database
Kyle Gordon wrote: If anyone is interested in sharing their hardware experiences with us, then have a look at http://hash.scotlug.org.uk/wiki/Scotlug_Linux_hardware_database nice I'm still working on my bits :-) f'nar -- _ __/| William Anderson | It's called a changeover. The movie \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | goes on, and nobody in the audience has =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | any idea. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- the Narrator, Fight Club ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Open Source Business
Peter George wrote: [snip] I was primarily curious to hear about others who are actively involved in creating open source software, running Sourceforge projects etc. I expect that there are absolutely loads of companies using it, but who's creating it in Scotland? Well, off the top of my head, jriddell is Mister Kubuntu, I am still very much a part of SmoothWall and I'm helping out with the nessus GPL fork OpenVAS, and I'm sure there are others out there ... lurking silently in the dark :) -- _ __/| William Anderson | It's called a changeover. The movie \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | goes on, and nobody in the audience has =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | any idea. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- the Narrator, Fight Club ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Centeris - Interesting Product
Peter George wrote: http://www.centeris.com/ Enables Administrators more comfortable with a Windows environment manage Linux network resources. cha-chiing. -- _ __/| William Anderson | It's called a changeover. The movie \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | goes on, and nobody in the audience has =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | any idea. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- the Narrator, Fight Club ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Open Source Business
Peter George wrote: I'm curious as to wether any other members are working with open source software companies in Scotland. I'm talking with ScotlandIS about organizing a Scottish open source event for early next year, which might be an opportunity to showcase your software. That aside, it would be interesting to hear who's doing what anyway. lo pete, what about companies who use or run on open source software? :) -- _ __/| William Anderson | It's called a changeover. The movie \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | goes on, and nobody in the audience has =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | any idea. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- the Narrator, Fight Club ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Website changes
Billy wrote: [snip] The other issue is the date in the month. A few people find the last thursday quite tricky as it's just before payday so some discussion has been had on IRC about moving to an alternate day. 1st thursday, 2nd? Monday as the beer is cheap? The first thursday clashes with EdLUG, so that's a bit unfair on anyone wanting to go to both meets. Maybe the first tuesday or wednesday of the month? -- _ __/| William Anderson | It's called a changeover. The movie \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | goes on, and nobody in the audience has =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | any idea. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- the Narrator, Fight Club ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Hopeless newbie does Tomcat (or not, as the case may be...)
Steve Logan wrote: [snip] I've also tried installing via the command line using rpm -il jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.rpm which appears to work OK but when I try java -version I get told that 'bash: java: command not found' and I don't have the correct environment variables set. Have I got the rpm switches correct? rpm -Uvh jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.rpm that'll upgrade where necessary, install otherwise, and give you visual cues as to the progress. And no, when using rpm, it doesn't matter where the rpm file is. When installing stuff from rpm and not using package management - which since all my rpm based kit is running CentOS, means up2date - I usually create an rpms directory in root's home directory, and chuck them there. -- _ __/| William Anderson | It's called a changeover. The movie \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | goes on, and nobody in the audience has =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | any idea. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- the Narrator, Fight Club ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] October 2005's meet
lo troops, in lieu of anything more exciting, this month's meet on Thursday the 27th will comprise of a pub quiz sans pub at Livingston Tower at 19:30, then we shall retire to the pleasant shade of the Counting House at 21:00 for Campari and cigarillos forged from herbs of rosemary, Spanish tarragon, laksa and black truffles. See you there! -- _ __/| William Anderson | It's called a changeover. The movie \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | goes on, and nobody in the audience has =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | any idea. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- the Narrator, Fight Club ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] please break my software!
Colin McKinnon wrote: Hi all, I've just uploaded a new release of my pet project PfP Studio to Sourceforge. (It's a PHP thingy for developing forms). I'd welcome any feedback on your experiences with it. http://pfp-studio.sourceforge.net/ why did you decide to release under the MPL, JOOI? -- _ __/| William Anderson | It's called a changeover. The movie \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | goes on, and nobody in the audience has =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | any idea. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- the Narrator, Fight Club ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] New to Scotland
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Also, if anyone knows of any good jobs or resources in Glasgow for a linux (and perl, rdbms, etc...) guru that would be great. If you don't mind the idea of a commute to Leith, on the east side of Edinburgh, there's a currently-unadvertised PHP/Perl/RDBMS job coming up at Lumison - http://www.lumison.net/ ... /inside-knowledge -- _ __/| William Anderson | It's called a changeover. The movie \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | goes on, and nobody in the audience has =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | any idea. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- the Narrator, Fight Club ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] future meeting idea
Andrew Calverley wrote: As long as these guys bring loads of swag, I will listen to their marketing talk. You corporate whore : -- _ __/| William Anderson | It's called a changeover. The movie \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | goes on, and nobody in the audience has =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | any idea. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- the Narrator, Fight Club ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Compiling and installing a second vanilla kernel
Andrew Thomas wrote: Hello I'm a linux newbie, and I'm trying to compile and install a second vanilla kernel so I can use this to build some device driver code. The Linux device drivers book advises me to do this. I am using SUSE 9.2 on my system. I have downloaded the latest kernel, but when I try to do a make menuconfig, or make I get the following error: /usr/src/linux-2.6.12.3/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc: command not found /usr/src/linux-2.6.12.3/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 12: gcc: command not found HOSTCC scripts/basic/fixdep /bin/sh: gcc: command not found make[1]: *** [scripts/basic/fixdep] Error 127 make: *** [scripts_basic] Error 2 Can anyone tell me why this is? At the risk of sounding either a) obvious or b) cheeky, you don't appear to have gcc installed :) -- _ __/| William Anderson | It's called a changeover. The movie \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | goes on, and nobody in the audience has =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | any idea. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- the Narrator, Fight Club ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] July's Meeting
Kyle Gordon wrote: [snip] Due to me having a horrendously busy week, and roughly one week to prepare for this, it's been decided that I will do my talk next month. So instead of it being Here's how far I got trying to install Freevo..., it'll be something a bit more substantial. I've got a ~ 15 min video clip of the systm.org guys doing a mythtv install from knoppmyth - might be a useful filler for ya and something quick to show everyone before you kick off whatever you're gonna talk about :) -- _ __/| William Anderson | It's called a changeover. The movie \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | goes on, and nobody in the audience has =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | any idea. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- the Narrator, Fight Club ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] New media Scotland event
Hannah Clinch wrote: Glasgow gets its first Upgrade! 27/7/2005 The Upgrade! Scotland is a regular forum for those interested in art technology to get together and look at each other's work. It builds on and into a well established international network http://www.theupgrade.org Wow, talk about short notice. And not Linux related. Jack's a bit of a nutter I hear tho :) -- _ __/| William Anderson | It's called a changeover. The movie \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | goes on, and nobody in the audience has =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | any idea. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- the Narrator, Fight Club ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] [Fwd: backstage.bbc.co.uk Open Tech 2005, Saturday July 23rd]
Kyle Gordon wrote: Anyone up for this? I certainly am :-) Mass train journey down to it? might be :) -- _ __/| William Anderson | There's something about records which is \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | really satisfying. =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | -- John Peel (1939 - 2004) U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] SuSe Internet Access
Robert Barbour wrote: When (if?) I get online with the modem, the first job is to update Suse, but it is a case of the chicken and the egg at the moment. Does anyone know if SuSe 9.2 professional definitely works OK with a US Robotics modem on dial-up? I'm beginning to think maybe I should get SuSe 9.3 and give that a go! Do you mean a regular 56k modem plugged into a serial port? Most if not all distros should surely be able to talk to the modem as a dumb 33.6k modem if they can't send the right AT commands to get the modem to neg up to V42. Serial ports Just Work (tm) :) -- _ __/| William Anderson | There's something about records which is \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | really satisfying. =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | -- John Peel (1939 - 2004) U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [edlug] RE: [Scottish] Linux Install Day
Peter George wrote: Did you order a stack of Ubuntu LiveCD's as well? They'll be a better giveaway than installers for people who just want to suck it and see. IIRC the x86 CD packs come with two disks: Install and Live ... ah yes, they do: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/shipit/ PPC and AMD64 don't have Live CDs yet, ergo those packs only have the Install CD. -- _ __/| William Anderson | There's something about records which is \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | really satisfying. =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | -- John Peel (1939 - 2004) U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Linux Install Day
Andy McKay wrote: [snip] If we were to install the same os (ubuntu for example) and every machine then it would be much easer to just run a local mirror for the day (and so much faster). Local mirrors can't handle multiple distros? I think having Ubuntu warty, Ubuntu hoary, FC3, FC4test1, Debian woody, Debian sarge, etc etc onsite on CDs and DVDs would be tres useful. It all sounds good, I'd be happy to muck in. I should have a 24 port nortel 10/100 switch and a 24 port netgear 10 meg hub I can loan for the event. -- _ __/| William Anderson | There's something about records which is \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | really satisfying. =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | -- John Peel (1939 - 2004) U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] This months meeting, and other stories
Ben Thorp wrote: [snip] Lastly, but definitely worth a mention. Some of us are, or have been, listeners of LUGRadio, the fortnightly radio show put out by some guys from Wolverhampton. They have decided to run a one-day conference (LUGRadio Live!) in June (25th June to be precise) in Wolverhampton. Dissatisfied with the over-corporate-ness of the existing Expos, they are hoping to make this the premier Linux event in the UK for Linux users, not just businessmen. The event is running at very low cost (£5 a ticket), but has a good range of speakers. See http://www.lugradio.org/live/2005/ for up-to-date details, I'm taking my car with three fellow scotlug types (sorry, all seats now filled by mrben, lonewolff and jriddell), bagpuss_thecat aka kyle might be driving down too, so if anyone else wants to carpool and make it a convoy, get in touch at this month's meeting and we can start advance planning - we can finalise details in time for the April meeting to lock stuff down for the trip at the end of June. -- _ __/| William Anderson | There's something about records which is \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | really satisfying. =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | -- John Peel (1939 - 2004) U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] LUGRadio Live
Ben Thorp wrote: For those of you who have been listeners of LUGRadio (http://www.lugradio.org) over the last year, they have announced 'LUGRadio Live', their 'tradeshow' or expo, or whatever. It will be on 25th June 2005, in Wolverhampton - the main event will be running from 12pm - 6pm, with a more 'social' evening also planned. This should mean that it would be a matter of going down on Saturday morning, and coming back up on Sunday morning I suspect. I'm planning to drive down early on Saturday morning and mrben has blagged a seat already. I have two more seats available for those wishing to travel light (i.e. travel bag + laptop bag) and willing to share the expense (say £20 quid a seat return?) -- _ __/| William Anderson | There's something about records which is \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | really satisfying. =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | -- John Peel (1939 - 2004) U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] LUGRadio Live
Kyle Gordon wrote: [snip] To follow that up, I'm happy to rent a car and then share the costs. Road trip! :) -- _ __/| William Anderson | There's something about records which is \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | really satisfying. =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | -- John Peel (1939 - 2004) U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Paisley Beer Festival - April 15th, 2005
Andrew Calverley wrote: We are currently planning the ScotLUG trip to the Paisley Beer Festival. Currently, the preferred date seems to the Friday, April 15th. To avoid the long crowds that form in the evening, I would suggest that we try to meet and get there early. Any comments, please send them in. 2 months before is a bit early to meet up for it, no? : -- _ __/| William Anderson | There's something about records which is \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | really satisfying. =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | -- John Peel (1939 - 2004) U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Good Live Disk for ...
Colin McKinnon wrote: [snip] erk. Not a USB one? (they don't even work very well with MS-Windows). It is possible to get them to work with Linux but last time I looked it seemed a bit of a struggle. IIRC SuSE is better than some in this dept, but a ethernet connected device will save a lot of pain. IIRC the Intel USB stuff never did get open sourced and Intel didn't release binary-only drivers nVidia-stylee. Shame. -- _ __/| William Anderson | There's something about records which is \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | really satisfying. =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | -- John Peel (1939 - 2004) U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] (no subject)
Ben Thorp wrote: [snip] And if there is anyone who has a half hour to spare in Glesga's West End and could meet me to help me verify if I'm just a doughball, or if indeed I've got a bad copy of Linux, would you please get in touch? I'm in the Westend and could meet up if you like - mail me off list: mrben at jedimoose.org don't forget, Paul, there's a ScotLUG meeting this Thursday - see www.scotlug.org.uk for details -- _ __/| William Anderson | There's something about records which is \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | really satisfying. =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | -- John Peel (1939 - 2004) U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] (no subject)
babaguy wrote: Dear All, I am the neophyte who understands virtually nothing about Linux, but whom many of you were kind enough to offer help to, a few weeks ago. I am still no further ahead with my Suse Linux 9.1 Personal - I feel very strongly that I simply got a duff copy of the software (I went into the directories last night to try to see some information at least ( ! ) about the USB ports, or the modem - and nothing would open, nothing would appear when I clicked upon the files listing USB's for example, in the directory - likewise (as I think I shared some weeks back) when I typed [snip] Download ubuntu from www.ubuntulinux.org and please put some line breaks in your messages :) -- _ __/| William Anderson | There's something about records which is \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | really satisfying. =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | -- John Peel (1939 - 2004) U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. Any offers or quotation of service are subject to formal specification. Errors and omissions excepted. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Lumison, nplusone or lightershade ltd. Finally, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. Lumison, nplusone and lightershade ltd accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. -- -- Virus scanned by Lumison. ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] sweet dell offer
Dell PowerEdge 1600SC for £99 ex vat/delivery 2.4GHz Xeon, dual capable, 256MB RAM, 80GB IDE HDD, CDROM, onboard PERC (RAID) controller, 2 PCI-X, 2 PCI-64, 2 PCI, onboard gigabit NIC, £350 saving comes out at about £175 with vat and delivery http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/servers_Q4_W5_pedge_1600sc_pe1218?c=ukcs=ukbsdt1l=ens=bsd pretty schweet deal from dell : -- _ __/| William Anderson | There's something about records which is \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | really satisfying. =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | -- John Peel (1939 - 2004) U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. Any offers or quotation of service are subject to formal specification. Errors and omissions excepted. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Lumison, nplusone or lightershade ltd. Finally, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. Lumison, nplusone and lightershade ltd accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. -- -- Virus scanned by Lumison. ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Xp Dual boot
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] He runs XP2 as his main OS abut has disk space to spare. Is there any problem in repartitioning and reformating some odf that space and Dual booting? Does NTFS object? I did this with knoppix and XP a while back, as knoppix has ntfs partition resizing tools included - possibly one of the scarier moments of my IT career. It's doable, but you'll / he'll be in brown pants mode for the bulk of the time you spend doing it. There are a variety of FAQs on the subject, no doubt a quick google for knoppix NTFS resize will throw up the best candidates. -- _ __/| William Anderson | There's something about records which is \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | really satisfying. =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | -- John Peel (1939 - 2004) U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Patrik Harvie's Open Source motioon in Holyrood
Alan wrote: http://www.faxyourmp.com . very useful for contacing your local mp Danger, Will Robinson ... your MP != your MSP - don't use faxyourmp.com to piss off someone who can't affect what your MSP will do :) -- _ __/| William Anderson | There's something about records which is \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | really satisfying. =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | -- John Peel (1939 - 2004) U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] [jobs] support job (again)
William Anderson wrote: lo all, sorry for the spam chunder again, but there's another support role open here at Lumison in our datacentre in Newbridge. Just as a followup: http://jobsearch.monster.co.uk/getjob.asp?JobID=24510851 -- _ __/| William Anderson | There's something about records which is \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | really satisfying. =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | -- John Peel (1939 - 2004) U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] [jobs] support job (again)
lo all, sorry for the spam chunder again, but there's another support role open here at Lumison in our datacentre in Newbridge. More details at http://www.lumison.co.uk/~william/ -- _ __/| William Anderson | There's something about records which is \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | really satisfying. =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | -- John Peel (1939 - 2004) U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] xbox linux (again)
Georgia Thomson wrote: not as far as i'm aware, playstation2 can run linux, but with a lot more work than is required for an xbox to do so. I'm sure someone got a PlayStation running some form of Linux or NetBSD (it's just a MIPS target after all) but it was hack city and they were the mayor. Installing Linux on an original-style PS2 is a snap compared to installing on an Xbox, it just requires a lot more cash :) -- _ __/| William Anderson | Brodie: The Force is strong with this one \`O_o' neuro at well dot com |Jay: Dude, don't encourage him =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | -- Mallrats, (1995) U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] list traffic
Andrew Calverley wrote: The list does seem to be a lot less active than the IRC channel. Of course it be less active, would ye be wantin' an email for every sentence everyone says every second of the day? Ye be a scurvy landlubber for even implying the list should be as active as them dogs on IRC! It may be worthwhile to remind the IRC people to use the list more often to tell people of upcoming events or ask technical questions. yarr, ye be a rich one telling of IRC people when ye be one yerself, arrr. -- _ __/| William Anderson | Brodie: The Force is strong with this one \`O_o' neuro at well dot com |Jay: Dude, don't encourage him =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | -- Mallrats, (1995) U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] [job] support types
lo folks there's a support job opening up here at Lumison (née edNET), just wondering if anyone's interested. £14K-18K, front line supporting Linux, Doze, Mac customers by email and telephone with any problems with our services (dial, broadband, doze/linux hosting, colo, etc), based out in our new datacentre facility in Newbridge (just outside Edinburgh, near the airport). The really nasty stuff gets escalated to us systems types :) Full job description available on demand, just chuck me a mail off-list if anyone's interested. -- _ __/| William Anderson | Brodie: The Force is strong with this one \`O_o' neuro at well dot com |Jay: Dude, don't encourage him =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | -- Mallrats, (1995) U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] [Fwd: [edlug] PCW Accepts Linux Day [Was Advocacy Day]]
Kyle Gordon wrote: [snip] Feedback? on this list? about a community 'event'? You must be havin' a laff grumpy bastard :) -- _ __/| William Anderson | Brodie: The Force is strong with this one \`O_o' neuro at well dot com |Jay: Dude, don't encourage him =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | -- Mallrats, (1995) U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] wat courses should i take? {Scanned}
Andrew Calverley wrote: If you need it grab the cert. If not, don't worry about it. Certs are only necessary when job-hunting. They are a ticket, a key and nothing more. But you only know if that the door is locked when you do not have the key. fwiw, the job I've just started here at Lumison (née edNET) specified LPIC 2, but my LPIC 1 plus 10+ years experience got me the job. Also, I sat no training courses for my two LPIC exams, I just turned up and passed. I suspect I'd perform favourably for the LPIC 2 exams simply due to my experience - note that I'm not saying I'd definitely pass 100%, just that I reckon I'd do OK :) If any company rejects a job applicant out of hand who looks suitable bar the fact they haven't got a piece of paper saying they or an employer spent £££ on exams, IMO they need a bit of a slap. -- _ __/| William Anderson | Brodie: The Force is strong with this one \`O_o' neuro at well dot com |Jay: Dude, don't encourage him =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | -- Mallrats, (1995) U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Just joined
Alan Rutherford wrote: Is there an SLUG meeting next week? Should be - fancy giving a talk about something? j/k ;) -- _ __/| William Anderson | Brodie: The Force is strong with this one \`O_o' neuro at well dot com |Jay: Dude, don't encourage him =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | -- Mallrats, (1995) U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Date/Time on emails, etc.
Colin Fraser wrote: OK, so I'm maybe inviting some flames here! Why don't people synchronise the date/time on their machines? Am I just being pedantic here or are there others who get annoyed reading replies to emails apparently sent before the original post (I hasten to add this is not particularly common on this list). Oh, synchronise date/time! /chewingthefat :) -- _ __/| William Anderson | Brodie: The Force is strong with this one \`O_o' neuro at well dot com |Jay: Dude, don't encourage him =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | -- Mallrats, (1995) U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Date/Time on emails, etc.
Colin McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 20 July 2004 12:33, Ben Thorp wrote: /me apt-get install's ntp-simple: So how come your reply was before Colin's post Because Colin's post, rather amusingly, had the time set 20 minutes ahead :) Check the headers. -- _ __/| William Anderson | Brodie: The Force is strong with this one \`O_o' neuro at well dot com |Jay: Dude, don't encourage him =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | -- Mallrats, (1995) U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
