Re: [Scottish] Suggestions/help with barcode scanner

2004-03-20 Thread Kenny Kerr
oops.

it's a different type of scanner. I've had a look on the web and I *now*
know what type it is.
It should be possible to get a keyboard wedge cable for it.  but you'll need
the book of barcodes that normally come with it I think to set it up for
that mode.  Not sure about the power requirments, I'm certain it can get
enough power from the keyboard port in wedge mode, but I can't remember how
it gets power in serial mode...

I've been out of the barcode business for about 3 years.  bit rusty! :-)

Cheers

K
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 delurk...

 Hi

 I think I know the type of thing you mean.  You'll probably need to get a
 pinout diagram, and make a custom cable. to connect it to the PC.  As the
 connector also takes the power to the scanner, it's not as simple as
pluggin
 it in.   I can't remember the pinout myself, but I have a feeling that the
 scanner is the same as the DATALOGIC.  is it about the size of a fag
packet
 with  a cut corner where the cable comes out?

 Regards

 Kenny

 /delurk

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 Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 10:18 AM
 Subject: [Scottish] Suggestions/help with barcode scanner


 
 
 
 
  OK - I got burned by an eBay purchase - it had to happen sometime.
 
  I picked up a Symbol LS2000 barcode scanner, which comes (for some
unknown
  reason) with a 25 pin male serial plug on the end of the lead (although
it
  only has 9 pins in it). I thought I would be OK just getting an adaptor
to
  change it to a 9-pin female, and then plugging into a standard serial
 port,
  but that does not seem to be working.
 
  I am looking, therefore, for the following:
 
  1. Somebody with some experience who can either get it working, or would
  like a new toy
  2. A PS/2 barcode scanner (preferred, but serial might do) that works
 under
  Linux, that somebody would like to either sell, or lend to me for 6
months
  while I finish the project involved.
 
  Otherwise I'm heading back to eBay to try again :(
 
  Ben Thorp
 
 
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Re: [Scottish] Suggestions/help with barcode scanner

2004-03-19 Thread Kenny Kerr
delurk...

Hi

I think I know the type of thing you mean.  You'll probably need to get a
pinout diagram, and make a custom cable. to connect it to the PC.  As the
connector also takes the power to the scanner, it's not as simple as pluggin
it in.   I can't remember the pinout myself, but I have a feeling that the
scanner is the same as the DATALOGIC.  is it about the size of a fag packet
with  a cut corner where the cable comes out?

Regards

Kenny

/delurk

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 OK - I got burned by an eBay purchase - it had to happen sometime.

 I picked up a Symbol LS2000 barcode scanner, which comes (for some unknown
 reason) with a 25 pin male serial plug on the end of the lead (although it
 only has 9 pins in it). I thought I would be OK just getting an adaptor to
 change it to a 9-pin female, and then plugging into a standard serial
port,
 but that does not seem to be working.

 I am looking, therefore, for the following:

 1. Somebody with some experience who can either get it working, or would
 like a new toy
 2. A PS/2 barcode scanner (preferred, but serial might do) that works
under
 Linux, that somebody would like to either sell, or lend to me for 6 months
 while I finish the project involved.

 Otherwise I'm heading back to eBay to try again :(

 Ben Thorp


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Re: [Scottish] Suggestions/help with barcode scanner

2004-03-19 Thread Kenny Kerr
yeah, oops.  I'm a bit rusty on my scanners. it's been about 3 years or so.

I think you can get a keyboard wedge cable for them though.

Cheers

Kenny
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 19-03-2004 10:28:33:

  delurk...
 
  Hi
 
  I think I know the type of thing you mean.  You'll probably need to get
a
  pinout diagram, and make a custom cable. to connect it to the PC.  As
the
  connector also takes the power to the scanner, it's not as simple as
 pluggin
  it in.   I can't remember the pinout myself, but I have a feeling that
 the
  scanner is the same as the DATALOGIC.  is it about the size of a fag
 packet
  with  a cut corner where the cable comes out?

 No - its more of a gun-style one. However, I did get the manuals from the
 Symbol website, so I have the pinout diagrams. I guessed the big problem
 was the power. Ultimately, I don't really have the time/inclination to
 spend a lot of time adapting it, so if someone would like it, they would
be
 welcome to it.

 
  Regards
 
  Kenny
 
  /delurk
 
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  Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 10:18 AM
  Subject: [Scottish] Suggestions/help with barcode scanner
 
 
  
  
  
  
   OK - I got burned by an eBay purchase - it had to happen sometime.
  
   I picked up a Symbol LS2000 barcode scanner, which comes (for some
 unknown
   reason) with a 25 pin male serial plug on the end of the lead
(although
 it
   only has 9 pins in it). I thought I would be OK just getting an
adaptor
 to
   change it to a 9-pin female, and then plugging into a standard serial
  port,
   but that does not seem to be working.
  
   I am looking, therefore, for the following:
  
   1. Somebody with some experience who can either get it working, or
 would
   like a new toy
   2. A PS/2 barcode scanner (preferred, but serial might do) that works
  under
   Linux, that somebody would like to either sell, or lend to me for 6
 months
   while I finish the project involved.
  
   Otherwise I'm heading back to eBay to try again :(
  
   Ben Thorp
  
  
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Re: [Scottish] Suggestions/help with barcode scanner

2004-03-19 Thread Ben Thorp





[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 19-03-2004 10:45:41:

 Hi,

 Is this of any help?

 http://www.globalscan.com/symbol%20ls2000.htm

 It says you need a decoder to use it.  I installed Symbol scanners on a
 retail contract in 1998 and they plugged into an ISA decoder card
 inside the till.

Actually, the version I have is the 2020 - it says LS2000 on the front, but
the side label indicates that it is a LS2020, so according to that page:

The LS2020 is a decoded scanner, therefore, it has a built-in RS232 wedge
which would enable this scanner to plug in directly to any RS232 serial
port. However, your application must know to initialize and open the serial
port and send the scanned data to the appropriate place within your
software. You can use PortKey Software for this purpose if your application
does not support this type of scanner. A special interface cable is
required in addition to the scanner. 

So it looks like I might be screwed software-wise, and hardware-wise :(

/me heads back to eBay


 Maybe you can pick up the decoder on eBay?

 Graeme

 On 19 Mar 2004, at 10:18, Ben Thorp wrote:

 
 
 
 
  OK - I got burned by an eBay purchase - it had to happen sometime.
 
  I picked up a Symbol LS2000 barcode scanner, which comes (for some
  unknown
  reason) with a 25 pin male serial plug on the end of the lead
  (although it
  only has 9 pins in it). I thought I would be OK just getting an
  adaptor to
  change it to a 9-pin female, and then plugging into a standard serial
  port,
  but that does not seem to be working.
 
  I am looking, therefore, for the following:
 
  1. Somebody with some experience who can either get it working, or
  would
  like a new toy
  2. A PS/2 barcode scanner (preferred, but serial might do) that works
  under
  Linux, that somebody would like to either sell, or lend to me for 6
  months
  while I finish the project involved.
 
  Otherwise I'm heading back to eBay to try again :(
 
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Re: [Scottish] Suggestions/help with barcode scanner

2004-03-19 Thread Ben Thorp





[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 19-03-2004 10:28:33:

 delurk...

 Hi

 I think I know the type of thing you mean.  You'll probably need to get a
 pinout diagram, and make a custom cable. to connect it to the PC.  As the
 connector also takes the power to the scanner, it's not as simple as
pluggin
 it in.   I can't remember the pinout myself, but I have a feeling that
the
 scanner is the same as the DATALOGIC.  is it about the size of a fag
packet
 with  a cut corner where the cable comes out?

No - its more of a gun-style one. However, I did get the manuals from the
Symbol website, so I have the pinout diagrams. I guessed the big problem
was the power. Ultimately, I don't really have the time/inclination to
spend a lot of time adapting it, so if someone would like it, they would be
welcome to it.


 Regards

 Kenny

 /delurk

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 Subject: [Scottish] Suggestions/help with barcode scanner


 
 
 
 
  OK - I got burned by an eBay purchase - it had to happen sometime.
 
  I picked up a Symbol LS2000 barcode scanner, which comes (for some
unknown
  reason) with a 25 pin male serial plug on the end of the lead (although
it
  only has 9 pins in it). I thought I would be OK just getting an adaptor
to
  change it to a 9-pin female, and then plugging into a standard serial
 port,
  but that does not seem to be working.
 
  I am looking, therefore, for the following:
 
  1. Somebody with some experience who can either get it working, or
would
  like a new toy
  2. A PS/2 barcode scanner (preferred, but serial might do) that works
 under
  Linux, that somebody would like to either sell, or lend to me for 6
months
  while I finish the project involved.
 
  Otherwise I'm heading back to eBay to try again :(
 
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Re: [Scottish] Suggestions/help with barcode scanner {Scanned}

2004-03-19 Thread Ben Thorp




nope. tried it on the works laptop (win2k) and it doesn't pick it up at
all, and you still get no laser :(

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 19-03-2004 15:35:04:

 Ben,
 Does it work under windoz?

 Matt


 Ben Thorp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ..
 
 
 
 
  OK - I got burned by an eBay purchase - it had to happen sometime.
 
  I picked up a Symbol LS2000 barcode scanner, which comes (for some
unknown
  reason) with a 25 pin male serial plug on the end of the lead (although
  it
  only has 9 pins in it). I thought I would be OK just getting an adaptor
  to
  change it to a 9-pin female, and then plugging into a standard serial
port,
  but that does not seem to be working.
 
  I am looking, therefore, for the following:
 
  1. Somebody with some experience who can either get it working, or
would
  like a new toy
  2. A PS/2 barcode scanner (preferred, but serial might do) that works
under
  Linux, that somebody would like to either sell, or lend to me for 6
months
  while I finish the project involved.
 
  Otherwise I'm heading back to eBay to try again :(
 
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Re: [Scottish] Suggestions/help with barcode scanner {Scanned}

2004-03-19 Thread scotlug
Ben,
The rs232 port normally gives VERY low power output, even running 2 IR-LEDs can 
overload some serial ports :(
Are you sure there isnt any other connectors for power?
When you tried it on w2k did you bring up hyperterminal, connect direcly to the com 
port (speed 9600/1 stop/no parity) and try typing commands like AT return?

Sorry if im stating the obfious but not sure what stuff you have tried yet :)

Ben Thorp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ..
 
 
 
 
 nope. tried it on the works laptop (win2k) and it doesn't pick it up at
 all, and you still get no laser :(
 
 Ben Thorp
 CRM/BTO Contact Centre, EMEA
 Tel: +44 (0) 1475-892000
 Ext: 69688
 
 Visit our Web sites:
 External: http://www.ibm.com
 Internal: http://w3.emea.ibm.com/ssc
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 19-03-2004 15:35:04:
 
  Ben,
  Does it work under windoz?
 
  Matt
 
 
  Ben Thorp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ..
  
  
  
  
   OK - I got burned by an eBay purchase - it had to happen sometime.
  
   I picked up a Symbol LS2000 barcode scanner, which comes (for some
 unknown
   reason) with a 25 pin male serial plug on the end of the lead (although
   it
   only has 9 pins in it). I thought I would be OK just getting an adaptor
   to
   change it to a 9-pin female, and then plugging into a standard serial
 port,
   but that does not seem to be working.
  
   I am looking, therefore, for the following:
  
   1. Somebody with some experience who can either get it working, or
 would
   like a new toy
   2. A PS/2 barcode scanner (preferred, but serial might do) that works
 under
   Linux, that somebody would like to either sell, or lend to me for 6
 months
   while I finish the project involved.
  
   Otherwise I'm heading back to eBay to try again :(
  
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Re: [Scottish] Suggestions/help with barcode scanner {Scanned}

2004-03-19 Thread Ben Thorp




[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 19-03-2004 16:24:45:

 Ben,
 The rs232 port normally gives VERY low power output, even running 2
 IR-LEDs can overload some serial ports :(
 Are you sure there isnt any other connectors for power?

No - there aren't. However, I don't think it was designed to go into a
normal PC. You can run it off a battery pack, or direct from a 'host'
machine according to the manual, but I don't think a PC was what they would
normally mean by a host machine. The manual also suggests that the minimum
voltage would be 4.5, IIRC

 When you tried it on w2k did you bring up hyperterminal, connect
 direcly to the com port (speed 9600/1 stop/no parity) and try typing
 commands like AT return?

No - don't know anything about Win2k ;) Was really just looking to see if
any lights came on..


 Sorry if im stating the obfious but not sure what stuff you have tried
yet :)

 Ben Thorp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ..
 
 
 
 
  nope. tried it on the works laptop (win2k) and it doesn't pick it up at
  all, and you still get no laser :(
 
  Ben Thorp
  CRM/BTO Contact Centre, EMEA
  Tel: +44 (0) 1475-892000
  Ext: 69688
 
  Visit our Web sites:
  External: http://www.ibm.com
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  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 19-03-2004 15:35:04:
 
   Ben,
   Does it work under windoz?
  
   Matt
  
  
   Ben Thorp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ..
   
   
   
   
OK - I got burned by an eBay purchase - it had to happen sometime.
   
I picked up a Symbol LS2000 barcode scanner, which comes (for some
  unknown
reason) with a 25 pin male serial plug on the end of the lead
(although
it
only has 9 pins in it). I thought I would be OK just getting an
adaptor
to
change it to a 9-pin female, and then plugging into a standard
serial
  port,
but that does not seem to be working.
   
I am looking, therefore, for the following:
   
1. Somebody with some experience who can either get it working, or
  would
like a new toy
2. A PS/2 barcode scanner (preferred, but serial might do) that
works
  under
Linux, that somebody would like to either sell, or lend to me for 6
  months
while I finish the project involved.
   
Otherwise I'm heading back to eBay to try again :(
   
Ben Thorp
   
   
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Re: [Scottish] Suggestions/help with barcode scanner {Scanned}

2004-03-19 Thread scotlug
Ben,
Some bar scanners go to sleep, and wont wake up until a wake command is sent.
The RS232 port can provide 5v but at a very low current (i dont have the docs in work, 
there buried somewhere in the house! so i cant check the exact mA output).

sorry cant help much more :(

Matt

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 19-03-2004 16:24:45:
 
  Ben,
  The rs232 port normally gives VERY low power output, even running 2
  IR-LEDs can overload some serial ports :(
  Are you sure there isnt any other connectors for power?
 
 No - there aren't. However, I don't think it was designed to go into a
 normal PC. You can run it off a battery pack, or direct from a 'host'
 machine according to the manual, but I don't think a PC was what they would
 normally mean by a host machine. The manual also suggests that the minimum
 voltage would be 4.5, IIRC
 
  When you tried it on w2k did you bring up hyperterminal, connect
  direcly to the com port (speed 9600/1 stop/no parity) and try typing
  commands like AT return?
 
 No - don't know anything about Win2k ;) Was really just looking to see
 if
 any lights came on..
 
 
  Sorry if im stating the obfious but not sure what stuff you have tried
 yet :)
 
  Ben Thorp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ..
  
  
  
  
   nope. tried it on the works laptop (win2k) and it doesn't pick it up
 at
   all, and you still get no laser :(
  
   Ben Thorp
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   Tel: +44 (0) 1475-892000
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   Visit our Web sites:
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   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 19-03-2004 15:35:04:
  
Ben,
Does it work under windoz?
   
Matt
   
   
Ben Thorp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ..




 OK - I got burned by an eBay purchase - it had to happen sometime.

 I picked up a Symbol LS2000 barcode scanner, which comes (for some
   unknown
 reason) with a 25 pin male serial plug on the end of the lead
 (although
 it
 only has 9 pins in it). I thought I would be OK just getting an
 adaptor
 to
 change it to a 9-pin female, and then plugging into a standard
 serial
   port,
 but that does not seem to be working.

 I am looking, therefore, for the following:

 1. Somebody with some experience who can either get it working,
 or
   would
 like a new toy
 2. A PS/2 barcode scanner (preferred, but serial might do) that
 works
   under
 Linux, that somebody would like to either sell, or lend to me for
 6
   months
 while I finish the project involved.

 Otherwise I'm heading back to eBay to try again :(

 Ben Thorp


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