CSAppendicitis
Hi Any recommendations to get rid of mild symptoms of appendicitis? Thanks Peter
Re: CShypothyroid
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Christina Mattson tinamatt...@yahoo.comwrote: I think i am going to start growing my own wheatgrass for juicing, it is supposed to be a good form of chlorophil. I'll let everyone know how i decide to go about this. Meanwhile here's a pretty helpful link i found. http://nutritionholistic.com/2009/03/how-to-grow-wheatgrass-at-home/ Hi I've been growing and juicing wheatgrass for months - it's really easy to do. I don't like the taste of the juice on it's own but throw it in with some apple or other fruit/veg combo and it's fine. The CHI (Wigmore) also recommend putting a bunch of wheatgrass in your bath to absorb the chlorine if you don't have a whole house filter. cheers Kirsteen
Re: CSAppendicitis
My Dad drank olive oil and said it cleared his right up! Donna ACS Hi Any recommendations to get rid of mild symptoms of appendicitis? Thanks Peter
Re: CShypothyroid
Yes but she didn't give you any *proof* did she? I mean it is easy to say things like that and I know that nurses, doctors and vets, chemists, etc., are really opposed to alternative things without any proof at all. This includes silver which I *know* works. Did she also tell you all the bad side effects that mainstream medicine has too? I bet not. I take chlorella and have never noticed this happening--and I'm sure I would. Maybe if a person has other issues it could be a problem because as I say, we are all so different and the supplements I take, may be not right for someone else--or--they may need different dosage. I still think it is better to take things in whole food form though, and not concentrated reduced forms. This is not true for certain conditions though, so each case should be judged on its own merit, but as a rule of thumb I think its true. dee On 25 Mar 2010, at 20:01, needling around wrote: Hi Dee, I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this but chlorella isn't necessarily all it is touted either. Years ago I knew a woman who was an RN, LAc and colon hydrotherapist. We got into a conversation one day and she told me that for some people chlorella clumps together in the colon and can take more than 6 months to be discharged. She said she saw it all the time. PT - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:52 PM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShypothyroid
But would it be better to leave the mercury where it is in the first place? I don't know. dee On 25 Mar 2010, at 20:53, Alan Jones wrote: Also, Andy Cutler, author of Amalgam Illness, claims that chlorella can do more harm than good in mercury toxic people. It can help remove mercury from where it's at, but it doesn't eliminate it from the body, it can just get deposited elsewhere in the body. Alan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShypothyroid
urine alchemy therapee On 25 Mar 2010 at 17:57, needling around wrote about : Subject : Re: CShypothyroid If you want to remove mercury from the body you might want to visit with a Bowen practitioner. I have witnessed a copper penny turning silver after being dropped into the patient's urine after a treatment. Before treatment, same cup, the penny stayed copper. PT - Original Message - From: Alan Jones To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:53 PM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid Also, Andy Cutler, author of Amalgam Illness, claims that chlorella can do more harm than good in mercury toxic people. It can help remove mercury from where it's at, but it doesn't eliminate it from the body, it can just get deposited elsewhere in the body. Alan On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 3:01 PM, needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi Dee, I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this but chlorella isn't necessarily all it is touted either. Years ago I knew a woman who was an RN, LAc and colon hydrotherapist. We got into a conversation one day and she told me that for some people chlorella clumps together in the colon and can take more than 6 months to be discharged. She said she saw it all the time. PT - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:52 PM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid All this just reinforces my conviction that supplementing things like minerals is a very dodgy thing! One just doesn't *know* what mineral is deficient (accurately) and whether supplementing wouldn't imbalance things which causes much worse problems. And all things are synergistic with others and doctors 'normal' levels etc., are no good, because we are all so different in our needs. I think its better to take them in whole food form like kelp or chlorella. dee On 25 Mar 2010, at 15:25, sol wrote: Gina Moore wrote: Selenium can inhibit the conversion of T4 (storage hormone) to T3 (active hormone). I recently found a tidbit that may affect thyoid conversion problems for many..T4 to T3 conversion does not take place when there is vit A deficiency. sol -- T -- Alan Jones -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSTooth infections
Around about that age the 'milk' teeth are going to be lost and a whole new adult teeth should be forming and pushing through. Surely the baby teeth roots die anyway? Or are the roots re-used? Tony On 25 Mar 2010 at 18:49, Lisa wrote about : Subject : RE: CSTooth infections Thanks Steve, We are talking a 5 yr old so like you say - unsure if she'd be willing to try it. Also, I have not yet been confirmed that the root of the tooth (possibly teeth) may be dead. I think at that point.there truly isn't anything to be done, except kill the infection and wait for the teeth to come out on their own. Sad.for such a young girl! Lisa _ From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:09 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSTooth infections I have mostly tried various mouthwashes, CS, H2O2, H2O2 with DMSO, iodine, iodine with DMSO, oregano oil, cinnamon oil (if you try this, greatly dilute it!!!) and clove oil. But the best so far is 2 drops of grapefruit seed extract mixed with a enough water for a mouth rinse and with 10% DMSO. It does not taste good so you may have trouble getting a 5 yo to use it. If the cavity is where you can use a swab that would be good. After killing the infection you could try filling the cavity with dolomite (Chuck's discovery). - Steve N From: Lisa [mailto:blacksa...@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:17 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com; herbal_remed...@yahoogroups.com; alternative-medicine-fo...@yahoogroups.com; alternativeansw...@yahoogroups.com Subject: CSTooth infections Hi Everybody, A friend of mine has a daughter (5ish) and the dentist has told them that her two front teeth are infected and they should be pulled. I think it's a horrific idea and that they should battle the infection naturally and have the teeth come out on their own (baby teeth). I think some regularly dosing of EIS (colloidal silver) and/or hydrogen peroxide would do wonders here (gargling with either or even both, spitting out the hydrogen peroxide, swallowing the EIS). Comments? Lisa -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCell Food
I have this Bob, but forget to take it! dee On 26 Mar 2010, at 01:08, Bob Banever wrote: Renee, You can learn more about Cellfood on the following page. http://www.vke-cellfood.com/tech_info1.htm Yes it is made with deuterium (heavy water) but this is not radioactive! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAppendicitis
Olive oil is a really good anti bacterial agent. dee On 26 Mar 2010, at 10:46, Donna wrote: My Dad drank olive oil and said it cleared his right up! Donna ACS Hi Any recommendations to get rid of mild symptoms of appendicitis? Thanks Peter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSoff-topic: Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy
Thanks, Tony. You have given me lots to research. PT - Original Message - From: Tony Moody a...@new.co.za To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:24 AM Subject: Re: CSoff-topic: Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy PT , I used a fine bore injection needle squinched (tm) onto the silicon rubber tubing. that weighed itself down and produced a good stream of fine bubbles, but at low flow rate, else it popped off. Microbial activity. That sound like bull if you are using ozone. Would be true if bubbler stone was just left in the fish tank with nothing going through. The problem that I did have was that the stone broke up; probably due to the ozone attacking the glue holding the grit and the connector tube together. Another possible bubbler device could be something like a millipore inline IV filter which should produce fine bubbles. Don't know how long it would last tho. And the I guess it would have to be a fairly coarse one to allow reasonable flow of ozone, Ozone is VERY soluble in water and very rapidly absorbed, so any smallish bubble size should do, practically, unless the water depth is very shallow. One could also make a venturi device with the ozone as the driver and the water being sucked in and initimately mixed with the ozone; ( an airlift pump ) OK, Tony On 25 Mar 2010 at 13:18, needling around wrote about : Subject : Re: CSoff-topic: Hyperbaric Oxygen The question I have been wrestling with is how to decide on a good ozonator. For everything I have read I have read something just the opposite. For example, most come with stone bubblers but then I read that the stone bubblers break down and develop microbial activity? If I'm trying to get rid of microbes why would I use one of those??? Thanks. PT - Original Message - From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:04 PM Subject: RE: CSoff-topic: Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy It depends on what your Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy application is. If you need a total body equivalent to Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy, the closest I've seen is placing the body, except for the head, in a plastic bag and then piping ozone into the bag. You can buy bags specifically designed for this purpose or make your own. The process is scalable, e.g. you could place just a leg that needs treatment in a bag. If you are trying to just increase oxygen to the internal tissues in general, you could use ozonated oils or water. Or hydrogen peroxide therapy. Both of these have IV versions in addition to ingested liquid versions. H2O2 is also inhaled by some. Stabilized oxygen or MMS may be suitable for some applications. Stabilized oxygen is a 5% sodium chlorite solution. MMS is a 28% sodium chlorite solution that also uses an activator to convert more of the sodium chlorite to chlorine dioxide. Another option is ingesting plants or supplements that increase the oxygen carrying capability of the blood. I don't remember what plants they are off the top of my head. I don't have data on just how effective they are. I use some in my powdered plant supplement mix but not specifically for treatment of a problem. - Steve N From: Rusty Moncrief [mailto:sinso...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:35 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSoff-topic: Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy Is anyone aware of alternatives to Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy? (or something less than $5,000?) Thank you in advance, Rusty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShypothyroid
Do you need a special juicer for wheatgrass? I don't mind the taste but if I drink it straight it gives me a stomachache. PT - Original Message - From: Kirsteen Wright To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 6:28 AM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Christina Mattson tinamatt...@yahoo.com wrote: I think i am going to start growing my own wheatgrass for juicing, it is supposed to be a good form of chlorophil. I'll let everyone know how i decide to go about this. Meanwhile here's a pretty helpful link i found. http://nutritionholistic.com/2009/03/how-to-grow-wheatgrass-at-home/ Hi I've been growing and juicing wheatgrass for months - it's really easy to do. I don't like the taste of the juice on it's own but throw it in with some apple or other fruit/veg combo and it's fine. The CHI (Wigmore) also recommend putting a bunch of wheatgrass in your bath to absorb the chlorine if you don't have a whole house filter. cheers Kirsteen
RE: CSTooth infections
If the front teeth are lost too early there may not be the proper room left for the other teeth. Personally I would treat the infection and not be quick at pulling them as they are spacers for the next teeth. I would look for the emotional side of it. Being on the bladder meridian some anger, grief and fear might be connected. http://mcgrathdental.com/Health.html if you scroll down there is an interactive tooth section and you will see some other info on these front teeth. I would use some Australian Bush Flower Essences for infection and some homeopathic remedies. But taking into consideration the emotional side of things and regimen. Happy Healthy Kids by Ian White and the book Australian Bush Flower Healing by the same author would be helpful in finding the correct essences to help with the infection and on the emotional side. For the homeopathic remedies the homeopath would need to take the case (looking at the other symptoms she has physically and emotionally) Louise -Original Message- From: Tony Moody [mailto:a...@new.co.za] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 8:55 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSTooth infections Around about that age the 'milk' teeth are going to be lost and a whole new adult teeth should be forming and pushing through. Surely the baby teeth roots die anyway? Or are the roots re-used? Tony On 25 Mar 2010 at 18:49, Lisa wrote about : Subject : RE: CSTooth infections Thanks Steve, We are talking a 5 yr old so like you say - unsure if she'd be willing to try it. Also, I have not yet been confirmed that the root of the tooth (possibly teeth) may be dead. I think at that point.there truly isn't anything to be done, except kill the infection and wait for the teeth to come out on their own. Sad.for such a young girl! Lisa _ From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:09 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSTooth infections I have mostly tried various mouthwashes, CS, H2O2, H2O2 with DMSO, iodine, iodine with DMSO, oregano oil, cinnamon oil (if you try this, greatly dilute it!!!) and clove oil. But the best so far is 2 drops of grapefruit seed extract mixed with a enough water for a mouth rinse and with 10% DMSO. It does not taste good so you may have trouble getting a 5 yo to use it. If the cavity is where you can use a swab that would be good. After killing the infection you could try filling the cavity with dolomite (Chuck's discovery). - Steve N From: Lisa [mailto:blacksa...@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:17 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com; herbal_remed...@yahoogroups.com; alternative-medicine-fo...@yahoogroups.com; alternativeansw...@yahoogroups.com Subject: CSTooth infections Hi Everybody, A friend of mine has a daughter (5ish) and the dentist has told them that her two front teeth are infected and they should be pulled. I think it's a horrific idea and that they should battle the infection naturally and have the teeth come out on their own (baby teeth). I think some regularly dosing of EIS (colloidal silver) and/or hydrogen peroxide would do wonders here (gargling with either or even both, spitting out the hydrogen peroxide, swallowing the EIS). Comments? Lisa -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSsupplementing with minerals
One of the easiest ways to have balanced minerals (well it helps balance hormones and vitamins as well if in the urine) Is to potentize the urine (to 3X) and take it several times a day to help the body level them as if they are low they will help the body assimilate them better and if too high to eliminate them better) It is the same idea as cell salts but cheaper and does more. But most people in North America will take potentized poisons before their own urine potentized (well if they know they are using it) but most women use face cream with urine in it (well the urea part of it) and think nothing of it because they do not know that urine is a great hydrator and why it is often in moisturizing creams. Many parts of the world they use urine for its curative powers. Louise -Original Message- From: Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:58 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSsupplementing with minerals I agree-in principle-that mineral supplementation can be and is dodgy. Overdose is not simple to deal with, in my understanding. But considering that we are nearly all dreadfully deficient in iodine (what with all the halogens and soil mineral depletion and food processing) it is seemingly impossible to remove a deficiency using 'natural' foods. The iodine group at yahoo can give good information. The moderator(s) has/have access to one or two of the best iodine docs around. Also, the Brownstein book is most exceptional for info. imho pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE
Deborah, What you wrote was wrong ! Its people like you spreading misinformation that drive away the ones with knowledge, You do not understand that 2% Iodine is NOT lugol's, no mater what they call it. Lugols is and always has been 5% Potassium Iodide Iodine crystals. I corrected you in private ! (If you want to be exposed to the group fine!) . But I am more of a Herbalist than that. You should have thanked me for setting you straight. The Swanson's (Made by Crow) is not the Same thing as Lugol's 5 %, it may not mean anything to you personally, but someone who needs LUGOL's and uses Swanson's 2 % Will not get the expected results. Sorry your so stubborn. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZTel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 6:43:55 PM Subject: Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE I seen it for sale at www.swansonvitamins.com From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 10:06:58 AM Subject: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE Contact me if you need Real Lugol's 5 % Iodine. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. http://www.quailwoodherbal.com ~~ From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 6:59:41 AM Subject: Re: CSKidney Stones, Cure I think you better double check that one out, Kidney Stones are nothing to experiment with. Herbal treatment is the mildest and best I have ever used. It's just drinking a special Herbal Tea for about 3 days at the most rather than coffee. Http://www.quailwoodherbal.com Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 24, 2010 7:23:00 AM Subject: Re: CSKidney Stones I understand that magnesium is hydrophylic to the colon and thus pulls water out of the urinary tract and thus is not recommended in high doses for people with kidney disease. Can anyone explain, then why it is used for kidney stones? It would seem to lower the amount of water in the urinary tract and thus contribute to the stones. Thanks. PT - Original Message - From: Paul Bond To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:31 AM Subject: CSKidney Stones I would be very curious to know if all those things that clear kidney stones aren’t unusually high in Magnesium. Enough magnesium to match the calcium should do the trick. Also Vit B6 reduces oxylytic acid, which otherwise combines with calcium to produce calcium oxalate, which is present in stones usually. Paul B __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4969 (20100323) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE
Your a moron my intent was not for all this..take some of you Lugol's to teach you how to treat people if that is possible!!! From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 10:26:34 AM Subject: Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE Deborah, What you wrote was wrong ! Its people like you spreading misinformation that drive away the ones with knowledge, You do not understand that 2% Iodine is NOT lugol's, no mater what they call it. Lugols is and always has been 5% Potassium Iodide Iodine crystals. I corrected you in private ! (If you want to be exposed to the group fine!) . But I am more of a Herbalist than that. You should have thanked me for setting you straight. The Swanson's (Made by Crow) is not the Same thing as Lugol's 5 %, it may not mean anything to you personally, but someone who needs LUGOL's and uses Swanson's 2 % Will not get the expected results. Sorry your so stubborn. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZTel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 6:43:55 PM Subject: Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE I seen it for sale at www.swansonvitamins.com From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 10:06:58 AM Subject: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE Contact me if you need Real Lugol's 5 % Iodine. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. http://www.quailwoodherbal.com ~~ From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 6:59:41 AM Subject: Re: CSKidney Stones, Cure I think you better double check that one out, Kidney Stones are nothing to experiment with. Herbal treatment is the mildest and best I have ever used. It's just drinking a special Herbal Tea for about 3 days at the most rather than coffee. Http://www.quailwoodherbal.com Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 24, 2010 7:23:00 AM Subject: Re: CSKidney Stones I understand that magnesium is hydrophylic to the colon and thus pulls water out of the urinary tract and thus is not recommended in high doses for people with kidney disease. Can anyone explain, then why it is used for kidney stones? It would seem to lower the amount of water in the urinary tract and thus contribute to the stones. Thanks. PT - Original Message - From: Paul Bond To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:31 AM Subject: CSKidney Stones I would be very curious to know if all those things that clear kidney stones aren’t unusually high in Magnesium. Enough magnesium to match the calcium should do the trick. Also Vit B6 reduces oxylytic acid, which otherwise combines with calcium to produce calcium oxalate, which is present in stones usually. Paul B __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4969 (20100323) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
Re: CShypothyroid
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:12 PM, needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.netwrote: Do you need a special juicer for wheatgrass? I don't mind the taste but if I drink it straight it gives me a stomachache. . You need a macerating juicer not a centrifugal one. I have a Matstone. It's the same as either the Champion or the Oscar (I can't remember which) It was the cheapest electric one I could find, about £160. It's been great. You can also get hand wheatgrass juicers for under £30. They say that when you take it you're supposed to keep each mouthful in your mouth and roll it around as if you were 'chewing' it at least 30 times. I do 'chew' it but not as long as that. Apparently that encourages the saliva flow and makes it easier to digest. In fact they recommend you do that with all juices. It might help stop the stomach pains. Cheers Kirsteen
Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE
Dude, take a chill pill. My understanding is Lugols's is a 2:1 solution of potassium iodide and iodine, and can come in different concentrations. altcancer.com sells it in 2.2%, 3%, 7% and 15%. Take a deep breath and educate us on why Lugol's can ONLY be 5%. Alan On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com wrote: Deborah, What you wrote was wrong ! Its people like you spreading misinformation that drive away the ones with knowledge, You do not understand that *2% Iodine is NOT lugol's**,* no mater what they call it. Lugols is and always has been *5% Potassium Iodide Iodine crystals. I corrected you in private ! (If you want to be exposed to the group fine!) . But I am more of a Herbalist than that. You should have thanked me for setting you straight. The Swanson's (Made by Crow) is not the Same thing as Lugol's 5 %, it may not mean anything to you personally, but someone who needs LUGOL's and uses Swanson's 2 % Will not get the expected results.* *Sorry your so stubborn.* Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZTel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. -- *From:* Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thu, March 25, 2010 6:43:55 PM *Subject:* Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE I seen it for sale at www.swansonvitamins.com -- *From:* Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thu, March 25, 2010 10:06:58 AM *Subject:* CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE Contact me if you need Real Lugol's 5 % Iodine. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. http://www.quailwoodherbal.com ~~ -- *From:* Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thu, March 25, 2010 6:59:41 AM *Subject:* Re: CSKidney Stones, Cure I think you better double check that one out, Kidney Stones are nothing to experiment with. Herbal treatment is the mildest and best I have ever used. It's just drinking a special Herbal Tea for about 3 days at the most rather than coffee. Http://www.quailwoodherbal.com http://www.quailwoodherbal.com/ Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. -- *From:* needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wed, March 24, 2010 7:23:00 AM *Subject:* Re: CSKidney Stones I understand that magnesium is hydrophylic to the colon and thus pulls water out of the urinary tract and thus is not recommended in high doses for people with kidney disease. Can anyone explain, then why it is used for kidney stones? It would seem to lower the amount of water in the urinary tract and thus contribute to the stones. Thanks. PT - Original Message - *From:* Paul Bond pmb...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:31 AM *Subject:* CSKidney Stones I would be very curious to know if all those things that clear kidney stones aren’t unusually high in Magnesium. Enough magnesium to match the calcium should do the trick. Also Vit B6 reduces oxylytic acid, which otherwise combines with calcium to produce calcium oxalate, which is present in stones usually. Paul B __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4969 (20100323) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- Alan Jones
Re: CSTooth infections
To pull or not to pull baby teeth is a case by case thing. In MY case, my baby teeth were so strong that they deflected the permanent teeth, then cave man tech braces to straighten them, which permanently damaged the permanent teeth. The infection may well be useful to weaken the hold the baby teeth have... a clear sign that they SHOULD be pulled. ode At 02:16 PM 3/25/2010 -0400, you wrote: Hi Everybody, A friend of mine has a daughter (5ish) and the dentist has told them that her two front teeth are infected and they should be pulled. I think its a horrific idea and that they should battle the infection naturally and have the teeth come out on their own (baby teeth). I think some regularly dosing of EIS (colloidal silver) and/or hydrogen peroxide would do wonders here (gargling with either or even both, spitting out the hydrogen peroxide, swallowing the EIS). Comments? Lisa -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT - fog brain OVER LOS ANGELES
I've been following the chem trail con for over 10 years and have found VERY little of it to follow facts-in-context. The scientific method warped beyond belief with omissions, counting on ignorance and vilifications being used to distract from the lack of substance with engineered emotional triggers. 1] Learn something about what makes weather 2] Pay attention to WHO is doing tests, if they are testing the obvious, if they are eliminating the common to make something look uncommon...do they have an agenda and avoid it by pointing out another agenda [supposed or not] 3] Have they built a few [nasty] experiments of the past into an all too common trend now? 4] Do they use absolutist manipulation where if this is a little bit true, the stated opposite is absolutely true? IOW Context. You can MAKE anything *sound like* anything. Facts: It's never been a clean world. It's cleaner now that it has been in 100 years. For instance: 150 years ago people had virtually deforested the entire [civilized] planet including the New World, now 90% of the old forests are back. One of the main reasons people came to America is because they had denuded Europe. What saved the forests? Oil and coal...with..their own trade offs. Different pollutants, some worse, some better. Farming methods, as bad as they are and however better they could be, are far better than they ever have been for the soil. [if not for people] There are STILL former farmlands in the South East that won't even grow grass, only scrub oak and long tap root pines, burned to a crisp by king cotton. [and that was before chemical fertilizers and herbicides ] Seen a Dust Bowl lately? There was a huge war over bird crap that formed the nation of Chile, the driest place on Earth. In the 1800s, pesticides were mainly made from Arsenic and salts of Mercury Malformed frogs with bent spines and extra or missing hind limbs-have been documented since the 1700s At 07:50 AM 3/25/2010 -0700, you wrote: OK, Ode, you have an explanation and I get that and I am still thinking what about the statement in Bob's post that said residues had been discovered? I checked one of the sites and found this. NOW the quest, it seems, for anyone who might want to follow the trail is 'how true is this information in the paragraphs below?' And as Bob said, now might be a good time, anyway, to take CS/EIS regularly, as I did last night when interacting with someone who had a cold. There is pollution in the food, in the air, in the soil, in the waters and even in the carpets... ## There always has been, but now we have vacuum cleaners. Before oil coal and electricity, air quality was WORSE in the cities than it is now. If you've ever been in even a small community that heats with wood, as everyone once did, you'd know why...not that coal being burned with that technology is much better. Regardless of this data, it reinforces to me that CS is a vital tool in our drive to MAINTAIN WELLNESS [yes that is meant to be shouting ;-)... ## A useful tool, for sure, but that doesn't negate other tools. FACT is, the old days were MORE dangerous to a long healthy life. Geo-Engineering (Wikipedia def) is the artificial modification of Earth's climate systems. Geo-Engineering projects range from DECLASSIFIED experimentation (like iron particles being dumped into the oceans to attract algae, which sequesters carbon and, theoretically, slows global warming) to HIGHLY CLASSIFIED experimentation like AEROSOL SPRAYING (chemical spraying). ## An experiment is a mere experiment and has nothing to do with a general reality. *To be able to*, does not translate into *is being done* on a wide scale. The two most quickly advancing Geo-Engineering philosophies are carbon dioxide removal (CDR) and solar radiation management (SRM). ## Philosophies are just that. Ask a question, experiment for an answer, then judge if it's practical...in MOST cases, it isn't and won't be done on a large scale. Geo-Engineering also includes EMF/Atomspheric Heaters, like HAARP. # HAARP heats a very small part of the Ionosphere [not the entire atmosphere ] taking megawatts of power just to punch a tiny hole in it relative to the entire size...like trying to drain a flood though a pin hole. It's a boondoggle experiment born by Gov't to make use of a vast pocket of natural gas that's too far away from anything to transport it and a just another waste of money feeding grants in the hope that something useful may eventually come from it. Total EMF made by man is totally swamped by EMF from the sun and the rest of the galaxy. Very high artificial concentrations can be harmful, but are fairly easily avoided. The corona discharge alone should be enough to tell you that you don't want to be grounded and close to a million volt power line for very long. This website DOES NOT track the movements of citizen based geo-engineering projects, like
CSCan someone answer this question?
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Re: CSCan someone answer this question?
It's a trick question. The real deal CS is both ionic and particulate. And I don't believe that any silver product is made electronically -- I *think* all of it is made electrically. At least ours is. The way that question is worded makes me suspect that it's a plant. MA From: Kathy vano...@mrtc.com http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/showthread.php?t=97212
Re: CSCan someone answer this question?
It is unfortunate that there are sites like this giving out misinformation. Ionic silver is arguably *more* efficacious than colloidal silver - but in any case it is just *as* efficacious. dee On 26 Mar 2010, at 16:02, Kathy wrote: http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/showthread.php?t=97212 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCan someone answer this question?
a I never thought of that. I am so niave sometimes... I hope you are not right - makes one seriously wonder. Thanks for pointing that out. - Original Message - From: MaryAnn Helland To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:22 PM Subject: Re: CSCan someone answer this question? It's a trick question. The real deal CS is both ionic and particulate. And I don't believe that any silver product is made electronically -- I *think* all of it is made electrically. At least ours is. The way that question is worded makes me suspect that it's a plant. MA -- From: Kathy vano...@mrtc.com http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/showthread.php?t=97212
CSVitamin D reduces risks of flu and asthma!
The most recent study on vitamin D and the fluhttp://www.ajcn.org/cgi/rapidpdf/ajcn.2009.29094v1, published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition (March, 2010), shows that vitamin D reduces the risks of flu and asthma attacks significantly. Researchers from Japan conducted a double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled trial involving over 300 school children aged 6 to 15 years old. Eight physicians were involved in diagnosing the flu among these children, spread across 12 hospitals. They randomly allocated half the children to take 1200 IU per day of vitamin D-3 and the other half to take a placebo. The children took the supplements from the beginning of December, 2008 to the end of March, 2009. About ten percent (10.8%) of children in the vitamin D group developed Influenza A, whereas 18.6% developed the illness among the placebo group. This suggests that vitamin D cut the risk of developing the flu by nearly half. Many of the children in both groups began taking additional vitamin D supplements after the trial was underway, however. Excluding these children from the analysis showed that vitamin D cut the risk of flu by 64 percent! In a remarkable secondary finding, vitamin D appeared to nearly obliterate the risk of asthma attacks. Children who were previously diagnosed with asthma were six times more likely to have an asthma attack during the course of the study if they were in the placebo group. This suggests that vitamin D supplementation reduced the risk of getting an asthma attack by 83 percent. The authors cited previous work showing that the drugs marketed as Relenza and Tamiflu only reduce the incidence of flu by eight percent. The authors of the paper also cited other studies showing that probiotics (good bacteria) and a preparation of echinacea, propolis, and vitamin C helped reduce the risk of flu. Note: Another study published earlier showed vitamin D also reduced the risk of cold and suggested that the higher incidence of cold in winter might be, at least in part, due to deficiency of vitamin D in winter as people had less exposure to sun shine in those months. The darker and older is your skin, the more sun exposure you need to produce enough vitamin D. No safe amount of sun shine will produce enough vitamin D for some people—especially older people. Vitamin D deficiency is wide spread in the US, Europe and many other parts of the world. Many experts believe that the daily intake of Recommended Daily Allowance (RDA) of 400 IU of vitamin D is not enough for most people. It should rather be between 1000 and 2000 IU per day.
RE: CSCan someone answer this question?
I think this excerpt from http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/pdf2004/fpl_2004_dorau001.pdf pretty much answers the question of ionic silver vs silver particles: The mechanisms of the antimicrobial action of silver can be described as follows (17): 1. Silver ions form insoluble compounds in the cell wall with (and thereby inactivate) sulfhydryl groups, which are essential components of enzymes responsible for transmembranous energy metabolism and electrolyte transport. The result is a loss of fluids and electrolytes from the organisms, which dry out and die. 2. Silver ions block the respiratory chain of bacteria in the cytochrome oxidase and NADH-succinate- dehydroginase region. 3. Silver ions enter the cell and bind to bacterial DNA and bacterial spores. Silver can complex with electron donor groups that contain oxygen or nitrogen. Reversible binding of bases occurs without aggregation or disruption of the double helix structure of the cell nucleus. Intercalation of silver can lead to increased stability of the double helix. 4. Silver ions in low concentrations may penetrate a bacterial cell and cause structural damage to the cell envelope. Upon entering the cell, the molecule may dissociate, after which the silver binds to the DNA. 5. Metal ions, particularly silver, can also bond to phosphate groups, forming a positive dipole on the phosphate, followed by formation of a cyclic phosphate and cleavage of these molecules at the phosphodiester bond. 6. Silver DNA complexes occur at bases, which cause denaturation by displacing hydrogen bonds between adjacent nitrogens of purines and pyrimidines, thereby preventing replication. Note that all these mechanisms relate to solvated silver ions, Ag+. The antibacterial properties of any metal come from its ions, which are generated from the neutral metal (1 5). In the presence of oxygen, metallic silver can be bactericidal because silver (I) oxide is soluble enough to release free silver ions (18). When dealing with metallic silver, though, it is important to note that antimicrobial activity depends on the extent of the active silver surface. The exception may be that silver particles less than 10nm in size may inactivate some viruses by attaching directly to the viruses glycoprotein knobs. The occupation of the glycoprotein knobs by silver particles prevents the virus from being able to attach itself to a host cell and renders it harmless. See: http://www.jnanobiotechnology.com/content/3/1/6 It should be noted that ionic silver solutions also contain silver particles and therefore are effective against viruses as well bacteria and fungus. - Steve N From: Kathy [mailto:vano...@mrtc.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 9:03 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCan someone answer this question? http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/showthread.php?t=97212 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsupplementing with minerals
Louise wrote: potentize the urine (to 3X) and take it several times a day Can you post simple instructions on how to do this? Thanks, Dan On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Louise Larabie louis...@gozoom.ca wrote: One of the easiest ways to have balanced minerals (well it helps balance hormones and vitamins as well if in the urine) Is to potentize the urine (to 3X) and take it several times a day to help the body level them as if they are low they will help the body assimilate them better and if too high to eliminate them better) It is the same idea as cell salts but cheaper and does more. But most people in North America will take potentized poisons before their own urine potentized (well if they know they are using it) but most women use face cream with urine in it (well the urea part of it) and think nothing of it because they do not know that urine is a great hydrator and why it is often in moisturizing creams. Many parts of the world they use urine for its curative powers. Louise -Original Message- From: Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:58 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSsupplementing with minerals I agree-in principle-that mineral supplementation can be and is dodgy. Overdose is not simple to deal with, in my understanding. But considering that we are nearly all dreadfully deficient in iodine (what with all the halogens and soil mineral depletion and food processing) it is seemingly impossible to remove a deficiency using 'natural' foods. The iodine group at yahoo can give good information. The moderator(s) has/have access to one or two of the best iodine docs around. Also, the Brownstein book is most exceptional for info. imho pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE
I'd like to take the opportunity to point out that the contraction of you are is spelled you're not your... Dan On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: Your a moron my intent was not for all this..take some of you Lugol's to teach you how to treat people if that is possible!!! From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 10:26:34 AM Subject: Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE Deborah, What you wrote was wrong ! Its people like you spreading misinformation that drive away the ones with knowledge, You do not understand that 2% Iodine is NOT lugol's, no mater what they call it. Lugols is and always has been 5% Potassium Iodide Iodine crystals. I corrected you in private ! (If you want to be exposed to the group fine!) . But I am more of a Herbalist than that. You should have thanked me for setting you straight. The Swanson's (Made by Crow) is not the Same thing as Lugol's 5 %, it may not mean anything to you personally, but someone who needs LUGOL's and uses Swanson's 2 % Will not get the expected results. Sorry your so stubborn. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZTel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 6:43:55 PM Subject: Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE I seen it for sale at www.swansonvitamins.com From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 10:06:58 AM Subject: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE Contact me if you need Real Lugol's 5 % Iodine. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. http://www.quailwoodherbal.com ~~ From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 6:59:41 AM Subject: Re: CSKidney Stones, Cure I think you better double check that one out, Kidney Stones are nothing to experiment with. Herbal treatment is the mildest and best I have ever used. It's just drinking a special Herbal Tea for about 3 days at the most rather than coffee. Http://www.quailwoodherbal.com Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 24, 2010 7:23:00 AM Subject: Re: CSKidney Stones I understand that magnesium is hydrophylic to the colon and thus pulls water out of the urinary tract and thus is not recommended in high doses for people with kidney disease. Can anyone explain, then why it is used for kidney stones? It would seem to lower the amount of water in the urinary tract and thus contribute to the stones. Thanks. PT - Original Message - From: Paul Bond To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:31 AM Subject: CSKidney Stones I would be very curious to know if all those things that clear kidney stones aren’t unusually high in Magnesium. Enough magnesium to match the calcium should do the trick. Also Vit B6 reduces oxylytic acid, which otherwise combines with calcium to produce calcium oxalate, which is present in stones usually. Paul B __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4969 (20100323) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSodium Chlorite and Nail Fungus
Hi Marshall , I would love to try this protocol let me see if i got this right i need to mix 1 3/4 teaspoon of mms sodium chlorite powder into one cup of distilled water . 2 1/2 teaspoons of citric acid in separate cup of distilled water and when i want to soak feet mix one teaspoon of each into a single glass of water and let activate for 30 seconds then i pour this into one litre of water in a plastic tub for feet and soak for one hour per day for one week straight did i get this right Thanks Ted On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.comwrote: HCl is rather corrosive. I would suggest using citric acid for the activation (just like adding MMS to lemon juice) instead. This is what I figure: molecular weight of sodium chlorite = 90.44 molecular weight of chlorine dioxide = 67.45 molecular weight of citric acid = 192.14 So if we have a liter of water, we need to make 100 ppm which requires 100 mg of chlorine dioxide. This will require 100*90.44/67.75 mg of sodium chlorite and 100*192.75/67.25 mg of citric acid. Thus we need 133.5 mg of sodium chlorite and 286.6 mg of citric acid per liter of water. However most sodium chlorite is only 80% NaClO2, so we have to use 25% more, or 166.875 mg of commercially available stuff. Now measuring the effective density of both, I find that one level teaspoon of sodium chlorite weights 4.4 g and one level teaspoon of citric acid (NOW brand) weights 5.5 g. Thus using volume measurements I find that we need .038 teaspoon of sodium chlorite and .052 teaspoon of citric acid. Now if we multiply both of these by 48 (48 teaspoons) we get 1.824 and 2.495 teaspoons per cup of water. This can be approximated by using 1 + 1/2 + 1/4 teaspoon for the sodium chlorite, and 2 1/2 teaspoons of the citric acid in a cup of water each. If you bottle each of these, then use 1 teaspoon of each in a liter of water for the bath, that should come pretty close to what is needed for the 100 ppm of chlorine dioxide. As for proper activation, I would do what is said below, use 1 teaspoon each in a glass of water, wait 30 seconds for activation, then add water to make one liter for the final bath. Marshall Norton, Steve wrote: Very interesting. Thanks. - Steve N -Original Message- From: poast [mailto:po...@prodigy.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:07 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSKid does an experiment with CS and wins sxience fair award Hello Ode, You may find this interesting to read... http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=2006088790IA=US2006005024DISPLA Y=DESC Using a 5% sodium chlorite solution and 6% HCl as the activator you can mix up this solution by placing 5 ml (1 teaspoon) of 5% sodium chlorite in a glass and add 5 ml of the 6% HCl to activate it. Activation time is about 30 seconds. Next you add enough water to make 1 liter of total solution and use this for the bath for the nails (finger or toes). This solution is slightly stronger than the one listed in the patent, but it is still below any adverse effects for dermal exposure. The solution I have used ends up with 150 PPM free chlorine dioxide. As mentioned in the patent, chlorine d ioxide is capable of penetrating the nail to destroy the fungus living in it. It can also penetrate through the nail into the nail bed where it takes care of business there as well. To be effective, you need to stick to the 1 hour soak time, and repeat this every day for a week. The fungus is killed rather quickly, but the search and destroy mission takes a little longer. Tom -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCan someone answer this question?
That depends on what your definition of is is... Dan On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:22 AM, MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: It's a trick question. The real deal CS is both ionic and particulate. And I don't believe that any silver product is made electronically -- I *think* all of it is made electrically. At least ours is. The way that question is worded makes me suspect that it's a plant. MA From: Kathy vano...@mrtc.com http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/showthread.php?t=97212 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE
Oh sure Dan -- stir the pot!! lol MA From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com I'd like to take the opportunity to point out that the contraction of you are is spelled you're not your... On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: Your a moron my intent was not for all this..take some of you Lugol's to teach you how to treat people if that is possible!!! From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com Deborah, What you wrote was wrong ! Its people like you spreading misinformation that drive away the ones with knowledge, You do not understand that 2% Iodine is NOT lugol's, no mater what they call it. Lugols is and always has been 5% Potassium Iodide Iodine crystals. I corrected you in private ! (If you want to be exposed to the group fine!) . But I am more of a Herbalist than that. You should have thanked me for setting you straight. The Swanson's (Made by Crow) is not the Same thing as Lugol's 5 %, it may not mean anything to you personally, but someone who needs LUGOL's and uses Swanson's 2 % Will not get the expected results. Sorry your so stubborn. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZTel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com I seen it for sale at www.swansonvitamins.com From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 10:06:58 AM Subject: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE Contact me if you need Real Lugol's 5 % Iodine. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. http://www.quailwoodherbal.com ~~ From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 6:59:41 AM Subject: Re: CSKidney Stones, Cure I think you better double check that one out, Kidney Stones are nothing to experiment with. Herbal treatment is the mildest and best I have ever used. It's just drinking a special Herbal Tea for about 3 days at the most rather than coffee. Http://www.quailwoodherbal.com Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 24, 2010 7:23:00 AM Subject: Re: CSKidney Stones I understand that magnesium is hydrophylic to the colon and thus pulls water out of the urinary tract and thus is not recommended in high doses for people with kidney disease. Can anyone explain, then why it is used for kidney stones? It would seem to lower the amount of water in the urinary tract and thus contribute to the stones. Thanks. PT - Original Message - From: Paul Bond To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:31 AM Subject: CSKidney Stones I would be very curious to know if all those things that clear kidney stones aren’t unusually high in Magnesium. Enough magnesium to match the calcium should do the trick. Also Vit B6 reduces oxylytic acid, which otherwise combines with calcium to produce calcium oxalate, which is present in stones usually. Paul B __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4969 (20100323) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCan someone answer this question?
*Your* on a roll, Dan! Bwaa-haaa... MA From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com That depends on what your definition of is is... On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:22 AM, MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: It's a trick question. The real deal CS is both ionic and particulate. And I don't believe that any silver product is made electronically -- I *think* all of it is made electrically. At least ours is. The way that question is worded makes me suspect that it's a plant. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE
But MA; that's not spelled pot, it's spelled pout! g On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 10:52 -0700, MaryAnn Helland wrote: Oh sure Dan -- stir the pot!! lol MA __ From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com I'd like to take the opportunity to point out that the contraction of you are is spelled you're not your... On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: Your a moron my intent was not for all this..take some of you Lugol's to teach you how to treat people if that is possible!!! From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com Deborah, What you wrote was wrong ! Its people like you spreading misinformation that drive away the ones with knowledge, You do not understand that 2% Iodine is NOT lugol's, no mater what they call it. Lugols is and always has been 5% Potassium Iodide Iodine crystals. I corrected you in private ! (If you want to be exposed to the group fine!) . But I am more of a Herbalist than that. You should have thanked me for setting you straight. The Swanson's (Made by Crow) is not the Same thing as Lugol's 5 %, it may not mean anything to you personally, but someone who needs LUGOL's and uses Swanson's 2 % Will not get the expected results. Sorry your so stubborn. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZTel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com I seen it for sale at www.swansonvitamins.com From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 10:06:58 AM Subject: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE Contact me if you need Real Lugol's 5 % Iodine. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. http://www.quailwoodherbal.com ~~ From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 6:59:41 AM Subject: Re: CSKidney Stones, Cure I think you better double check that one out, Kidney Stones are nothing to experiment with. Herbal treatment is the mildest and best I have ever used. It's just drinking a special Herbal Tea for about 3 days at the most rather than coffee. Http://www.quailwoodherbal.com Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 24, 2010 7:23:00 AM Subject: Re: CSKidney Stones I understand that magnesium is hydrophylic to the colon and thus pulls water out of the urinary tract and thus is not recommended in high doses for people with kidney disease. Can anyone explain, then why it is used for kidney stones? It would seem to lower the amount of water in the urinary tract and thus contribute to the stones. Thanks. PT - Original Message - From: Paul Bond To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:31 AM Subject: CSKidney Stones I would be very curious to know if all those things that clear kidney stones aren’t unusually high in Magnesium. Enough magnesium to match the calcium should do the trick. Also Vit B6 reduces oxylytic acid, which otherwise combines with calcium to produce calcium oxalate, which is present in stones usually. Paul B __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4969 (20100323) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCan someone answer this question?
Brilliant Steve! dee On 26 Mar 2010, at 17:05, Norton, Steve wrote: I think this excerpt from http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/pdf2004/fpl_2004_dorau001.pdf pretty much answers the question of ionic silver vs silver particles: The mechanisms of the antimicrobial action of silver can be described as follows (17): 1. Silver ions form insoluble compounds in the cell wall with (and thereby inactivate) sulfhydryl groups, which are essential components of enzymes responsible for transmembranous energy metabolism and electrolyte transport. The result is a loss of fluids and electrolytes from the organisms, which dry out and die. 2. Silver ions block the respiratory chain of bacteria in the cytochrome oxidase and NADH-succinate- dehydroginase region. 3. Silver ions enter the cell and bind to bacterial DNA and bacterial spores. Silver can complex with electron donor groups that contain oxygen or nitrogen. Reversible binding of bases occurs without aggregation or disruption of the double helix structure of the cell nucleus. Intercalation of silver can lead to increased stability of the double helix. 4. Silver ions in low concentrations may penetrate a bacterial cell and cause structural damage to the cell envelope. Upon entering the cell, the molecule may dissociate, after which the silver binds to the DNA. 5. Metal ions, particularly silver, can also bond to phosphate groups, forming a positive dipole on the phosphate, followed by formation of a cyclic phosphate and cleavage of these molecules at the phosphodiester bond. 6. Silver DNA complexes occur at bases, which cause denaturation by displacing hydrogen bonds between adjacent nitrogens of purines and pyrimidines, thereby preventing replication. Note that all these mechanisms relate to solvated silver ions, Ag+. The antibacterial properties of any metal come from its ions, which are generated from the neutral metal (1 5). In the presence of oxygen, metallic silver can be bactericidal because silver (I) oxide is soluble enough to release free silver ions (18). When dealing with metallic silver, though, it is important to note that antimicrobial activity depends on the extent of the active silver surface. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCan someone answer this question?
;-)) PS. I'm pretty sure CS is a metal, not a plant... On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:54 PM, MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: *Your* on a roll, Dan! Bwaa-haaa... MA From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com That depends on what your definition of is is... On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:22 AM, MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: It's a trick question. The real deal CS is both ionic and particulate. And I don't believe that any silver product is made electronically -- I *think* all of it is made electrically. At least ours is. The way that question is worded makes me suspect that it's a plant. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSodium Chlorite and Nail Fungus
That is what I came up up with. I would use distilled water though. I might have made a mistake in the math, it is possible, but that is I believe correct. Beware of the sodium chlorite cup of solution, it is likely strong enough to cause irritation or burn your skin. Marshall ted mozell wrote: Hi Marshall , I would love to try this protocol let me see if i got this right i need to mix 1 3/4 teaspoon of mms sodium chlorite powder into one cup of distilled water . 2 1/2 teaspoons of citric acid in separate cup of distilled water and when i want to soak feet mix one teaspoon of each into a single glass of water and let activate for 30 seconds then i pour this into one litre of water in a plastic tub for feet and soak for one hour per day for one week straight did i get this right Thanks Ted On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: HCl is rather corrosive. I would suggest using citric acid for the activation (just like adding MMS to lemon juice) instead. This is what I figure: molecular weight of sodium chlorite = 90.44 molecular weight of chlorine dioxide = 67.45 molecular weight of citric acid = 192.14 So if we have a liter of water, we need to make 100 ppm which requires 100 mg of chlorine dioxide. This will require 100*90.44/67.75 mg of sodium chlorite and 100*192.75/67.25 mg of citric acid. Thus we need 133.5 mg of sodium chlorite and 286.6 mg of citric acid per liter of water. However most sodium chlorite is only 80% NaClO2, so we have to use 25% more, or 166.875 mg of commercially available stuff. Now measuring the effective density of both, I find that one level teaspoon of sodium chlorite weights 4.4 g and one level teaspoon of citric acid (NOW brand) weights 5.5 g. Thus using volume measurements I find that we need .038 teaspoon of sodium chlorite and .052 teaspoon of citric acid. Now if we multiply both of these by 48 (48 teaspoons) we get 1.824 and 2.495 teaspoons per cup of water. This can be approximated by using 1 + 1/2 + 1/4 teaspoon for the sodium chlorite, and 2 1/2 teaspoons of the citric acid in a cup of water each. If you bottle each of these, then use 1 teaspoon of each in a liter of water for the bath, that should come pretty close to what is needed for the 100 ppm of chlorine dioxide. As for proper activation, I would do what is said below, use 1 teaspoon each in a glass of water, wait 30 seconds for activation, then add water to make one liter for the final bath. Marshall Norton, Steve wrote: Very interesting. Thanks. - Steve N -Original Message- From: poast [mailto:po...@prodigy.net mailto:po...@prodigy.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:07 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSKid does an experiment with CS and wins sxience fair award Hello Ode, You may find this interesting to read... http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=2006088790IA=US2006005024DISPLA http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=2006088790IA=US2006005024DISPLA Y=DESC Using a 5% sodium chlorite solution and 6% HCl as the activator you can mix up this solution by placing 5 ml (1 teaspoon) of 5% sodium chlorite in a glass and add 5 ml of the 6% HCl to activate it. Activation time is about 30 seconds. Next you add enough water to make 1 liter of total solution and use this for the bath for the nails (finger or toes). This solution is slightly stronger than the one listed in the patent, but it is still below any adverse effects for dermal exposure. The solution I have used ends up with 150 PPM free chlorine dioxide. As mentioned in the patent, chlorine d ioxide is capable of penetrating the nail to destroy the fungus living in it. It can also penetrate through the nail into the nail bed where it takes care of business there as well. To be effective, you need to stick to the 1 hour soak time, and repeat this every day for a week. The fungus is killed rather quickly, but the search and destroy mission takes a little longer. Tom -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html
Re: CShypothyroid
Yes, but they don't have to be expensive... http://tinyurl.com/ycghd4s . Chuck No matter how much money you give a homeless person for a cup of tea, you never get that tea. On 3/26/2010 9:12:08 AM, needling around (ptf2...@bellsouth.net) wrote: Do you need a special juicer for wheatgrass? I don't mind the taste but if I drink it straight it gives me a stomachache. PT - Original Message - From: Kirsteen Wright [link: mailto:kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com] To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 6:28 AM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShypothyroid
That kind of looks like my Grandmother's old meat grinder. I wonder if that would work... not as long in the snout. PT - Original Message - From: cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 3:58 PM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid Yes, but they don't have to be expensive... http://tinyurl.com/ycghd4s . Chuck No matter how much money you give a homeless person for a cup of tea, you never get that tea. On 3/26/2010 9:12:08 AM, needling around (ptf2...@bellsouth.net) wrote: Do you need a special juicer for wheatgrass? I don't mind the taste but if I drink it straight it gives me a stomachache. PT - Original Message - From: Kirsteen Wright [link: mailto:kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com] To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 6:28 AM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CShypothyroid
I use an electric meat grinder and then use a manual press to get all the juice. But it is a setup meant for larger quantities. Sort of a poor man's version of this: http://www.nwjcal.com/features.htm - Steve N -Original Message- From: needling around [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:11 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CShypothyroid That kind of looks like my Grandmother's old meat grinder. I wonder if that would work... not as long in the snout. PT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
FW: CSCan someone answer this question?
Kathy, Are you a member of the Tree of Liberty? I drafted a response but of course you need to register to post. So I registered and now have to wait for a moderator to be assigned. Who knows when that may be. If you are a member, I can provide the response to you and you can post it if you like. - Steve N From: Kathy [mailto:vano...@mrtc.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 9:03 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCan someone answer this question? http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/showthread.php?t=97212 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSsupplementing with minerals
Making a nosode you get some urine (more of a tonic at low potency). ONE drop enough to start with (midstreem urine). This is the liquid method put in a drop in a remedy bottle (one ounce) and add 10 drops of distilled water. Succuss (hit on the heal or a book like the phone book) one hundred times. Add 100 drops of distilled water Succuss 100 times. Now leave 10% of 2X in the bottle and fill with 25% of the bottle with Vodka or Brandy to preserve it and fill with distilled water to the shoulder of the bottle and succuss 30 times and you will have a dosage bottle of 3X urine. I hit the heal of my hand once between each dose. Making a nosode of infected urine for treatment of an infection is different instructions, the above is for mineral/hormone balancing and sort of a tonic. Louise -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:08 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSsupplementing with minerals Louise wrote: potentize the urine (to 3X) and take it several times a day Can you post simple instructions on how to do this? Thanks, Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCan someone answer this question?
You're quite right Dee, with a correction if I may, ionic silver is NOT, quote: ...arguably *more* efficacious or ...it is just *as* efficacious end quotes, it IS the ions that do most of the 'work'. Pick up any reputable book or seek out appropriate published literature on the subject and one will get an understanding of 'which' does 'what' and 'how' and 'why'. Those who suggest particles are the 'in thing' while bagging out ions is just plain BS aimed at those who are mostly misguided and/or have read little. And all marketers are out there hustling to make a quid off those souls who are not well read. Particles have a place, and do a 'job' also, but it's the positively charged silver ions that are the most important for most circumstances. N. Subject: Re: CSCan someone answer this question? From: d...@deetroy.org Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:31:54 + To: silver-list@eskimo.com It is unfortunate that there are sites like this giving out misinformation. Ionic silver is arguably *more* efficacious than colloidal silver - but in any case it is just *as* efficacious. dee On 26 Mar 2010, at 16:02, Kathy wrote: http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/showthread.php?t=97212 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com _ Link all your email accounts and social updates with Hotmail. Find out now. http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/oneinbox?ocid=T162MSN05A0710G
Re: CSSodium Chlorite Source
Hello Steve, I get my NaClO2 powder from GFS chemicals. It comes in 2.5 kg bottles, and I go through about 5 kg a year unless I have some special projects going on. I believe the price was around $200 for 5 kg with shipping adding another $30 for the total 5 kg package. http://www.gfschemicals.com/search_prm_p.aspx?whichsearch=EntireSitesearchcontent=sodium%20chlorite Tom - Original Message - From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:05 PM Subject: CSSodium Chlorite Source I just came across a relatively inexpensive source for Sodium Chlorite or MMS if you are looking for larger quantities. They are located in Florida. The minimum shipping cost to CA is $14 but the cost doesn't go up too quickly when you add more items. My last purchase of powdered Sodium Chlorite was from a producer in Canada and the cost was significantly higher. Does anyone know of a lower cost source? I need to get some more. BTW, their bentonite clay is inexpensive too but I don't know what the quality is like. http://sodium-chlorite-supplier.com/order.html?gclid=CLjju42i0qACFQhYbQo dXBIu0Q - Steve N -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE Swanson's is Not 5% Read the label It's 21/2 % Iodine
It's 2%. Bruce A. On 3/26/2010 1:47 AM, Tel Tofflemire wrote: Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. *From:* Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thu, March 25, 2010 6:43:55 PM *Subject:* Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE I seen it for sale at www.swansonvitamins.com http://www.swansonvitamins.com *From:* Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thu, March 25, 2010 10:06:58 AM *Subject:* CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE Contact me if you need Real Lugol's 5 % Iodine. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. http://www.quailwoodherbal.com ~~ *From:* Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thu, March 25, 2010 6:59:41 AM *Subject:* Re: CSKidney Stones, Cure I think you better double check that one out, Kidney Stones are nothing to experiment with. Herbal treatment is the mildest and best I have ever used. It's just drinking a special Herbal Tea for about 3 days at the most rather than coffee. Http://www.quailwoodherbal.com http://www.quailwoodherbal.com/ Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. *From:* needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wed, March 24, 2010 7:23:00 AM *Subject:* Re: CSKidney Stones I understand that magnesium is hydrophylic to the colon and thus pulls water out of the urinary tract and thus is not recommended in high doses for people with kidney disease. Can anyone explain, then why it is used for kidney stones? It would seem to lower the amount of water in the urinary tract and thus contribute to the stones. Thanks. PT - Original Message - *From:* Paul Bond mailto:pmb...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:31 AM *Subject:* CSKidney Stones I would be very curious to know if all those things that clear kidney stones aren’t unusually high in Magnesium. Enough magnesium to match the calcium should do the trick. Also Vit B6 reduces oxylytic acid, which otherwise combines with calcium to produce calcium oxalate, which is present in stones usually. Paul B __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4969 (20100323) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
Re: CSSodium Chlorite and Nail Fungus
Hello Marshall, Your method will be ineffective because it is not strong enough. I believe I followed your instructions properly, but please double check my efforts. I mixed 1.75 teaspoons of sodium chlorite powder in 8 ounces of water. I then mixed 2.5 teaspoons of citric acid powder in 8 ounces of water. I then placed 1 teaspoon of each in a glass, let it activate, then added enough water to make 1 liter. When I measure the sodium chlorite solution I find that it is a 2% solution. When I measure the citric acid solution I find that it is a 5% solution. When I mix a teaspoon of each together, let them activate, and add to make a liter of foot bath solution, I end up with about 6 PPM free chlorine dioxide. 100 - 150 PPM free chlorine dioxide is needed to penetrate the nail and nail bed, so 6 PPM is going to fall short of the goal. Sodium chlorite releases chlorine dioxide when its PH is lowered. The reason HCl is used in this case is because we want to release all of the available chlorine dioxide as free chlorine dioxide. I believe all of the HCl is used up in the reaction, so we don't really have to worry about HCl in the final solution. HCl is capable of reducing the PH of the sodium chlorite to a point where all of the available chlorine dioxide is released as free chlorine dioxide. In this case, the free chlorine dioxide is needed in order to kill off the fungus infection. We don't need a residual, we need penetrating power during the bath. The bath is repeated several times to make sure the fungus is eliminated. Citric acid is used when you are interested in making chlorous acid and only releasing a small portion of the available chlorine dioxide as free chlorine dioxide. When you add 5 ml of 5% citric acid to 2% sodium chlorite, the PH is driven down to about 2.8 releasing about 10% of the available chlorine dioxide as free chlorine dioxide. This is pretty much what happened. Now, if citric acid is all that you have, you can still achieve 100 PPM free chlorine dioxide. In order to do this you would need about 83 ml, or about 17 teaspoons, of each. 17 teaspoons would be 85 ml and that would give you a concentration of 1020 PPM available chlorine dioxide and 102 PPM of that would be free chlorine dioxide. This would put you in the range that would work with nail fungus. Tom - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:07 PM Subject: Re: CSSodium Chlorite and Nail Fungus HCl is rather corrosive. I would suggest using citric acid for the activation (just like adding MMS to lemon juice) instead. This is what I figure: molecular weight of sodium chlorite = 90.44 molecular weight of chlorine dioxide = 67.45 molecular weight of citric acid = 192.14 So if we have a liter of water, we need to make 100 ppm which requires 100 mg of chlorine dioxide. This will require 100*90.44/67.75 mg of sodium chlorite and 100*192.75/67.25 mg of citric acid. Thus we need 133.5 mg of sodium chlorite and 286.6 mg of citric acid per liter of water. However most sodium chlorite is only 80% NaClO2, so we have to use 25% more, or 166.875 mg of commercially available stuff. Now measuring the effective density of both, I find that one level teaspoon of sodium chlorite weights 4.4 g and one level teaspoon of citric acid (NOW brand) weights 5.5 g. Thus using volume measurements I find that we need .038 teaspoon of sodium chlorite and .052 teaspoon of citric acid. Now if we multiply both of these by 48 (48 teaspoons) we get 1.824 and 2.495 teaspoons per cup of water. This can be approximated by using 1 + 1/2 + 1/4 teaspoon for the sodium chlorite, and 2 1/2 teaspoons of the citric acid in a cup of water each. If you bottle each of these, then use 1 teaspoon of each in a liter of water for the bath, that should come pretty close to what is needed for the 100 ppm of chlorine dioxide. As for proper activation, I would do what is said below, use 1 teaspoon each in a glass of water, wait 30 seconds for activation, then add water to make one liter for the final bath. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRE: LUGO'L 5 % IODINE
;-) From: Malcolm s...@asis.com On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 10:52 -0700, MaryAnn Helland wrote: Oh sure Dan -- stir the pot!! lol __ From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com I'd like to take the opportunity to point out that the contraction of you are is spelled you're not your... On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: Your a moron my intent was not for all this..take some of you Lugol's to teach you how to treat people if that is possible!!! The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com But MA; that's not spelled pot, it's spelled pout! g
Re: CSCan someone answer this question?
Hm -- you could be right.. :-) From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com ;-)) PS. I'm pretty sure CS is a metal, not a plant... On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:54 PM, MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: *Your* on a roll, Dan! Bwaa-haaa... From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com That depends on what your definition of is is... On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:22 AM, MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: It's a trick question. The real deal CS is both ionic and particulate. And I don't believe that any silver product is made electronically -- I *think* all of it is made electrically. At least ours is. The way that question is worded makes me suspect that it's a plant. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
