Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] XSCE devel scrum on #schoolserver

2013-09-10 Thread Anish Mangal
Hi,

We had our very first IRC scrum earlier today. Thanks to all those who
attended. The meeting was logged.

=Rolling agenda document is here=
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1o6QtzLb6e58YKWqMf_junux2XyBRLFm31un8YLcYslg/edit

=Key highlights/minutes=

* Both RC-2 and stable release have been deferred by a week to 19th and
26th September respectively. This has been done in light of the recent
breakages, and to allow sufficient time to test on various supported
platforms.

* At some point (hopefully later this week) a separate RC-2 (Release
Candidate) branch will be created, after the major issues have been
resolved, and the buildbot will start automatic builds from that branch.

* There is some lack of clarity of the performance of IIAB (Internet In A
Box) on XO-1.5, XO-1.75 with/without extra swap memory. Anna will create a
public instance of XSCE-0.4 on an XO-1.5 at
http://schoolserver.alabamaxo.org.* *Once the server is up, she will
announce it here, and all of us are encouraged to test it as much as
possible.

* XSCE-0.4 RC2 will be presented at makerfaire http://makerfaire.com Sept
21/22 in NYC

=Request to community=
We are getting very close to the RC-2 and stable release. You are
encouraged to test the builds as much as possible, on whatever platform you
have access to, in whatever configuration you find comfortable. These
efforts would be most effective *once the RC-2 branch has been created (it
will be publicly announced again).*

=Here are the minutes as recorded by the bot=
https://sugardextrose.org/issues/4630

=Here are the full logs=
https://sugardextrose.org/attachments/3132/schoolserver.2013-09-10-16.03.log.txt

Best,
Anish



On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Anish Mangal an...@activitycentral.comwrote:

 Reminder to all. XSCE scrum on IRC at  1600 UTC / 0900 PDT / 1100 CDT /
 1200 EDT tomorrow. Please start thinking about your agenda items :-)


 On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Anish Mangal an...@activitycentral.comwrote:

 Okay, so based on the responses I've received so far, all weekdays, and
 1600 UTC seems like the best time slot. So I'll propose we hold weekly XSCE
 meetings on

 Tuesdays, 1600 UTC / 0900 PDT / 1100 CDT / 1200 EDT

 If somebody has an issue with that time, please speak up :)

 Best,
 Anish



 On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Anish Mangal 
 an...@activitycentral.comwrote:

 Yes exactly.
 On Aug 31, 2013 7:22 PM, Kevin Mark kevin.m...@verizon.net wrote:

 On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 12:56:29PM -0700, Anish Mangal wrote:
 +1
 We could use the services of xsceBOT :-)
 (uhps... sent the previous email from the wrong from: address :/ -
 gmail compose
 sucks)

 I know some Fedora folks who used a meeting bot (based on supybot). You
 give a
 command like 'start meeting' and 'end meeting', it logs the meeting and
 sends
 it as an email or something and you can add bullet points.
 -k

 
 
   On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Anna [1]ascho...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 I know the policy for #schoolserver is that logs aren't kept,
 but in the interest
 of transparency, perhaps we could log official #schoolserver
 meetings.  One of
 the nice things about meeting on IRC vs. Skype is that IRC
 meetings axiomatically
 have transcripts.
 Anna
 
 On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Anish Mangal [2]
 an...@activitycentral.com
 wrote:
 
   Hi,
   For some time now, people (including me) have been mulling
 the idea of having
   XSCE development meetings on IRC in complement to the weekly
 skype calls.
   Conversation on the #schoolserver channel has gradually been
 growing too. I
   would like to propose that we start holding weekly regular
 planning and scrum
   meetings to discuss plans and ideas around XSCE development.
 I don't have any
   structure in mind yet, so we can largely go off where the
 community wants it
   to.
   I don't what's the best time for anybody who might be
 interested, so I created
   this: [3]http://whenisgood.net/q72f3wf
   Thoughts?
   Best,
   Anish
 
   --
   Anish | [4]an...@sugarlabs.org
 
  References
 
 Visible links
 1. mailto:ascho...@gmail.com
 2. mailto:an...@activitycentral.com
 3. http://whenisgood.net/q72f3wf
 4. mailto:an...@sugarlabs.org




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Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] XSCE devel scrum on #schoolserver

2013-09-10 Thread Anna
I've currently got a public instance of the XSCE up in my house at
http://schoolserver.alabamaxo.org (but I change servers from time to time
during testing cycles so don't be surprised if tomorrow it's back on the
big old Dell with XS 0.6 or something else).

XO 1.5 with 1GB RAM
Class 6 SD card as swap
Two ethernet dongles
Full IIAB hard drive courtesy of Braddock

Several of us hit IIAB content at once and it was very, very slow (even
just over my LAN), but the machine hasn't crashed yet.  What we had
stability issues with before was the low end 1.75 which only has 512MB
RAM.  It just took a few folks hitting IIAB for it to freeze up completely,
necessitating a hard reboot.  Unfortunately, my low end 1.75's SD card
slot is broken and I can't test out swap on an SD card.

I'd like to encourage folks who have the ability and willingness to
publicly host their test XSCE's.  It's a lot of fun to have a testing party
over IRC!  And I mean, come on, out of the entire XSCE testing group, the
only person set up to test over the internet is an English major in Alabama?

Anna Schoolfield
Birmingham


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Anish Mangal an...@activitycentral.comwrote:

 Hi,

 We had our very first IRC scrum earlier today. Thanks to all those who
 attended. The meeting was logged.

 =Rolling agenda document is here=

 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1o6QtzLb6e58YKWqMf_junux2XyBRLFm31un8YLcYslg/edit

 =Key highlights/minutes=

 * Both RC-2 and stable release have been deferred by a week to 19th and
 26th September respectively. This has been done in light of the recent
 breakages, and to allow sufficient time to test on various supported
 platforms.

 * At some point (hopefully later this week) a separate RC-2 (Release
 Candidate) branch will be created, after the major issues have been
 resolved, and the buildbot will start automatic builds from that branch.

 * There is some lack of clarity of the performance of IIAB (Internet In A
 Box) on XO-1.5, XO-1.75 with/without extra swap memory. Anna will create a
 public instance of XSCE-0.4 on an XO-1.5 at
 http://schoolserver.alabamaxo.org.* *Once the server is up, she will
 announce it here, and all of us are encouraged to test it as much as
 possible.

 * XSCE-0.4 RC2 will be presented at makerfaire http://makerfaire.com Sept
 21/22 in NYC

 =Request to community=
 We are getting very close to the RC-2 and stable release. You are
 encouraged to test the builds as much as possible, on whatever platform you
 have access to, in whatever configuration you find comfortable. These
 efforts would be most effective *once the RC-2 branch has been created
 (it will be publicly announced again).*

 =Here are the minutes as recorded by the bot=
 https://sugardextrose.org/issues/4630

 =Here are the full logs=

 https://sugardextrose.org/attachments/3132/schoolserver.2013-09-10-16.03.log.txt

 Best,
 Anish



 On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Anish Mangal 
 an...@activitycentral.comwrote:

 Reminder to all. XSCE scrum on IRC at  1600 UTC / 0900 PDT / 1100 CDT /
 1200 EDT tomorrow. Please start thinking about your agenda items :-)


 On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Anish Mangal 
 an...@activitycentral.comwrote:

 Okay, so based on the responses I've received so far, all weekdays, and
 1600 UTC seems like the best time slot. So I'll propose we hold weekly XSCE
 meetings on

 Tuesdays, 1600 UTC / 0900 PDT / 1100 CDT / 1200 EDT

 If somebody has an issue with that time, please speak up :)

 Best,
 Anish



 On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Anish Mangal an...@activitycentral.com
  wrote:

 Yes exactly.
 On Aug 31, 2013 7:22 PM, Kevin Mark kevin.m...@verizon.net wrote:

 On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 12:56:29PM -0700, Anish Mangal wrote:
 +1
 We could use the services of xsceBOT :-)
 (uhps... sent the previous email from the wrong from: address :/
 - gmail compose
 sucks)

 I know some Fedora folks who used a meeting bot (based on supybot).
 You give a
 command like 'start meeting' and 'end meeting', it logs the meeting
 and sends
 it as an email or something and you can add bullet points.
 -k

 
 
   On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Anna [1]ascho...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 I know the policy for #schoolserver is that logs aren't kept,
 but in the interest
 of transparency, perhaps we could log official
 #schoolserver meetings.  One of
 the nice things about meeting on IRC vs. Skype is that IRC
 meetings axiomatically
 have transcripts.
 Anna
 
 On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Anish Mangal [2]
 an...@activitycentral.com
 wrote:
 
   Hi,
   For some time now, people (including me) have been mulling
 the idea of having
   XSCE development meetings on IRC in complement to the
 weekly skype calls.
   Conversation on the #schoolserver channel has gradually
 been growing too. I
   would like to propose that we start holding weekly regular
 planning and scrum
   

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] XSCE devel scrum on #schoolserver

2013-09-10 Thread James Cameron
On an XO-1.75 you can also swap to internal storage, USB, and network
block device.

But several clients shouldn't cause any problems with 512 MB of RAM,
that's way more than enough.  Please monitor the memory usage over the
test.

I think you need to examine the issues in more detail, and add a
serial console to catch any kernel panics.  Our XO-1.75 kernel was
designed and tested as a client, not a server, so you may need to
re-engineer it for server use.

On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 08:54:14PM -0500, Anna wrote:
 I've currently got a public instance of the XSCE up in my house at http://
 schoolserver.alabamaxo.org (but I change servers from time to time during
 testing cycles so don't be surprised if tomorrow it's back on the big old Dell
 with XS 0.6 or something else).
 
 XO 1.5 with 1GB RAM
 Class 6 SD card as swap
 Two ethernet dongles
 Full IIAB hard drive courtesy of Braddock
 
 Several of us hit IIAB content at once and it was very, very slow (even just
 over my LAN), but the machine hasn't crashed yet.  What we had stability 
 issues
 with before was the low end 1.75 which only has 512MB RAM.  It just took a
 few folks hitting IIAB for it to freeze up completely, necessitating a hard
 reboot.  Unfortunately, my low end 1.75's SD card slot is broken and I can't
 test out swap on an SD card.
 
 I'd like to encourage folks who have the ability and willingness to publicly
 host their test XSCE's.  It's a lot of fun to have a testing party over IRC!
  And I mean, come on, out of the entire XSCE testing group, the only person 
 set
 up to test over the internet is an English major in Alabama?
 
 Anna Schoolfield
 Birmingham
 
 
 On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Anish Mangal an...@activitycentral.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 We had our very first IRC scrum earlier today. Thanks to all those who
 attended. The meeting was logged. 
 
 =Rolling agenda document is here=
 https://docs.google.com/document/d/
 1o6QtzLb6e58YKWqMf_junux2XyBRLFm31un8YLcYslg/edit
 
 =Key highlights/minutes=
 
 * Both RC-2 and stable release have been deferred by a week to 19th and
 26th September respectively. This has been done in light of the recent
 breakages, and to allow sufficient time to test on various supported
 platforms.
 
 * At some point (hopefully later this week) a separate RC-2 (Release
 Candidate) branch will be created, after the major issues have been
 resolved, and the buildbot will start automatic builds from that branch.
 
 * There is some lack of clarity of the performance of IIAB (Internet In A
 Box) on XO-1.5, XO-1.75 with/without extra swap memory. Anna will create a
 public instance of XSCE-0.4 on an XO-1.5 at http://
 schoolserver.alabamaxo.org. Once the server is up, she will announce it
 here, and all of us are encouraged to test it as much as possible.
 
 * XSCE-0.4 RC2 will be presented at makerfaire http://makerfaire.com Sept
 21/22 in NYC
 
 =Request to community=
 We are getting very close to the RC-2 and stable release. You are
 encouraged to test the builds as much as possible, on whatever platform 
 you
 have access to, in whatever configuration you find comfortable. These
 efforts would be most effective once the RC-2 branch has been created (it
 will be publicly announced again).
 
 =Here are the minutes as recorded by the bot=
 https://sugardextrose.org/issues/4630
 
 =Here are the full logs=
 https://sugardextrose.org/attachments/3132/
 schoolserver.2013-09-10-16.03.log.txt
 
 Best,
 Anish
 
 
 
 On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Anish Mangal an...@activitycentral.com
 wrote:
 
 Reminder to all. XSCE scrum on IRC at  1600 UTC / 0900 PDT / 1100 CDT 
 /
 1200 EDT tomorrow. Please start thinking about your agenda items :-) 
 
 
 On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Anish Mangal 
 an...@activitycentral.com
  wrote:
 
 Okay, so based on the responses I've received so far, all 
 weekdays,
 and 1600 UTC seems like the best time slot. So I'll propose we 
 hold
 weekly XSCE meetings on
 
 Tuesdays, 1600 UTC / 0900 PDT / 1100 CDT / 1200 EDT 
 
 If somebody has an issue with that time, please speak up :)
 
 Best,
 Anish
 
 
 
 On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Anish Mangal 
 an...@activitycentral.com wrote:
 
 
 Yes exactly.
 
 On Aug 31, 2013 7:22 PM, Kevin Mark kevin.m...@verizon.net
 wrote:
 
 On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 12:56:29PM -0700, Anish Mangal
 wrote:
     +1
     We could use the services of xsceBOT :-)
     (uhps... sent the previous email from the wrong from:
 address :/ - gmail compose
     sucks)
 
 I know some Fedora 

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] XSCE devel scrum on #schoolserver

2013-09-09 Thread Anish Mangal
Reminder to all. XSCE scrum on IRC at  1600 UTC / 0900 PDT / 1100 CDT /
1200 EDT tomorrow. Please start thinking about your agenda items :-)


On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Anish Mangal an...@activitycentral.comwrote:

 Okay, so based on the responses I've received so far, all weekdays, and
 1600 UTC seems like the best time slot. So I'll propose we hold weekly XSCE
 meetings on

 Tuesdays, 1600 UTC / 0900 PDT / 1100 CDT / 1200 EDT

 If somebody has an issue with that time, please speak up :)

 Best,
 Anish



 On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Anish Mangal 
 an...@activitycentral.comwrote:

 Yes exactly.
 On Aug 31, 2013 7:22 PM, Kevin Mark kevin.m...@verizon.net wrote:

 On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 12:56:29PM -0700, Anish Mangal wrote:
 +1
 We could use the services of xsceBOT :-)
 (uhps... sent the previous email from the wrong from: address :/ -
 gmail compose
 sucks)

 I know some Fedora folks who used a meeting bot (based on supybot). You
 give a
 command like 'start meeting' and 'end meeting', it logs the meeting and
 sends
 it as an email or something and you can add bullet points.
 -k

 
 
   On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Anna [1]ascho...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 I know the policy for #schoolserver is that logs aren't kept,
 but in the interest
 of transparency, perhaps we could log official #schoolserver
 meetings.  One of
 the nice things about meeting on IRC vs. Skype is that IRC
 meetings axiomatically
 have transcripts.
 Anna
 
 On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Anish Mangal [2]
 an...@activitycentral.com
 wrote:
 
   Hi,
   For some time now, people (including me) have been mulling
 the idea of having
   XSCE development meetings on IRC in complement to the weekly
 skype calls.
   Conversation on the #schoolserver channel has gradually been
 growing too. I
   would like to propose that we start holding weekly regular
 planning and scrum
   meetings to discuss plans and ideas around XSCE development.
 I don't have any
   structure in mind yet, so we can largely go off where the
 community wants it
   to.
   I don't what's the best time for anybody who might be
 interested, so I created
   this: [3]http://whenisgood.net/q72f3wf
   Thoughts?
   Best,
   Anish
 
   --
   Anish | [4]an...@sugarlabs.org
 
  References
 
 Visible links
 1. mailto:ascho...@gmail.com
 2. mailto:an...@activitycentral.com
 3. http://whenisgood.net/q72f3wf
 4. mailto:an...@sugarlabs.org



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Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] XSCE devel scrum on #schoolserver

2013-09-03 Thread Anish Mangal
Okay, so based on the responses I've received so far, all weekdays, and
1600 UTC seems like the best time slot. So I'll propose we hold weekly XSCE
meetings on

Tuesdays, 1600 UTC / 0900 PDT / 1100 CDT / 1200 EDT

If somebody has an issue with that time, please speak up :)

Best,
Anish



On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Anish Mangal an...@activitycentral.comwrote:

 Yes exactly.
 On Aug 31, 2013 7:22 PM, Kevin Mark kevin.m...@verizon.net wrote:

 On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 12:56:29PM -0700, Anish Mangal wrote:
 +1
 We could use the services of xsceBOT :-)
 (uhps... sent the previous email from the wrong from: address :/ -
 gmail compose
 sucks)

 I know some Fedora folks who used a meeting bot (based on supybot). You
 give a
 command like 'start meeting' and 'end meeting', it logs the meeting and
 sends
 it as an email or something and you can add bullet points.
 -k

 
 
   On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Anna [1]ascho...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 I know the policy for #schoolserver is that logs aren't kept,
 but in the interest
 of transparency, perhaps we could log official #schoolserver
 meetings.  One of
 the nice things about meeting on IRC vs. Skype is that IRC
 meetings axiomatically
 have transcripts.
 Anna
 
 On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Anish Mangal [2]
 an...@activitycentral.com
 wrote:
 
   Hi,
   For some time now, people (including me) have been mulling the
 idea of having
   XSCE development meetings on IRC in complement to the weekly
 skype calls.
   Conversation on the #schoolserver channel has gradually been
 growing too. I
   would like to propose that we start holding weekly regular
 planning and scrum
   meetings to discuss plans and ideas around XSCE development. I
 don't have any
   structure in mind yet, so we can largely go off where the
 community wants it
   to.
   I don't what's the best time for anybody who might be
 interested, so I created
   this: [3]http://whenisgood.net/q72f3wf
   Thoughts?
   Best,
   Anish
 
   --
   Anish | [4]an...@sugarlabs.org
 
  References
 
 Visible links
 1. mailto:ascho...@gmail.com
 2. mailto:an...@activitycentral.com
 3. http://whenisgood.net/q72f3wf
 4. mailto:an...@sugarlabs.org


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Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] XSCE devel scrum on #schoolserver

2013-09-03 Thread Adam Holt
I'd much prefer Thursday on the same day as our voice meetings.  Or was
this separated by sev days for a reason?


On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Anish Mangal an...@activitycentral.comwrote:

 Okay, so based on the responses I've received so far, all weekdays, and
 1600 UTC seems like the best time slot. So I'll propose we hold weekly XSCE
 meetings on

 Tuesdays, 1600 UTC / 0900 PDT / 1100 CDT / 1200 EDT

 If somebody has an issue with that time, please speak up :)

 Best,
 Anish



 On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Anish Mangal 
 an...@activitycentral.comwrote:

 Yes exactly.
 On Aug 31, 2013 7:22 PM, Kevin Mark kevin.m...@verizon.net wrote:

 On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 12:56:29PM -0700, Anish Mangal wrote:
 +1
 We could use the services of xsceBOT :-)
 (uhps... sent the previous email from the wrong from: address :/ -
 gmail compose
 sucks)

 I know some Fedora folks who used a meeting bot (based on supybot). You
 give a
 command like 'start meeting' and 'end meeting', it logs the meeting and
 sends
 it as an email or something and you can add bullet points.
 -k

 
 
   On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Anna [1]ascho...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 I know the policy for #schoolserver is that logs aren't kept,
 but in the interest
 of transparency, perhaps we could log official #schoolserver
 meetings.  One of
 the nice things about meeting on IRC vs. Skype is that IRC
 meetings axiomatically
 have transcripts.
 Anna
 
 On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Anish Mangal [2]
 an...@activitycentral.com
 wrote:
 
   Hi,
   For some time now, people (including me) have been mulling
 the idea of having
   XSCE development meetings on IRC in complement to the weekly
 skype calls.
   Conversation on the #schoolserver channel has gradually been
 growing too. I
   would like to propose that we start holding weekly regular
 planning and scrum
   meetings to discuss plans and ideas around XSCE development.
 I don't have any
   structure in mind yet, so we can largely go off where the
 community wants it
   to.
   I don't what's the best time for anybody who might be
 interested, so I created
   this: [3]http://whenisgood.net/q72f3wf
   Thoughts?
   Best,
   Anish
 
   --
   Anish | [4]an...@sugarlabs.org
 
  References
 
 Visible links
 1. mailto:ascho...@gmail.com
 2. mailto:an...@activitycentral.com
 3. http://whenisgood.net/q72f3wf
 4. mailto:an...@sugarlabs.org





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Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] XSCE devel scrum on #schoolserver

2013-09-03 Thread Anish Mangal
I think Tuesday is good. It will help allow some buffer time between the
two meetings. If it doesn't work out well, we'll shift to Thursday after a
couple of weeks.

Okay?

Cheers,
Anish



On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Adam Holt h...@laptop.org wrote:

 I'd much prefer Thursday on the same day as our voice meetings.  Or was
 this separated by sev days for a reason?


 On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Anish Mangal an...@activitycentral.comwrote:

 Okay, so based on the responses I've received so far, all weekdays, and
 1600 UTC seems like the best time slot. So I'll propose we hold weekly XSCE
 meetings on

 Tuesdays, 1600 UTC / 0900 PDT / 1100 CDT / 1200 EDT

 If somebody has an issue with that time, please speak up :)

 Best,
 Anish



 On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Anish Mangal 
 an...@activitycentral.comwrote:

 Yes exactly.
 On Aug 31, 2013 7:22 PM, Kevin Mark kevin.m...@verizon.net wrote:

 On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 12:56:29PM -0700, Anish Mangal wrote:
 +1
 We could use the services of xsceBOT :-)
 (uhps... sent the previous email from the wrong from: address :/ -
 gmail compose
 sucks)

 I know some Fedora folks who used a meeting bot (based on supybot). You
 give a
 command like 'start meeting' and 'end meeting', it logs the meeting and
 sends
 it as an email or something and you can add bullet points.
 -k

 
 
   On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Anna [1]ascho...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 I know the policy for #schoolserver is that logs aren't kept,
 but in the interest
 of transparency, perhaps we could log official #schoolserver
 meetings.  One of
 the nice things about meeting on IRC vs. Skype is that IRC
 meetings axiomatically
 have transcripts.
 Anna
 
 On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Anish Mangal [2]
 an...@activitycentral.com
 wrote:
 
   Hi,
   For some time now, people (including me) have been mulling
 the idea of having
   XSCE development meetings on IRC in complement to the weekly
 skype calls.
   Conversation on the #schoolserver channel has gradually been
 growing too. I
   would like to propose that we start holding weekly regular
 planning and scrum
   meetings to discuss plans and ideas around XSCE development.
 I don't have any
   structure in mind yet, so we can largely go off where the
 community wants it
   to.
   I don't what's the best time for anybody who might be
 interested, so I created
   this: [3]http://whenisgood.net/q72f3wf
   Thoughts?
   Best,
   Anish
 
   --
   Anish | [4]an...@sugarlabs.org
 
  References
 
 Visible links
 1. mailto:ascho...@gmail.com
 2. mailto:an...@activitycentral.com
 3. http://whenisgood.net/q72f3wf
 4. mailto:an...@sugarlabs.org





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Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] XSCE devel scrum on #schoolserver

2013-09-03 Thread Anna
I agree with Anish, we need some buffer time between the two meetings.  As
much as I like all y'all, I'd prefer to not have to deal with two meetings
in one day.

Our Thursday Skype calls are useful, but IRC meetings are a totally
different animal when it comes to this stuff.  Specifically getting into
the nitty gritty details.  When we're speaking to each other by voice, I
have to pay constant attention to what people are saying vocally and
therefore can't go google something real quick or examine a config file.
 Maybe it's just me, but when it comes to paying attention to phone calls,
I can't do much else at the same time and process everything the way I need
to.

There's a lot more latitude in IRC meetings because I can easily scan the
scrollback if my attention was diverted for a couple of minutes while
testing a change, looking at something, etc.

To generalize very heavily: Skype is better for general things (and it's
great to hear everyone's voices, of course), but IRC is better for work
sessions.  At least in my experience.

Bottom line, I don't feel like I need to have an XSCE booted up during
Skype calls.  But I would during an IRC meeting.

The meeting methods are two totally different frames of mind for me and I
think they belong on different days.

Anna


On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Anish Mangal an...@activitycentral.comwrote:

 I think Tuesday is good. It will help allow some buffer time between the
 two meetings. If it doesn't work out well, we'll shift to Thursday after a
 couple of weeks.

 Okay?

 Cheers,
 Anish



 On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Adam Holt h...@laptop.org wrote:

 I'd much prefer Thursday on the same day as our voice meetings.  Or was
 this separated by sev days for a reason?


 On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Anish Mangal 
 an...@activitycentral.comwrote:

 Okay, so based on the responses I've received so far, all weekdays, and
 1600 UTC seems like the best time slot. So I'll propose we hold weekly XSCE
 meetings on

 Tuesdays, 1600 UTC / 0900 PDT / 1100 CDT / 1200 EDT

 If somebody has an issue with that time, please speak up :)

 Best,
 Anish



 On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Anish Mangal an...@activitycentral.com
  wrote:

 Yes exactly.
 On Aug 31, 2013 7:22 PM, Kevin Mark kevin.m...@verizon.net wrote:

 On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 12:56:29PM -0700, Anish Mangal wrote:
 +1
 We could use the services of xsceBOT :-)
 (uhps... sent the previous email from the wrong from: address :/
 - gmail compose
 sucks)

 I know some Fedora folks who used a meeting bot (based on supybot).
 You give a
 command like 'start meeting' and 'end meeting', it logs the meeting
 and sends
 it as an email or something and you can add bullet points.
 -k

 
 
   On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Anna [1]ascho...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 I know the policy for #schoolserver is that logs aren't kept,
 but in the interest
 of transparency, perhaps we could log official
 #schoolserver meetings.  One of
 the nice things about meeting on IRC vs. Skype is that IRC
 meetings axiomatically
 have transcripts.
 Anna
 
 On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Anish Mangal [2]
 an...@activitycentral.com
 wrote:
 
   Hi,
   For some time now, people (including me) have been mulling
 the idea of having
   XSCE development meetings on IRC in complement to the
 weekly skype calls.
   Conversation on the #schoolserver channel has gradually
 been growing too. I
   would like to propose that we start holding weekly regular
 planning and scrum
   meetings to discuss plans and ideas around XSCE
 development. I don't have any
   structure in mind yet, so we can largely go off where the
 community wants it
   to.
   I don't what's the best time for anybody who might be
 interested, so I created
   this: [3]http://whenisgood.net/q72f3wf
   Thoughts?
   Best,
   Anish
 
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Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] XSCE devel scrum on #schoolserver

2013-08-31 Thread Anna
I know the policy for #schoolserver is that logs aren't kept, but in the
interest of transparency, perhaps we could log official #schoolserver
meetings.  One of the nice things about meeting on IRC vs. Skype is that
IRC meetings axiomatically have transcripts.

Anna


On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Anish Mangal an...@activitycentral.comwrote:

 Hi,

 For some time now, people (including me) have been mulling the idea of
 having XSCE development meetings on IRC in complement to the weekly skype
 calls. Conversation on the *#schoolserver* channel has gradually been
 growing too. I would like to propose that we start holding weekly regular
 planning and scrum meetings to discuss plans and ideas around XSCE
 development. I don't have any structure in mind yet, so we can largely go
 off where the community wants it to.

 I don't what's the best time for anybody who might be interested, so I
 created this: http://whenisgood.net/q72f3wf

 Thoughts?

 Best,
 Anish



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Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] XSCE devel scrum on #schoolserver

2013-08-31 Thread Anish Mangal
+1

We could use the services of xsceBOT :-)


On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Anna ascho...@gmail.com wrote:

 I know the policy for #schoolserver is that logs aren't kept, but in the
 interest of transparency, perhaps we could log official #schoolserver
 meetings.  One of the nice things about meeting on IRC vs. Skype is that
 IRC meetings axiomatically have transcripts.

 Anna


 On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Anish Mangal 
 an...@activitycentral.comwrote:

 Hi,

 For some time now, people (including me) have been mulling the idea of
 having XSCE development meetings on IRC in complement to the weekly skype
 calls. Conversation on the *#schoolserver* channel has gradually been
 growing too. I would like to propose that we start holding weekly regular
 planning and scrum meetings to discuss plans and ideas around XSCE
 development. I don't have any structure in mind yet, so we can largely go
 off where the community wants it to.

 I don't what's the best time for anybody who might be interested, so I
 created this: http://whenisgood.net/q72f3wf

 Thoughts?

 Best,
 Anish






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