Re: Fwd: CS MMS - Info Request
IMO MMS does indeed have a place in the alternative medicine cabinet. For example it has a well established record in usage for Malaria, look it up. Also go to youtube and search for MMS Testimonials, it's pretty amazing. On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 9:47 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: I just did a search on the internet and it turned up a great deal of info including some self-treatments that seemed to help. Look at earthclinic.com PT -- *From:* Hotchillige hotchill...@optusnet.com.au *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Monday, October 27, 2014 8:58 PM *Subject:* Fwd: CS MMS - Info Request Sent from my iPhone Hi Guys has anyone heard of Grover's disease I've had for more than 10 years and tried every thing. I've been taking CS for about 2 years now and just starting zapping the last 3 weeks. Like I said l'll try anything preferably not pharma med. my Doctor told me 9 years ago there is no cure but I still hav'nt given up! My diet is GF and I try not to eat anything that modified to much and lots of ozinated water, exercise regularly. Any help appreciated ;-) Sent from my iPhone On 28 Oct 2014, at 10:38 am, Da Darrin ddarrin...@gmail.com wrote: WOW that sounds a lot like the diatribe from the mainstream about colloidal silver. I can attest that Chlorine dioxide in a gas form coupled with Wobenzyme enzymes cured me of Lyme two years ago that I had suffered with for nearly 60 years. No side effects at all. Dave On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com wrote: Sandra ... better drop MMS. I've found nothing to recommend it. I rate it Death Wish #2, exceeded only by Death Wish #1 (vaccines). *The Effects of Chlorine on the Body* The environmental protection agency website explains http://www.epa.gov/iris/subst/0496.htm that chlorine dioxide reduces activity in laboratory rats, and produces neurological disorders. However, there have been very few studies on the effects of orally consumed chlorine dioxide, because governmental agencies do not assume that people will be drinking a chlorine bleach as a supplement. Chlorine has been known for years to both cause and worsen respiratory http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/832336-overview problems, including asthma and pneumonia. As a thyroid crippling halogen, chlorine damages enzymes across the board to decimate the immune system upon ingestion or inhalation. Chlorine causes http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15539172 magnesium deficiency, which can cause almost any symptom you can imagine, from migraine headaches, high blood pressure, chemical sensitivity, and in severe cases: sudden death, according to Mark J. Eisenberg, MD.. When such magnesium deficiencies are combined with MSG intake, it sometimes leads to sudden and unexpected heart failure; even amongst young people. Chlorine also decreases http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15539172 the absorption of calcium and phosphorus while increasing their excretion. This loss of calcium into the urine leads to bone-related problems including osteoporosis. Chlorine has been known to irritate the skin, the eyes, and the respiratory system. It has a tendency to react with other chemicals (especially acids) to produce even more toxic byproducts. Some of chlorine's byproducts are known as trihalomethanes (THM's) that are typically found in municipal water. An example of a THM is chloroform, a well documented cancer causing agent. Studies have repeatedly http://www.advisorybodies.doh.gov.uk/coc/clh2o08.htm demonstrated that chlorine and THM's are leading causes of colon and bladder cancers, as well as diabetes, kidney stones, and sudden heart attacks. Chlorine-tainted water changes the preferred HDL cholesterol into LDL cholesterol, creates free radicals inside the body that require more antioxidant vitamins to neutralize, and it destroys fatty acids that are needed by the heart. According to the book, *Coronaries Cholesterol Chlorine* by Dr. Joseph M. Price, chlorination was first suspected of causing heart disease during the Korean War, because the men who had canteens with the highest amounts of chlorine also had the greatest damage to their arteries. Physically fit soldiers in their twenties had arteries reminiscent of their seventy-year-old grandfathers. -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
Re: CS MMS - Info Request
Thanks Marshall - did you by chance receive a direct one from me - if not look in your junk mail box as they love to dump Juno addys there !!!I wrote you within the past week - thanks Sandee Attitude is everything Alive Again Colloidal Silver Eye drops Topical Gel aliveagai...@yahoo.com On Oct 27, 2014, at 8:46 PM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Chlorine and chlorine dioxide are two different things. If you assume that compounds that contain chlorine are harmful simply because the element is, then that would include salt, which is an essential nutrient, as well as all amino acids, which are also essential for life and proteins, which all muscle tissues are made of, and the hydrochloric acid in your stomach would also be deadly. Marshall On 10/27/2014 5:51 PM, Phil Morrison wrote: Sandra ... better drop MMS. I've found nothing to recommend it. I rate it Death Wish #2, exceeded only by Death Wish #1 (vaccines). The Effects of Chlorine on the Body The environmental protection agency website explains that chlorine dioxide reduces activity in laboratory rats, and produces neurological disorders. However, there have been very few studies on the effects of orally consumed chlorine dioxide, because governmental agencies do not assume that people will be drinking a chlorine bleach as a supplement. Chlorine has been known for years to both cause and worsen respiratory problems, including asthma and pneumonia. As a thyroid crippling halogen, chlorine damages enzymes across the board to decimate the immune system upon ingestion or inhalation. Chlorine causes magnesium deficiency, which can cause almost any symptom you can imagine, from migraine headaches, high blood pressure, chemical sensitivity, and in severe cases: sudden death, according to Mark J. Eisenberg, MD.. When such magnesium deficiencies are combined with MSG intake, it sometimes leads to sudden and unexpected heart failure; even amongst young people. Chlorine also decreases the absorption of calcium and phosphorus while increasing their excretion. This loss of calcium into the urine leads to bone-related problems including osteoporosis. Chlorine has been known to irritate the skin, the eyes, and the respiratory system. It has a tendency to react with other chemicals (especially acids) to produce even more toxic byproducts. Some of chlorine's byproducts are known as trihalomethanes (THM's) that are typically found in municipal water. An example of a THM is chloroform, a well documented cancer causing agent. Studies have repeatedly demonstrated that chlorine and THM's are leading causes of colon and bladder cancers, as well as diabetes, kidney stones, and sudden heart attacks. Chlorine-tainted water changes the preferred HDL cholesterol into LDL cholesterol, creates free radicals inside the body that require more antioxidant vitamins to neutralize, and it destroys fatty acids that are needed by the heart. According to the book, Coronaries Cholesterol Chlorine by Dr. Joseph M. Price, chlorination was first suspected of causing heart disease during the Korean War, because the men who had canteens with the highest amounts of chlorine also had the greatest damage to their arteries. Physically fit soldiers in their twenties had arteries reminiscent of their seventy-year-old grandfathers. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 4031/7960 - Release Date: 10/27/14
Re: CS MMS Info Request
lol, there will always be scaremongering. Sadly not for prescription meds, at least until the death toll is high enough. I have used MMS and you have to build up slowly. And there will always be those who don't follow direction. I moved to other alternatives as the smell was so nauseating after a while. A capsule method would be more palatable if I decide I want to use it again. On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Da Darrin ddarrin...@gmail.com wrote: OH MY GOD I'm dead. On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com wrote: On July 30, 2010 and again on October 1, 2010, the United States Food and Drug Administration http://www.ask.com/wiki/United_States_Food_and_Drug_Administration?qsrc=3044 (FDA), warned against the use of the product Miracle Mineral Supplement http://www.ask.com/wiki/Miracle_Mineral_Supplement?qsrc=3044 or MMS, which when made up according to instructions produces chlorine dioxide. MMS has been marketed as a treatment for a variety of conditions, including HIV, cancer, and acne. The FDA warnings informed consumers that MMS can cause serious harm to health, and stated that it has received numerous reports of nausea, severe vomiting, and life-threatening low blood pressure caused by dehydration,[29] http://www.ask.com/wiki/Chlorine_dioxide#cite_note-29[30] http://www.ask.com/wiki/Chlorine_dioxide#cite_note-30 among other symptoms, such as diarrhea.
Re: CS MMS - Info Request
Thanks Dave - it always fascinates how the good is not discussed only the bad - thanks Sandee Attitude is everything Alive Again Colloidal Silver Eye drops Topical Gel aliveagai...@yahoo.com On Oct 27, 2014, at 8:38 PM, Da Darrin ddarrin...@gmail.com wrote: WOW that sounds a lot like the diatribe from the mainstream about colloidal silver. I can attest that Chlorine dioxide in a gas form coupled with Wobenzyme enzymes cured me of Lyme two years ago that I had suffered with for nearly 60 years. No side effects at all. Dave On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com wrote: Sandra ... better drop MMS. I've found nothing to recommend it. I rate it Death Wish #2, exceeded only by Death Wish #1 (vaccines). The Effects of Chlorine on the Body The environmental protection agency website explains that chlorine dioxide reduces activity in laboratory rats, and produces neurological disorders. However, there have been very few studies on the effects of orally consumed chlorine dioxide, because governmental agencies do not assume that people will be drinking a chlorine bleach as a supplement. Chlorine has been known for years to both cause and worsen respiratory problems, including asthma and pneumonia. As a thyroid crippling halogen, chlorine damages enzymes across the board to decimate the immune system upon ingestion or inhalation. Chlorine causes magnesium deficiency, which can cause almost any symptom you can imagine, from migraine headaches, high blood pressure, chemical sensitivity, and in severe cases: sudden death, according to Mark J. Eisenberg, MD.. When such magnesium deficiencies are combined with MSG intake, it sometimes leads to sudden and unexpected heart failure; even amongst young people. Chlorine also decreases the absorption of calcium and phosphorus while increasing their excretion. This loss of calcium into the urine leads to bone-related problems including osteoporosis. Chlorine has been known to irritate the skin, the eyes, and the respiratory system. It has a tendency to react with other chemicals (especially acids) to produce even more toxic byproducts. Some of chlorine's byproducts are known as trihalomethanes (THM's) that are typically found in municipal water. An example of a THM is chloroform, a well documented cancer causing agent. Studies have repeatedly demonstrated that chlorine and THM's are leading causes of colon and bladder cancers, as well as diabetes, kidney stones, and sudden heart attacks. Chlorine-tainted water changes the preferred HDL cholesterol into LDL cholesterol, creates free radicals inside the body that require more antioxidant vitamins to neutralize, and it destroys fatty acids that are needed by the heart. According to the book, Coronaries Cholesterol Chlorine by Dr. Joseph M. Price, chlorination was first suspected of causing heart disease during the Korean War, because the men who had canteens with the highest amounts of chlorine also had the greatest damage to their arteries. Physically fit soldiers in their twenties had arteries reminiscent of their seventy-year-old grandfathers.
Re: CS MMS Info Request
V The way I use it is in the gas form called CDS. 15 drops, after the initial getting used to it, in about half a glass of apple juice. If you don't breath in through your nose so you don't smell it you can't hardly taste it at all. Dave On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 6:35 AM, V highergroun...@gmail.com wrote: lol, there will always be scaremongering. Sadly not for prescription meds, at least until the death toll is high enough. I have used MMS and you have to build up slowly. And there will always be those who don't follow direction. I moved to other alternatives as the smell was so nauseating after a while. A capsule method would be more palatable if I decide I want to use it again. On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Da Darrin ddarrin...@gmail.com wrote: OH MY GOD I'm dead. On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com wrote: On July 30, 2010 and again on October 1, 2010, the United States Food and Drug Administration http://www.ask.com/wiki/United_States_Food_and_Drug_Administration?qsrc=3044 (FDA), warned against the use of the product Miracle Mineral Supplement http://www.ask.com/wiki/Miracle_Mineral_Supplement?qsrc=3044 or MMS, which when made up according to instructions produces chlorine dioxide. MMS has been marketed as a treatment for a variety of conditions, including HIV, cancer, and acne. The FDA warnings informed consumers that MMS can cause serious harm to health, and stated that it has received numerous reports of nausea, severe vomiting, and life-threatening low blood pressure caused by dehydration,[29] http://www.ask.com/wiki/Chlorine_dioxide#cite_note-29[30] http://www.ask.com/wiki/Chlorine_dioxide#cite_note-30 among other symptoms, such as diarrhea.
Re: CS MMS Info Request
You might consider the newer protocol 1000 (google it) which involves taking 1-3 drops per hour for 8+ hours per day. It's supposed to be more effective than a big dose, and it's definitely easier on the tummy. On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Da Darrin ddarrin...@gmail.com wrote: V The way I use it is in the gas form called CDS. 15 drops, after the initial getting used to it, in about half a glass of apple juice. If you don't breath in through your nose so you don't smell it you can't hardly taste it at all. Dave On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 6:35 AM, V highergroun...@gmail.com wrote: lol, there will always be scaremongering. Sadly not for prescription meds, at least until the death toll is high enough. I have used MMS and you have to build up slowly. And there will always be those who don't follow direction. I moved to other alternatives as the smell was so nauseating after a while. A capsule method would be more palatable if I decide I want to use it again. On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Da Darrin ddarrin...@gmail.com wrote: OH MY GOD I'm dead. On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com wrote: On July 30, 2010 and again on October 1, 2010, the United States Food and Drug Administration http://www.ask.com/wiki/United_States_Food_and_Drug_Administration?qsrc=3044 (FDA), warned against the use of the product Miracle Mineral Supplement http://www.ask.com/wiki/Miracle_Mineral_Supplement?qsrc=3044 or MMS, which when made up according to instructions produces chlorine dioxide. MMS has been marketed as a treatment for a variety of conditions, including HIV, cancer, and acne. The FDA warnings informed consumers that MMS can cause serious harm to health, and stated that it has received numerous reports of nausea, severe vomiting, and life-threatening low blood pressure caused by dehydration,[29] http://www.ask.com/wiki/Chlorine_dioxide#cite_note-29[30] http://www.ask.com/wiki/Chlorine_dioxide#cite_note-30 among other symptoms, such as diarrhea. -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
Re: CS MMS Info Request
They were a day late and a dollar short with that one for me as I took care of my problem and don't use it anymore. The apple juice made it doable as I couldn't get past the smell for long. With the enzymes I think the large dose would be better. Dave On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote: You might consider the newer protocol 1000 (google it) which involves taking 1-3 drops per hour for 8+ hours per day. It's supposed to be more effective than a big dose, and it's definitely easier on the tummy. On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Da Darrin ddarrin...@gmail.com wrote: V The way I use it is in the gas form called CDS. 15 drops, after the initial getting used to it, in about half a glass of apple juice. If you don't breath in through your nose so you don't smell it you can't hardly taste it at all. Dave On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 6:35 AM, V highergroun...@gmail.com wrote: lol, there will always be scaremongering. Sadly not for prescription meds, at least until the death toll is high enough. I have used MMS and you have to build up slowly. And there will always be those who don't follow direction. I moved to other alternatives as the smell was so nauseating after a while. A capsule method would be more palatable if I decide I want to use it again. On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Da Darrin ddarrin...@gmail.com wrote: OH MY GOD I'm dead. On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com wrote: On July 30, 2010 and again on October 1, 2010, the United States Food and Drug Administration http://www.ask.com/wiki/United_States_Food_and_Drug_Administration?qsrc=3044 (FDA), warned against the use of the product Miracle Mineral Supplement http://www.ask.com/wiki/Miracle_Mineral_Supplement?qsrc=3044 or MMS, which when made up according to instructions produces chlorine dioxide. MMS has been marketed as a treatment for a variety of conditions, including HIV, cancer, and acne. The FDA warnings informed consumers that MMS can cause serious harm to health, and stated that it has received numerous reports of nausea, severe vomiting, and life-threatening low blood pressure caused by dehydration,[29] http://www.ask.com/wiki/Chlorine_dioxide#cite_note-29[30] http://www.ask.com/wiki/Chlorine_dioxide#cite_note-30 among other symptoms, such as diarrhea. -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
Re: CSARGENTYN 23 GEL- Info Request
Hi. I have recently had bad side effects from using gel silver. The brand is ASAP HCP. Health. Max 24. Gel I recently burned the inside of my ear canals with the wrong medicine. The drainage is now 7 months ongoing and the skin is toxic from the drainage. I put the gel in my ears to only get much worse and the skin/ear lobes and behind goes into shock A Naturepath recommends this brand. ARGENTYN 23 GEL. What's the difference? I'm gun shy here. I ears are a war zone now very messed up. Don't even look like skin at all and feels very painful. I have high pain tolerance. Again what makes this silver work so much better ? ARGENTYN 23 GEL Thank you all for your responses. Tre lymeover.com Natural forces within us are the true healers of disease - Hippocrates. So our own far infra red is produced and sent into us with variable temperatures. Ask today how this can happen. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 27, 2014, at 3:04 PM, Sandra George oha...@juno.com wrote: Thanks Phil your time is appreciated - the study of chemicals is absolutely fascinating to me, I think I lost my calling this life time around ! Next time !!! Cheers Sandee Attitude is everything !!! Sandra George Colloidal Silver Products Eye Drops Topical Gel aliveagai...@yahoo.com On 27 Oct 2014, at 17:51, Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com wrote: Sandra ... better drop MMS. I've found nothing to recommend it. I rate it Death Wish #2, exceeded only by Death Wish #1 (vaccines). The Effects of Chlorine on the Body The environmental protection agency website explains that chlorine dioxide reduces activity in laboratory rats, and produces neurological disorders. However, there have been very few studies on the effects of orally consumed chlorine dioxide, because governmental agencies do not assume that people will be drinking a chlorine bleach as a supplement. Chlorine has been known for years to both cause and worsen respiratory problems, including asthma and pneumonia. As a thyroid crippling halogen, chlorine damages enzymes across the board to decimate the immune system upon ingestion or inhalation. Chlorine causes magnesium deficiency, which can cause almost any symptom you can imagine, from migraine headaches, high blood pressure, chemical sensitivity, and in severe cases: sudden death, according to Mark J. Eisenberg, MD.. When such magnesium deficiencies are combined with MSG intake, it sometimes leads to sudden and unexpected heart failure; even amongst young people. Chlorine also decreases the absorption of calcium and phosphorus while increasing their excretion. This loss of calcium into the urine leads to bone-related problems including osteoporosis. Chlorine has been known to irritate the skin, the eyes, and the respiratory system. It has a tendency to react with other chemicals (especially acids) to produce even more toxic byproducts. Some of chlorine's byproducts are known as trihalomethanes (THM's) that are typically found in municipal water. An example of a THM is chloroform, a well documented cancer causing agent. Studies have repeatedly demonstrated that chlorine and THM's are leading causes of colon and bladder cancers, as well as diabetes, kidney stones, and sudden heart attacks. Chlorine-tainted water changes the preferred HDL cholesterol into LDL cholesterol, creates free radicals inside the body that require more antioxidant vitamins to neutralize, and it destroys fatty acids that are needed by the heart. According to the book, Coronaries Cholesterol Chlorine by Dr. Joseph M. Price, chlorination was first suspected of causing heart disease during the Korean War, because the men who had canteens with the highest amounts of chlorine also had the greatest damage to their arteries. Physically fit soldiers in their twenties had arteries reminiscent of their seventy-year-old grandfathers. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSARGENTYN 23 GEL- Info Request
Sounds like you may be allergic to silver or the gel additives. Better to try them somewhere other than in your ear to be sure. On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Tre lymeo...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi. I have recently had bad side effects from using gel silver. The brand is ASAP HCP. Health. Max 24. Gel I recently burned the inside of my ear canals with the wrong medicine. The drainage is now 7 months ongoing and the skin is toxic from the drainage. I put the gel in my ears to only get much worse and the skin/ear lobes and behind goes into shock A Naturepath recommends this brand. ARGENTYN 23 GEL. What's the difference? I'm gun shy here. I ears are a war zone now very messed up. Don't even look like skin at all and feels very painful. I have high pain tolerance. Again what makes this silver work so much better ? ARGENTYN 23 GEL Thank you all for your responses. Tre lymeover.com Natural forces within us are the true healers of disease - Hippocrates. So our own far infra red is produced and sent into us with variable temperatures. Ask today how this can happen. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 27, 2014, at 3:04 PM, Sandra George oha...@juno.com wrote: Thanks Phil your time is appreciated - the study of chemicals is absolutely fascinating to me, I think I lost my calling this life time around ! Next time !!! Cheers Sandee Attitude is everything !!! Sandra George Colloidal Silver Products Eye Drops Topical Gel aliveagai...@yahoo.com On 27 Oct 2014, at 17:51, Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com wrote: Sandra ... better drop MMS. I've found nothing to recommend it. I rate it Death Wish #2, exceeded only by Death Wish #1 (vaccines). The Effects of Chlorine on the Body The environmental protection agency website explains that chlorine dioxide reduces activity in laboratory rats, and produces neurological disorders. However, there have been very few studies on the effects of orally consumed chlorine dioxide, because governmental agencies do not assume that people will be drinking a chlorine bleach as a supplement. Chlorine has been known for years to both cause and worsen respiratory problems, including asthma and pneumonia. As a thyroid crippling halogen, chlorine damages enzymes across the board to decimate the immune system upon ingestion or inhalation. Chlorine causes magnesium deficiency, which can cause almost any symptom you can imagine, from migraine headaches, high blood pressure, chemical sensitivity, and in severe cases: sudden death, according to Mark J. Eisenberg, MD.. When such magnesium deficiencies are combined with MSG intake, it sometimes leads to sudden and unexpected heart failure; even amongst young people. Chlorine also decreases the absorption of calcium and phosphorus while increasing their excretion. This loss of calcium into the urine leads to bone-related problems including osteoporosis. Chlorine has been known to irritate the skin, the eyes, and the respiratory system. It has a tendency to react with other chemicals (especially acids) to produce even more toxic byproducts. Some of chlorine's byproducts are known as trihalomethanes (THM's) that are typically found in municipal water. An example of a THM is chloroform, a well documented cancer causing agent. Studies have repeatedly demonstrated that chlorine and THM's are leading causes of colon and bladder cancers, as well as diabetes, kidney stones, and sudden heart attacks. Chlorine-tainted water changes the preferred HDL cholesterol into LDL cholesterol, creates free radicals inside the body that require more antioxidant vitamins to neutralize, and it destroys fatty acids that are needed by the heart. According to the book, Coronaries Cholesterol Chlorine by Dr. Joseph M. Price, chlorination was first suspected of causing heart disease during the Korean War, because the men who had canteens with the highest amounts of chlorine also had the greatest damage to their arteries. Physically fit soldiers in their twenties had arteries reminiscent of their seventy-year-old grandfathers. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Dear CS list, I am brand new to this list. I found out about it through the Lyme Buhner list. I have been diagnosed with Lyme disease and likely have several of the coinfections. Numerous people who have recovered successfully from Lyme, along with my practitioner, recommend using colloidal silver in support of my treatment. I am taking it along with antibiotics. If Lyme is truly what I have, I have had it for about 18 years. I am currently taking 3 tsp of 150 mcg purified silver (ea. tsp) daily. Can anyone recommend if it is best taken as 3 separate teaspoons throughout the day, or all at once. Also, should it be taken on an empty stomach, even with no water? Thank you so much for your ideas and suggestions, Claire
Re: CS MMS Info Request
Hmmm, I will have to check out CDS, do you have any links? I have also followed over the years and read the new protocols and like that idea better, spreading the drops out makes good sense! Thanks! On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote: You might consider the newer protocol 1000 (google it) which involves taking 1-3 drops per hour for 8+ hours per day. It's supposed to be more effective than a big dose, and it's definitely easier on the tummy. On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Da Darrin ddarrin...@gmail.com wrote: V The way I use it is in the gas form called CDS. 15 drops, after the initial getting used to it, in about half a glass of apple juice. If you don't breath in through your nose so you don't smell it you can't hardly taste it at all. Dave On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 6:35 AM, V highergroun...@gmail.com wrote: lol, there will always be scaremongering. Sadly not for prescription meds, at least until the death toll is high enough. I have used MMS and you have to build up slowly. And there will always be those who don't follow direction. I moved to other alternatives as the smell was so nauseating after a while. A capsule method would be more palatable if I decide I want to use it again. On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Da Darrin ddarrin...@gmail.com wrote: OH MY GOD I'm dead. On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com wrote: On July 30, 2010 and again on October 1, 2010, the United States Food and Drug Administration http://www.ask.com/wiki/United_States_Food_and_Drug_Administration?qsrc=3044 (FDA), warned against the use of the product Miracle Mineral Supplement http://www.ask.com/wiki/Miracle_Mineral_Supplement?qsrc=3044 or MMS, which when made up according to instructions produces chlorine dioxide. MMS has been marketed as a treatment for a variety of conditions, including HIV, cancer, and acne. The FDA warnings informed consumers that MMS can cause serious harm to health, and stated that it has received numerous reports of nausea, severe vomiting, and life-threatening low blood pressure caused by dehydration,[29] http://www.ask.com/wiki/Chlorine_dioxide#cite_note-29[30] http://www.ask.com/wiki/Chlorine_dioxide#cite_note-30 among other symptoms, such as diarrhea. -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
Re: CSARGENTYN 23 GEL- Info Request
I have no experience with any CS gel because I'm allergic to the gelling ingredients. Just a thought because I notice most people forget to consider adverse reactions to any product might be caused by allergy to so-called inactive ingredients. sol Tre wrote: Hi. I have recently had bad side effects from using gel silver. The brand is ASAP HCP. Health. Max 24. Gel I recently burned the inside of my ear canals with the wrong medicine. The drainage is now 7 months ongoing and the skin is toxic from the drainage. I put the gel in my ears to only get much worse and the skin/ear lobes and behind goes into shock A Naturepath recommends this brand. ARGENTYN 23 GEL. What's the difference? I'm gun shy here. I ears are a war zone now very messed up. Don't even look like skin at all and feels very painful. I have high pain tolerance. Again what makes this silver work so much better ? ARGENTYN 23 GEL Thank you all for your responses. Tre --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSARGENTYN 23 GEL- Info Request
Just a further personal comment: I will not use anything that I can't get a complete ingredient list for, including all active and inactive ingredients and excipients. Any mfr that will not supply me with that information doesn't get my business. I just can't afford the risk. sol --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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See below quite comprehensive CS history, timeline, usage, and benefits. http://www.familyhealthnews.com/articles-colloidal-silver.html
CSMMS
Some time ago I read a lot about Jim Humble and MMS. I decided that he was a co man and MMS was a total fraud and that you might as well dink household bleach and in fact that is about what you are consuming. All of the testimonials were from plants and most or all of the stuff written was written by Jim Humble himself. MMS is household bleach. Clorox by any other name. Ron --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: CSMMS
If you can support these accusations we'd all be very interested in hearing your evidence. On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Ron ron@gmail.com wrote: Some time ago I read a lot about Jim Humble and MMS. I decided that he was a co man and MMS was a total fraud and that you might as well dink household bleach and in fact that is about what you are consuming. All of the testimonials were from plants and most or all of the stuff written was written by Jim Humble himself. MMS is household bleach. Clorox by any other name. Ron -- http://www.avast.com/ This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active. -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
Re: CSMMS
http://www.activatedmineralsolution.com/jim-humble-mms-ams-bleach-accusations/ Big pharmacy is busy... On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 3:35 PM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote: If you can support these accusations we'd all be very interested in hearing your evidence. On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Ron ron@gmail.com wrote: Some time ago I read a lot about Jim Humble and MMS. I decided that he was a co man and MMS was a total fraud and that you might as well dink household bleach and in fact that is about what you are consuming. All of the testimonials were from plants and most or all of the stuff written was written by Jim Humble himself. MMS is household bleach. Clorox by any other name. Ron | | This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. | -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
Re: CSMMS
Not accusations. Opinions. I simply read all I could find on the internet both pro con. I evaluated the sources and decided that Humble was a not what he claimed to be and that MMS was in fact bleach. All of the stuff I read is available to anyone who will spend the time effort. Ron On 10/28/2014 11:34 AM, Alan Jones wrote: If you can support these accusations we'd all be very interested in hearing your evidence. On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Ron ron@gmail.com mailto:ron@gmail.com wrote: Some time ago I read a lot about Jim Humble and MMS. I decided that he was a co man and MMS was a total fraud and that you might as well dink household bleach and in fact that is about what you are consuming. All of the testimonials were from plants and most or all of the stuff written was written by Jim Humble himself. MMS is household bleach. Clorox by any other name. Ron http://www.avast.com/ This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active. -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution) --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
CSJim Humble.
Oddly I see this in the archives but it did not hit my inbox: Deborah Gerard http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=silver-list@eskimo.comq=from:%22Deborah+Gerard%22Tue, 28 Oct 2014 12:46:45 -0700 http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=silver-list@eskimo.comq=date:20141028 http://www.activatedmineralsolution.com/jim-humble-mms-ams-bleach-accusations/ Big pharmacy is busy... == I wonder why he does not feel the need to furnish any info but his word? Probably because he signs his name as *Archbishop Jim Humble. * noun: archbishop 1. A bishop of highest rank Oh. Really? Ron --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
RE: CSMMS
I also do not trust Mr. Humble. His turning his business into an official religion, making MMS it’s sacrament and him the high priest was the final straw for me. Scott Adams I bet you know someone who has Chronic Lyme and doesn't realize it yet! www.lyme-resource.com From: Ron [mailto:ron@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 2:47 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMMS Not accusations. Opinions. I simply read all I could find on the internet both pro con. I evaluated the sources and decided that Humble was a not what he claimed to be and that MMS was in fact bleach. All of the stuff I read is available to anyone who will spend the time effort. Ron On 10/28/2014 11:34 AM, Alan Jones wrote: If you can support these accusations we'd all be very interested in hearing your evidence. On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Ron ron@gmail.com wrote: Some time ago I read a lot about Jim Humble and MMS. I decided that he was a co man and MMS was a total fraud and that you might as well dink household bleach and in fact that is about what you are consuming. All of the testimonials were from plants and most or all of the stuff written was written by Jim Humble himself. MMS is household bleach. Clorox by any other name. Ron _ http://www.avast.com/ This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active. -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution) _ http://www.avast.com/ This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active.
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I wish I had said that. Ron On 10/28/2014 12:09 PM, Scott Adams wrote: I also do not trust Mr. Humble. His turning his business into an official religion, making MMS it’s sacrament and him the high priest was the final straw for me. Scott Adams I bet you know someone who has Chronic Lyme and doesn't realize it yet! www.lyme-resource.com http://www.lyme-resource.com *From:*Ron [mailto:ron@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2014 2:47 PM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSMMS Not accusations. Opinions. I simply read all I could find on the internet both pro con. I evaluated the sources and decided that Humble was a not what he claimed to be and that MMS was in fact bleach. All of the stuff I read is available to anyone who will spend the time effort. Ron On 10/28/2014 11:34 AM, Alan Jones wrote: If you can support these accusations we'd all be very interested in hearing your evidence. On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Ron ron@gmail.com mailto:ron@gmail.com wrote: Some time ago I read a lot about Jim Humble and MMS. I decided that he was a co man and MMS was a total fraud and that you might as well dink household bleach and in fact that is about what you are consuming. All of the testimonials were from plants and most or all of the stuff written was written by Jim Humble himself. MMS is household bleach. Clorox by any other name. Ron http://www.avast.com/ This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active. -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution) http://www.avast.com/ This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: CS MMS Info Request
There is this option as well MMS Tablets- More expensive...But certainly much easier http://mmstabs.com/ Paul From: V highergroun...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 2:25 PM Subject: Re: CS MMS Info Request Hmmm, I will have to check out CDS, do you have any links? I have also followed over the years and read the new protocols and like that idea better, spreading the drops out makes good sense! Thanks! On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote: You might consider the newer protocol 1000 (google it) which involves taking 1-3 drops per hour for 8+ hours per day. It's supposed to be more effective than a big dose, and it's definitely easier on the tummy. On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Da Darrin ddarrin...@gmail.com wrote: V The way I use it is in the gas form called CDS. 15 drops, after the initial getting used to it, in about half a glass of apple juice. If you don't breath in through your nose so you don't smell it you can't hardly taste it at all. Dave On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 6:35 AM, V highergroun...@gmail.com wrote: lol, there will always be scaremongering. Sadly not for prescription meds, at least until the death toll is high enough. I have used MMS and you have to build up slowly. And there will always be those who don't follow direction. I moved to other alternatives as the smell was so nauseating after a while. A capsule method would be more palatable if I decide I want to use it again. On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Da Darrin ddarrin...@gmail.com wrote: OH MY GOD I'm dead. On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com wrote: On July 30, 2010 and again on October 1, 2010, the United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA), warned against the use of the product Miracle Mineral Supplement or MMS, which when made up according to instructions produces chlorine dioxide. MMS has been marketed as a treatment for a variety of conditions, including HIV, cancer, and acne. The FDA warnings informed consumers that MMS can cause serious harm to health, and stated that it has received numerous reports of nausea, severe vomiting, and life-threatening low blood pressure caused by dehydration,[29][30] among other symptoms, such as diarrhea. -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
Re: CSARGENTYN 23 GEL- Info Request
Thank you. Tre lymeover.com Natural forces within us are the true healers of disease - Hippocrates. So our own far infra red is produced and sent into us with variable temperatures. Ask today how this can happen. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 28, 2014, at 11:30 AM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: Just a further personal comment: I will not use anything that I can't get a complete ingredient list for, including all active and inactive ingredients and excipients. Any mfr that will not supply me with that information doesn't get my business. I just can't afford the risk. sol --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS MMS - Info Request
Hi Alan - I am glad I started this discussion because when a virus is involved I think we need to know which carrier to use to get the EIS through the virus protection - I certainly would not use any of the known carriers unless it were a virus I am dealing with - I believe they are using MMS as we speak along with the EIS against the Ebola in Africa - in fact I am told that Jim Humble is there himself - comparing what I have read on carriers and the experience I have personally had over the years - it is becoming evident to me that each virus, because of it’s protection mechanism, needs a different carrier for the EIS to be effective. In the case of Ebola, Ckikenguyna, Malaria it would appear that MMS is the one to use.My statement is derived only from what I have read - in my case with the Chickenguyna I used no carrier only my EIS - according to what I have researched on the Chickenguyna, I cannot get it again, so a carrier would not be of any use to me again - what I will say from the experience here of this virus, is that the stronger emmune systems were able to fight it better, and in some cases resist it totally, however the age of the human is obviously important - from the time I felt my body was fighting something until I chose to say the virus had departed was exactly 7 weeks - my body was obviously fighting it, and then it over powered it, maybe because I chose to do a water fast which was stupid, however it is what I did and it created the experience I had Not nice, not funny and I would not wish it on any other human no matter how nasty they may be ! Cheers Sandee Attitude is everything !!! Sandra George Colloidal Silver Products Eye Drops Topical Gel aliveagai...@yahoo.com On 28 Oct 2014, at 08:39, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote: IMO MMS does indeed have a place in the alternative medicine cabinet. For example it has a well established record in usage for Malaria, look it up. Also go to youtube and search for MMS Testimonials, it's pretty amazing. On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 9:47 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: I just did a search on the internet and it turned up a great deal of info including some self-treatments that seemed to help. Look at earthclinic.com PT From: Hotchillige hotchill...@optusnet.com.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 8:58 PM Subject: Fwd: CS MMS - Info Request Sent from my iPhone Hi Guys has anyone heard of Grover's disease I've had for more than 10 years and tried every thing. I've been taking CS for about 2 years now and just starting zapping the last 3 weeks. Like I said l'll try anything preferably not pharma med. my Doctor told me 9 years ago there is no cure but I still hav'nt given up! My diet is GF and I try not to eat anything that modified to much and lots of ozinated water, exercise regularly. Any help appreciated ;-) Sent from my iPhone On 28 Oct 2014, at 10:38 am, Da Darrin ddarrin...@gmail.com wrote: WOW that sounds a lot like the diatribe from the mainstream about colloidal silver. I can attest that Chlorine dioxide in a gas form coupled with Wobenzyme enzymes cured me of Lyme two years ago that I had suffered with for nearly 60 years. No side effects at all. Dave On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com wrote: Sandra ... better drop MMS. I've found nothing to recommend it. I rate it Death Wish #2, exceeded only by Death Wish #1 (vaccines). The Effects of Chlorine on the Body The environmental protection agency website explains that chlorine dioxide reduces activity in laboratory rats, and produces neurological disorders. However, there have been very few studies on the effects of orally consumed chlorine dioxide, because governmental agencies do not assume that people will be drinking a chlorine bleach as a supplement. Chlorine has been known for years to both cause and worsen respiratory problems, including asthma and pneumonia. As a thyroid crippling halogen, chlorine damages enzymes across the board to decimate the immune system upon ingestion or inhalation. Chlorine causes magnesium deficiency, which can cause almost any symptom you can imagine, from migraine headaches, high blood pressure, chemical sensitivity, and in severe cases: sudden death, according to Mark J. Eisenberg, MD.. When such magnesium deficiencies are combined with MSG intake, it sometimes leads to sudden and unexpected heart failure; even amongst young people. Chlorine also decreases the absorption of calcium and phosphorus while increasing their excretion. This loss of calcium into the urine leads to bone-related problems including osteoporosis. Chlorine has been known to irritate the skin, the eyes, and the respiratory system. It has a tendency to react with other chemicals (especially acids) to produce even more toxic byproducts. Some of chlorine's byproducts are known as
Re: CSMMS
He also said he was a god on another planet and came down to save mankind in
one of his newsletters.
Still I have read peoples' testimonials who did get benefits from MMS, and I
have some in my own cupboard
The whole church thing is creepy to me tho and I'm a Christian!
Gail
On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 1:10 PM, Scott Adams msad...@msadams.com
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Mr. Humble. His turning his business into an official religion, making MMS it’s
sacrament and him the high priest was the final straw for me. Scott Adams
I bet you know someone who has Chronic Lyme and doesn't realize it
yet!www.lyme-resource.com From: Ron [mailto:ron@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 2:47 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMMS Not accusations. Opinions. I simply read all I could find
on the internet both pro con. I evaluated the sources and decided that Humble
was a not what he claimed to be and that MMS was in fact bleach.
All of the stuff I read is available to anyone who will spend the time effort.
RonOn 10/28/2014 11:34 AM, Alan Jones wrote:
If you can support these accusations we'd all be very interested in hearing
your evidence. On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Ron ron@gmail.com
wrote:Some time ago I read a lot about Jim Humble and MMS.
I decided that he was a co man and MMS was a total fraud and that you might as
well dink household bleach and in fact that is about what you are consuming.
All of the testimonials were from plants and most or all of the stuff
written was written by Jim Humble himself.
MMS is household bleach. Clorox by any other name.
Ron
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Re: CS MMS Info Request
Where do you get yours from Paul? Sandee Attitude is everything !!! Sandra George Colloidal Silver Products Eye Drops Topical Gel aliveagai...@yahoo.com On 28 Oct 2014, at 16:34, Paul Steel pste...@yahoo.com wrote: There is this option as well MMS Tablets- More expensive...But certainly much easier http://mmstabs.com/ Paul From: V highergroun...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 2:25 PM Subject: Re: CS MMS Info Request Hmmm, I will have to check out CDS, do you have any links? I have also followed over the years and read the new protocols and like that idea better, spreading the drops out makes good sense! Thanks! On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote: You might consider the newer protocol 1000 (google it) which involves taking 1-3 drops per hour for 8+ hours per day. It's supposed to be more effective than a big dose, and it's definitely easier on the tummy. On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Da Darrin ddarrin...@gmail.com wrote: V The way I use it is in the gas form called CDS. 15 drops, after the initial getting used to it, in about half a glass of apple juice. If you don't breath in through your nose so you don't smell it you can't hardly taste it at all. Dave On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 6:35 AM, V highergroun...@gmail.com wrote: lol, there will always be scaremongering. Sadly not for prescription meds, at least until the death toll is high enough. I have used MMS and you have to build up slowly. And there will always be those who don't follow direction. I moved to other alternatives as the smell was so nauseating after a while. A capsule method would be more palatable if I decide I want to use it again. On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Da Darrin ddarrin...@gmail.com wrote: OH MY GOD I'm dead. On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com wrote: On July 30, 2010 and again on October 1, 2010, the United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA), warned against the use of the product Miracle Mineral Supplement or MMS, which when made up according to instructions produces chlorine dioxide. MMS has been marketed as a treatment for a variety of conditions, including HIV, cancer, and acne. The FDA warnings informed consumers that MMS can cause serious harm to health, and stated that it has received numerous reports of nausea, severe vomiting, and life-threatening low blood pressure caused by dehydration,[29][30] among other symptoms, such as diarrhea. -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS - Re Silver gels as discussed
Just went and read their copy which is very interesting and full of hot air I know both companies and they are not my friends Sandee Attitude is everything !!! Sandra George Colloidal Silver Products Eye Drops Topical Gel aliveagai...@yahoo.com On 28 Oct 2014, at 16:34, Paul Steel pste...@yahoo.com wrote: There is this option as well MMS Tablets- More expensive...But certainly much easier http://mmstabs.com/ Paul From: V highergroun...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 2:25 PM Subject: Re: CS MMS Info Request Hmmm, I will have to check out CDS, do you have any links? I have also followed over the years and read the new protocols and like that idea better, spreading the drops out makes good sense! Thanks! On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote: You might consider the newer protocol 1000 (google it) which involves taking 1-3 drops per hour for 8+ hours per day. It's supposed to be more effective than a big dose, and it's definitely easier on the tummy. On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Da Darrin ddarrin...@gmail.com wrote: V The way I use it is in the gas form called CDS. 15 drops, after the initial getting used to it, in about half a glass of apple juice. If you don't breath in through your nose so you don't smell it you can't hardly taste it at all. Dave On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 6:35 AM, V highergroun...@gmail.com wrote: lol, there will always be scaremongering. Sadly not for prescription meds, at least until the death toll is high enough. I have used MMS and you have to build up slowly. And there will always be those who don't follow direction. I moved to other alternatives as the smell was so nauseating after a while. A capsule method would be more palatable if I decide I want to use it again. On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Da Darrin ddarrin...@gmail.com wrote: OH MY GOD I'm dead. On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com wrote: On July 30, 2010 and again on October 1, 2010, the United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA), warned against the use of the product Miracle Mineral Supplement or MMS, which when made up according to instructions produces chlorine dioxide. MMS has been marketed as a treatment for a variety of conditions, including HIV, cancer, and acne. The FDA warnings informed consumers that MMS can cause serious harm to health, and stated that it has received numerous reports of nausea, severe vomiting, and life-threatening low blood pressure caused by dehydration,[29][30] among other symptoms, such as diarrhea. -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSJim Humble.
Ron That was a smart move to keep the government off his tail. He calls his organisation a church of healing, not religion. Dave On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Ron ron@gmail.com wrote: Oddly I see this in the archives but it did not hit my inbox: Deborah Gerard http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=silver-list@eskimo.comq=from:%22Deborah+Gerard%22 Tue, 28 Oct 2014 12:46:45 -0700 http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=silver-list@eskimo.comq=date:20141028 http://www.activatedmineralsolution.com/jim-humble-mms-ams-bleach-accusations/ Big pharmacy is busy... == I wonder why he does not feel the need to furnish any info but his word? Probably because he signs his name as *Archbishop Jim Humble. * noun: archbishop 1. A bishop of highest rank Oh. Really? Ron -- http://www.avast.com/ This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active.
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2014 #248
Thinking of gelling ingredients - does anyone know how the elixa gel maker works - what ingredients, if any, it uses to make gel? And I'm still interested in additional information on the elixa silver makers. Has anyone used them? Thanks, Sara I have no experience with any CS gel because I'm allergic to the gelling ingredients. Just a thought because I notice most people forget to consider adverse reactions to any product might be caused by allergy to so-called inactive ingredients. sol
Re: CSMMS
An untamed ego is a terrible thing Sandee Attitude is everything !!! Sandra George Colloidal Silver Products Eye Drops Topical Gel aliveagai...@yahoo.com On 28 Oct 2014, at 16:53, Gail Naranjo wanda85...@yahoo.com wrote: He also said he was a god on another planet and came down to save mankind in one of his newsletters. Still I have read peoples' testimonials who did get benefits from MMS, and I have some in my own cupboard The whole church thing is creepy to me tho and I'm a Christian! Gail On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 1:10 PM, Scott Adams msad...@msadams.com wrote: I also do not trust Mr. Humble. His turning his business into an official religion, making MMS it’s sacrament and him the high priest was the final straw for me. Scott Adams I bet you know someone who has Chronic Lyme and doesn't realize it yet! www.lyme-resource.com From: Ron [mailto:ron@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 2:47 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMMS Not accusations. Opinions. I simply read all I could find on the internet both pro con. I evaluated the sources and decided that Humble was a not what he claimed to be and that MMS was in fact bleach. All of the stuff I read is available to anyone who will spend the time effort. Ron On 10/28/2014 11:34 AM, Alan Jones wrote: If you can support these accusations we'd all be very interested in hearing your evidence. On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Ron ron@gmail.com wrote: Some time ago I read a lot about Jim Humble and MMS. I decided that he was a co man and MMS was a total fraud and that you might as well dink household bleach and in fact that is about what you are consuming. All of the testimonials were from plants and most or all of the stuff written was written by Jim Humble himself. MMS is household bleach. Clorox by any other name. Ron This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution) This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMMS
Have you considered this may have been his way of trying to protect himself from persecution? PT From: Scott Adams msad...@msadams.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 4:09 PM Subject: RE: CSMMS I also do not trust Mr. Humble. His turning his business into an official religion, making MMS it’s sacrament and him the high priest was the final straw for me. Scott Adams I bet you know someone who has Chronic Lyme and doesn't realize it yet! www.lyme-resource.com From:Ron [mailto:ron@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 2:47 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMMS Not accusations. Opinions. I simply read all I could find on the internet both pro con. I evaluated the sources and decided that Humble was a not what he claimed to be and that MMS was in fact bleach. All of the stuff I read is available to anyone who will spend the time effort. Ron On 10/28/2014 11:34 AM, Alan Jones wrote: If you can support these accusations we'd all be very interested in hearing your evidence. On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Ron ron@gmail.com wrote: Some time ago I read a lot about Jim Humble and MMS. I decided that he was a co man and MMS was a total fraud and that you might as well dink household bleach and in fact that is about what you are consuming. All of the testimonials were from plants and most or all of the stuff written was written by Jim Humble himself. MMS is household bleach. Clorox by any other name. Ron This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution) This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active.
CSJim Humble
I don't like his religion either - and I think he could do a whole lot for a whole lot if he chose to give the research data, the specifics... which he really hasn't done.However, that being said, he HAS described the science of it. And there are many bright minds out there who have verified what he has to say. It is not bleach. Simple chemistry will tell you that. I seem to be highly sensitive to it, and never got over one drop at a time - my herx reactions are intense, and that was all I could tolerate. I have put it on the back burner as a must have first aid item, and in case of. Some bright minds are saying that the combo of MMS and CS is the most efficient/effective way of treating ebola. Does Humble's non-humble archbishopry make me want to barf? Absolutely!! But that does not mean MMS is worthless? No. My inner guides and my reading/study have told me it is an important thing to have available. I only have a little, just enough for personal use, but one doesn't need a lot of it. I must say it really angers me when anyone - like Jim Humble - makes their product THE answer to the world's problems. Certain brands of CS do the same thing. And it feeds the feds' reactions to such products.BUT just because the feds say MMS is a fraud - as they say of CS, it doesn't mean it is so. And it angers me when people take up that rhetoric, especially people who are benefitted by CS. I will also say, in defense of Humble. I think he's always had a non-humble attitude. But his religiousity I think came as a way to protect his product from being made illegal and confiscated. By declaring his company a church, and his distributors priests or ministers or whatever, and his product as a sacrament, he was trying to get around being completely shut down. He wanted what he believes (therefore the church) is a miracle product to not be again confiscated by the feds.Prety out of the box thinking.I'm not sure how honest it is, although I think he has convinced himself it is a matter of faith and principle as much as a matter of science. I'm not sure either how effective his defensive stance will be in the long run - in part because of his ego, and how his pompous attitude turns folks off. He's already defrocked and escommunicated one of his priests because he altered the teachings in some way from Humble's presentation. What a drama. Anyways, my 2 cents. Sara -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSJim Humble.
don't beat jim humble. i am a cs user, but i also use mms. actually, in flu seasons i prefer mms to cs. my experience is that it is more efficient. as soon as flu symptons appear a few drops of mms 2,3 times would be enough to recover completely. of course, msm and all the paid trolls on the internet would invent anything to discredit mms, just like they are doing now with cs. i remember 14 years ago when i looked for info on cs, 99% of the info was positive. now, what with trolls and pimp doctors and google cooperation with big pharma, we find more negative reviews. i have used mms for all types of flu and my relatives have used it successfully on chikungunya, and other infections. i bought mms (powder) on ebay. manufactured in turkey. On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 5:12 PM, Da Darrin ddarrin...@gmail.com wrote: Ron That was a smart move to keep the government off his tail. He calls his organisation a church of healing, not religion. Dave On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Ron ron@gmail.com wrote: Oddly I see this in the archives but it did not hit my inbox: Deborah Gerard Tue, 28 Oct 2014 12:46:45 -0700 http://www.activatedmineralsolution.com/jim-humble-mms-ams-bleach-accusations/ Big pharmacy is busy... == I wonder why he does not feel the need to furnish any info but his word? Probably because he signs his name as Archbishop Jim Humble. noun: archbishop 1. A bishop of highest rank Oh. Really? Ron This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active.
CSAn MMS article
Some chemical opinions here: http://healthwyze.org/index.php/component/content/article/320-jim-humbles-mms-fraud.html Ron --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSJim Humble.
Ya it sounds hokey and doesn't help with people who don't understand but he made that move to protect peoples right to choose alternatives. Makes good sense and I am renewed my membership in the church because they will take this right for its members to court. I don't know if they have had to yet or not as I became a member several years ago and let it lapse, so havent followed all that closely. It is one of many alternatives they wish to protect members rights to choose from. On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Da Darrin ddarrin...@gmail.com wrote: Ron That was a smart move to keep the government off his tail. He calls his organisation a church of healing, not religion. Dave On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Ron ron@gmail.com wrote: Oddly I see this in the archives but it did not hit my inbox: Deborah Gerard http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=silver-list@eskimo.comq=from:%22Deborah+Gerard%22 Tue, 28 Oct 2014 12:46:45 -0700 http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=silver-list@eskimo.comq=date:20141028 http://www.activatedmineralsolution.com/jim-humble-mms-ams-bleach-accusations/ Big pharmacy is busy... == I wonder why he does not feel the need to furnish any info but his word? Probably because he signs his name as *Archbishop Jim Humble. * noun: archbishop 1. A bishop of highest rank Oh. Really? Ron -- http://www.avast.com/ This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active.
Re: CS MMS Info Request
I haven't gotten any Just been following a few folks on another group that have switched there kids over to the tablets from the drops. I know there every happy about it as trying to get kids to swallow MMS isnt easy Paul From: Sandra George oha...@juno.com To: Mike Devour - Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 4:44 PM Subject: Re: CS MMS Info Request Where do you get yours from Paul? Sandee Attitude is everything !!! Sandra George Colloidal Silver Products Eye Drops Topical Gel aliveagai...@yahoo.com On 28 Oct 2014, at 16:34, Paul Steel pste...@yahoo.com wrote: There is this option as well MMS Tablets- More expensive...But certainly much easier http://mmstabs.com/ Paul From: V highergroun...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 2:25 PM Subject: Re: CS MMS Info Request Hmmm, I will have to check out CDS, do you have any links? I have also followed over the years and read the new protocols and like that idea better, spreading the drops out makes good sense! Thanks! On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote: You might consider the newer protocol 1000 (google it) which involves taking 1-3 drops per hour for 8+ hours per day. It's supposed to be more effective than a big dose, and it's definitely easier on the tummy. On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Da Darrin ddarrin...@gmail.com wrote: V The way I use it is in the gas form called CDS. 15 drops, after the initial getting used to it, in about half a glass of apple juice. If you don't breath in through your nose so you don't smell it you can't hardly taste it at all. Dave On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 6:35 AM, V highergroun...@gmail.com wrote: lol, there will always be scaremongering. Sadly not for prescription meds, at least until the death toll is high enough. I have used MMS and you have to build up slowly. And there will always be those who don't follow direction. I moved to other alternatives as the smell was so nauseating after a while. A capsule method would be more palatable if I decide I want to use it again. On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Da Darrin ddarrin...@gmail.com wrote: OH MY GOD I'm dead. On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com wrote: On July 30, 2010 and again on October 1, 2010, the United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA), warned against the use of the product Miracle Mineral Supplement or MMS, which when made up according to instructions produces chlorine dioxide. MMS has been marketed as a treatment for a variety of conditions, including HIV, cancer, and acne. The FDA warnings informed consumers that MMS can cause serious harm to health, and stated that it has received numerous reports of nausea, severe vomiting, and life-threatening low blood pressure caused by dehydration,[29][30] among other symptoms, such as diarrhea. -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSJim Humble
It does look crappy as far as the church thing, I think the move in general makes sense but the whole Bishop stuff makes me cringe. As far as is it honest to do this? I believe that it is! I believe with everything in me that we have the right to choose for ourselves and stop having others decide for us! We already are losing much by way of choice and if being a member of this church can make a difference for me in keeping my job as the mandate for being vaccinated or fired is held over our heads then I am in! Religious exemptions at least for now are possible. Not much here to disagree with... http://genesis2church.org/membership On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sara Mandal-Joy sara...@valnet.net wrote: I don't like his religion either - and I think he could do a whole lot for a whole lot if he chose to give the research data, the specifics... which he really hasn't done.However, that being said, he HAS described the science of it. And there are many bright minds out there who have verified what he has to say. It is not bleach. Simple chemistry will tell you that. I seem to be highly sensitive to it, and never got over one drop at a time - my herx reactions are intense, and that was all I could tolerate. I have put it on the back burner as a must have first aid item, and in case of. Some bright minds are saying that the combo of MMS and CS is the most efficient/effective way of treating ebola. Does Humble's non-humble archbishopry make me want to barf? Absolutely!! But that does not mean MMS is worthless? No. My inner guides and my reading/study have told me it is an important thing to have available. I only have a little, just enough for personal use, but one doesn't need a lot of it. I must say it really angers me when anyone - like Jim Humble - makes their product THE answer to the world's problems. Certain brands of CS do the same thing. And it feeds the feds' reactions to such products.BUT just because the feds say MMS is a fraud - as they say of CS, it doesn't mean it is so. And it angers me when people take up that rhetoric, especially people who are benefitted by CS. I will also say, in defense of Humble. I think he's always had a non-humble attitude. But his religiousity I think came as a way to protect his product from being made illegal and confiscated. By declaring his company a church, and his distributors priests or ministers or whatever, and his product as a sacrament, he was trying to get around being completely shut down. He wanted what he believes (therefore the church) is a miracle product to not be again confiscated by the feds.Prety out of the box thinking.I'm not sure how honest it is, although I think he has convinced himself it is a matter of faith and principle as much as a matter of science. I'm not sure either how effective his defensive stance will be in the long run - in part because of his ego, and how his pompous attitude turns folks off. He's already defrocked and escommunicated one of his priests because he altered the teachings in some way from Humble's presentation. What a drama. Anyways, my 2 cents. Sara -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/ maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS MMS Info Request
Thanks Paul I did not notice the url below got the site !!! Sandee Attitude is Everything Colloidal Silver Products Eye Drops Topical Gel On Oct 28, 2014, at 4:34 PM, Paul Steel pste...@yahoo.com wrote: There is this option as well MMS Tablets- More expensive...But certainly much easier http://mmstabs.com/ Paul From: V highergroun...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 2:25 PM Subject: Re: CS MMS Info Request Hmmm, I will have to check out CDS, do you have any links? I have also followed over the years and read the new protocols and like that idea better, spreading the drops out makes good sense! Thanks! On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote: You might consider the newer protocol 1000 (google it) which involves taking 1-3 drops per hour for 8+ hours per day. It's supposed to be more effective than a big dose, and it's definitely easier on the tummy. On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Da Darrin ddarrin...@gmail.com wrote: V The way I use it is in the gas form called CDS. 15 drops, after the initial getting used to it, in about half a glass of apple juice. If you don't breath in through your nose so you don't smell it you can't hardly taste it at all. Dave On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 6:35 AM, V highergroun...@gmail.com wrote: lol, there will always be scaremongering. Sadly not for prescription meds, at least until the death toll is high enough. I have used MMS and you have to build up slowly. And there will always be those who don't follow direction. I moved to other alternatives as the smell was so nauseating after a while. A capsule method would be more palatable if I decide I want to use it again. On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Da Darrin ddarrin...@gmail.com wrote: OH MY GOD I'm dead. On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com wrote: On July 30, 2010 and again on October 1, 2010, the United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA), warned against the use of the product Miracle Mineral Supplement or MMS, which when made up according to instructions produces chlorine dioxide. MMS has been marketed as a treatment for a variety of conditions, including HIV, cancer, and acne. The FDA warnings informed consumers that MMS can cause serious harm to health, and stated that it has received numerous reports of nausea, severe vomiting, and life-threatening low blood pressure caused by dehydration,[29][30] among other symptoms, such as diarrhea. -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
Re: CSJim Humble
This article does bear that out : http://www.theguardian.com/science/2010/sep/15/miracle-mineral-solutions-mms-bleach Ron Look at the Catholics. Their priests have been molesting women and children for centuries and the governments have not been able to stop it. If handled properly a church can protect us from vaccinations that we don't want, from forced insurance, and from many things that a government might want to use to oppress us. On 10/28/2014 2:14 PM, V wrote: It does look crappy as far as the church thing, I think the move in general makes sense but the whole Bishop stuff makes me cringe. As far as is it honest to do this? I believe that it is! I believe with everything in me that we have the right to choose for ourselves and stop having others decide for us! We already are losing much by way of choice and if being a member of this church can make a difference for me in keeping my job as the mandate for being vaccinated or fired is held over our heads then I am in! Religious exemptions at least for now are possible. Not much here to disagree with... http://genesis2church.org/membership On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sara Mandal-Joy sara...@valnet.net mailto:sara...@valnet.net wrote: I don't like his religion either - and I think he could do a whole lot for a whole lot if he chose to give the research data, the specifics... which he really hasn't done.However, that being said, he HAS described the science of it. And there are many bright minds out there who have verified what he has to say. It is not bleach. Simple chemistry will tell you that. I seem to be highly sensitive to it, and never got over one drop at a time - my herx reactions are intense, and that was all I could tolerate. I have put it on the back burner as a must have first aid item, and in case of. Some bright minds are saying that the combo of MMS and CS is the most efficient/effective way of treating ebola. Does Humble's non-humble archbishopry make me want to barf? Absolutely!! But that does not mean MMS is worthless? No. My inner guides and my reading/study have told me it is an important thing to have available. I only have a little, just enough for personal use, but one doesn't need a lot of it. I must say it really angers me when anyone - like Jim Humble - makes their product THE answer to the world's problems. Certain brands of CS do the same thing. And it feeds the feds' reactions to such products.BUT just because the feds say MMS is a fraud - as they say of CS, it doesn't mean it is so. And it angers me when people take up that rhetoric, especially people who are benefitted by CS. I will also say, in defense of Humble. I think he's always had a non-humble attitude. But his religiousity I think came as a way to protect his product from being made illegal and confiscated. By declaring his company a church, and his distributors priests or ministers or whatever, and his product as a sacrament, he was trying to get around being completely shut down. He wanted what he believes (therefore the church) is a miracle product to not be again confiscated by the feds.Prety out of the box thinking. I'm not sure how honest it is, although I think he has convinced himself it is a matter of faith and principle as much as a matter of science. I'm not sure either how effective his defensive stance will be in the long run - in part because of his ego, and how his pompous attitude turns folks off. He's already defrocked and escommunicated one of his priests because he altered the teachings in some way from Humble's presentation. What a drama. Anyways, my 2 cents. Sara -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: CSMMS
We'd used Closys II toothpaste and mouthwash for years on the recommendation of our dentist. It contains stabilized chlorine dioxide and has really been of great benefit to our dental health. So when I heard about MMS, I was willing to try it based on our experience, and did so for a few months, but my instincts very quickly made me recoil from it and finally I had to listen. I keep it on hand for a last ditch remedy for what horrific pathogen might come our way where nothing else works, but really, I listen to my body and it says, NO!, unequivocally. Be well, Léna On Oct 28, 2014, at 4:53 PM, Gail Naranjo wrote: He also said he was a god on another planet and came down to save mankind in one of his newsletters. Still I have read peoples' testimonials who did get benefits from MMS, and I have some in my own cupboard The whole church thing is creepy to me tho and I'm a Christian! Gail On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 1:10 PM, Scott Adams msad...@msadams.com wrote: I also do not trust Mr. Humble. His turning his business into an official religion, making MMS it’s sacrament and him the high priest was the final straw for me. Scott Adams I bet you know someone who has Chronic Lyme and doesn't realize it yet! www.lyme-resource.com From: Ron [mailto:ron@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 2:47 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMMS Not accusations. Opinions. I simply read all I could find on the internet both pro con. I evaluated the sources and decided that Humble was a not what he claimed to be and that MMS was in fact bleach. All of the stuff I read is available to anyone who will spend the time effort. Ron On 10/28/2014 11:34 AM, Alan Jones wrote: If you can support these accusations we'd all be very interested in hearing your evidence. On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Ron ron@gmail.com wrote: Some time ago I read a lot about Jim Humble and MMS. I decided that he was a co man and MMS was a total fraud and that you might as well dink household bleach and in fact that is about what you are consuming. All of the testimonials were from plants and most or all of the stuff written was written by Jim Humble himself. MMS is household bleach. Clorox by any other name. Ron This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution) This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active.
Re: CSJim Humble
Hi Folks, seems to be quite an issue over MMS and other products used to eliminate disease..It is very obvious that some people on this list has not done any research into MMS, Sodium Chlorite and other protocols used by the genesis 2 church.. I would suggest that you do some ..I have seen hundreds of people who have recovered from many deadly diseases using MMS..It has nothing to do with Chlorine which is carcinogenic but it does share the name chlorine..they are completely different.. Jim Humble is a very sincere person who has helped thousands to recover from the disease all over the world..He makes no money from MMS but does from the books and things he sells.. There has been more then twenty million bottles of MMS used since it was invented in the year 2000.. and no one has been harmed by it except for some diahrea and stomache pain which proves it is working and as you know...Ebola is coming and you will need every bit of help you can get to save yourself from this deadly virus..It has been weaponized for biowarfare to kill a lot of people and I understand MMS and Colloidal Silver are very effective against it..A lot of things have been found about Ebola or hemorrhagic fever in the last two weeks..World depopulation is the issue with ebola. Don't take a dislike to Jim Humble and MMS..but visit this website to learn more about it..You will be glad you did... http://genesis2church.org I hope this helps AJR -Original Message- From: Sara Mandal-Joy Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 7:16 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSJim Humble I don't like his religion either - and I think he could do a whole lot for a whole lot if he chose to give the research data, the specifics... which he really hasn't done.However, that being said, he HAS described the science of it. And there are many bright minds out there who have verified what he has to say. It is not bleach. Simple chemistry will tell you that. I seem to be highly sensitive to it, and never got over one drop at a time - my herx reactions are intense, and that was all I could tolerate. I have put it on the back burner as a must have first aid item, and in case of. Some bright minds are saying that the combo of MMS and CS is the most efficient/effective way of treating ebola. Does Humble's non-humble archbishopry make me want to barf? Absolutely!! But that does not mean MMS is worthless? No. My inner guides and my reading/study have told me it is an important thing to have available. I only have a little, just enough for personal use, but one doesn't need a lot of it. I must say it really angers me when anyone - like Jim Humble - makes their product THE answer to the world's problems. Certain brands of CS do the same thing. And it feeds the feds' reactions to such products.BUT just because the feds say MMS is a fraud - as they say of CS, it doesn't mean it is so. And it angers me when people take up that rhetoric, especially people who are benefitted by CS. I will also say, in defense of Humble. I think he's always had a non-humble attitude. But his religiousity I think came as a way to protect his product from being made illegal and confiscated. By declaring his company a church, and his distributors priests or ministers or whatever, and his product as a sacrament, he was trying to get around being completely shut down. He wanted what he believes (therefore the church) is a miracle product to not be again confiscated by the feds.Prety out of the box thinking.I'm not sure how honest it is, although I think he has convinced himself it is a matter of faith and principle as much as a matter of science. I'm not sure either how effective his defensive stance will be in the long run - in part because of his ego, and how his pompous attitude turns folks off. He's already defrocked and escommunicated one of his priests because he altered the teachings in some way from Humble's presentation. What a drama. Anyways, my 2 cents. Sara -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSbrand new to list
Hi Claire, Welcome aboard. You have come to the right place. I recommend getting a device to make your own CS, as it is much cheaper in the long run, and you have guaranteed quality control that way. It is recommended to keep the CS in your mouth for a minute or so, as that seems to give it more effectiveness by having it absorbed into your bloodstream through your mouth. I think taking CS on an empty stomach is good, as it is absorbed quickly. It is good to follow it with water, and I also recommend having yogurt, kefir, or some fermented foods at some point after taking CS. There are many different recommendations for how to take CS. I often drink or sip CS without any other water or food, as it is not harmful. And sometimes I only keep it in my mouth for several minutes, and do not swallow it. Some people have a more gentle stomach than others, and the foods mentioned above will help keep any stomach in good balance. You will usually hear people here talk about CS strength in PPM, such as 10ppm. For example, it might be recommended that you drink 4 or 8 ounces of 10ppm CS a day. This is very easy and cheap if you own your own device. I use a device from silverpuppy.com. There are a couple of other good devices too. Finally, you might want to take a look at bobbeck.com, as I know that lyme disease is extremely difficult to get rid of, and many people have used the Beck Protocol with great success. The Beck Protocol uses CS too. Good luck. Victor On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 3:05 AM, Claire Closmann cclosm...@gmail.com wrote: Dear CS list, I am brand new to this list. I found out about it through the Lyme Buhner list. I have been diagnosed with Lyme disease and likely have several of the coinfections. Numerous people who have recovered successfully from Lyme, along with my practitioner, recommend using colloidal silver in support of my treatment. I am taking it along with antibiotics. If Lyme is truly what I have, I have had it for about 18 years. I am currently taking 3 tsp of 150 mcg purified silver (ea. tsp) daily. Can anyone recommend if it is best taken as 3 separate teaspoons throughout the day, or all at once. Also, should it be taken on an empty stomach, even with no water? Thank you so much for your ideas and suggestions, Claire
CSThe truth about MMS and CDS
Dear Ron: I want to clarify something: “Bleach IS Sodium Hypochlorite”, a very different product as Chlorine Dioxide. I have being using MMS since 8 year ago and believe me this product rocks. My sons and grandsons is what they use as soon as they feel sick. We also use Colloidal Silver, but when we feel is not working fast enough, we switch to CDS (Chlorite Dioxide Solution). Genesis II (church of health and Wellness) is just a way to protect against the FDA persecution, as they have no jurisdiction over Churches. Just fallow the money, Jim had to leave USA and now live in Mexico and travel around the world for his seminars. His live stile is a modest one. He just earn from his books, all the products are sold by different people all around the world, so he earn nothing from them. You can’t see any luxury around him, he don’t even have a car. After seeing what great products MMS and CDS were, I went to one of his seminars/workshops, we were 48 people from all around the world. Now I’m a minister of Genesis II and the seminar was the large one to be able to teach MMS and CDS to others. Please do not do the same FDA is doing with Colloidal Silver, scaring the people about an excellent and live saving product. Jim Humble Responds to FDA Campaign against MMS www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmkfr8bIajc Testimonials in Video https://www.youtube.com/user/MMStestimonials/videos Written Testimonials http://genesis2church.org/all-mms-testimonials LEAKED: Proof the Red Cross Cured 154 Malaria Cases with MMS www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrwZN1cPfX8 All the best Raul
CSInformation on MMS
http://mmswiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page this website will answer most of your questions and keep you informed AJR
CSA paper on MMS...Chlorine Dioxide
http://www.finnestate.fi/Chlorine%20Dioxide.pdf
CSThe Facts About MMS
http://factsheetproject.org/mmsfactssheet.pdf/ If you have any doubts about MMS...Here are the Facts you should know...
Re: CSJim Humble
I wondered when some of the 'ringers' would filter in. Ron On 10/28/2014 3:09 PM, AJR wrote: Hi Folks, seems to be quite an issue over MMS and other products used to eliminate disease..It is very obvious that some people on this list has not done any research into MMS, Sodium Chlorite and other protocols used by the genesis 2 church.. I would suggest that you do some ..I have seen hundreds of people who have recovered from many deadly diseases using MMS..It has nothing to do with Chlorine which is carcinogenic but it does share the name chlorine..they are completely different.. Jim Humble is a very sincere person who has helped thousands to recover from the disease all over the world..He makes no money from MMS but does from the books and things he sells.. There has been more then twenty million bottles of MMS used since it was invented in the year 2000.. and no one has been harmed by it except for some diahrea and stomache pain which proves it is working and as you know...Ebola is coming and you will need every bit of help you can get to save yourself from this deadly virus..It has been weaponized for biowarfare to kill a lot of people and I understand MMS and Colloidal Silver are very effective against it..A lot of things have been found about Ebola or hemorrhagic fever in the last two weeks..World depopulation is the issue with ebola. Don't take a dislike to Jim Humble and MMS..but visit this website to learn more about it..You will be glad you did... http://genesis2church.org I hope this helps AJR -Original Message- From: Sara Mandal-Joy Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 7:16 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSJim Humble I don't like his religion either - and I think he could do a whole lot for a whole lot if he chose to give the research data, the specifics... which he really hasn't done.However, that being said, he HAS described the science of it. And there are many bright minds out there who have verified what he has to say. It is not bleach. Simple chemistry will tell you that. I seem to be highly sensitive to it, and never got over one drop at a time - my herx reactions are intense, and that was all I could tolerate. I have put it on the back burner as a must have first aid item, and in case of. Some bright minds are saying that the combo of MMS and CS is the most efficient/effective way of treating ebola. Does Humble's non-humble archbishopry make me want to barf? Absolutely!! But that does not mean MMS is worthless? No. My inner guides and my reading/study have told me it is an important thing to have available. I only have a little, just enough for personal use, but one doesn't need a lot of it. I must say it really angers me when anyone - like Jim Humble - makes their product THE answer to the world's problems. Certain brands of CS do the same thing. And it feeds the feds' reactions to such products.BUT just because the feds say MMS is a fraud - as they say of CS, it doesn't mean it is so. And it angers me when people take up that rhetoric, especially people who are benefitted by CS. I will also say, in defense of Humble. I think he's always had a non-humble attitude. But his religiousity I think came as a way to protect his product from being made illegal and confiscated. By declaring his company a church, and his distributors priests or ministers or whatever, and his product as a sacrament, he was trying to get around being completely shut down. He wanted what he believes (therefore the church) is a miracle product to not be again confiscated by the feds.Prety out of the box thinking.I'm not sure how honest it is, although I think he has convinced himself it is a matter of faith and principle as much as a matter of science. I'm not sure either how effective his defensive stance will be in the long run - in part because of his ego, and how his pompous attitude turns folks off. He's already defrocked and escommunicated one of his priests because he altered the teachings in some way from Humble's presentation. What a drama. Anyways, my 2 cents. Sara -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: CSA paper on MMS...Chlorine Dioxide
Not approved for internal use. Ron On 10/28/2014 4:31 PM, AJR wrote: http://www.finnestate.fi/Chlorine%20Dioxide.pdf --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: CSInformation on MMS
A cursory perusal of this looks worse than Wakapedia. On 10/28/2014 4:00 PM, AJR wrote: http://mmswiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page this website will answer most of your questions and keep you informed AJR --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: CSJim Humble
So Ron you haven't tried it, don't know anyone who has and you are just suspicious and willing to say nasty things about it. Hmm I have tried it, it does work as advertised, which in my case was to clean up the last vestiges of arthritis in my elbow. The Arthritis has not come back at all in probably 4 months. I joined the church, so that some clown from Health Canada will not bother me. Even here in Canada Health Canada can send in the jackboots if they get the notion. Al On 2014-10-28, at 17:49 PM, Ron wrote: I wondered when some of the 'ringers' would filter in. On 2014-10-28, at 17:49 PM, Ron wrote: I wondered when some of the 'ringers' would filter in. Ron On 10/28/2014 3:09 PM, AJR wrote: Hi Folks, seems to be quite an issue over MMS and other products used to eliminate disease..It is very obvious that some people on this list has not done any research into MMS, Sodium Chlorite and other protocols used by the genesis 2 church.. I would suggest that you do some ..I have seen hundreds of people who have recovered from many deadly diseases using MMS..It has nothing to do with Chlorine which is carcinogenic but it does share the name chlorine..they are completely different.. Jim Humble is a very sincere person who has helped thousands to recover from the disease all over the world..He makes no money from MMS but does from the books and things he sells.. There has been more then twenty million bottles of MMS used since it was invented in the year 2000.. and no one has been harmed by it except for some diahrea and stomache pain which proves it is working and as you know...Ebola is coming and you will need every bit of help you can get to save yourself from this deadly virus..It has been weaponized for biowarfare to kill a lot of people and I understand MMS and Colloidal Silver are very effective against it..A lot of things have been found about Ebola or hemorrhagic fever in the last two weeks..World depopulation is the issue with ebola. Don't take a dislike to Jim Humble and MMS..but visit this website to learn more about it..You will be glad you did... http://genesis2church.org I hope this helps AJR -Original Message- From: Sara Mandal-Joy Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 7:16 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSJim Humble I don't like his religion either - and I think he could do a whole lot for a whole lot if he chose to give the research data, the specifics... which he really hasn't done.However, that being said, he HAS described the science of it. And there are many bright minds out there who have verified what he has to say. It is not bleach. Simple chemistry will tell you that. I seem to be highly sensitive to it, and never got over one drop at a time - my herx reactions are intense, and that was all I could tolerate. I have put it on the back burner as a must have first aid item, and in case of. Some bright minds are saying that the combo of MMS and CS is the most efficient/effective way of treating ebola. Does Humble's non-humble archbishopry make me want to barf? Absolutely!! But that does not mean MMS is worthless? No. My inner guides and my reading/study have told me it is an important thing to have available. I only have a little, just enough for personal use, but one doesn't need a lot of it. I must say it really angers me when anyone - like Jim Humble - makes their product THE answer to the world's problems. Certain brands of CS do the same thing. And it feeds the feds' reactions to such products.BUT just because the feds say MMS is a fraud - as they say of CS, it doesn't mean it is so. And it angers me when people take up that rhetoric, especially people who are benefitted by CS. I will also say, in defense of Humble. I think he's always had a non-humble attitude. But his religiousity I think came as a way to protect his product from being made illegal and confiscated. By declaring his company a church, and his distributors priests or ministers or whatever, and his product as a sacrament, he was trying to get around being completely shut down. He wanted what he believes (therefore the church) is a miracle product to not be again confiscated by the feds.Prety out of the box thinking.I'm not sure how honest it is, although I think he has convinced himself it is a matter of faith and principle as much as a matter of science. I'm not sure either how effective his defensive stance will be in the long run - in part because of his ego, and how his pompous attitude turns folks off. He's already defrocked and escommunicated one of his priests because he altered the teachings in some way from Humble's presentation. What a drama. Anyways, my 2 cents. Sara -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe:
Re: CSJim Humble
Do you suppose Ron is a ringer for the opposition? Those of us who have tried it know it works. Dave On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Alan Faulkner ala...@gmail.com wrote: So Ron you haven't tried it, don't know anyone who has and you are just suspicious and willing to say nasty things about it. Hmm I have tried it, it does work as advertised, which in my case was to clean up the last vestiges of arthritis in my elbow. The Arthritis has not come back at all in probably 4 months. I joined the church, so that some clown from Health Canada will not bother me. Even here in Canada Health Canada can send in the jackboots if they get the notion. Al On 2014-10-28, at 17:49 PM, Ron wrote: I wondered when some of the 'ringers' would filter in. On 2014-10-28, at 17:49 PM, Ron wrote: I wondered when some of the 'ringers' would filter in. Ron On 10/28/2014 3:09 PM, AJR wrote: Hi Folks, seems to be quite an issue over MMS and other products used to eliminate disease..It is very obvious that some people on this list has not done any research into MMS, Sodium Chlorite and other protocols used by the genesis 2 church.. I would suggest that you do some ..I have seen hundreds of people who have recovered from many deadly diseases using MMS..It has nothing to do with Chlorine which is carcinogenic but it does share the name chlorine..they are completely different.. Jim Humble is a very sincere person who has helped thousands to recover from the disease all over the world..He makes no money from MMS but does from the books and things he sells.. There has been more then twenty million bottles of MMS used since it was invented in the year 2000.. and no one has been harmed by it except for some diahrea and stomache pain which proves it is working and as you know...Ebola is coming and you will need every bit of help you can get to save yourself from this deadly virus..It has been weaponized for biowarfare to kill a lot of people and I understand MMS and Colloidal Silver are very effective against it..A lot of things have been found about Ebola or hemorrhagic fever in the last two weeks..World depopulation is the issue with ebola. Don't take a dislike to Jim Humble and MMS..but visit this website to learn more about it..You will be glad you did... http://genesis2church.org I hope this helps AJR -Original Message- From: Sara Mandal-Joy Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 7:16 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSJim Humble I don't like his religion either - and I think he could do a whole lot for a whole lot if he chose to give the research data, the specifics... which he really hasn't done.However, that being said, he HAS described the science of it. And there are many bright minds out there who have verified what he has to say. It is not bleach. Simple chemistry will tell you that. I seem to be highly sensitive to it, and never got over one drop at a time - my herx reactions are intense, and that was all I could tolerate. I have put it on the back burner as a must have first aid item, and in case of. Some bright minds are saying that the combo of MMS and CS is the most efficient/effective way of treating ebola. Does Humble's non-humble archbishopry make me want to barf? Absolutely!! But that does not mean MMS is worthless? No. My inner guides and my reading/study have told me it is an important thing to have available. I only have a little, just enough for personal use, but one doesn't need a lot of it. I must say it really angers me when anyone - like Jim Humble - makes their product THE answer to the world's problems. Certain brands of CS do the same thing. And it feeds the feds' reactions to such products.BUT just because the feds say MMS is a fraud - as they say of CS, it doesn't mean it is so. And it angers me when people take up that rhetoric, especially people who are benefitted by CS. I will also say, in defense of Humble. I think he's always had a non-humble attitude. But his religiousity I think came as a way to protect his product from being made illegal and confiscated. By declaring his company a church, and his distributors priests or ministers or whatever, and his product as a sacrament, he was trying to get around being completely shut down. He wanted what he believes (therefore the church) is a miracle product to not be again confiscated by the feds.Prety out of the box thinking.I'm not sure how honest it is, although I think he has convinced himself it is a matter of faith and principle as much as a matter of science. I'm not sure either how effective his defensive stance will be in the long run - in part because of his ego, and how his pompous attitude turns folks off. He's already defrocked and escommunicated one of his priests because he altered the teachings in some way from Humble's
Re: CSJim Humble
Well, I thought the Religion route was innovative. But if he is to be believed, and I have no reason to doubt his word, his church does not sell MMS. He conducts training seminars. He sells his e-books. But he truly seems to be on a mission to help as many as possible from illness by spreading the good word about MMSI and MMSII. It is my understanding that his church makes MMS available at clinics for free and that they are interested in helping people defeat illnesses. I don't think has ever claimed that MMS is the only answer to the world's problems, but it certainly is what he's all about. It's enough to work on without taking up more things. He also is not trying to protect himself from the Feds by having a church. He protects himself from the Feds by never again setting foot inside the US. He has seen too many folks with non-FDA approaches to illness just plain disappear and doesn't want this to happen to himself. I don't recall whether his archbishops are forbidden from selling MMS kits or not. I kinda suspect this is the case, but I really don't know. Seems like it would be forbidden in order to avoid harming the perception of MMS by a skeptical public. Overall, I think Humble is a good guy. One of the good things about MMS and MMSII is that all of the authoritative discussion seems pretty coherent and consistent, especially since it all eminates from one place. With CS, it's totally different. You have all kinds of people worldwide making many different claims. There is a lot of conflicting info out there that makes it hard to get a handle on what is true and what isn't. Plus people making claims that THEIR CS is better than anyone else's. So it goes. There is much to learn about CS as well as MMS and other alternative approaches. I just want something that helps. Steve From: Sara Mandal-Joy sara...@valnet.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 5:46 PM Subject: CSJim Humble I don't like his religion either - and I think he could do a whole lot for a whole lot if he chose to give the research data, the specifics... which he really hasn't done. However, that being said, he HAS described the science of it. And there are many bright minds out there who have verified what he has to say. It is not bleach. Simple chemistry will tell you that. I seem to be highly sensitive to it, and never got over one drop at a time - my herx reactions are intense, and that was all I could tolerate. I have put it on the back burner as a must have first aid item, and in case of. Some bright minds are saying that the combo of MMS and CS is the most efficient/effective way of treating ebola. Does Humble's non-humble archbishopry make me want to barf? Absolutely!! But that does not mean MMS is worthless? No. My inner guides and my reading/study have told me it is an important thing to have available. I only have a little, just enough for personal use, but one doesn't need a lot of it. I must say it really angers me when anyone - like Jim Humble - makes their product THE answer to the world's problems. Certain brands of CS do the same thing. And it feeds the feds' reactions to such products. BUT just because the feds say MMS is a fraud - as they say of CS, it doesn't mean it is so. And it angers me when people take up that rhetoric, especially people who are benefitted by CS. I will also say, in defense of Humble. I think he's always had a non-humble attitude. But his religiousity I think came as a way to protect his product from being made illegal and confiscated. By declaring his company a church, and his distributors priests or ministers or whatever, and his product as a sacrament, he was trying to get around being completely shut down. He wanted what he believes (therefore the church) is a miracle product to not be again confiscated by the feds. Prety out of the box thinking. I'm not sure how honest it is, although I think he has convinced himself it is a matter of faith and principle as much as a matter of science. I'm not sure either how effective his defensive stance will be in the long run - in part because of his ego, and how his pompous attitude turns folks off. He's already defrocked and escommunicated one of his priests because he altered the teachings in some way from Humble's presentation. What a drama. Anyways, my 2 cents. Sara -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMMS
I don't know if he really ever claimed to be a god from another planet. Sounds more like a deliberate mis-characterization of the following he wrote in a newsletter once: More than 1/2 of all the students that have arrived here have told me, I believe in MMS, but there is some other reason why I came. I just had to come. Something made me come. OK, so let me tell you a little more about the dream. A large group of us, well small group in relation to the number of people on this planet, lived on another planet, in another galaxy. We were assembled together at that time in the past. And without getting into a lot of details we agreed to finally assemble on Earth in the beginning of the 3rd Millennium for the purpose of creating peace on Earth and in the Galaxy. The dream included the fact that we were losing our powers and that they would all be lost by the time we finally arrived on Earth or by the beginning of the 3rd Millennium. But that was part of the “big plan”. The Gods on Mount Olympus were the last to lose their powers. And another Amazing part. These students, are both young and old from around the world, and although they mostly haven't remembered the dream like some others have, more than 90% of them have said that they believe in the dream and they know it is our job to help bring peace to Earth and that we will be a great part of the peace movement. Part of the dream is as our emblem says, A world without disease. They have all said that they want to help and be a part of the Ministers of Health of the Genesis 2 church of Health and healing. On Oct 28, 2014 3:53 PM, Gail Naranjo wanda85...@yahoo.com wrote: He also said he was a god on another planet and came down to save mankind in one of his newsletters. Still I have read peoples' testimonials who did get benefits from MMS, and I have some in my own cupboard The whole church thing is creepy to me tho and I'm a Christian! Gail On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 1:10 PM, Scott Adams msad...@msadams.com wrote: I also do not trust Mr. Humble. His turning his business into an official religion, making MMS it’s sacrament and him the high priest was the final straw for me. Scott Adams I bet you know someone who has Chronic Lyme and doesn't realize it yet! www.lyme-resource.com *From:* Ron [mailto:ron@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2014 2:47 PM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSMMS Not accusations. Opinions. I simply read all I could find on the internet both pro con. I evaluated the sources and decided that Humble was a not what he claimed to be and that MMS was in fact bleach. All of the stuff I read is available to anyone who will spend the time effort. Ron On 10/28/2014 11:34 AM, Alan Jones wrote: If you can support these accusations we'd all be very interested in hearing your evidence. On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Ron ron@gmail.com wrote: Some time ago I read a lot about Jim Humble and MMS. I decided that he was a co man and MMS was a total fraud and that you might as well dink household bleach and in fact that is about what you are consuming. All of the testimonials were from plants and most or all of the stuff written was written by Jim Humble himself. MMS is household bleach. Clorox by any other name. Ron -- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution) -- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active.
