Re: CSpwt vs tds

2010-11-04 Thread Beth

 Okay lots of great info regarding
 water etc however
 I am not sure what is the difference between this hanna
 pwt
 and a TDS that I also see people talk about.
 Does the pwt meter read differently?
 
 My second batch of water came out high around 2.3 and then
 after it
 cooled over an hour or so, it came down somewhat also.
 My batch last night was 2.8 and in the morning was below
 .7
 I mixed my second batch with the first and its at 1.4
 
 
 Strange.
 =Beth
 
UPDATE on that water reading.
This morning that same 1.4 batch of water reads .7 !!
Does it change as time goes bye? I don't really understand this.

Just to experiment, I am now re distilling that water to see what
comes of it. Then I will try my first batch of silver.

Any input would be appreciated.
Beth



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RE: CSMercury Filling vit C

2010-11-04 Thread PT Ferrance
One good way to get rid of mercury is by Bowen treatments if you can find a 
practitioner near you.  Just get a basic Bowen treatment and you will eliminate 
mercury.  I've seen it tested and it works.
PT

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From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSMercury Filling  vit C
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, November 3, 2010, 5:40 PM


A couple of cautions: 

Don't take oral vitamin C before the procedure, as it will make the 
novocaine less effective. That's why IV C during or immediately after 
the procedure is preferred.

I don't remember how long before the procedure you'd want to stop 
taking any oral C, but if I had to guess on the basis of my vague 
recollection, it would probably be at least 12 hours. Maybe somebody 
else knows this?

Lacking the IV option, hopefully liposomal encapsulated C will serve.

The other caution is this: If this is your last or only mercury 
containing filling, once it is removed be prepared for your body to 
begin to mobilize the mercury you've absorbed over the years in an 
attempt to get rid of it now that you're not under the daily assault of 
ongoing exposure.

Once the new exposure stops, your body will change gears and start 
trying to get rid of it. The problem is the eliminative pathways are so 
inefficient that blood levels of mercury will climb and you'll be at 
risk of toxic effects as bad or worse than if you left the filling in 
place.

To combat this, you'll want to actively pursue therapies to help your 
body eliminate mercury faster, such as daily FIR sauna or other means 
of sweating copiously, oral chelation therapies, etc...

Peace,

Mike D.


 What about regular vit C in large doses or powdered acerola? Jess
   -Original Message-
   From: Jon [mailto:p888p...@yahoo.com]
   Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 3:20 PM
   To: silver list
   Cc: Pat
   Subject: CSMercury Filling
 
 
   Hi Pat,
 
   Some doctors will give vitamin C by IV after mercury-filling removal
   to
 chelate the mercury that is freed by the dental procedure. You could
 make your own liposomal Vitamin C for this purpose, instead of IV.
 
 
 

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Re: CSdistiller/ppm/hanna meter

2010-11-04 Thread Ode Coyote



  Not good procedure.
However, the fluid is just salt water.
Once you have the meter reading right, make a quart of your own using the 
meter.
 It doesn't have to be 84 uS, just note what it is, somewhere in the 
neighborhood.
 When reading it, make sure everything is at and stays at the SAME 
temperature.
Use a NEW bottle to keep it in to avoid contamination leaching over time 
and keep it tightly capped.


Ode


At 07:37 AM 11/3/2010 -0700, you wrote:
Trem, Do you think its okay to pour the solution into a glass, set the 
calibration and pour the solution back into the bottle to use at later 
time? thanks Beth  A  Now I have to do it over again LOL  I 
just reset it  I should have just talked to someone over the phone!!  
Lots of contradicting info all over the place ... whats is  one to do?  
Too funny!  Beth Do NOT use the chart on the   calibration 
solution bottle.  The meter   automatically compensates for temperature 
using the   thermocouple on the   lower left side of the meter.  Set 
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Re: CSdistiller/ppm/hanna meter

2010-11-04 Thread Ode Coyote



  Yea, well..don't call Hanna Tech.  They'll just tell you that you aren't 
seeing what you are looking at.


Ode



At 07:33 AM 11/3/2010 -0700, you wrote:
A Now I have to do it over again LOL I just reset it I should 
have just talked to someone over the phone!! Lots of contradicting info 
all over the place ... whats is one to do? Too funny! Beth  Do NOT use 
the chart on the  calibration solution bottle.  The meter  automatically 
compensates for temperature using the  thermocouple on the  lower left 
side of the meter.  Set it to 84.0   Trem  



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Re: CSdistiller/ppm/hanna meter

2010-11-04 Thread Ode Coyote



  AND leave the meter and sample cup and fluid in the SAME place over 
night so they will be the SAME temperature.
 Hold neither the sample cup nor the meter tightly to avoid changing the 
temperature of either WHILE calibrating.


Ode


At 07:14 AM 11/3/2010 -0700, you wrote:
Do NOT use the chart on the calibration solution bottle.  The meter 
automatically compensates for temperature using the thermocouple on the 
lower left side of the meter.  Set it to 84.0


Trem


- Original Message - From: Beth csilverl...@yahoo.ca
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 6:53 AM
Subject: Re: CSdistiller/ppm/hanna meter



Actually I just realized that the temperature in my house
was not 77degrees. So this morning I reset the pwt meter using the
room temperature. I had to bring the calibration from 84 down to 76.
I wonder how that would impact my readings.

I am distilling water again.

Also, the distilled water read 2.8 last night but it was still warm
and this morning after it cooled down it read 0.7

I have to find the chart that helps me understand what that means in ppm.

I think if it reads 1.0 it means .4 ppm
My tap water reads 1   .  That is 1space space decimal point. So I believe
it is over its capacity!

Beth



Filter the water before distilling,
not after.

Dan

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Beth csilverl...@yahoo.ca
wrote:
 Okay so I did my first batch of water in the
distiller.
 No filter.
 I calaborated my hanna pwt to 84.0 as per solution
requirements.
 Then tested the first batch of distilled water.
 It reads 2.8

 So is that because I have no filter? or maybe because
it is the
 first time I used the unit. I dont know.
 I will do another batch tomorrow and see what it comes
out to.

 It should be 0 to begin with right?

 Beth



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Re: CSPromising Wrinkled lSkin Treatment

2010-11-04 Thread mborgert


Brooks
I went to the site to purchase the collegan but there are two kinds, one from 
chickens and one from beef.
Thanks for the information
Mary



From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com
To: Silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 2:27:35 PM
Subject: CSPromising Wrinkled lSkin Treatment

                      Recently, while evaluating various
Do-it-Yourself protocols for alleviating some of the more
pronounced effects of wrinkled skin around the face (especially the
eyes) and on the hands..we came upon
a quite effective protocol.  Not only measurably effective, but quite
economical in cost.
                      The protocol consisted of diluting hydrolyzed
collagen powder with distilled water ( substituted 10 ppm CS in cases
presenting with skin abrasions), and mixing with undiluted DMSO as
follows:  (1) into about 1 cup of distilled water or CS,
added powdered hydrolyzed collagen to saturation point (no more powder
would go into solution) (2)  using this solution as the
parent (75% by volume), mixed in DMSO (25% by volume) and allowed to
cool to room temperature.
                      Candidate skin surface was prepared by light
washing/rinsing, using weak soap solution.  Damp drying and
applying, generously.the Collagen X DMSO solution (using care
about the eyes, due to the hygroscopic nature of DMSO).
Allow 5 to 10 minutes for proper absorption.  A shiny surface
appearance is quite normalas is a slightly sticky feel on the
fingers
when moved across the treated surface.
                        Obvious Results:  Immediately, it becomes
evident that the very small wrinkles are noticeably reduced in
appearance
(a result of the hydrating of the outer skin layers), as the tiny
valleys appear to fill-in as the entrained moisture penetrates AND
softens.
While the larger wrinkles (containing the higher densities of
free-standing lean tissue) present a much lower degree of
improvement..
they do enjoy a noticeable/marked improvement in softness-due,
primarily, to the improved hydration.
                        Overall enhancement in skin softness and
general pliability,  presents immediately and is evident to even the
most skeptical
(at least that has been our, repeatable, experience).
                          When this protocol is repeated twice daily,
the general improvement in reduced wrinkling effect and skin surface
pliability
becomes quite evident.
                          Note:  Due to the residual effect of the
excess collagen on the skin surface (gives a glazed appearance), a
woman
might desire to remove this...simply by wiping with a damp
cloth--before applying make-up or just leaving it au natural
after the wiping.
                          We achieved similar results with several
different suppliers' hydrolyzed collagen product, but the most
effective
appeared to be the Instantized variety from Beyond-a-Century.  We
purchased the Hydrolyzed Collagen in the 1 lb. containers
at reasonable cost from all suppliers.
                            It is of note that care is recommended
when applying the DMSO X COLLAGEN  solution close to the eyes.
Although
there is no demonstrated danger in case some material got on to the
eyeball and/or the lid..the hygroscopic effect of even 25% DMSO
could result in sensations akin to burning..  Therefore, care in
application should be shown.
                            I hope this information is of value to
some of the list members..in their personal experimental health
endeavors.
                                                Sincerely,    Brooks Bradley.
p.s.  There is, some, evidence that entrained collagen is
depositing in the lean tissue fractions underlying the skin layers.
We have not
employed testing that would, conclusively, substantiate this
indication.  Such testing involves rather costly endeavors..and we
are not in the cosmetics
business.so will not undertake such action.  However, such
measures might well appeal to persons who are, commercially,  active
in this field.


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CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #865

2010-11-04 Thread Melly Bag
Hi Mr. Bradley,
 
I am currently using the Colloidal Silver, DMSO and glycerine
mix you previously gave.  Can i just add the collagen to saturation point in 
the mix?
 
Thanks.
 
Melly
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Re: CSlong and short rods

2010-11-04 Thread Marshall Dudley
You have to look at the electric field distribution. If you have a short 
wire, then you are going to have a much higher voltage drop near the 
wire as the resistance will be higher.  I do know that when I was making 
CS with short wires  it required 10,000 volts to get the current flow.  
So, yes it will work, but you might need to use much higher voltages, 
and t some point heat generation becomes a problem. I had to have a 2 
ton refrigeration unit on my unit to keep it cool when I did that.


Marshall

On 11/3/2010 7:39 PM, Beth wrote:

Hi again,
new subject here...
I have seen a video online that where the guys says
  you don't have to use 2 long silver
rods. That you only need 1 long (the one the silver comes off of)
and the one that has the charge, it only needs to be a short wire and
that it will conduct the other wire no matter how long or short it is.
Any thoughts on that?

Beth



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RE: CSMercury Filling vit C

2010-11-04 Thread Renee
Hey PT.  I've heard of Bowen.  How does a massage get rid of mercury?

Samala,
Renee 
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
 
One good way to get rid of mercury is by Bowen treatments if you can find a
practitioner near you.  Just get a basic Bowen treatment and you will
eliminate mercury.  I've seen it tested and it works.
PT

--- On Wed, 11/3/10, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote:


From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSMercury Filling  vit C
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, November 3, 2010, 5:40 PM


A couple of cautions: 

Don't take oral vitamin C before the procedure, as it will make the 
novocaine less effective. That's why IV C during or immediately after 
the procedure is preferred.

I don't remember how long before the procedure you'd want to stop 
taking any oral C, but if I had to guess on the basis of my vague 
recollection, it would probably be at least 12 hours. Maybe somebody 
else knows this?

Lacking the IV option, hopefully liposomal encapsulated C will serve.

The other caution is this: If this is your last or only mercury 
containing filling, once it is removed be prepared for your body to 
begin to mobilize the mercury you've absorbed over the years in an 
attempt to get rid of it now that you're not under the daily assault of 
ongoing exposure.

Once the new exposure stops, your body will change gears and start 
trying to get rid of it. The problem is the eliminative pathways are so 
inefficient that blood levels of mercury will climb and you'll be at 
risk of toxic effects as bad or worse than if you left the filling in 
place.

To combat this, you'll want to actively pursue therapies to help your 
body eliminate mercury faster, such as daily FIR sauna or other means 
of sweating copiously, oral chelation therapies, etc...

Peace,

Mike D.


 What about regular vit C in large doses or powdered acerola? Jess
   -Original Message-
   From: Jon [mailto:p888p...@yahoo.com]
   Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 3:20 PM
   To: silver list
   Cc: Pat
   Subject: CSMercury Filling
 
 
   Hi Pat,
 
   Some doctors will give vitamin C by IV after mercury-filling removal
   to
 chelate the mercury that is freed by the dental procedure. You could
 make your own liposomal Vitamin C for this purpose, instead of IV.
 
 
 

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
[Speaking only for myself...   ]


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RE: CSMercury Filling vit C

2010-11-04 Thread PT Ferrance
Hi Renee,
Bowen is not massage.  It is an adjustment of the autonomic nervous system by 
subtle movements across muscles at specific points.  
PT

--- On Thu, 11/4/10, Renee gaiac...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Renee gaiac...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: CSMercury Filling  vit C
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, November 4, 2010, 5:43 PM



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Hey PT.  I've heard of Bowen.  How does a massage get rid of mercury?
 
Samala,
Renee 
 
 

 
 

---Original Message---
 
 




One good way to get rid of mercury is by Bowen treatments if you can find a 
practitioner near you.  Just get a basic Bowen treatment and you will eliminate 
mercury.  I've seen it tested and it works.
PT

--- On Wed, 11/3/10, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote:


From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSMercury Filling  vit C
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, November 3, 2010, 5:40 PM


A couple of cautions: 

Don't take oral vitamin C before the procedure, as it will make the 
novocaine less effective. That's why IV C during or immediately after 
the procedure is preferred.

I don't remember how long before the procedure you'd want to stop 
taking any oral C, but if I had to guess on the basis of my vague 
recollection, it would probably be at least 12 hours. Maybe somebody 
else knows this?

Lacking the IV option, hopefully liposomal encapsulated C will serve.

The other caution is this: If this is your last or only mercury 
containing filling, once it is removed be prepared for your body to 
begin to mobilize the mercury you've absorbed over the years in an 
attempt to get rid of it now that you're not under the daily assault of 
ongoing exposure.

Once the new exposure stops, your body will change gears and start 
trying to get rid of it. The problem is the eliminative pathways are so 
inefficient that blood levels of mercury will climb and you'll be at 
risk of toxic effects as bad or worse than if you left the filling in 
place.

To combat this, you'll want to actively pursue therapies to help your 
body eliminate mercury faster, such as daily FIR sauna or other means 
of sweating copiously, oral chelation therapies, etc...

Peace,

Mike D.


 What about regular vit C in large doses or powdered acerola? Jess
   -Original Message-
   From: Jon [mailto:p888p...@yahoo.com]
   Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 3:20 PM
   To: silver list
   Cc: Pat
   Subject: CSMercury Filling
 
 
   Hi Pat,
 
   Some doctors will give vitamin C by IV after mercury-filling removal
   to
 chelate the mercury that is freed by the dental procedure. You could
 make your own liposomal Vitamin C for this purpose, instead of IV.
 
 
 

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com                        ]
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RE: CSMercury Filling vit C

2010-11-04 Thread Renee
Ah, thanks PT.  Years ago I talked to a lady (the only certified Bowen
practitioner around here then) about my Mom's rotator cuff problem.  She
said that she use to be a sports massage therapist, but gave it up in favor
of Bowen.  Also, that Bowen took care of all her clients with the rotator
cuff problem, so that they didn't need surgery.  But Mom didn't trust anyone
but her doctors, so she had the surgery.  She'd had many surgeries in the
past, but said that the cuff one was the worse she'd ever experienced!

So I guess I was just assuming Bowen was another form of massage. 

Samala,
Renee
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
 
Hi Renee,
Bowen is not massage.  It is an adjustment of the autonomic nervous system
by subtle movements across muscles at specific points.  
PT

--- On Thu, 11/4/10, Renee gaiac...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Renee gaiac...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: CSMercury Filling  vit C
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, November 4, 2010, 5:43 PM


Hey PT.  I've heard of Bowen.  How does a massage get rid of mercury?
 
Samala,
Renee 
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
 
One good way to get rid of mercury is by Bowen treatments if you can find a
practitioner near you.  Just get a basic Bowen treatment and you will
eliminate mercury.  I've seen it tested and it works.
PT

--- On Wed, 11/3/10, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote:


From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSMercury Filling  vit C
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, November 3, 2010, 5:40 PM


A couple of cautions: 

Don't take oral vitamin C before the procedure, as it will make the 
novocaine less effective. That's why IV C during or immediately after 
the procedure is preferred.

I don't remember how long before the procedure you'd want to stop 
taking any oral C, but if I had to guess on the basis of my vague 
recollection, it would probably be at least 12 hours. Maybe somebody 
else knows this?

Lacking the IV option, hopefully liposomal encapsulated C will serve.

The other caution is this: If this is your last or only mercury 
containing filling, once it is removed be prepared for your body to 
begin to mobilize the mercury you've absorbed over the years in an 
attempt to get rid of it now that you're not under the daily assault of 
ongoing exposure.

Once the new exposure stops, your body will change gears and start 
trying to get rid of it. The problem is the eliminative pathways are so 
inefficient that blood levels of mercury will climb and you'll be at 
risk of toxic effects as bad or worse than if you left the filling in 
place.

To combat this, you'll want to actively pursue therapies to help your 
body eliminate mercury faster, such as daily FIR sauna or other means 
of sweating copiously, oral chelation therapies, etc...

Peace,

Mike D.


 What about regular vit C in large doses or powdered acerola? Jess
   -Original Message-
   From: Jon [mailto:p888p...@yahoo.com]
   Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 3:20 PM
   To: silver list
   Cc: Pat
   Subject: CSMercury Filling
 
 
   Hi Pat,
 
   Some doctors will give vitamin C by IV after mercury-filling removal
   to
 chelate the mercury that is freed by the dental procedure. You could
 make your own liposomal Vitamin C for this purpose, instead of IV.
 
 
 

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
[Speaking only for myself...   ]


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CSmaking first batch need input please

2010-11-04 Thread Beth
Hi all. Just about to make my first batch however I would like
input as to how to do this properly.
The instructions from the company says to make the water hot
to boiling point. But this is to make yellow silver.
I dont want to make yellow product.
So... Im thinking: do I need to heat the water or should
I just plug it in and let it go and see how long it takes
at room temp.?

Also, how far apart should I put the probes? I have it in a
750ml jar. (Which is 5 cups of water.)

I dont have a silver puppy or something to stir it as it cooks. I 
wish I did but I spent tons on everything I have so far and
cant just go out and buy another one at this time.

Beth






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Re: CSmaking first batch need input please

2010-11-04 Thread Marshalee Hallett
Hi, Beth,
 I`m Marshalee, an oldie on the List. I`ve been using CS for 14 years now.
I`m a Lyme Disease survivor thanks to CS.
  I make my own CS with a gadget that plugs in the wall, giving me 30 volts.
(I have used the 3 9-volt batteries and salt method, but this works
better.)
I use 2 cups of room temp. DW, and 2 five-inch long pieces of 14 gauge .999
fine silver wires. I hook them to the box with alligator clips, and use a
glass 2-cup measuring cup, used only for CS making. I leave it for 1 hour
which gives about 18 PPM clear CS. Thanks to CS I`m well, and I`m not blue
or gray (other than the hair, and well, I`m 58 now, so yes it IS supposed to
be gray!) The CS has worked well for my animals too.
I hope this will help! Let me know if you have any other questions.
Marshalee

On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Beth csilverl...@yahoo.ca wrote:

 Hi all. Just about to make my first batch however I would like
 input as to how to do this properly.
 The instructions from the company says to make the water hot
 to boiling point. But this is to make yellow silver.
 I dont want to make yellow product.
 So... Im thinking: do I need to heat the water or should
 I just plug it in and let it go and see how long it takes
 at room temp.?

 Also, how far apart should I put the probes? I have it in a
 750ml jar. (Which is 5 cups of water.)

 I dont have a silver puppy or something to stir it as it cooks. I
 wish I did but I spent tons on everything I have so far and
 cant just go out and buy another one at this time.

 Beth






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Re: CSmaking first batch need input please

2010-11-04 Thread Beth
Thanks so much Marshalee
I put the electrodes 1.5 inches apart and I am using the gadget that only uses 
1 battery
even though it says it has 0-33volts(I am not sure how that works.)
Anyway, it has a 20 min timer and every 20 min I am calculating the water with
hanna pwt meter.
So far I have
started at .1
20 min later:
.3
.9
3.4 had to wipe of black residue this round
So it seems to be doubling every 20 min

I will post the results when it is done.
Trying to get to 10ppm without going yellow. And I need to calculate it from the
pwt chart to get it to ppm. 1=.4 so I have a ways to go.

I dont mind having a battery unit as it will be handy if we have power outage
I'd like to invest in a wall unit in the future... along with a zapper.
Trying to get healthy in a natural way and hopefully help others in my family 
with ailments that dont seem to get better with modern medicine.

Beth



Hi, Beth,  I`m Marshalee, an oldie on the List. I`ve been using CS for 14 years 
now. I`m a Lyme Disease survivor thanks to CS.  I make my own CS with a gadget 
that plugs in the wall, giving me 30 volts. (I have used the 3 9-volt batteries 
and salt method, but this works better.) 
I use 2 cups of room temp. DW, and 2 five-inch long pieces of 14 gauge .999 
fine silver wires. I hook them to the box with alligator clips, and use a glass 
2-cup measuring cup, used only for CS making. I leave it for 1 hour which gives 
about 18 PPM clear CS. Thanks to CS I`m well, and I`m not blue or gray (other 
than the hair, and well, I`m 58 now, so yes it IS supposed to be gray!) The CS 
has worked well for my animals too.
I hope this will help! Let me know if you have any other questions.Marshalee
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Beth csilverl...@yahoo.ca wrote:

Hi all. Just about to make my first batch however I would like

input as to how to do this properly.

The instructions from the company says to make the water hot

to boiling point. But this is to make yellow silver.

I dont want to make yellow product.

So... Im thinking: do I need to heat the water or should

I just plug it in and let it go and see how long it takes

at room temp.?



Also, how far apart should I put the probes? I have it in a

750ml jar. (Which is 5 cups of water.)



I dont have a silver puppy or something to stir it as it cooks. I

wish I did but I spent tons on everything I have so far and

cant just go out and buy another one at this time.



Beth





Re: CSmaking first batch need input please/Final Results

2010-11-04 Thread Beth
My Final Results: 
Hanna Pwt meter reading
Started with  0.2 distilled water
+20 min = 0.3
+20 min = 0.9
+20 min = 3.4 some black res on one electrode(off with paper towel)
+20 min= 5.6 some black res on both(off with pt each time after this)
+20 min=10.4
+20 min=17.8
+10 min= 20.8
+ 5 min= 23.8
+ 5 min= 25.2

total 1 hour 40 min
750 ml water(3 cups)
25.2 x 0.4 = 10ppm

I tasted 1 tbs. I could not taste anything at first I just took half of the tbs,
 then with the rest in my mouth and I could taste a metalic taste.

After each min session I poured into a second jar and back and forth to stir 
the water up.
Wiped off the silver rods and kept going. Nothing showed up until about the 
first hour.

It has a strong tyndal effect with the red laser.
It is not yellow but It is a little cloudier than the bottle of just DW
I will let it sit for a few days and see if there is any change.

Thats it for now.
Hope this helps someone in the future.

Beth
(   Jumping up and down doing the silver dance!!)


--- On Thu, 11/4/10, Beth csilverl...@yahoo.ca wrote:

From: Beth csilverl...@yahoo.ca
Subject: Re: CSmaking first batch need input please
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Received: Thursday, November 4, 2010, 8:10 PM

Thanks so much Marshalee
I put the electrodes 1.5 inches apart and I am using the gadget that only uses 
1 battery
even though it says it has 0-33volts(I am not sure how that works.)
Anyway, it has a 20 min timer and every 20 min I am calculating the water with
hanna pwt meter.
So far I have
started at .1
20 min later:
.3
.9
3.4 had to wipe of black residue this round
So it seems to be doubling every 20 min

I will post the results when it is done.
Trying to get to 10ppm without going yellow. And I need to calculate it from the
pwt chart to get it to ppm. 1=.4 so I have a ways to go.

I dont mind having a battery unit as it will be handy if we have power outage
I'd like to invest in a wall unit in the future... along with a zapper.
Trying to get healthy in a natural way and hopefully help others in my
 family 
with ailments that dont seem to get better with modern medicine.

Beth



Hi, Beth,  I`m Marshalee, an oldie on the List. I`ve been using CS for 14 years 
now. I`m a Lyme Disease survivor thanks to CS.  I make my own CS with a gadget 
that plugs in the wall, giving me 30 volts. (I have used the 3 9-volt batteries 
and salt method, but this works better.) 
I use 2 cups of room temp. DW, and 2 five-inch long pieces of 14 gauge .999 
fine silver wires. I hook them to the box with alligator clips, and use a glass 
2-cup measuring cup, used only for CS making. I leave it for 1 hour which gives 
about 18 PPM clear CS. Thanks to CS I`m well, and I`m not blue or gray (other 
than the hair, and well, I`m 58 now, so yes it IS supposed to be gray!) The CS 
has worked well for my animals too.
I hope this will help! Let me know if you have any other questions.Marshalee
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Beth csilverl...@yahoo.ca wrote:

Hi all. Just about to make my first batch however I would like

input as to how to do this properly.

The instructions from the company says to make the water hot

to boiling point. But this is to make yellow silver.

I dont want to make yellow product.

So... Im thinking: do I need to heat the water or should

I just plug it in and let it go and see how long it takes

at room temp.?



Also, how far apart should I put the probes? I have it in a

750ml jar. (Which is 5 cups of water.)



I dont have a silver puppy or something to stir it as it cooks. I

wish I did but I spent tons on everything I have so far and

cant just go out and buy another one at this time.



Beth






CSMercury Filling removal - anesthesia

2010-11-04 Thread Paula Samuels Anthis
Just an FYIIF IF IF there is any overlaying illness such as chronic 
fatigue/fibromyalgia/hypothyroidism/MCS/EI present we may not clear the usual 
local mouth anesthesia of have a mild reaction we have considered normal just 
because it is the way we have always felt after dental work requiring injection 
anesthesia.  I am thankful a dentist actually lookd at my medical history and 
said You know I just attended a workshop and they said that Carbocaine is the 
anesthesia of choice for folks like you because it does not clear by the same 
pathways that lidocaine does and they said that since the epinepherine can 
cause 
you some problems too, I'll use plain Carbocaine.   WOW the difference in 
recovery was amazing, none of the jaw sensations or body flu like symptoms.  


He was also the doc that refused to use a dam in my mouth because  It would 
take so much time in my chair and you will do just fine when he removed a 
mercury filling.  I was at the very end of dental insurance and he was willing 
to say I needed the fillings replaced, s.   I had to go through major 
detox because he would not use that dam, and probably because so far as I knew 
it was the last mercury in my mouth..and I could not afford a biologic 
dentist.

Although I have not had any need for any mouth anesthesia in the last 8 years 
(Yea!).  I have made my new dentist note that if I need injectable anesthesia 
he 
is to use only Carbocaine for me - - - reply from dental tech and dentist No 
problem, we have it right here as the tech reached into the drawer to show it 
to me.    


Pat, we are hoping things go well for the mercury removal!

Blessings from Paula


  

CSweather affecting CS manufacture

2010-11-04 Thread PT Ferrance


Can anyone tell me if weather affects how long it takes to make CS?

When I got my silverpuppy I made several batches during the summer when it was 
bright and dry with the air conditioning on.  It took about 6 hours max.  I 
made 
some today when it was grey and rainy and it took 11 hours.  Same jar and home 
double distilled water.  Wiped off the electrodes with a white paper towel and 
rinsed the bottle with distilled water before starting.  Nothing different.

I would like to understand what may have affected the length of time since it 
was almost double.
Thanks.
PT

RE: CSMercury Filling removal - anesthesia

2010-11-04 Thread jessie70
Paula, why is carbacaine better than lidocaine? I am also having work done
at the end of this month, removing a large, old mercury filling and
replacing with a partial crown and also two smaller mercury fillings to be
replaced.  Thanks, Jess
  -Original Message-
  From: Paula Samuels Anthis [mailto:npalacios...@yahoo.com]
  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 10:19 PM
  To: Silver-Eskimo Forum
  Subject: CSMercury Filling removal - anesthesia


  Just an FYIIF IF IF there is any overlaying illness such as chronic
fatigue/fibromyalgia/hypothyroidism/MCS/EI present we may not clear the
usual local mouth anesthesia of have a mild reaction we have considered
normal just because it is the way we have always felt after dental work
requiring injection anesthesia.  I am thankful a dentist actually lookd at
my medical history and said You know I just attended a workshop and they
said that Carbocaine is the anesthesia of choice for folks like you because
it does not clear by the same pathways that lidocaine does and they said
that since the epinepherine can cause you some problems too, I'll use plain
Carbocaine.   WOW the difference in recovery was amazing, none of the jaw
sensations or body flu like symptoms.

  He was also the doc that refused to use a dam in my mouth because  It
would take so much time in my chair and you will do just fine when he
removed a mercury filling.  I was at the very end of dental insurance and he
was willing to say I needed the fillings replaced, s.   I had to go
through major detox because he would not use that dam, and probably because
so far as I knew it was the last mercury in my mouth..and I could not
afford a biologic dentist.

  Although I have not had any need for any mouth anesthesia in the last 8
years (Yea!).  I have made my new dentist note that if I need injectable
anesthesia he is to use only Carbocaine for me - - - reply from dental tech
and dentist No problem, we have it right here as the tech reached into the
drawer to show it to me.

  Pat, we are hoping things go well for the mercury removal!

  Blessings from Paula



Re: CSweather affecting CS manufacture

2010-11-04 Thread Deborah Gerard
Wonder if the moon has any affect?





From: PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, November 4, 2010 10:22:54 PM
Subject: CSweather affecting CS manufacture




Can anyone tell me if weather affects how long it takes to make CS?

When I got my silverpuppy I made several batches during the summer when it was 
bright and dry with the air conditioning on.  It took about 6 hours max.  I 
made 
some today when it was grey and rainy and it took 11 hours.  Same jar and home 
double distilled water.  Wiped off the electrodes with a white paper towel and 
rinsed the bottle with distilled water before starting.  Nothing different.

I would like to understand what may have affected the length of time since it 
was almost double.
Thanks.
PT