Re: CS>My first post

[Garnet_LDN]

You may want to investigate the treatments that Dr Dietrich Klinghardt 
uses for chronic Lyme patients. He is
also a chronic lyme patient himself. He is brilliant and at the 
forefront of treating the whole person as well as being forward thinking 
in his methods. He gets mostly the toughest cases and is highly thought 
of in the Lyme Disease world. He is in the Seattle area, but works with 
LLMD all over the country and trains doctors in his methods.



There is a disorder called Pyrroluria that he finds in some 80% of those 
with LD which is treated with Vitamins and Minerals. I recently started 
a list on this disorder so rather than take up space here I will give 
you the list address. You can check out Dr K's folder in the links 
section or just search on Dr K to find out more about his approach to 
treating Lyme. There may be a connection between Pyrroluria and the 
immune system challenges of many degnerative diseases. Please see the 
list description for more information. 
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Pyrroluria



Scott Forsgren is a Lyme patient of Dr K and has written extensively on 
his experience. You may want to write to Scott personally, I think he 
might have a lot to share with you. Here is a recent article he wrote on 
Pyrroluria:
Kryptopyrroluria (aka Hemopyrrollactamuria): A Major Piece of the Puzzle 
in Overcoming Chronic Lyme Disea Public Health Alert, May 2010, Vol 5 
Issue 5

http://www.publichealthalert.org/pdf/2010_05.pdf



Dr Klinghardt's Power Point ~ Lyme In Autism 2009 Conference. Excellent 
and fairly quick read.

This is the Power Point that he used in his presentation (video link below)
http://web.mac.com/thriiive/Summit5/Protocol_files/KPU%2009.ppt



This is an excellent video although I had trouble with it yesterday so 
it may not play all the way through
for you. Dr K talks about Lyme, Pyrroluria and Autism. Treatment and 
detox are major topics.


Dietritch Klinghardt, M.D.’s Presentation on HPU, Lyme Disease and Autism
LIA Foundation’s 2009 Annual Conference
http://planetthrive.com/2010/04/hpukpu-protocol-for-lyme-and-autism/



Hope you find some useful information in these links,


Janet


David AuBuchon wrote:

Hi All,

I'm new to this list. I've been following every CS group on yahoo, but 
they all seem pretty dead! This one looks like the goldmine I've been 
looking for!


I'm here to learn about all sorts of innumerable details of CS. I am 
not "in the biz", but have not ruled out the possibility that some day 
I might be. Hence I want to learn, learn, learn.


I have Lyme, bartonella, babesia, mycoplasma, candida, and I don't 
know what else. A regular swamp. I believe Lyme is minimal now and 
candida is essentially a non issue now. Bartonella I think is the main 
enemy by far right now. I have been sick since age 16, and just kind 
of lived with it until age 22. I couldn't live with it anymore. It was 
do or die. In what I now think was truly a race for my life, I finally 
got diagnosed with Lyme at age 23. Somehow I finished grad school. I 
am now 25, and too sick to work. I have a B.S. and M.S. in industrial 
engineering from a top university.


I've done all sorts of crazy therapies. The ones that have helped the 
most for my particular case:


1. Coconut oil absolutely ransacked candida where as nystatin and 
diflucan had no apparent effect at all.


2. Doug coil rife machine herxed and improved on Lyme frequencies and 
eventually stopped being effective. Presumably because the other 
infections are the bad guys left.


3. Homemade ionic silver. Sometimes as much as 32 oz a day. Somewhat 
regularly for a few months. Then it stopped being effective orally. If 
I don't take it for 4 or 5 days, I feel some bugs "edging up". I take 
CS, then it knocks that feeling out for 4 or 5 days. I think I might 
slowly head backwards if I did not keep doing this with the CS.


In general, I tend not to respond to treatments. I am the guy who 
wishes he could get something to make him herx, but just can't.


The latest development in my treatment:

IV silver nitrate

I have had two treatments so far. First one have me a herx that was 
almost literally identical to flu. Fever, chills, weakness, etc. I 
have never in my life had a herx that felt like the immune system was 
actually doing its job! The second treatment was lower dose cuz I was 
scared after the first treatment. No flu symptoms but more "usual" 
herx symptoms (fatigue, depression, brain fog). Round three is this 
friday!


~David

p.s. to reply to messages, do I just click "reply" to it when I get 
messages in my gmail inbox? I subscribed to the digest.



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Re: CS>LL) My Thanks to all, Molly has passed.

[Sandy]

So sorry for your loss, Lois. At least Molly is no longer in pain and I choose 
to believe she is now running and playing with the Angels.

Blessings to you and your family at this sad time.

Sandy

--- On Wed, 8/25/10, zzekel...@aol.com  wrote:
Thanks again, 
Lois


  

Re: CS>My first post

[Sunny]

Wow David, Welcome.  I'm not very active on here, but I can tell you that it IS 
a goldmine and not only that it is a gold, silver, MMS and virtually any 
alternative therapy that people care to share.. so you are at home here.

I am sorry for your challenges and admire your resolve to find a way to combat 
it... Bravo... I am with you in spirit.. and hoping you find some more help 
here 
and more inspiration...

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From: David AuBuchon 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 11:02:23 PM
Subject: CS>My first post

Hi All,

I'm new to this list.  I've been following every CS group on yahoo, but they 
all 
seem pretty dead!  This one looks like the goldmine I've been looking for!

I'm here to learn about all sorts of innumerable details of CS.  I am not "in 
the biz", but have not ruled out the possibility that some day I might be.  
Hence I want to learn, learn, learn.  


I have Lyme, bartonella, babesia, mycoplasma, candida, and I don't know what 
else.  A regular swamp.  I believe Lyme is minimal now and candida is 
essentially a non issue now.  Bartonella I think is the main enemy by far right 
now.  I have been sick since age 16, and just kind of lived with it until age 
22.  I couldn't live with it anymore.  It was do or die.  In what I now think 
was truly a race for my life, I finally got diagnosed with Lyme at age 23.  
Somehow I finished grad school.  I am now 25, and too sick to work.  I have a 
B.S. and M.S. in industrial engineering from a top university.  


I've done all sorts of crazy therapies.  The ones that have helped the most for 
my particular case:

1.  Coconut oil absolutely ransacked candida where as nystatin and diflucan had 
no apparent effect at all.

2.  Doug coil rife machine herxed and improved on Lyme frequencies and 
eventually stopped being effective.  Presumably because the other infections 
are 
the bad guys left.

3.  Homemade ionic silver.  Sometimes as much as 32 oz a day.  Somewhat 
regularly for a few months.  Then it stopped being effective orally.  If I 
don't 
take it for 4 or 5 days, I feel some bugs "edging up".  I take CS, then it 
knocks that feeling out for 4 or 5 days.  I think I might slowly head backwards 
if I did not keep doing this with the CS.

In general, I tend not to respond to treatments.  I am the guy who wishes he 
could get something to make him herx, but just can't.

The latest development in my treatment:

IV silver nitrate

I have had two treatments so far.  First one have me a herx that was almost 
literally identical to flu.  Fever, chills, weakness, etc.  I have never in my 
life had a herx that felt like the immune system was actually doing its job!  
The second treatment was lower dose cuz I was scared after the first treatment. 
 
No flu symptoms but more "usual" herx symptoms (fatigue, depression, brain 
fog).  Round three is this friday!

~David

p.s.  to reply to messages, do I just click "reply" to it when I get messages 
in 
my gmail inbox?  I subscribed to the digest.



  

CS>My first post

[David AuBuchon]

Hi All,

I'm new to this list.  I've been following every CS group on yahoo, but they
all seem pretty dead!  This one looks like the goldmine I've been looking
for!

I'm here to learn about all sorts of innumerable details of CS.  I am not
"in the biz", but have not ruled out the possibility that some day I might
be.  Hence I want to learn, learn, learn.

I have Lyme, bartonella, babesia, mycoplasma, candida, and I don't know what
else.  A regular swamp.  I believe Lyme is minimal now and candida is
essentially a non issue now.  Bartonella I think is the main enemy by far
right now.  I have been sick since age 16, and just kind of lived with it
until age 22.  I couldn't live with it anymore.  It was do or die.  In what
I now think was truly a race for my life, I finally got diagnosed with Lyme
at age 23.  Somehow I finished grad school.  I am now 25, and too sick to
work.  I have a B.S. and M.S. in industrial engineering from a top
university.

I've done all sorts of crazy therapies.  The ones that have helped the most
for my particular case:

1.  Coconut oil absolutely ransacked candida where as nystatin and diflucan
had no apparent effect at all.

2.  Doug coil rife machine herxed and improved on Lyme frequencies and
eventually stopped being effective.  Presumably because the other infections
are the bad guys left.

3.  Homemade ionic silver.  Sometimes as much as 32 oz a day.  Somewhat
regularly for a few months.  Then it stopped being effective orally.  If I
don't take it for 4 or 5 days, I feel some bugs "edging up".  I take CS,
then it knocks that feeling out for 4 or 5 days.  I think I might slowly
head backwards if I did not keep doing this with the CS.

In general, I tend not to respond to treatments.  I am the guy who wishes he
could get something to make him herx, but just can't.

The latest development in my treatment:

IV silver nitrate

I have had two treatments so far.  First one have me a herx that was almost
literally identical to flu.  Fever, chills, weakness, etc.  I have never in
my life had a herx that felt like the immune system was actually doing its
job!  The second treatment was lower dose cuz I was scared after the first
treatment.  No flu symptoms but more "usual" herx symptoms (fatigue,
depression, brain fog).  Round three is this friday!

~David

p.s.  to reply to messages, do I just click "reply" to it when I get
messages in my gmail inbox?  I subscribed to the digest.

Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2010 #707

[needling around]

You might want to check into this a little more.  I have read that it doesn't 
effect blood sugar.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: Melly Bag 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 8:40 PM
  Subject: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2010 #707


PT,

Thanks for D-mannose tip. Unfortunately can't take it as i am diabetic 
and D-mannose is a simple sugar.

Melly



--- On Wed, 8/25/10, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com 
 wrote:


  From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com 

  Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #707
  To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com
  Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 7:18 PM

   

CS>RE: Turpentine For Viruses?

[Norton, Steve]

I have only seen data that it is effective against the HSV-1 virus.

-  Steve N

 

From: Peter Converse [mailto:pconve...@primus.ca] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:22 PM
To: Norton, Steve; silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL:Turpentine For Viruses?

 

Hi Steve and all,

 

Anyone know if turpentine would help with chronic viruses such as EBV,
CMV, XMRV etc?

 

Peter

- Original Message - 

From: Norton, Steve   

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 1:18 PM

Subject: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2010 #705

 

I used turpentine for a case of UTI. It was very quick and
effective. I took 1 drop of pure turpentine with a half tsp of white
sugar.  There were no observable effects other than the elimination of
the infection.

 

-  Steve N

 

 

CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2010 #707

[Melly Bag]

PT,
 
Thanks for D-mannose tip. Unfortunately can't take it as i am diabetic and 
D-mannose is a simple sugar.
 
Melly
 
 
 
--- On Wed, 8/25/10, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com 
 wrote:


From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com 
Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #707
To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 7:18 PM

Re: CS>LL) My Thanks to all, Molly has passed.

[carolG]

So sorry Lois...always hard on all

I have a Molly who almost died last year...Sept. will be yr. since 
biposy...LUPUS..she has recovered.

Carol




From: "zzekel...@aol.com" 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 2:13:43 PM
Subject: CS>LL) My Thanks to all, Molly has passed. 

 Last night Molly was awake all night as were my  son Dan & I. She was crying & 
we knew she was in pain. We gave her  Tylenol& codeine which did not help..This 
morning she could not get up.   We knew it was time to say goodbye...The 
traveling Vet came at 11:00 to  day & Molly gently & quietly crossed over. The 
vet said that with the  kind of cancer Molly had it was often to late by the 
time it was causing a  problem which was Molly's problem. The ex ray  showed it 
had reached her  lungs & the vet said after that it was only a matter of one or 
two weeks  before it did total damage & spread to many more areas 

   I want to thank you all for your concern  & caring   Her brother Zeke , 
sister Abby, My sons Dan & John  & I were all with her when she left..The tears 
only stop for a little while  & all those wonderful memories can start the 
flow.. What an empty space  there is in our lives now... Thanks again,  Lois 

Re: CS>LL) My Thanks to all, Molly has passed.

[carolG]

So sorry Lois...always hard on all

I have a Molly who almost died last year...Sept. will be yr. since 
biposy...LUPUS..she has recovered.

Carol




From: "zzekel...@aol.com" 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 2:13:43 PM
Subject: CS>LL) My Thanks to all, Molly has passed. 

 Last night Molly was awake all night as were my  son Dan & I. She was crying & 
we knew she was in pain. We gave her  Tylenol& codeine which did not help..This 
morning she could not get up.   We knew it was time to say goodbye...The 
traveling Vet came at 11:00 to  day & Molly gently & quietly crossed over. The 
vet said that with the  kind of cancer Molly had it was often to late by the 
time it was causing a  problem which was Molly's problem. The ex ray  showed it 
had reached her  lungs & the vet said after that it was only a matter of one or 
two weeks  before it did total damage & spread to many more areas 

   I want to thank you all for your concern  & caring   Her brother Zeke , 
sister Abby, My sons Dan & John  & I were all with her when she left..The tears 
only stop for a little while  & all those wonderful memories can start the 
flow.. What an empty space  there is in our lives now... Thanks again,  Lois 

Re: CS>Yellow and Metallic - is this ok?

[cking001]

It needs to "age" a few days before adding the h2o2.


Chuck
Contents may have settled out of court.

On 8/25/2010 1:37:33 PM, Kirsteen Wright
(kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com) wrote:
> Every time I add a couple of drops of H2O2 it goes muddy. It did this with
> a batch that was perfectly clear and one that was a bit yellow. What am I
> doing wrong and is the muddy stuff still OK?
> 
> Cheers
> Kirsteen
> 
> 


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Re: CS>LL) Molly has osteo sarcoma

[Debbie Phelps]

Donna ACS,
I think we put a splash - maybe a tablespoon - of silver in about a quart of
the cat's water.  We use Mesosilver, which is, of course, spendier than
making it yourself.
Debbie

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:30 AM, Donna  wrote:

>  How much silver did you put in the cats water?  And where is the best
> place to buy it as I can't make my own.  My cat has a large lump behind his
> front leg.
> Thanks,
> Donna ACS
>
> Our cat had a big lump on his back that the vet said was cancerous.  We put
> silver in his water, and after a few weeks we could tell it was getting
> smaller.  Now, it's gone, and the vet was amazed and asked us what we did.
> For your dog's, you could try that (assuming she'll drink it) and putting
> silver with some dmso on the shoulder, topically for awhile.  Might have to
> shave the hair first, and I'd watch for signs of skin irritation.
> Hope things work out for you.
> Debbie
>
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 7:28 AM,  wrote:
>
>>  Just got back from the vet. Exray shows Molly, { 10 yr old,
>> Lab--Australian Shep. mix } has cancer in her shoulder. The vet said it is
>> the fastest spreading type of cancer. The lungs are next & then she said she
>> would only give her 3 weeks.
>>Any idea at all if there is anything that can be done & where is the
>> best site to go for information... Thanks, Lois
>>   { I'm going to post this on a couple other sites to see if anyone at all
>> can help }
>>
>
>
>

CS>H2O2 - David Williams MD

[needling around]

Here is an article I found that some might be interested in.
PT

Re: CS>hydrogen peroxide

[Smitty]

>A man named Bill Munro has been breathing ordinary
> store peroxide for well over 10 years with great results.
>Youtube has video of him =

http://tinyurl.com/36cewgj


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Re: CS>LL) My Thanks to all, Molly has passed.

[Deborah Gerard]

Thanks for giving Molly such a great life,
Deb





From: "zzekel...@aol.com" 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 4:13:43 PM
Subject: CS>LL) My Thanks to all, Molly has passed.

 Last night Molly was awake all night as were my son Dan & I. She was crying & 
we knew she was in pain. We gave her Tylenol& codeine which did not help..This 
morning she could not get up.  We knew it was time to say goodbye...The 
traveling Vet came at 11:00 to day & Molly gently & quietly crossed over. The 
vet said that with the kind of cancer Molly had it was often to late by the 
time 
it was causing a problem which was Molly's problem. The ex ray  showed it had 
reached her lungs & the vet said after that it was only a matter of one or two 
weeks before it did total damage & spread to many more areas 

   I want to thank you all for your concern & caring   Her brother Zeke , 
sister Abby, My sons Dan & John & I were all with her when she left..The tears 
only stop for a little while & all those wonderful memories can start the 
flow.. 
What an empty space there is in our lives now... Thanks again, Lois


  

RE: CS>LL) My Thanks to all, Molly has passed.

[Lisa]

My heart goes out to you and your family Lois.my Molly rest in peace.

 

Lisa

 

  _  

From: zzekel...@aol.com [mailto:zzekel...@aol.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 4:14 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>LL) My Thanks to all, Molly has passed. 

 

 Last night Molly was awake all night as were my son Dan & I. She was crying
& we knew she was in pain. We gave her Tylenol& codeine which did not
help..This morning she could not get up.  We knew it was time to say
goodbye...The traveling Vet came at 11:00 to day & Molly gently & quietly
crossed over. The vet said that with the kind of cancer Molly had it was
often to late by the time it was causing a problem which was Molly's
problem. The ex ray  showed it had reached her lungs & the vet said after
that it was only a matter of one or two weeks before it did total damage &
spread to many more areas 

   I want to thank you all for your concern & caring   Her brother Zeke
, sister Abby, My sons Dan & John & I were all with her when she left..The
tears only stop for a little while & all those wonderful memories can start
the flow.. What an empty space there is in our lives now... Thanks again,
Lois

CS>LL) My Thanks to all, Molly has passed.

[ZZekelink]

 
Last night Molly was awake all night as were my  son Dan & I. She was 
crying & we knew she was in pain. We gave her  Tylenol& codeine which did not 
help..This morning she could not get up.  We knew it was time to say 
goodbye...The traveling Vet came at 11:00 to  day & Molly gently & quietly 
crossed 
over. The vet said that with the  kind of cancer Molly had it was often to late 
by the time it was causing a  problem which was Molly's problem. The ex ray 
 showed it had reached her  lungs & the vet said after that it was only a 
matter of one or two weeks  before it did total damage & spread to many more 
areas  
I want to thank you all for your concern  & caring   Her brother Zeke , 
sister Abby, My sons Dan & John  & I were all with her when she left..The 
tears only stop for a little while  & all those wonderful memories can start 
the flow.. What an empty space  there is in our lives now... Thanks again,  
Lois

Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2010 #705

[needling around]

Hi Melly,
To avoid this problem altogether if you are past menopause you might want to 
research d-mannose.  I use 1/2 scoop per day and have not had any problems 
since I started.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: Melly Bag 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 1:10 PM
  Subject: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2010 #705


To those of us that use CS/H202 and other anti baceterial/fungal as 
nasal spray/throat/mouth wash, we have to bear in mind that our nasal 
membranes/mouth  also contain friendly bacteria, so let us not out of habit use 
it too often.  We need those friendly bacteria to be present.

Yesterday, early morning i began symptoms of UTI. I immediatley took an 
ounce of EIS/CS. The pain began to increase. I also increased my EIS/CS but 
added DMSO every 30 minutes as well as water intake and took one painkiller.  
My hubby came home to take me to the doc (an hour away) and on the say to the 
clinic, i kept urinating (on thick paper towel diapers) with pain.  I emptied 
my bladder before doc came to the room, and i all of a sudden felt fine, this  
is at noon time.  Frequency of urinating eased as well as the pain. He 
prescribed antibiotics. For fear that it would come back, i still took the 
antibiotic (3 hours later) but dropped the painkiller and EIS/CS.  Due to my 
dropping the EIS/CS, and no medication taken til 3pm, the frequency came back 
as well as light pain.  I hesitated if i should take the antibiotic coz i knew 
that CS/DMSO took care of the problem.  I write this to show that EIS/CS  with 
DMSO if taken immediately and spaced often, can eliminate the UTI.

Melly



--- On Wed, 8/25/10, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com 
 wrote:


  From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com 

  Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #705
  To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com
  Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 12:01 PM

   

Re: CS>hydrogen peroxide

[jaxi]

Because I can be math challenged 

Is there an easy way to determine how much to dilute a substance that is
already partially diluted?

For example - 35% H2O2 diluted to 3% H2O2 ... how much distilled water to
how much of the 35% to get it to 3%

I'm sure given enough time I could figure this out but those of you math
whizzes who can figure stuff out like that easily - could you help me out?

Thanks in advance,

Jaxi

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Shirley Reed  wrote:

>   A man named Bill Munro has been breathing ordinary brown bottle grocery
> and drug store peroxide for well over 10 years with great results.  Youtube
> has video of him showing exactly how to use a nasal spray pump for this.  He
> also has a website with more info.  From what I can find out, all the
> peroxide of all concentrations have stabilizers in them.  The higher the
> concentration, the more stabilizers present.  The names of the stabilizers
> might as well be Greek to me and since he has had only good come from his
> practices with it, it seems to me it is okay to use via inhale.  Just start
> slowly or you may be sorry.  My experience.  pj
>
>
>
>
>
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CS>Hydrogen Peroxide, Nasal Sprayer & Garden Applications By Bill Munro

[Brooks Bradley]

   Persons interested in obtaining
information relating to Bill Munro's  H2O2 protocol.will find it
here.
 Sincerely,
Brooks  Bradley.


http://educate-yourself.org/cn/hydrogenperoxide07feb05.shtml


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CS>Turpentine For Viruses?

[Peter Converse]

Hi Steve and all,

Anyone know if turpentine would help with chronic viruses such as EBV, CMV, 
XMRV etc?

Peter
  - Original Message - 
  From: Norton, Steve 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 1:18 PM
  Subject: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2010 #705


  I used turpentine for a case of UTI. It was very quick and effective. I took 
1 drop of pure turpentine with a half tsp of white sugar.  There were no 
observable effects other than the elimination of the infection.

   

  -  Steve N

   

CS>hydrogen peroxide

[Shirley Reed]

   A man named Bill Munro has been breathing ordinary brown bottle grocery and 
drug store peroxide for well over 10 years with great results.  Youtube has 
video of him showing exactly how to use a nasal spray pump for this.  He also 
has a website with more info.  From what I can find out, all the peroxide of 
all concentrations have stabilizers in them.  The higher the concentration, the 
more stabilizers present.  The names of the stabilizers might as well be Greek 
to me and since he has had only good come from his practices with it, it seems 
to me it is okay to use via inhale.  Just start slowly or you may be sorry.  My 
experience.  pj


  


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CS>hair loss elasticity of follicles

[Shirley Reed]

  That article at www.eidon.com about the Calcium-Silica Connection is on their 
home page and is  the first one listed.  It is short, clear, and easy to read.  
I personally felt more pliable all over after the second dose.  pj


  


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CS>using electricity for healing - Part 2

[Norton, Steve]

MEDIUM VOLTAGE:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1881954
Chronic dermal ulcer healing enhanced with monophasic pulsed electrical
stimulation.

The purposes of this randomized, double-blind, multicenter study were to
compare healing of chronic dermal ulcers treated with pulsed electrical
stimulation with healing of similar wounds treated with sham electrical
stimulation and to evaluate patient tolerance to the therapeutic
protocol. Forty-seven patients, aged 29 to 91 years, with 50 stage II,
III, and IV ulcers were randomly assigned to either a treatment group (n
= 26) or a control (sham treatment) group (n = 24). Treated wounds
received 30 minutes of pulsed cathodal electrical stimulation twice
daily at a pulse frequency of 128 pulses per second (pps) and a peak
amplitude of 29.2 mA if the wound contained necrotic tissue or any
drainage that was not serosanguinous. A saline-moistened nontreatment
electrode was applied 30.5 cm (12 in) cephalad from the wound. This
protocol was continued for 3 days after the wound was debrided or
exhibited serosanguinous drainage. Thereafter, the polarity of the
treatment electrode on the wound was changed every 3 days until the
wound progressed to a stage II classification. The pulse frequency was
then reduced to 64 pps, and the treatment electrode polarity was changed
daily until the wound was healed. Patients in the control group were
treated with the same protocol, except they received sham electrical
stimulation. After 4 weeks, wounds in the treatment and control groups
were 44% and 67% of their initial size, respectively. The healing rates
per week for the treatment and control groups were 14% and 8.25%,
respectively. The results of this study indicate that pulsed electrical
stimulation has a beneficial effect on healing stage II, III, and IV
chronic dermal ulcers.



LOW VOLTAGE:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20046232
Ultra-low microcurrent in the management of diabetes mellitus,
hypertension and chronic wounds: report of twelve cases and discussion
of mechanism of action.

Oxidative stress plays a major role in the pathogenesis of both types of
diabetes mellitus and cardiovascular diseases including hypertension.
The low levels of antioxidants accompanied by raised levels of markers
of free radical damage play a major role in delaying wound healing.
Ultra-low microcurrent presumably has an antioxidant effect, and it was
shown to accelerate wound healing. The purpose of the study is to
investigate the efficacy of ultra-low microcurrent delivered by the
Electro Pressure Regeneration Therapy (EPRT) device (EPRT
Technologies-USA, Simi Valley, CA) in the management of diabetes,
hypertension and chronic wounds. The EPRT device is an electrical device
that sends a pulsating stream of electrons in a relatively low
concentration throughout the body. The device is noninvasive and
delivers electrical currents that mimic the endogenous electric energy
of the human body. It is a rechargeable battery-operated device that
delivers a direct current (maximum of 3 milliAmperes) of one polarity
for 11.5 minutes, which then switched to the opposite polarity for
another 11.5 minutes. The resulting cycle time is approximately 23min or
0.000732 Hz and delivers a square wave bipolar current with a voltage
ranging from 5V up to a maximum of 40 V. The device produces a current
range of 3 mA down to 100 nA. Twelve patients with long standing
diabetes, hypertension and unhealed wounds were treated with EPRT. The
patients were treated approximately for 3.5 h/day/5 days a week.
Assessment of ulcer was based on scale used by National Pressure Ulcer
Advisory Panel Consensus Development Conference. Patients were
followed-up with daily measurement of blood pressure and blood glucose
level, and their requirement for medications was recorded. Treatment
continued from 2-4 months according to their response. Results showed
that diabetes mellitus and hypertension were well controlled after using
this device, and their wounds were markedly healed (30-100%). The
patients either reduced their medication or completely stopped after the
course of treatment. No side effects were reported. The mechanism of
action was discussed.




INFO ON WAVEFORMS (muscle stimulation):

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3261222
Effects of waveform on comfort during neuromuscular electrical
stimulation.

Electrical stimulation is a commonly used clinical tool, but subject and
patient comfort is still a major problem retarding its widespread
application. Stimulus waveform in combination with pulse duration can
play a major part in subject comfort. An asymmetric balanced biphasic
square waveform was perceived as comfortable and was clinically
effective in stimulating wrist flexor and extensor muscles. Subjects
preferred the square waveforms over a paired spike monophasic waveform.
In the larger quadriceps muscle group, a symmetric biphasic square wave
was perceived as more comfortable than either a monophasic paired s

CS>using electricity for healing - Part 1

[Norton, Steve]

This is in 2 parts due to its size.

On another list, the subject using electricity for healing came up.
Since we had discussed using electricity for pain relief earlier this
month I am providing some info found regarding using electricity for
healing  There appears to be three approaches: high voltage (150V),
medium voltage/currents or low voltage/ultralow currents. I suspect that
the end use might determine which approach is best for a particular
application. There is great similarity between using electricity for
healing, pain reduction or muscle stimulation. The 3 applications could
easily share common electronics. Below are some NCBI abstracts that I
think are informative
  - Steve N

GENERAL INFO:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2568073
Accelerated healing of skin ulcers by electrical stimulation and the
intracellular physiological mechanisms involved.

Evidence is reviewed (8 studies involving 215 clinical patients with
ischemic skin ulcers and 7 animal tissue or tissue culture studies) that
electrical stimulation of fibroblast cells accelerates the intracellular
biosynthesis necessary to form new granulation tissue in a healing
wound, and that both a direct local tissue effect and a circulatory
improvement occur. A model is presented in which transmembrane currents
open voltage-controlled calcium channels in fibroblast cells, causing
ATP resynthesis, activation of protein kinase mechanisms to synthesize
new cellular protein, and the DNA replication necessary for mitotic cell
division. Stimulation efficacy appears to be determined by a number of
basic electrical parameters, and judicious waveform control is
desirable.



http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20434602
Electrical stimulation therapy increases rate of healing of pressure
ulcers in community-dwelling people with spinal cord injury.

OBJECTIVE: To investigate whether electric stimulation therapy (EST)
administered as part of a community-based, interdisciplinary wound care
program accelerates healing of pressure ulcers in people with spinal
cord injury (SCI).

DESIGN: Single-blind, parallel-group, randomized, controlled, clinical
trial.

SETTING: Community-based home care setting, Ontario, Canada.

PARTICIPANTS: Adults (N=34; mean age +/- SD, 51+/-14y) with SCI and
stage II to IV pressure ulcers.

INTERVENTIONS: Subjects were stratified based on wound severity and
duration and randomly assigned to receive either a customized,
community-based standard wound care (SWC) program that included pressure
management or the wound care program plus high-voltage pulsed current
applied to the wound bed (EST+SWC).

MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: Wound healing measured by reduction in wound size
and improvement in wound appearance at 3 months of treatment with
EST+SWC or SWC.

RESULTS: The percentage decrease in wound surface area (WSA) at the end
of the intervention period was significantly greater in the EST+SWC
group (mean +/- SD, 70+/-25%) than in the SWC group (36+/-61%; P=.048).
The proportion of stage III, IV, or X pressure ulcers improving by at
least 50% WSA was significantly greater in the EST+SWC group than in the
SWC group (P=.02). Wound appearance assessed using the photographic
wound assessment tool was improved in wounds treated with EST+SWC but
not SWC alone.

CONCLUSIONS: These results demonstrate that EST can stimulate healing of
pressure ulcers of people with SCI. EST can be incorporated successfully
into an interdisciplinary wound care program in the community





I include this one because it shows that random pulses work in addition
to periodic pulses:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20559186
The effect of stochastic electrical noise on hard-to-heal wounds.

OBJECTIVE: To evaluate the effect of electrical stochastic noise
stimulation on hard-to-heal wounds.

METHOD: This open-label observational case series aimed to evaluate the
effect of the Bioelectrical Signal Therapy (BST) device on the treatment
of hard-to-heal (recalcitrant) wounds. The study group comprised nine
patients (three males and six females), with a total of 11 ulcers that
had not healed (ulcer duration range: 18 months to 20 years) despite
being treated with other standard methods. Ulcer aetiologies were: EPUAP
grade IV pressure ulcers (n=6) and grade III pressure ulcer (n=1),
vasculitic ulcer (n=1), post-actinic lesion (n=1), ischaemic (n=1) and
post-surgical lesion (n=1). The median patient age was 75. Treatment was
delivered for 30 minutes, three times a day for 60 days.

RESULTS: Four patients (five ulcers) closed completely. Ulcers in three
patients reduced in size with signs of epithelialisation. No improvement
was observed in one patient (who had paraplegia). One patient stopped
treatment due to skin irritation at electrode sites. No other adverse
effects were observed and all of the treated patients defined the
treatment as painless.

CONCLUSION: Stochastic white noise applied to hard-to-heal ulcers for 60
consecutive days reduced the wound surface area by 

Re: CS>Yellow and Metallic - is this ok?

[Kirsteen Wright]

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

> This happened when I added drops of 3% Kirsteen, but when I added 2 drops
> of 35% it went clear as day.  dee
>
> It wass 35% I used.


Cheers
Kirsteen

Re: CS>Yellow and Metallic - is this ok?

[Kirsteen Wright]

Yes, I had 2 5litre containers. One was completely clear and one was pale
tranlucent yellow. I let them sit 3 days and then added a couple of drops of
35% food grade H2O2. The one that had been clear went a muddy yellow and
more opaque and the one that had originally been pale yellow went really
muddy looking.

So far all I've been using it for is to add to the washing machine because
it looked so grotty. would it be safe to add some to the water for washing
fruit and veg?

This has sort of put me off adding H2O2. I haven't added any to the latest
lots and they're looking fine. I'm sort of scared to add any in case they go
the same way.

Cheers
Kirsteen


On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote:

> Are you letting it sit a minimum of 48 hours first?
>
> Marshall
>
> Kirsteen Wright wrote:
>
>> Every time I add a couple of drops of H2O2 it goes muddy. It did this with
>> a batch that was perfectly clear and one that was a bit yellow. What am I
>> doing wrong and is the muddy stuff still OK?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Kirsteen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Marshall Dudley 
>> > mdud...@king-cart.com>> wrote:
>>
>>It would be good for topical use. For internal I would try adding
>>a few drops of H2O2 to each glassful to see if that will clear it up.
>>
>>Marshall
>>
>>
>>joy wrote:
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>A batch with yet another different kind of distilled water
>>came out yellow with a clearly metallic taste. Is this ok?
>>
>>Joy
>>
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Re: CS>Yellow and Metallic - is this ok?

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

This happened when I added drops of 3% Kirsteen, but when I added 2 drops of 
35% it went clear as day.  dee

On 25 Aug 2010, at 18:37, Kirsteen Wright wrote:

> Every time I add a couple of drops of H2O2 it goes muddy. It did this with a 
> batch that was perfectly clear and one that was a bit yellow. What am I doing 
> wrong and is the muddy stuff still OK?
> 
> Cheers
> Kirsteen
> 
> 
> 
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Re: CS>Yellow and Metallic - is this ok?

[Marshall Dudley]

Are you letting it sit a minimum of 48 hours first?

Marshall

Kirsteen Wright wrote:
Every time I add a couple of drops of H2O2 it goes muddy. It did this 
with a batch that was perfectly clear and one that was a bit yellow. 
What am I doing wrong and is the muddy stuff still OK?


Cheers
Kirsteen




On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Marshall Dudley 
mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com>> wrote:


It would be good for topical use. For internal I would try adding
a few drops of H2O2 to each glassful to see if that will clear it up.

Marshall


joy wrote:

Hi,

A batch with yet another different kind of distilled water
came out yellow with a clearly metallic taste. Is this ok?

Joy


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Re: CS>Yellow and Metallic - is this ok?

[jaxi]

How yellow?  My understanding is a very light translucent yellow is fine.

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Kirsteen Wright <
kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Every time I add a couple of drops of H2O2 it goes muddy. It did this with
> a batch that was perfectly clear and one that was a bit yellow. What am I
> doing wrong and is the muddy stuff still OK?
>
> Cheers
> Kirsteen
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote:
>
>> It would be good for topical use. For internal I would try adding a few
>> drops of H2O2 to each glassful to see if that will clear it up.
>>
>> Marshall
>>
>>
>> joy wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> A batch with yet another different kind of distilled water came out
>>> yellow with a clearly metallic taste. Is this ok?
>>>
>>> Joy
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Re: CS>Yellow and Metallic - is this ok?

[Kirsteen Wright]

Every time I add a couple of drops of H2O2 it goes muddy. It did this with a
batch that was perfectly clear and one that was a bit yellow. What am I
doing wrong and is the muddy stuff still OK?

Cheers
Kirsteen




On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote:

> It would be good for topical use. For internal I would try adding a few
> drops of H2O2 to each glassful to see if that will clear it up.
>
> Marshall
>
>
> joy wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> A batch with yet another different kind of distilled water came out yellow
>> with a clearly metallic taste. Is this ok?
>>
>> Joy
>>
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CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2010 #705

[Norton, Steve]

I used turpentine for a case of UTI. It was very quick and effective. I
took 1 drop of pure turpentine with a half tsp of white sugar.  There
were no observable effects other than the elimination of the infection.

 

-  Steve N

 

From: Melly Bag [mailto:tita_...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 10:10 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL:CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2010 #705

 

To those of us that use CS/H202 and other anti baceterial/fungal as
nasal spray/throat/mouth wash, we have to bear in mind that our nasal
membranes/mouth  also contain friendly bacteria, so let us not out of
habit use it too often.  We need those friendly bacteria to be present.

 

Yesterday, early morning i began symptoms of UTI. I immediatley took an
ounce of EIS/CS. The pain began to increase. I also increased my EIS/CS
but added DMSO every 30 minutes as well as water intake and took one
painkiller.  My hubby came home to take me to the doc (an hour away) and
on the say to the clinic, i kept urinating (on thick paper towel
diapers) with pain.  I emptied my bladder before doc came to the room,
and i all of a sudden felt fine, this  is at noon time.  Frequency of
urinating eased as well as the pain. He prescribed antibiotics. For fear
that it would come back, i still took the antibiotic (3 hours later) but
dropped the painkiller and EIS/CS.  Due to my dropping the EIS/CS, and
no medication taken til 3pm, the frequency came back as well as light
pain.  I hesitated if i should take the antibiotic coz i knew that
CS/DMSO took care of the problem.  I write this to show that EIS/CS
with DMSO if taken immediately and spaced often, can eliminate the UTI.

 

Melly

 

 

 

 

Re: CS>LL) Molly has osteo sarcoma

[jaxi]

Donna are you in the US?  Maybe you can find one of us home brewers in your
area who will share.  I know I would be happy to share if you are in my area
(Mpls, MN).  Because honestly it is cost prohibative to buy - if you're
going to buy it in any quantity you might as well buy a silverpuppy because
you make your money back pretty much from the first batch.

Jaxi

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Donna  wrote:

> How much silver did you put in the cats water?  And where is the best place
> to buy it as I can't make my own.  My cat has a large lump behind his front
> leg.
> Thanks,
> Donna ACS
>
> Our cat had a big lump on his back that the vet said was cancerous.  We put
> silver in his water, and after a few weeks we could tell it was getting
> smaller.  Now, it's gone, and the vet was amazed and asked us what we did.
> For your dog's, you could try that (assuming she'll drink it) and putting
> silver with some dmso on the shoulder, topically for awhile.  Might have to
> shave the hair first, and I'd watch for signs of skin irritation.
> Hope things work out for you.
> Debbie
>
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 7:28 AM,  wrote:
>
>>  Just got back from the vet. Exray shows Molly, { 10 yr old,
>> Lab--Australian Shep. mix } has cancer in her shoulder. The vet said it is
>> the fastest spreading type of cancer. The lungs are next & then she said she
>> would only give her 3 weeks.
>>Any idea at all if there is anything that can be done & where is the
>> best site to go for information... Thanks, Lois
>>   { I'm going to post this on a couple other sites to see if anyone at all
>> can help }
>>
>
>
>

CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2010 #705

[Melly Bag]

To those of us that use CS/H202 and other anti baceterial/fungal as nasal 
spray/throat/mouth wash, we have to bear in mind that our nasal membranes/mouth 
 also contain friendly bacteria, so let us not out of habit use it too often.  
We need those friendly bacteria to be present.
 
Yesterday, early morning i began symptoms of UTI. I immediatley took an ounce 
of EIS/CS. The pain began to increase. I also increased my EIS/CS but added 
DMSO every 30 minutes as well as water intake and took one painkiller.  My 
hubby came home to take me to the doc (an hour away) and on the say to the 
clinic, i kept urinating (on thick paper towel diapers) with pain.  I emptied 
my bladder before doc came to the room, and i all of a sudden felt fine, this  
is at noon time.  Frequency of urinating eased as well as the pain. He 
prescribed antibiotics. For fear that it would come back, i still took the 
antibiotic (3 hours later) but dropped the painkiller and EIS/CS.  Due to my 
dropping the EIS/CS, and no medication taken til 3pm, the frequency came back 
as well as light pain.  I hesitated if i should take the antibiotic coz i knew 
that CS/DMSO took care of the problem.  I write this to show that EIS/CS  with 
DMSO if taken immediately and spaced
 often, can eliminate the UTI.
 
Melly
 
 
 
--- On Wed, 8/25/10, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com 
 wrote:


From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com 
Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #705
To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 12:01 PM

Re: CS>hydrogen peroxide - Ode help!!

[needling around]

Thanks, Dee.
PT

- Original Message - 
From: "Dorothy Fitzpatrick" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: CS>hydrogen peroxide - Ode help!!


I can't find it either PT but Ode posted it in illustration form so 
hopefully he will jump in here.  dee


On 25 Aug 2010, at 15:50, needling around wrote:


Hi Dee,
I found the discussion of peroxide and what it does but I didn't find 
anything on the website that discussed 3% vs 35%.  Would you send the web 
address for the page?


Or Ode if you read this would you comment on 3% v 35% peroxide for 
breaking down particle size?... or anyone else???

Thanks.
PT




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Re: CS>hydrogen peroxide - Ode help!!

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I can't find it either PT but Ode posted it in illustration form so hopefully 
he will jump in here.  dee

On 25 Aug 2010, at 15:50, needling around wrote:

> Hi Dee,
> I found the discussion of peroxide and what it does but I didn't find 
> anything on the website that discussed 3% vs 35%.  Would you send the web 
> address for the page?
>  
> Or Ode if you read this would you comment on 3% v 35% peroxide for breaking 
> down particle size?... or anyone else???
> Thanks.
> PT
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Re: CS>LL) Molly has osteo sarcoma

[Donna]

 How much silver did you put in the cats water?  And where is the best 
place to buy it as I can't make my own.  My cat has a large lump behind 
his front leg.

Thanks,
Donna ACS
Our cat had a big lump on his back that the vet said was cancerous.  
We put silver in his water, and after a few weeks we could tell it was 
getting smaller.  Now, it's gone, and the vet was amazed and asked us 
what we did.
For your dog's, you could try that (assuming she'll drink it) and 
putting silver with some dmso on the shoulder, topically for awhile.  
Might have to shave the hair first, and I'd watch for signs of skin 
irritation.

Hope things work out for you.
Debbie

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 7:28 AM, > wrote:


Just got back from the vet. Exray shows Molly, { 10 yr old,
Lab--Australian Shep. mix } has cancer in her shoulder. The vet
said it is the fastest spreading type of cancer. The lungs are
next & then she said she would only give her 3 weeks.
   Any idea at all if there is anything that can be done & where
is the best site to go for information... Thanks, Lois
  { I'm going to post this on a couple other sites to see if
anyone at all can help }

Re: CS>hair loss

[carolG]

What about elasticity as my follicles seem weak? This?
Thanks.
carol





From: Shirley Reed 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 9:20:34 AM
Subject: CS>hair loss

  In addition to the excellent items already mentioned, I will suggest that you 
include copious amounts of iodine taken internally and the liquid silica 
supplement from www.eidon.com.  Try to get Lugol's Solution of iodine since it 
contains the two forms of iodine most needed by the body.  Eidon has a very 
excellent article about the need for silica.  Info on iodine is all over the 
net.   Best wishes,  pj  



  


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T

CS>hair loss

[Shirley Reed]

  In addition to the excellent items already mentioned, I will suggest that you 
include copious amounts of iodine taken internally and the liquid silica 
supplement from www.eidon.com.  Try to get Lugol's Solution of iodine since it 
contains the two forms of iodine most needed by the body.  Eidon has a very 
excellent article about the need for silica.  Info on iodine is all over the 
net.   Best wishes,  pj  


  


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Re: CS>hydrogen peroxide

[Marshall Dudley]

It is simply a matter of concentration.  The articles which discuss it 
are referring to 3%.  So if you use 35% you use about 1/11 or 1/12 as 
much.  For instance instead of using 4 drops in a glass of CS, you would 
use about 1/3 of a drop.


Marshall

needling around wrote:

Hi Dee,
I found the discussion of peroxide and what it does but I didn't find 
anything on the website that discussed 3% vs 35%.  Would you send the 
web address for the page?
 
Or Ode if you read this would you comment on 3% v 35% peroxide for 
breaking down particle size?... or anyone else???

Thanks.
PT
 


- Original Message -
*From:* Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com 
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 24, 2010 7:40 AM
*Subject:* Re: CS>hydrogen peroxide

Ode says it is.  If you look at the Silver Puppy website it shows
how it is done.  dee


On 23/08/2010 22:23, "needling around" mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:

Hi,
Can anyone tell me if 3% hydrogen peroxide is acceptable for
breaking down the CS molecule size?  I cannot find any food
grade 35% locally and I'll be dogonned if I'm going to pay $19
s/h for $18 worth of product!

Thanks.
PT




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Re: CS>hydrogen peroxide

[needling around]

Re: CS>hydrogen peroxideHi Dee,
I found the discussion of peroxide and what it does but I didn't find anything 
on the website that discussed 3% vs 35%.  Would you send the web address for 
the page?

Or Ode if you read this would you comment on 3% v 35% peroxide for breaking 
down particle size?... or anyone else???
Thanks.
PT

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 7:40 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>hydrogen peroxide


  Ode says it is.  If you look at the Silver Puppy website it shows how it is 
done.  dee


  On 23/08/2010 22:23, "needling around"  wrote:


Hi,
Can anyone tell me if 3% hydrogen peroxide is acceptable for breaking down 
the CS molecule size?  I cannot find any food grade 35% locally and I'll be 
dogonned if I'm going to pay $19 s/h for $18 worth of product!

Thanks.
PT

Re: CS>Yellow and Metallic - is this ok?

[Marshall Dudley]

It would be good for topical use. For internal I would try adding a few 
drops of H2O2 to each glassful to see if that will clear it up.


Marshall

joy wrote:

Hi,

A batch with yet another different kind of distilled water came out 
yellow with a clearly metallic taste. Is this ok?


Joy


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Re: CS>LL) Molly has osteo sarcoma

[Gayla Roberts]

What is the source for your black salver? There are so many...
Gayla
  - Original Message - 
  From: Teri 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 4:57 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>LL) Molly has osteo sarcoma


  I just used a black salve to remove a breast tumor from my dog.  Contact 
lizardha...@juno.com  about joining her group 2053 at google groups and getting 
her BS.

  Teri Kavakos


  At 11:28 AM 8/24/2010, you wrote:

Just got back from the vet. Exray shows Molly, { 10 yr old, Lab--Australian 
Shep. mix } has cancer in her shoulder. The vet said it is the fastest 
spreading type of cancer. The lungs are next & then she said she would only 
give her 3 weeks. 
   Any idea at all if there is anything that can be done & where is the 
best site to go for information... Thanks, Lois
  { I'm going to post this on a couple other sites to see if anyone at all 
can help }

Re: CS>OT hair loss

[needling around]

And for hair let's not forget diatomaceous earth!

Also since she has had cancer you might want to research a product called 
CAN-HELP.  It is pricey but you don't take much per dose.  I'm not ill and I 
am taking only a tablespoon a day and I can feel the difference.  Also for 
the recovery you might want to research liposomal encapsulated Vit C.


And don't forget... at that age be making wonderful memories to last the 
rest of your lifetime.

PT


- Original Message - 
From: "Tony Moody" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 2:00 AM
Subject: Re: CS>OT hair loss



Hi Dianne,

I would get her onto freshly juiced fruit and veg. Add honey and vit C
powder to taste. . Plus any other food she likes.

Think detox :
Gentle lymph drainage type massage, she can do a lot of that herself on
tum, arms and legs, neck and face.

Skin brushing
Colonics
Regular bowel movenmts two or three per day would be good.
Alkalising
Breathing exercises. Singing is very good for that.

OK,
Tony

On 24 Aug 2010 at 19:04, Dianne France wrote about :
Subject : CS>OT hair loss



Hello Group

I need some advice for my 85 year old mother. She had a colostomy done 4
months ago due to diverticulitis with partial bowel removal. We almost
lost her to pneumonia after the surgery. She is clinically blind. She had
a cancer (6 mo ago) in her ear that was removed and small radiation done
on the spot. The doctors didn't tell her they did radiation until much
later. She has started losing her hair. This has started happening in the
last two months and it is coming out by handfuls. I'm afraid she is not
eating a proper diet, maybe not enough protein. She lives with my 
daughter

and family. She was always very healthy until this last year. Anyway, I
need some advice as to supplements that might help her retain her hair. 
It

is the one thing she has left that she enjoys having fixed. I don't know
where to start on this one so I am turning to you guys.

Dianne




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Re: CS>LL) Molly has osteo sarcoma

[Teri]

I just used a black salve to remove a breast tumor from my dog.  Contact 
lizardha...@juno.com  about joining her group 2053 at google groups and 
getting her BS.


Teri Kavakos


At 11:28 AM 8/24/2010, you wrote:
Just got back from the vet. Exray shows Molly, { 10 yr old, 
Lab--Australian Shep. mix } has cancer in her shoulder. The vet said it is 
the fastest spreading type of cancer. The lungs are next & then she said 
she would only give her 3 weeks.
   Any idea at all if there is anything that can be done & where is the 
best site to go for information... Thanks, Lois
  { I'm going to post this on a couple other sites to see if anyone at 
all can help }