Re: CSBurns

[Renee]

I bought the first one in a plastic bottle.  I have bought nano-silver at a
health show in a plastic bottle.   It did make it SO much easier on my poor
baby because putting that aloe on I had to touch the burn and it hurt him so
much.  I was trying to think of some better way to apply it when it popped
into my head that a spray of CS would be great, as I'd read that CS was so
good for burns.  I'd never used it before, so actually my first experience
with CS is what convinced me to never be without it.  

The spray meant I didn't have to touch his burns, and the CS helped take the
pain away more than aloe did, plus it healed it I'd say 5 times  faster than
aloe!  Third degree burns totally healed in 2 weeks.  Of course this was a
young kitten so cell growth may have been faster than it would be for an
adult, still it was impressive.  Especially seeing it return so smooth and
normal colored.  

Samala,
Renee
 
 
---Original Message---
 
 
Now that's a good idea to have some in a spray bottle - do you use a plastic
spray bottle? Is it OK to have the CS in plastic (my stock is in a glass
bottle)
 
 

CSRingworm

[beitharmony]

Hi,
My cat has ringworm, everything I've tried has not succeeded. Maybe my 
CS is not strong enough. Now she has 2 patches on her neck. I need a 
solution quick because she's going mad with the itching - as soon as it 
has only begun healing - she digs in again. An E collar won't help as 
she goes outside. Been there done that. Is there SUPER DUPER HEAVY DUTY 
CS for sale by anyone here that people can vouch for? Because you just 
might have a customer.


Joy


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Re: CSBurns

[needling around]

Although many people use aloe for burns it is astringent so I don't know why.  
Lavender oil is much more effective, keeps the skin soft and moist and also 
engenders healing.  I would think a combination of CS and lavender oil would do 
wonders for burns.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: Renee 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 8:15 AM
  Subject: Re: CSBurns


I bought the first one in a plastic bottle.  I have bought nano-silver 
at a health show in a plastic bottle.   It did make it SO much easier on my 
poor baby because putting that aloe on I had to touch the burn and it hurt him 
so much.  I was trying to think of some better way to apply it when it popped 
into my head that a spray of CS would be great, as I'd read that CS was so good 
for burns.  I'd never used it before, so actually my first experience with CS 
is what convinced me to never be without it.  

The spray meant I didn't have to touch his burns, and the CS helped 
take the pain away more than aloe did, plus it healed it I'd say 5 times  
faster than aloe!  Third degree burns totally healed in 2 weeks.  Of course 
this was a young kitten so cell growth may have been faster than it would be 
for an adult, still it was impressive.  Especially seeing it return so smooth 
and normal colored.  

Samala,
Renee


---Original Message---


Now that's a good idea to have some in a spray bottle - do you use a 
plastic spray bottle? Is it OK to have the CS in plastic (my stock is in a 
glass bottle)

   
  
   

Re: CSRingworm

[Paul Steel]

Might want to try some diatomaceous earth
 
http://www.earthworkshealth.com/


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From: beitharmony beitharm...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, July 4, 2010 8:24:32 AM
Subject: CSRingworm

Hi,
My cat has ringworm, everything I've tried has not succeeded. Maybe my CS is 
not strong enough. Now she has 2 patches on her neck. I need a solution quick 
because she's going mad with the itching - as soon as it has only begun healing 
- she digs in again. An E collar won't help as she goes outside. Been there 
done that. Is there SUPER DUPER HEAVY DUTY CS for sale by anyone here that 
people can vouch for? Because you just might have a customer.

Joy


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Re: CSHospital stay

[Kirsteen Wright]

On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 11:48 PM, brick...@aol.com wrote:

  I am scheduled for knee replacement surgery in a couple of weeks. I would
 like to bring in some EIS. Dee used an empty drinking bottle with her name
 on the lid. How do you get the bottle past the nurses? I also would like to
 bring in some B-12.


I was in hospital several times recently. My son brought me in bottled
spring water as the hospital water tasted foul. I kept these on top of my
locker. I also got him to fill a smaller water bottle with EIS and I also
kept this on my locker and regularly took a swig from this. no one even
noticed.

In my toilet bag I also kept a spray bottle of EIS which I used on my face
and hands all the time.

Funnily enough the ward ended up closed for new admissions because of an
outbreak of diarrhoea and vomiting among patients and staff. They said it
was the winter vomiting virus (in June???) but several patients thought it
was Cdiff. I upped the intake of EIS and had absolutely no problems.

Cheers
Kirsteen

Re: CSHospital stay

[needling around]

What is Cdiff?  
Thanks.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kirsteen Wright 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 8:50 AM
  Subject: Re: CSHospital stay




  On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 11:48 PM, brick...@aol.com wrote:

I am scheduled for knee replacement surgery in a couple of weeks. I would 
like to bring in some EIS. Dee used an empty drinking bottle with her name on 
the lid. How do you get the bottle past the nurses? I also would like to bring 
in some B-12.

  I was in hospital several times recently. My son brought me in bottled spring 
water as the hospital water tasted foul. I kept these on top of my locker. I 
also got him to fill a smaller water bottle with EIS and I also kept this on my 
locker and regularly took a swig from this. no one even noticed. 

  In my toilet bag I also kept a spray bottle of EIS which I used on my face 
and hands all the time.

  Funnily enough the ward ended up closed for new admissions because of an 
outbreak of diarrhoea and vomiting among patients and staff. They said it was 
the winter vomiting virus (in June???) but several patients thought it was 
Cdiff. I upped the intake of EIS and had absolutely no problems.

  Cheers
  Kirsteen

Re: CSBurns

[Lin]

Several weeks ago one of my cats jumped up onto a hot closed barbeque lid.  I 
rushed to put cs on his feet with a cotton pad, but he wasn't having any of it. 
 So, I poured some into the bottom of a plastic cat carrier (about 1/2 inch 
deep) and put him in there for 10 minutes.  After 2 minutes he settled down and 
just stood in the cs.   That was the only treatment he got.  His feet didnt' 
blister except one small spot up between two of his pads on one foot.  You have 
to think that if it blistered up there, that the bottom of his pads would have 
really been bad had we not treated him right away with cs.

Lin

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jane MacRoss 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 10:47 PM
  Subject: Re: CSBurns


  Now that's a good idea to have some in a spray bottle - do you use a plastic 
spray bottle? Is it OK to have the CS in plastic (my stock is in a glass bottle)


  Jane 

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  ~The Highest Field of Energy Healing you now!~
- Original Message - 
From: Renee 

  After the third day I smacked my forehead and ran and got CS in a 
spray bottle.  The relief was almost immediate, and new skin started to grow 
back within a few days, from the outside edges in.  You could just see 
improvement every day.  It 2 weeks it was totally healed over.  Hardly a scar 
at all on the half inch side--just a fine line now.  The other side, where the 
burn was over an inch wide, there is about a half inch wide scar at the top 
which narrows down to almost nothing at his 'knee' area down to his ankle.  The 
one side you have to part his hair to even see the scar, on the bad side you 
can see the scar as no hair ever grew back (he's 7 now) but the skin over the 
scar is totally smooth and normal color.  Not puckered like normal burn scar 
tissue.

  I would never be without CS after that, and bought my own CS maker 
after seeing what it did for him.

  Samala,
  Renee 

 

 

Re: CSHospital stay

[Kirsteen Wright]

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 1:54 PM, needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.netwrote:

  What is Cdiff?

   Clostridium Difficile. There have been several outbreaks in hospitals
here.  It can be fatal and often is in the elderly. I've no way of knowing
if that's what it was but some of the patients who had experience of it
before said that's what it felt like. All I know is the EIS was a life
saver. I was so glad I had it.

Cheers
Kirsteen

RE: CSRingworm

[Louise Larabie]

But ringworm is a fungus and change in diet (getting rid of carbs) would be
my number one priority and using some diluted apple cider vinegar
(unpasteurized type) yes the cat will smell like a salad till it dries but
this would be more healing than DE that is use for actual worms.

Louise

From: Paul Steel [mailto:pste...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 8:42 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSRingworm

Might want to try some diatomaceous earth
 
http://www.earthworkshealth.com/
 
 
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Re: CSBurns

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Maybe because it encourages stem cell growth whilst discouraging bacterial 
infection.  dee

On 4 Jul 2010, at 04:53, Jane MacRoss wrote:

 I poured boiling stewed apples (accidentally)  over my hand 2 hours ago - 
 splashed CS over the area and although it stung for 90 minutes now there is 
 no pain and no indication of burns - it just puzzles me as to why this is so 
 effective - I always think of CS mainly as an antiseptic
  
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Re: CSHospital stay

[Deborah Gerard]

By all means bring it along and just put it in one of your bags and keep it 
handy next to your bed. If there nurses are anything in your area like they are 
in ours it takes them some time to even come to the room when you want them to 
from being overworked so I wouldn't be concerned about them even seeing you 
take it. I had my mom put it in my dad's water cup. You might want to spray it 
on the remote, phone, and anything you will be touching. Staph infection is way 
to common in our hospitals up here.  After I got my parents to start taking it 
while in the hospital they never developed any infection from their surgeries.

 




From: brick...@aol.com brick...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, July 3, 2010 6:48:41 PM
Subject: CSHospital stay

I am scheduled for knee replacement surgery in a couple of weeks. I would like 
to bring in some EIS. Dee used an empty drinking bottle with her name on the 
lid. How do you get the bottle past the nurses? I also would like to bring in 
some B-12.

I tried the Pain Free knee exercises and they did reduce the pain. I told my DR 
about the exercises and he said great you need to do them even after surgery. 

I bought my tree colorant (paint) from an East Coast outfit, so I don't think 
the yellow pine needles are only common on the West Coast. I saw Christmas 
trees shipped from North Carolina that were sprayed with the colorant. I talked 
to a worker at a huge Montana tree farm who said they do not spray their pines 
until just before harvest. He used a tractor that sprayed colorant on ten rows 
at a time.

One year I sprayed spruce trees with a blue colorant sample, enough for about 
50 trees. A commercial buyer followed me and tagged every tree I just sprayed. 
Every spruce looked like a blue spruce.
Brickey


  

Re: CSRingworm

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I think you need to mix CS with DMSO to get the penetration you need.  dee

On 4 Jul 2010, at 13:24, beitharmony wrote:

 Hi,
 My cat has ringworm, everything I've tried has not succeeded. Maybe my CS is 
 not strong enough. Now she has 2 patches on her neck. I need a solution quick 
 because she's going mad with the itching - as soon as it has only begun 
 healing - she digs in again. An E collar won't help as she goes outside. Been 
 there done that. Is there SUPER DUPER HEAVY DUTY CS for sale by anyone here 
 that people can vouch for? Because you just might have a customer.
 
 Joy
 
 


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RE: CSBurns

[Louise Larabie]

I tend to use Australian Bush Flower Essences Mulla-Mulla or a homeopathic
remedy Urtica urens is one of them or Cantharis (I keep all of them near me
in the kitchen and in my first aid kit (in my purse and they are mixed
together) I can differentiate the homeopathic remedy later on but on first
contact I grab one that does most burns.

To prevent scarring I would be using CS (I also have it in the kitchen but
it is used after the above remedies are used) I also would try to keep the
burn near the heat and would not pour cold water on it (IF I had no remedy
or CS is what I would do to lessen the blistering and pain, it is an old
wise cooks remedy for burns.  Like heals like sort of thing.  You need to be
near enough to the heat that you can feel the heat of the fire or other heat
source as much as you can stand.  I know this is contrary to the usual first
aid information but there will be much less damage from the burn.  (If I
have the remedies, they are my first pick though, cuts the pain the fastest)

Louise



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Re: CSBurns CS in spray bottle....

[ZZekelink]

 
In a message dated 7/4/2010 1:47:57 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
highfie...@internode.on.net writes:

Now that's a good idea to have some  in a spray bottle - do you use a 
plastic spray bottle? Is it OK to have the CS  in plastic (my stock is in a 
glass 
bottle)
 
 
Jane 



Hi Jane, I keep a spray bottle that is plastic of CS  (EIS) on my sink 
counter all the time.. I use it to disinfect --scrub  brushes--sponges--the 
cutting board--the sinkon  on.. also use it  to spritz burns if I get 
them... My CS stock  I do keep in glass. I  use green wine bottles-( I 
figure that if the DMSO I use a carrier picks up  a little wine, tucked in the 
glass, on the way it shouldn't hurt) ... {big  grin}  Lois

Re: CSBurns

[Jane MacRoss]

Always used to keep Urtica Diocea tincture in the kitchen but then I stopped 
burning myself - CS suits me fine - I wouldn't look further.

Jane 

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~The Highest Field of Energy Healing you now!~

From: Louise Larabie louis...@gozoom.ca


I tend to use Australian Bush Flower Essences Mulla-Mulla or a homeopathic
 remedy Urtica urens is one of them or Cantharis (I keep all of them near me
 in the kitchen and in my first aid kit (in my purse and they are mixed
 together) I can differentiate the homeopathic remedy later on but on first
 contact I grab one that does most burns.
 
 To prevent scarring I would be using CS (I also have it in the kitchen but
 it is used after the above remedies are used) I also would try to keep the
 burn near the heat and would not pour cold water on it (IF I had no remedy
 or CS is what I would do to lessen the blistering and pain, it is an old
 wise cooks remedy for burns.  Like heals like sort of thing.  You need to be
 near enough to the heat that you can feel the heat of the fire or other heat
 source as much as you can stand.  I know this is contrary to the usual first
 aid information but there will be much less damage from the burn.  (If I
 have the remedies, they are my first pick though, cuts the pain the fastest)

Re: CSRingworm

[ZZekelink]

 
In a message dated 7/4/2010 8:28:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
beitharm...@gmail.com writes:

Hi,
My cat has ringworm, everything I've tried has not  succeeded. Maybe my 
CS is not strong enough


Hi Joy, have you tried a combination of DMSO  CS  ?? It mat be what will 
do the trick...Lois {  I would use 5 or 10  % DMSO with the silver}

Re: CSBurns

[Sara Mandal-Joy]

my son's night care provider saved our house from burning when he picked 
up a flaming (hot oil, was covered, heating up for popcorn - when I took 
the lid off it exploded) cast iron pan in his bare hands
and ran it out of the house.  The burns were extremely severe on his 
hands and worse on his arms, where the flames were jumping up directly 
on his skin.  He should have gone to the ER, would have been put in the 
burn unit, but wouldn't.  Doesn't have insurance.  It was the most 
severe kind of burn, totally numb
for first hours.  First he soaked them in ice water (to stop the ongoing 
deep tissue burning).  I finally convinced him to use cs with ice.  He 
kept them immersed for the first four hours.  As the feeling began to 
return he couldn't tolerate the ice, so just used the cs.  I wanted to 
coat them with antibiotic creme, but he couldn't tolerate anything like 
that, so we just kept spraying it with cs - which was very soothing.  First
couple days were round the clock spraying and immersions in cs.   They 
healed amazingly well.   There was/is some scarring, but these severe 
burns were within two weeks basically healed.   Doctor later told me 
that they use a silver ointment in the burn unit - it is standard 
treatment, for both healing, preventing infection, and soothing.   Mike 
couldn't have tolerated the ointment, but good old homemade cs was sure 
a godsend.   Sara



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CSInteresting article

[PT Ferrance]

Hi I found this on toxic metals  and thought Mike might be interested.  

On page 10 there is protocol for detoxing with diatomaceous earth.
PT

http://mercola.fileburst.com/PDF/ToxicMetals.pdf

Re: CSBurns

[Sara Mandal-Joy]

In Mike's case, you could see the tissue continuing to burn from the 
scorched flesh, literally see the burn
progressing in the deep flesh.  No way in his case would we have put him 
near anything warm.  For a lesser burn, perhaps.   But not for a severe 
one.  It took the ice water immersion to stop the progression.  Sara

 I also would try to keep the
burn near the heat and would not pour cold water on it (IF I had no remedy
or CS is what I would do to lessen the blistering and pain, it is an old
wise cooks remedy for burns.  Like heals like sort of thing. 



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Re: Re: CSRingworm

[beitharmony]

Well, my cats are hardly eating *any* carbs now - I switched them to 
half/cooked/raw - meat/fish with just recently some millet or rice. She 
was on ProPlan when this all started. She's been off it for about 4 
months now - the ringworm has been around for about 7 months. She seemed 
to get better with the CS then - bing - another disk or redness popped 
up. So now it's 2  - one beside the other on her neck.


Joy




On 9:59 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

I think you need to mix CS with DMSO to get the penetration you need.  dee

On 4 Jul 2010, at 13:24, beitharmony wrote:

   



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CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #611

[beitharmony]

To apply DMSO on raw, oozing sores that she'll lick off?




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Re: CSInteresting article -- (DE site}

[ZZekelink]

 
In a message dated 7/4/2010 10:31:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
ptf2...@bellsouth.net writes:

Hi I found this on toxic metals  and thought Mike might  be interested.  
 
On page 10 there is protocol for detoxing with diatomaceous  earth.
PT
 



Hi PT, I take my DE  Borax just about every  day...If you want some 
interesting reading on DE check out this site--_How  Diatomaceous Earth works - 
Earthworks Health_ 
(http://www.earthworkshealth.com/How-Diatomaceous-Earth-Works.php)  Lois

Re: CSInteresting article -- (DE site}

[Paul Steel]

I just started taking DE and order some french green clay to take with it

I buy the same DE as you do
 
Paul Steel
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From: zzekel...@aol.com zzekel...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, July 4, 2010 10:46:03 AM
Subject: Re: CSInteresting article -- (DE site}

In a message dated 7/4/2010 10:31:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
ptf2...@bellsouth.net writes:
Hi I found this on toxic metals  and thought Mike might be interested.  
 
On page 10 there is protocol for detoxing with diatomaceous earth.
PT

Hi PT, I take my DE  Borax just about every day...If you want some interesting 
reading on DE check out this site--How Diatomaceous Earth works - Earthworks 
Health    Lois

Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #611

[ZZekelink]

 
In a message dated 7/4/2010 10:43:09 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
beitharm...@gmail.com writes:

To apply  DMSO on raw, oozing sores that she'll lick off?



Yikes--No---( dilute it with silver -- only  5 to 10 % DMSO. Lois)

Re: CSInteresting article -- (DE site} ( french green clay ???)

[ZZekelink]

 
In a message dated 7/4/2010 10:48:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
pste...@yahoo.com writes:

I just started taking DE and order some french green clay to take with  it
 
I buy the same DE as you do
Hi Paul, I take Benonite clay on occasion  Borax but never heard  of 
french green clay...What is it  what does it do ?  {could do a  search but 
thought you would be faster---only dial up here in the woods   :-)  Lois
Paul Steel 
h  508.520.6905 
c  508.922.0519 
The harder you work the  luckier you get!  {{ I like this  }}

Re: CSInteresting article -- (DE site} ( french green clay ???)

[Paul Steel]

This is what the moderator from lymestragies wrote about this protocol

Some info on the link below

+

Get French Green Clay and Diatomaceous Earth (DE)  powders.  Put tsp of each in 
glass of water daily (before bed is good).  these will absorb and detox toxins, 
chemicals, fungus, parasites, dead bacteria, heavy metals, and more with 
regular use.  Will also clean and heal the digestive tract. 
http://www.mountain roseherbs. com/clay/ clay.html
http://www.perma- guard.com/

 
Paul Steel
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c 508.922.0519
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From: zzekel...@aol.com zzekel...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, July 4, 2010 10:59:15 AM
Subject: Re: CSInteresting article -- (DE site} ( french green clay ???)

In a message dated 7/4/2010 10:48:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
pste...@yahoo.com writes:
I just started taking DE and order some french green clay to take with it

I buy the same DE as you do
   Hi Paul, I take Benonite clay on occasion  Borax but never heard of french 
green clay...What is it  what does it do ?  {could do a search but thought 
you would be faster---only dial up here in the woods  :-)  Lois
Paul Steel
h 508.520.6905
c 508.922.0519
The harder you work the luckier you get!  {{ I like this }}

Re: CSInteresting article -- (DE site} ( french green clay ???)

[ZZekelink]

 
In a message dated 7/4/2010 11:06:51 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
pste...@yahoo.com writes:

Some info on the link below
 
+
 
Get French Green Clay and Diatomaceous Earth (DE)   powders.  Put tsp of 
each in glass of water daily (before bed is  good).  these will absorb and 
detox toxins, chemicals, fungus, parasites,  dead bacteria, heavy metals, and 
more with regular use.  Will also clean  and heal the digestive tract. 
_http://www.mountain roseherbs. com/clay/  clay.html_ 
(http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/clay/clay.html) 
_http://www.perma-  guard.com/_ (http://www.perma-guard.com/) 




Neat site Paul. I wonder if the Bentonite (spelled  correctly this time :-) 
)  clay will do the same thing as the french  green. ??? They seem to sound 
similar  the write  up...

CS2 items

[Shirley Reed]

  For skin problems on pets, an animal feed store will have or can get an 
almost pure sulfur paste called NuStock.  It is over 70% sulfur.  My cat was 
near death from the exhaustion of scratching so much (diatomaceous earth helped 
some but not enough) when I found this NuStock.  She immediately began sleeping 
round the clock.  You will have to stay with this for a while, but it works 
wonders.  Or did for her anyway.  I have never known what caused her problem, 
but the label says will cure wet or dry mange among other things.  Don't know 
why she would have mange, but she sure had something.  It dries up sore areas 
really quickly.  It stinks, but it works.  

  Now regarding the use of lavender for burns -- is it used full strength or 
diluted??  If diluted, what dilution is recommended??  Is it put directly on 
the burned area?tia  pj


  


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Re: CSInteresting article -- (DE site} ( french green clay ???)

[needling around]

I've used Mountain Rose products and they are good.  I have also used Coso 
Green Clay internally and been happy the clays from www.imaninatural.com  Here 
is an information sheet they offer...

http://imaninatural.com/pdf/Pelotherapy101.pdf

I have used clay therapeutically for years for all kinds of things both 
internal and external.  I offer one word of caution, if you are going to take 
it internally start with a low dosage (think tip of a knife) and build up.  
Clay absorbs and swells and if you have any physical inclination toward 
constipation it could cause a blockage.  I found taking the knife tip required 
2 capsules of Triphala to avoid a problem.

One thing I found when I went looking for the DE was the price spread for Food 
Grade DE is very wide and since it is heavy some s/h charges are actually more 
than the product.  So you might want to look around.  
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: Paul Steel 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 11:06 AM
  Subject: Re: CSInteresting article -- (DE site} ( french green clay ???)


  This is what the moderator from lymestragies wrote about this protocol

  Some info on the link below

  +

  Get French Green Clay and Diatomaceous Earth (DE)  powders.  Put tsp of each 
in glass of water daily (before bed is good).  these will absorb and detox 
toxins, chemicals, fungus, parasites, dead bacteria, heavy metals, and more 
with regular use.  Will also clean and heal the digestive tract. 
  http://www.mountain roseherbs. com/clay/ clay.html
  http://www.perma- guard.com/

   
  Paul Steel

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  Subject: Re: CSInteresting article -- (DE site} ( french green clay ???)


  In a message dated 7/4/2010 10:48:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
pste...@yahoo.com writes:
I just started taking DE and order some french green clay to take with it

I buy the same DE as you do
   Hi Paul, I take Benonite clay on occasion  Borax but never heard of 
french green clay...What is it  what does it do ?  {could do a search but 
thought you would be faster---only dial up here in the woods  :-)  Lois
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RE: CSRingworm

[Nenah Sylver]

 

My cat has ringworm, everything I've tried has not succeeded. Maybe my CS is
not strong enough. Now she has 2 patches on her neck. I need a solution
quick because she's going mad with the itching - as soon as it has only
begun healing - she digs in again. An E collar won't help as she goes
outside. Been there done that. Is there SUPER DUPER HEAVY DUTY CS for sale
by anyone here that people can vouch for? Because you just might have a
customer.

=

Joy,

Try Grapefruit Seed Extract (NOT Grapeseed Extract; they are two different
things). People on my natural rearing dog list use CS religiously but they
also know its limits. They have used GSE with great success.

 

The two best brands are Citricidal and Nutribiotics. Nutribiotics is the
Citricidal diluted in glycerin. They tell you this on the Citricidal
website. You may want to buy the Nutribiotics because it's cheaper, and
there's less chance of injuries because GSE is quite caustic.

 

Nenah

Re: CS2 items

[needling around]

Lavender oil is one of the few EOs that can be used full strength.  I just 
put it directly on the burned area.  It feels cool and before long any 
discomfort has gone away.  I have used this for 1st and 2nd degree burns.


I find lavender oil to be a medicine chest in a bottle!
PT

PS:  just be sure you have pure lavender essential oil.  I use it also for 
bruises.  My Mother kept falling in her later years and I would just put the 
lavender EO on the bruises and they would re-absorb quickly.



- Original Message - 
From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 11:27 AM
Subject: CS2 items


 For skin problems on pets, an animal feed store will have or can get an 
almost pure sulfur paste called NuStock.  It is over 70% sulfur.  My cat 
was near death from the exhaustion of scratching so much (diatomaceous 
earth helped some but not enough) when I found this NuStock.  She 
immediately began sleeping round the clock.  You will have to stay with 
this for a while, but it works wonders.  Or did for her anyway.  I have 
never known what caused her problem, but the label says will cure wet or 
dry mange among other things.  Don't know why she would have mange, but 
she sure had something.  It dries up sore areas really quickly.  It 
stinks, but it works.


 Now regarding the use of lavender for burns -- is it used full strength 
or diluted??  If diluted, what dilution is recommended??  Is it put 
directly on the burned area?tia  pj






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Re: CSRingworm

[needling around]

Nenah,
Can you recommend a diluting agent that is not glycerin?  I have developed 
sensitivities to glycerin and it has limited what I can take.
Thanks.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: Nenah Sylver 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 11:43 AM
  Subject: RE: CSRingworm


   

  My cat has ringworm, everything I've tried has not succeeded. Maybe my CS is 
not strong enough. Now she has 2 patches on her neck. I need a solution quick 
because she's going mad with the itching - as soon as it has only begun healing 
- she digs in again. An E collar won't help as she goes outside. Been there 
done that. Is there SUPER DUPER HEAVY DUTY CS for sale by anyone here that 
people can vouch for? Because you just might have a customer.

  =

  Joy,

  Try Grapefruit Seed Extract (NOT Grapeseed Extract; they are two different 
things). People on my natural rearing dog list use CS religiously but they also 
know its limits. They have used GSE with great success.

   

  The two best brands are Citricidal and Nutribiotics. Nutribiotics is the 
Citricidal diluted in glycerin. They tell you this on the Citricidal website. 
You may want to buy the Nutribiotics because it's cheaper, and there's less 
chance of injuries because GSE is quite caustic.

   

  Nenah

CSRing Worm - Neem Oil

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

Joy,

NEEM Oil is fungicide, miticide, bacteriocidal and so very emolliant and 
soothing.  I purchase Green Light at the feed store for around $14 for about a 
pint.  We keep a quart spray bottle of about 1/4 cup neem and filled with pure 
water.  Just spray or otherwise wet the affected and surrounding areas.  

http://www.everydaysolutionsrx.com/ringworm/

It is no longer labeled ALL Organic but now for Organic Gardening.    When 
I called Green Light about the other ingredients and was told they are all 
other oils to help the Neem disperse in water.  I am VERY chemically sensitive 
and the Neem has never bothered me in any way except making my skin softer and 
stopp itchiness in the winter.  I have used it full strength on bites and on my 
cats when they get in a scrape with an invading feline.  The per rescue home 
here in our small town now uses Neem and I am supplying CS for topical use and 
in their water with great results being reported. 

I hope  and pray your little feline friend will regain healthy skin soon.

Paula


From: 
Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
To: 
 silver-list@eskimo.com
I think you need to mix CS with DMSO to get the penetration you need.  dee

On 4 Jul 2010, at 13:24, beitharmony wrote:

 Hi,
 My cat has ringworm, everything I've tried has not succeeded. Maybe my CS is 
 not strong enough. Now she has 2 patches on her neck. I need a solution quick 
 because she's going mad with the itching - as soon as it has only begun 
 healing - she digs in again. An E collar won't help as she goes outside. Been 
 there done that. Is there SUPER DUPER HEAVY DUTY CS for sale by anyone here 
 that people can vouch for? Because you just might have a customer.
 
 Joy
 


  

Re: CSBurns - spray bottles

[Rowena]

Jane, I have several plastic spray bottles, but one of the things I 
bought when I first started making CS was a little glass perfume spray 
bottle.  This is convenient to carry around in one's handbag, to use 
unobtrusively, and to store the liquid in glass, though the tube down 
the bottle is plastic, of course.


It  might be that a plastic spray attachment on top of a plastic bottle 
might be transferred to a glass bottle of a similar size if one could be 
found.  Heavier, though, of course.


Rowena


Now that's a good idea to have some in a spray bottle - do you use a 
plastic spray bottle? Is it OK to have the CS in plastic (my stock is 
in a glass bottle)

Re: CSBurns

[Day Sutton]

I have used the ice protocol many times over the years.  It has always
worked. And without scarring.  When I was store manager for Eckerd Drugs, a
lady in the restaurant was cleaning the back splash of the oil cooker. she
slipped and dunked her hand in the boiling oil up to halfway of her elbow.
The skin had started slipping.  I got one of the girls to get me a bag of
shaved ice.  Put her hand and arm on a towel covered in the ice and then
covered the arm with shaved ice.  wrapped her up in another towell. The
ambulance finally got there, and transported her to the hospital.  The
Doctors told her that what I did saved her arm.  She would have lost it
otherwise.   At that time 1960's I don't think they used CS.  But her arm
recovered, she did not loose any skin and it healed without a single scar.
There are many other stories like this one, but this is the worst burn I
treated

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Sara Mandal-Joy smjl...@wavewls.comwrote:

 In Mike's case, you could see the tissue continuing to burn from the
 scorched flesh, literally see the burn
 progressing in the deep flesh.  No way in his case would we have put him
 near anything warm.  For a lesser burn, perhaps.   But not for a severe one.
  It took the ice water immersion to stop the progression.  Sara

   I also would try to keep the
 burn near the heat and would not pour cold water on it (IF I had no remedy
 or CS is what I would do to lessen the blistering and pain, it is an old
 wise cooks remedy for burns.  Like heals like sort of thing.



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Re: CSBurns

[Day Sutton]

Forgot to mention.  The ice should be used for minimum of 20 minutes.  If it
begins to hurt again, do the ice treatment again...

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have used the ice protocol many times over the years.  It has always
 worked. And without scarring.  When I was store manager for Eckerd Drugs, a
 lady in the restaurant was cleaning the back splash of the oil cooker. she
 slipped and dunked her hand in the boiling oil up to halfway of her elbow.
 The skin had started slipping.  I got one of the girls to get me a bag of
 shaved ice.  Put her hand and arm on a towel covered in the ice and then
 covered the arm with shaved ice.  wrapped her up in another towell. The
 ambulance finally got there, and transported her to the hospital.  The
 Doctors told her that what I did saved her arm.  She would have lost it
 otherwise.   At that time 1960's I don't think they used CS.  But her arm
 recovered, she did not loose any skin and it healed without a single scar.
 There are many other stories like this one, but this is the worst burn I
 treated


 On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Sara Mandal-Joy smjl...@wavewls.comwrote:

 In Mike's case, you could see the tissue continuing to burn from the
 scorched flesh, literally see the burn
 progressing in the deep flesh.  No way in his case would we have put him
 near anything warm.  For a lesser burn, perhaps.   But not for a severe one.
  It took the ice water immersion to stop the progression.  Sara

   I also would try to keep the
 burn near the heat and would not pour cold water on it (IF I had no
 remedy
 or CS is what I would do to lessen the blistering and pain, it is an old
 wise cooks remedy for burns.  Like heals like sort of thing.



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Re: CSBurns

[Day Sutton]

also forgot to mention, I'm not a doctor, but if you need one call 911

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com wrote:

 Forgot to mention.  The ice should be used for minimum of 20 minutes.  If
 it begins to hurt again, do the ice treatment again...


 On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have used the ice protocol many times over the years.  It has always
 worked. And without scarring.  When I was store manager for Eckerd Drugs, a
 lady in the restaurant was cleaning the back splash of the oil cooker. she
 slipped and dunked her hand in the boiling oil up to halfway of her elbow.
 The skin had started slipping.  I got one of the girls to get me a bag of
 shaved ice.  Put her hand and arm on a towel covered in the ice and then
 covered the arm with shaved ice.  wrapped her up in another towell. The
 ambulance finally got there, and transported her to the hospital.  The
 Doctors told her that what I did saved her arm.  She would have lost it
 otherwise.   At that time 1960's I don't think they used CS.  But her arm
 recovered, she did not loose any skin and it healed without a single scar.
 There are many other stories like this one, but this is the worst burn I
 treated


 On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Sara Mandal-Joy smjl...@wavewls.comwrote:

 In Mike's case, you could see the tissue continuing to burn from the
 scorched flesh, literally see the burn
 progressing in the deep flesh.  No way in his case would we have put him
 near anything warm.  For a lesser burn, perhaps.   But not for a severe one.
  It took the ice water immersion to stop the progression.  Sara

   I also would try to keep the
 burn near the heat and would not pour cold water on it (IF I had no
 remedy
 or CS is what I would do to lessen the blistering and pain, it is an old
 wise cooks remedy for burns.  Like heals like sort of thing.



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CSCS... Cataract Questions

[larry tankersley]

 Hey folks,
 If you will, anyone that's using bright eyes, clear-eyes or what ever for 
Cataracts, I'd sure like to hear of your experience.
 Also, some time ago there was a thread on DMSO/CS, etc. that had been used for 
cataracts. I can't find what I thought I'd saved. I'd appreciate it if some one 
would post such again.
 Due to the modalities used for dealing with a retinal,macular detachment I now 
have 20/70 vision in that eye primarily due to the rapid increase of the 
cataract.
 A lens replacement is very risky after having the previous operation. 
  I must do something as I can't see worth a flip, i.e. depth perception etc. 
 No doubt this is but a small wrinkle in ones life in the all... and, I sure 
would like to smooth this one out a bit. 
 TIA for any feedback.   

larry tankersley, Gainesville FL. USA

Re: Re: CSRingworm

[Renee]

If it's been this long she has an immune problem, because ringworm is a
virus.  She should be on some anti-virals.  MMS is a very good one, easy to
give.  There are herbal ones.  You just have to kill the virus and build her
immune system. 
 
samala,
Renee
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Chronic pain does NOT belong in your body.  The Am Wand helps 
you get rid of it quickly and easily.  Get the wand here 
 
---Original Message---
 
She's been off it for about 4
months now - the ringworm has been around for about 7 months. She seemed
to get better with the CS then - bing - another disk or redness popped
up. So now it's 2  - one beside the other on her neck.
 

CSCS: Burns/Vitamin E

[Harold MacDonald]

Many years before I knew about CS/EIS I found Vitamin E oil to be an excellent 
treatment for mild burns.I still use it by puncturing a Vit.E capsule and 
applying it to the burn,almost instant relief from the pain.


Harold

RE: Re: CSRingworm

[Louise Larabie]

But Ringworm is a fungus but I agree on the person needing to build up the
immune system to fight the fungus though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dermatophytosis has some basic info on it.


Louise

From: Renee [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 1:35 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: Re: CSRingworm

If it's been this long she has an immune problem, because ringworm is a
virus.  She should be on some anti-virals.  MMS is a very good one, easy to
give.  There are herbal ones.  You just have to kill the virus and build her
immune system. 
 
samala,
Renee


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CSBurning feet

[PT Ferrance]

Hi,
I have a dear elderly friend that has burning feet.  The drs tell her there is 
nothing to be done.  Anyone have any suggestions?  When my Dad had this I used 
acu-needles but she is too far away for this.
Thanks.
PT

Re: CSBurning feet

[Paul Steel]

My feet burn but its from bartonella
 
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From: PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, July 4, 2010 1:47:52 PM
Subject: CSBurning feet


Hi,
I have a dear elderly friend that has burning feet.  The drs tell her there is 
nothing to be done.  Anyone have any suggestions?  When my Dad had this I used 
acu-needles but she is too far away for this.
Thanks.
PT

RE: Re: CSRingworm

[Renee]

I've heard both--virus and fungus.  
http://www.consultation.ayurvediccure.com/symptoms-of-ringworm/

 
samala,
Renee
www.eamega.com/RPainManageEnt 
Chronic pain does NOT belong in your body.  The Am Wand helps 
you get rid of it quickly and easily.  Get the wand here 
 
---Original Message---
 

 
But Ringworm is a fungus but I agree on the person needing to build up the
immune system to fight the fungus though.
 

Re: CSBurns

[Sandee George]

Hi There PT - I put lavender EO in my EIS gel which is my most popular  
by far    Works wonders and is

sort after.   It is most popular with mechanics who swear by it 
Take good care
Sandee


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Re: CSCS... Cataract Questions

[Sandee George]

Hi There Larry - I have held cataracts at bay for about four years  
plus - with EIS  DMSO drops, bottles of this I have all over the  
house, bedside table, TV watching area, computer room, kitchen, I put  
these in all day, can't use enough of them - Make my own - also use  
MSM drops in the same way.Brite Eyes 111 - eye drops twice per  
day, last drop before bed at night - Life Extension - Ft Lauderdale -  
i...@lifeextion,com - also when I wash my face, with my eyes closed, I  
splash water very quickly with my fingers on the eye lids this is for  
blood circulation of the eyes.   I have found all very successful for  
me.   When I am in a place where I can get young water coconuts then I  
put this water in my eyes, it has to be a young coconut the old ones  
do not do the job, so to do this one you have to live under a coconut  
tree like I do !
Every time I go to have my eyes checked I am asked what am I doing -  
my reply - if I told you you would laugh at me - one told me he would  
never put anything in his eyes an (eye doctor) did not tell him to put  
in, my reply was, then you will never know what I do    As per  
usual everyone wants to know, everyone wants a quick fix, and few are  
prepared to do the work    Try all, or any, as you are guided to  
do - they all work

Regards
Sandee


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Re: CSCS... Cataract Questions

[needling around]

Hi Sandee,
How do you sterilize your solutions and delivery bottles?
Thanks.
PT

- Original Message - 
From: Sandee George oha...@juno.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: CSCS... Cataract Questions


Hi There Larry - I have held cataracts at bay for about four years  
plus - with EIS  DMSO drops, bottles of this I have all over the  
house, bedside table, TV watching area, computer room, kitchen, I put  
these in all day, can't use enough of them - Make my own - also use  
MSM drops in the same way.Brite Eyes 111 - eye drops twice per  
day, last drop before bed at night - Life Extension - Ft Lauderdale -  
i...@lifeextion,com - also when I wash my face, with my eyes closed, I  
splash water very quickly with my fingers on the eye lids this is for  
blood circulation of the eyes.   I have found all very successful for  
me.   When I am in a place where I can get young water coconuts then I  
put this water in my eyes, it has to be a young coconut the old ones  
do not do the job, so to do this one you have to live under a coconut  
tree like I do !
Every time I go to have my eyes checked I am asked what am I doing -  
my reply - if I told you you would laugh at me - one told me he would  
never put anything in his eyes an (eye doctor) did not tell him to put  
in, my reply was, then you will never know what I do    As per  
usual everyone wants to know, everyone wants a quick fix, and few are  
prepared to do the work    Try all, or any, as you are guided to  
do - they all work

Regards
Sandee


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Re: CSCS... Cataract Questions

[Sandee George]

Hi There PT - solutions - distilled water
bottles  droppers - boiling water, distilled preferably !!!
Good luck
Sandee


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Re: CSRingworm

[sol]

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

I think you need to mix CS with DMSO to get the penetration you need.  dee
  

Yes!
sol

On 4 Jul 2010, at 13:24, beitharmony wrote:

  

Hi,
My cat has ringworm, everything I've tried has not succeeded. Maybe my CS is not strong enough. Now she has 2 patches on her neck. I need a solution quick because she's going mad with the itching - as soon as it has only begun healing - she digs in again. 



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Re: CSHospital stay

[Brickeyk]

 
In a message dated 7/3/2010 5:32:45 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
day.sut...@gmail.com writes:

You  still have time to check out Prolotherapy


My son works at a large Naval Base and one of the workers told him  that if 
Prolotherapy fails and the person then proceeds with surgery the bones  
become brittle and can fracture. Prolotherapy has a high failure rate like  
30%. At my age 78 I am near the age where my DR would not do the surgery.  He 
had two other DR's agree that I was OK for this surgery. He requested that  
both DR's be present during the surgery. I have Asthma, sleep apnea and  
COPD. A lady who just had surgery with similar problems said they kept her  
airway open during the surgery by putting a hose down her throat. 
 
Dee this DR is of English decent and is a direct descendent of the General  
who conquered Scotland and deported my cousins to the colonies like 
America. 
 
Brickey

Re: CSBurning feet

[Paula Perry]

This is an indication of a vitamin deficiency. It is one of the B's and I don't exactly remember which one. Do a google for buring feet and B vitamin.
Paula
-Original Message- From: PT Ferrance Sent: Jul 4, 2010 1:47 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSBurning feet 


Hi,
I have a dear elderly friend that has burning feet. The drs tell her there is nothing to be done. Anyone have any suggestions? When my Dad had this I used acu-needles but she is too far away for this.
Thanks.
PT


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RE: CSTesting pH?

[Neville Munn]

Hi Tony,
 
Most articles I've read talk about keeping that probe wet all the time.  I 
don't think that's important for my purpose though.  I'd say that's only if a 
degree of accuracy was of the utmost importance, more in laboratory situations 
I suspect as opposed to the kitchen benchtop.
 
I think I've got the answer I've been looking for.

 

Cheers

 
N.
 
 
 
 From: a...@new.co.za
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 09:24:33 +0200
 Subject: RE: CSTesting pH?
 
 Hi Neville,
 
 Taking a guess here . The buffer may be a solution made up to be a fixed 
 pH for testing and monitoring and adjusting the pH meter. From memory, 
 watching others setting up and calibrating pH electrodes and meters, 
 there were two such solutions at or near the ends of the upper and lower 
 range of the desired measurement range. But usually only one solution is 
 sufficient for checking, once the meter and electrode is set.
 
 A buffer solution is chosen to be a stable pH even though it has aged or 
 been stuffed up in other ways. It should be a steady, reliable known pH.
 
 OK,
 Tony
 
 On 3 Jul 2010 at 11:28, Neville Munn wrote about :
 Subject : RE: CSTesting pH?
 
  
  This is why I asked if a buffer is *necessary*, I don't want to change
  anything, and I don't want to 'neutralise' anything, I just want to take a
  measurement *as is*.
  
  
  
  I'm content now, knowing that a buffer is not a requirement if simply
  wanting to take a straight measurement of water or a solution.
  
  
  
  Why do you add the reagent Harold?
  
  
  
  Correct me if I'm wrong, but buffers are for the purpose of increasing or
  decreasing acidity/alkalinity as a compensatory measure to create a
  neutral pH are they not? I don't wish to alter or neutralise anything,
  just get a reading of pH of the water/solution as it is from scratch.
  
  
  
  N.
  
  
  
  From: har...@telus.net
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CSTesting pH?
  Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 16:26:24 -0700
  
  
  
  
  I test my Distilled water using an aquarium kit.It uses a blue reagent,2
  drops in a measured amt of water.
  
  Harold 
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RE: CSTesting pH?

[M. G. Devour]

Neville writes:
 Most articles I've read talk about keeping that probe wet all the time. 
 I don't think that's important for my purpose though. 

I'd have to ask my wife, the scientist, but i seem to remember that 
some pH probes do have to be protected by keeping them in a calibration 
solution all the time when not in use, or they might go bad.

I'll ask her, but if the equipment manufacturer says so, you'd probably 
want to do it.

Be well,

Mike D.

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Re: CS2 items

[sol]

Shirley Reed wrote:

  Now regarding the use of lavender for burns -- is it used full strength or 
diluted??  If diluted, what dilution is recommended??  Is it put directly on 
the burned area?tia  pj
  
I use it full strength for burns...it stopped the pain from splashed 
boiling grease nearly instantaneously. I applied it a couple more times 
and the next day had not even any red marks. (no CS used on this one).


I also applied it to a burn on my thumb where I tried to pick up the lid 
of a roaster fresh from a 400 degree oven. Took about 45 min to get rid 
of that pain, and I did have a deep brand that was tender for a couple 
days, but it healed quickly, though the burned skin sloughed off. Don't 
remember using any CS on this burn.


Also applied it when a pet bit through a thumbnail and into the nail 
bed. It also quickly stopped that pain. Used  CS after the pain stopped.


Because of the speed of pain relief and healing lavender essential oil 
is always what I reach for FIRST.

sol



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Re: CSHospital stay

[needling around]

Hi Brickey,
I have had many orthopedic surgeries and they intubated me for all of them... 
even for the non ortho surgeries.  It is my understanding they intubate 
everyone under general anesthesia.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: brick...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 8:11 PM
  Subject: Re: CSHospital stay


  In a message dated 7/3/2010 5:32:45 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
day.sut...@gmail.com writes:
You still have time to check out Prolotherapy
  My son works at a large Naval Base and one of the workers told him that if 
Prolotherapy fails and the person then proceeds with surgery the bones become 
brittle and can fracture. Prolotherapy has a high failure rate like 30%. At my 
age 78 I am near the age where my DR would not do the surgery. He had two other 
DR's agree that I was OK for this surgery. He requested that both DR's be 
present during the surgery. I have Asthma, sleep apnea and COPD. A lady who 
just had surgery with similar problems said they kept her airway open during 
the surgery by putting a hose down her throat. 

  Dee this DR is of English decent and is a direct descendent of the General 
who conquered Scotland and deported my cousins to the colonies like America. 

  Brickey

CSburning feet

[Shirley Reed]

   Burning feet can be caused by a lack of pantothenic acid which is a B 
vitamin.  You may want to get her to use a 500mg. dose just to check it out.  
If it works, then she should work at reducing the dose.  But she must be very 
careful to take a complete and high potency B supplement with the pantothenic 
acid.  If the B's get too far out of balance she will get some very unwelcome 
side effects.  These include emotional disturbances which can be severe (anger, 
depression, whatever) and extreme fatigue.  These clear up in a couple of weeks 
or so after stopping the overdosing.  This if from personal experience.  Best 
wishes with this.  pj


  


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CScataract drops

[Shirley Reed]

   I have used Cansee which is the Russian preparation for cataracts.  I think 
it is from Russia.  Originally I got it for my husband since prednisone is 
giving him cataracts, but his pain requires it.  Or so he thinks anyway.   So I 
wound up using all three bottles since he felt it was too expensive.  I don't 
understand some peoples reasonings.  Anyhoo, those drops were the most 
wonderful feeling drops for eyes I have ever used.  Really made the eyes feel 
good.  I can't say about cataracts since I don't have that condition.  There 
are slightly different drops that contain the same active ingredients as the 
CanSee, but don't cost as much.  I have not used them.Did the Larry 
Tankersley on this list ever live in NE Arkansas??  Around Osceola??   Hope 
that's not too personal.   pj   I did not know this man personally but recall 
hearing the name.  He was a well-respected person.


  


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Re: CSHospital stay

[Dan Nave]

unless they are doing a tonsilectomy...

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 8:34 PM, needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 Hi Brickey,
 I have had many orthopedic surgeries and they intubated me for all of
 them... even for the non ortho surgeries.  It is my understanding they
 intubate everyone under general anesthesia.
 PT

 - Original Message -
 From: brick...@aol.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 8:11 PM
 Subject: Re: CSHospital stay
 In a message dated 7/3/2010 5:32:45 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
 day.sut...@gmail.com writes:

 You still have time to check out Prolotherapy

 My son works at a large Naval Base and one of the workers told him that if
 Prolotherapy fails and the person then proceeds with surgery the bones
 become brittle and can fracture. Prolotherapy has a high failure rate like
 30%. At my age 78 I am near the age where my DR would not do the surgery. He
 had two other DR's agree that I was OK for this surgery. He requested that
 both DR's be present during the surgery. I have Asthma, sleep apnea and
 COPD. A lady who just had surgery with similar problems said they kept her
 airway open during the surgery by putting a hose down her throat.

 Dee this DR is of English decent and is a direct descendent of the General
 who conquered Scotland and deported my cousins to the colonies like America.

 Brickey


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CSTick Bite

[Del]

Hi:

My wife, Jane, was bitten by a tick while visiting her mother on Shelter 
Island, one of the Lyme capitals of the world.
Anybody out there with knowledge of what should be done immediately to deal 
with the possibility (probability?) of infection with Lyme?
My understanding is that if you catch it early, it is easier to eliminate, 
but doctors here in Vermont don't know much about dealing with Lyme.
There is actually too much information on the web, if you can believe that, 
she wants an answer fast and my head is spinning with the many Lyme articles 
I have already read, none of which were targeted at what to do right away if 
bitten.


We were told here that you have to wait four weeks to test to see if you 
have been exposed to Borrelia burgdorferi (Lyme spirochete), and then the 
test (not sure what test they are talking about) costs $200, is NOT covered 
by Medicare or our health insurance, and may or may not be reliable. 
Anybody know about that?


Thanks,
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Re: CSTick Bite

[Don Barnes]

Give David Christopher a call @ Christopher Enterprises Mon - Fri 12-1 PM

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Del d...@altsystem.com wrote:

 Hi:

 My wife, Jane, was bitten by a tick while visiting her mother on Shelter
 Island, one of the Lyme capitals of the world.
 Anybody out there with knowledge of what should be done immediately to deal
 with the possibility (probability?) of infection with Lyme?
 My understanding is that if you catch it early, it is easier to eliminate,
 but doctors here in Vermont don't know much about dealing with Lyme.
 There is actually too much information on the web, if you can believe that,
 she wants an answer fast and my head is spinning with the many Lyme articles
 I have already read, none of which were targeted at what to do right away if
 bitten.

 We were told here that you have to wait four weeks to test to see if you
 have been exposed to Borrelia burgdorferi (Lyme spirochete), and then the
 test (not sure what test they are talking about) costs $200, is NOT covered
 by Medicare or our health insurance, and may or may not be reliable. Anybody
 know about that?

 Thanks,
 Del



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Re: CSTick Bite

[Malcolm]

Hi Del, 

I live in northern California, the western Lyme capital, so I'm very
familiar with Lyme disease and the protocols.

First, DON'T wait for a month til they do a test; if the health care
providers you've contacted don't seem to know much about Lyme - they
probably don't!  The usual test is called the Western Blot test, and
it's not particularly accurate, giving about 15% false negatives.
Particularly if a person has been infected with the spirochete for less
than three months it's about useless, the infection doesn't show up, and
even after that it's easy to miss detection.

So you're right, go after it right away, and don't count on the test
results to tell you if she {still} has it.  Also it isn't so common; not
every tick bite will carry Lyme or Bartonella; no percentages on this,
especially in that neck of the woods, but it's not a sure thing by a
long shot.

One of the best antibiotics recommended for Lyme (Borrelia Burgdorferii)
is Bactrim DS  (DS for double strength), another brand is Septra; its
generic name is Sulfamethoxazole-Trimethoprim, and there is a very small
chance your wife may have a reaction to it.  Not many do, but be aware
that very occasionally someone will.  It's possible to find sources for
this antibiotic online  without a prescription or you may be able to get
it from a doc who is more familiar with the whole Lyme scene.  If it
were me - and it has been - I would take two Bactrim DS per day for AT
LEAST ten days.  If I'd shown the characteristic rash around the bite
area I'd definitely do it for thirty days minimum.

You can also take CS by mouth, about an ounce every couple of hours for
the first day or so, then slow down to maybe three or four glugs a day
and one more just before bed;  This will help, but the ABX are critical.

HTH, 
Malcolm

On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 22:31 -0400, Del wrote:
 Hi:
 
 My wife, Jane, was bitten by a tick while visiting her mother on Shelter 
 Island, one of the Lyme capitals of the world.
 Anybody out there with knowledge of what should be done immediately to deal 
 with the possibility (probability?) of infection with Lyme?
 My understanding is that if you catch it early, it is easier to eliminate, 
 but doctors here in Vermont don't know much about dealing with Lyme.
 There is actually too much information on the web, if you can believe that, 
 she wants an answer fast and my head is spinning with the many Lyme articles 
 I have already read, none of which were targeted at what to do right away if 
 bitten.
 
 We were told here that you have to wait four weeks to test to see if you 
 have been exposed to Borrelia burgdorferi (Lyme spirochete), and then the 
 test (not sure what test they are talking about) costs $200, is NOT covered 
 by Medicare or our health insurance, and may or may not be reliable. 
 Anybody know about that?
 
 Thanks,
 Del 
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSTick Bite

[needling around]

Does she have a bulls-eye?  I know this is an alternative list but in this 
case I would consider a dose of the appropriate antibiotics if it were me.

PT


- Original Message - 
From: Del d...@altsystem.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 10:31 PM
Subject: CSTick Bite



Hi:

My wife, Jane, was bitten by a tick while visiting her mother on Shelter 
Island, one of the Lyme capitals of the world.
Anybody out there with knowledge of what should be done immediately to 
deal with the possibility (probability?) of infection with Lyme?
My understanding is that if you catch it early, it is easier to eliminate, 
but doctors here in Vermont don't know much about dealing with Lyme.
There is actually too much information on the web, if you can believe 
that, she wants an answer fast and my head is spinning with the many Lyme 
articles I have already read, none of which were targeted at what to do 
right away if bitten.


We were told here that you have to wait four weeks to test to see if you 
have been exposed to Borrelia burgdorferi (Lyme spirochete), and then the 
test (not sure what test they are talking about) costs $200, is NOT 
covered by Medicare or our health insurance, and may or may not be 
reliable. Anybody know about that?


Thanks,
Del



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RE: CSTick Bite

[Nenah Sylver]

For tick bites, rattlesnake bites, any insect bites etc., you want to use
something to prevent the venom from circulating throughout the system.

 

If you have a Tennant Biomodulator, continually circle the area in a wide
berth. The electric current disables the poison.

 

Also make a pack out of bentonite clay (or any clay that has drawing power)
and colloidal silver. 

 

Enzyme cream might work too. Systemic enzymes (to eat up the poison) is also
a good idea.

 

Nenah 

==

My wife, Jane, was bitten by a tick while visiting her mother on Shelter
Island, one of the Lyme capitals of the world. Anybody out there with
knowledge of what should be done immediately to deal with the possibility
(probability?) of infection with Lyme? My understanding is that if you catch
it early, it is easier to eliminate, but doctors here in Vermont don't know
much about dealing with Lyme. There is actually too much information on the
web, if you can believe that, she wants an answer fast and my head is
spinning with the many Lyme articles I have already read, none of which were
targeted at what to do right away if bitten. 

 

We were told here that you have to wait four weeks to test to see if you
have been exposed to Borrelia burgdorferi (Lyme spirochete), and then the
test (not sure what test they are talking about) costs $200, is NOT covered
by Medicare or our health insurance, and may or may not be reliable. Anybody
know about that? 

 

Thanks, Del

 

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CSBrickley's New Knee

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

Brickey,

To do the knew knee replacement$, all the muscles must be relaxed enough for 
the surgeon to manipulate the old joint out and get the replacement into proper 
position.  With that kind of muscle relaxation the breathing muscles are 
essentially nonfunctioning.  So a tube sized to the patient's weight is 
lubricated with a water soluable anesthetizing lubricant and inserted through 
the mouth with the end going below the vocal cords.  There is even a little 
balloon circling the tube which is inflated to form an air tight seal so the 
anesthesia machine can sense how much air to introduce with each breath it 
gives the sleeping patient.  Some folks have no after effects from this 
intubation while others may have a minor sore throat for a few days.  Now that 
I know about EIS/CS I would take a spray bottle with me to spray a little 
before surgery and several times afterwards also.  I hope this was not too 
graphic.  If it was me, I would want as much info
 as possible - for reassurance and to figure out the post operative feelings 
also.  
I pray you have as much relief as my father got from his knee replacement at 
age 79.  He awoke saying It doesn't hurt anymore  and later explained that 
the intensity of the over 40 years of pain was just gone even though there 
was postoperative pain.  He spent two days instead of a week in rehab and was 
determined to get that leg fully functional again - -  and I am glad to say 
that he did!  He was literally a different person for the rest of his life.  
And I had a Daddy who could converse and share instead of fighting the pain.  
It was wonderful for him and for us, his family.

If I were having ANY surgery I would probably spray full body with EIS/CS a few 
times a day before surgery to lower the number of skin bacteria and then keep 
spraying after the operation as much as possible to thwart any hospital 
acquired infection.  Just be careful not to saturate the dressing or get the 
wound soaked if they tell you to keep it dry.  I have a very fine mist sprayer 
that barely wets the skin.  That kind would probably be best in the wound area 
until you are allowed to get the wound wet in the shower.  Hubby is reminding 
me that the smaller the bottle, usually the finer the mist.  We have a 2 ounce 
and I tightened the 8 ounce adjustable spray to a very fine mist also.

Blessing to YOU BRINKEY !  We pray that every act and action toward you before, 
during and after surgery will be to your best interest and contribute to your 
health.

Paula and Leon

Fw: Re: CSHospital stay
Re: CSHospital stay
Sunday, July 04, 2010 8:34:24 PM
From: 
needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net
To: 
 silver-list@eskimo.com
Hi Brickey,
I have had many orthopedic surgeries and they intubated me for all of them... 
even for the non ortho surgeries.  It is my understanding they intubate 
everyone under general anesthesia.
PT
- Original Message - 
From: brick...@aol.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: CSHospital stay

In a message dated 7/3/2010 5:32:45 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
day.sut...@gmail.com writes:
You still have time to check out Prolotherapy
My son works at a large Naval Base and one of the workers told him that if 
Prolotherapy fails and the person then proceeds with surgery the bones become 
brittle and can fracture. Prolotherapy has a high failure rate like 30%. At my 
age 78 I am near the age where my DR would not do the surgery. He had two 
other DR's agree that I was OK for this surgery. He requested that both DR's 
be present during the surgery. I have Asthma, sleep apnea and COPD. A lady who 
just had surgery with similar problems said they kept her airway open during 
the surgery by putting a hose down her throat. 

Dee this DR is of English decent and is a direct descendent of the General who 
conquered Scotland and deported my cousins to the colonies like America. 

Brickey