Re: CSUsing CS for A/C maintenance

2015-06-19 Thread Patricia
Sam, I just don't know anything about that.  sorry.  I use it to spray a 
room to clean the air.. but have never used it

to clean with.  guess you could try it and let us know.

On 6/19/2015 2:22 PM, Sam wrote:

Hello to all!
Could we use CS in our split system room A/Cs, for spritzing the 
aluminum fin coils in lieu of using chemical cleaners?

Thanks!
Sam the newbie




Re: CSPicc Line?

2015-06-19 Thread Phil Morrison
CS in IVs have a long history.

Medical journal reports and documented studies spanning the past 100 years
indicate no known side effects from oral or IV administration of colloidal
silver in animal or human testing.

http://www.johncfish.com/silver/index.htm


Re: CSPicc Line?

2015-06-19 Thread Patricia
Dee, it seems like it would but I would not use it in an IV.   I just 
think that is dangerous ground. Inhalation gets into your system very 
effectively.   dunno I'm not an
expert.  I love the CS and have used for a long time.  I have the silver 
puppy from Ode and it is awesome.


On 6/19/2015 3:00 AM, Dee wrote:
But wouldn't it be sterile Because the silver is in it? After all, 
that is what we all use it for ie to kill almost all known single 
celled pathogensDee


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On 19 Jun 2015, at 02:09, Theresa tmswift777...@gmail.com 
mailto:tmswift777...@gmail.com wrote:


Sterile means no microbes, bacteria are in the solution. The water we 
use is not sterile, it's distilled. Don't know where to get sterile 
distilled water. Then the silver is not sterile. The bottle you put 
it in is not sterile.
You need a source of sterile silver solution prescribed by a 
physician. DO NOT inject anything in your pic line not prescribed. 
You are playing w fire and potentially exposing yourself to serious 
infection.
Using it in a neb is consider safer. The silver gets into the 
bloodstream there without risk of systemic infection.

T

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 18, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Reece Maxey ozarko...@att.net 
mailto:ozarko...@att.net wrote:



Would you please explain what you mean by not sterile?
Opa

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On Jun 18, 2015, at 7:32 PM, Theresa tmswift777...@gmail.com 
mailto:tmswift777...@gmail.com wrote:


Silver we make is not sterile. There are some doctors treating Lyme 
disease w IV silver. Need to figure out how to sterilize it or get 
it sterile.

T
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 18, 2015, at 7:17 PM, Lola Harris phoenix23...@tds.net 
mailto:phoenix23...@tds.net wrote:


I agree with Patricia.  Inhaling and consuming the cs should be 
effective.
What are you trying to do?  I don't think I have ever heard of cs 
being

used by IV.  Maybe it has but I haven't read/heard about it.
Lola

- Original Message -
From: Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com mailto:pcassi...@tx.rr.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 19:02:49 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: CSPicc Line?

I would sure want to trust who made
it.. Know it was made with distilled water and bottle not
contaminated from other uses.

I would not be comfortable injecting itto picc line.   I would use
it in a nebulizer and inhale it.


On 6/18/2015 5:50 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:

This is a
question posted at another group that I am in...calling on
the smart people here.

  Is the
Silver still sterile and safe to be injected into my Picc
line? And is the remaining Silver in the bottle safe to use
again for more IV? Hoping someone will be able to help. Thanks
in advance.

Thanks folks,
Debbie








Re: CSPicc Line?

2015-06-19 Thread pcassidy1
Ode, seems like microwaving  would destroy the CS ?  Making it toxic for IV 
use?   I don't know. Just my thought.  

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 On Jun 19, 2015, at 3:41 AM, Ode Coyote silverpuppy1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 CS is sometimes used in an IV drip.  If you have any doubts about sterility, 
 boil it. [nuke it right in its container ]
 Ode
 
 On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com wrote:
 I would sure want to trust who made it.. Know it was made with distilled 
 water and bottle not contaminated from other uses. 
 I would not be comfortable injecting itto picc line.   I would use it in a 
 nebulizer and inhale it.
 
 On 6/18/2015 5:50 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:
 This is a question posted at another group that I am in...calling on the 
 smart people here.
 
   Is the Silver still sterile and safe to be injected into my Picc line? 
 And is the remaining Silver in the bottle safe to use again for more IV? 
 Hoping someone will be able to help. Thanks in advance.
 
 Thanks folks,
 Debbie
 
 


Re: CSPicc Line?

2015-06-19 Thread Dee
But wouldn't it be sterile Because the silver is in it? After all, that is what 
we all use it for ie to kill almost all known single celled pathogensDee

Sent from my iPad

 On 19 Jun 2015, at 02:09, Theresa tmswift777...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Sterile means no microbes, bacteria are in the solution. The water we use is 
 not sterile, it's distilled. Don't know where to get sterile distilled water. 
 Then the silver is not sterile. The bottle you put it in is not sterile. 
 You need a source of sterile silver solution prescribed by a physician. DO 
 NOT inject anything in your pic line not prescribed. You are playing w fire 
 and potentially exposing yourself to serious infection. 
 Using it in a neb is consider safer. The silver gets into the bloodstream 
 there without risk of systemic infection. 
 T
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 18, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Reece Maxey ozarko...@att.net wrote:
 
 Would you please explain what you mean by not sterile?
 Opa
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Jun 18, 2015, at 7:32 PM, Theresa tmswift777...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Silver we make is not sterile. There are some doctors treating Lyme disease 
 w IV silver. Need to figure out how to sterilize it or get it sterile. 
 T
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 18, 2015, at 7:17 PM, Lola Harris phoenix23...@tds.net wrote:
 
 I agree with Patricia.  Inhaling and consuming the cs should be effective. 
 What are you trying to do?  I don't think I have ever heard of cs being
 used by IV.  Maybe it has but I haven't read/heard about it. 
 Lola
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 19:02:49 -0400 (EDT)
 Subject: Re: CSPicc Line?
 
 I would sure want to trust who made
 it.. Know it was made with distilled water and bottle not
 contaminated from other uses. 
 
 I would not be comfortable injecting itto picc line.   I would use
 it in a nebulizer and inhale it.
 
 
 On 6/18/2015 5:50 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:
 This is a
 question posted at another group that I am in...calling on
 the smart people here.
 
   Is the
 Silver still sterile and safe to be injected into my Picc
 line? And is the remaining Silver in the bottle safe to use
 again for more IV? Hoping someone will be able to help. Thanks
 in advance.
 
 Thanks folks,
 Debbie
 
 
 


Re: CSPicc Line?

2015-06-19 Thread Ode Coyote
CS is sometimes used in an IV drip.  If you have any doubts about
sterility, boil it. [nuke it right in its container ]
Ode

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com wrote:

  I would sure want to trust who made it.. Know it was made with distilled
 water and bottle not contaminated from other uses.
 I would not be comfortable injecting itto picc line.   I would use it in a
 nebulizer and inhale it.

 On 6/18/2015 5:50 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:

  This is a question posted at another group that I am in...calling on
 the smart people here.

Is the Silver still sterile and safe to be injected into my Picc line?
 And is the remaining Silver in the bottle safe to use again for more IV?
 Hoping someone will be able to help. Thanks in advance.

  Thanks folks,
 Debbie





Re: CSPicc Line?

2015-06-19 Thread Theresa
Sterility can take time. Cultures of pathogens treated with silver show that 
silver kills the bugs. But not instantly and not always 100%.  If you give a 
bacteria or virus direct access to your blood, even in small numbers you could 
get a blood infection, or heart muscle infection and die. I don't know why you 
have the pic line/ but the fact that you do tells me you are already treating 
infection or cancer. Your immune system is already compromised. Don't give 
outside organisms a free ride into your body. 
Inhale it. It's safer and just as effective I'm guessing. 
T
Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 19, 2015, at 8:47 AM, Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com wrote:
 
 Dee, it seems like it would but I would not use it in an IV.   I just think 
 that is dangerous ground.  Inhalation gets into your system very effectively. 
   dunno I'm not an
 expert.  I love the CS and have used for a long time.  I have the silver 
 puppy from Ode and it is awesome.
 
 On 6/19/2015 3:00 AM, Dee wrote:
 But wouldn't it be sterile Because the silver is in it? After all, that is 
 what we all use it for ie to kill almost all known single celled 
 pathogensDee
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 19 Jun 2015, at 02:09, Theresa tmswift777...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Sterile means no microbes, bacteria are in the solution. The water we use 
 is not sterile, it's distilled. Don't know where to get sterile distilled 
 water. Then the silver is not sterile. The bottle you put it in is not 
 sterile. 
 You need a source of sterile silver solution prescribed by a physician. DO 
 NOT inject anything in your pic line not prescribed. You are playing w fire 
 and potentially exposing yourself to serious infection. 
 Using it in a neb is consider safer. The silver gets into the bloodstream 
 there without risk of systemic infection. 
 T
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 18, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Reece Maxey ozarko...@att.net wrote:
 
 Would you please explain what you mean by not sterile?
 Opa
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Jun 18, 2015, at 7:32 PM, Theresa tmswift777...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Silver we make is not sterile. There are some doctors treating Lyme 
 disease w IV silver. Need to figure out how to sterilize it or get it 
 sterile. 
 T
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 18, 2015, at 7:17 PM, Lola Harris phoenix23...@tds.net wrote:
 
 I agree with Patricia.  Inhaling and consuming the cs should be 
 effective. 
 What are you trying to do?  I don't think I have ever heard of cs being
 used by IV.  Maybe it has but I haven't read/heard about it. 
 Lola
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 19:02:49 -0400 (EDT)
 Subject: Re: CSPicc Line?
 
 I would sure want to trust who made
 it.. Know it was made with distilled water and bottle not
 contaminated from other uses. 
 
 I would not be comfortable injecting itto picc line.   I would use
 it in a nebulizer and inhale it.
 
 
 On 6/18/2015 5:50 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:
 This is a
 question posted at another group that I am in...calling on
 the smart people here.
 
   Is the
 Silver still sterile and safe to be injected into my Picc
 line? And is the remaining Silver in the bottle safe to use
 again for more IV? Hoping someone will be able to help. Thanks
 in advance.
 
 Thanks folks,
 Debbie
 


Re: CSPicc Line?

2015-06-19 Thread Dee
Hi Patricia, I do tooDee

Sent from my iPad

 On 19 Jun 2015, at 14:47, Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com wrote:
 
 Dee, it seems like it would but I would not use it in an IV.   I just think 
 that is dangerous ground.  Inhalation gets into your system very effectively. 
   dunno I'm not an
 expert.  I love the CS and have used for a long time.  I have the silver 
 puppy from Ode and it is awesome.
 
 On 6/19/2015 3:00 AM, Dee wrote:
 But wouldn't it be sterile Because the silver is in it? After all, that is 
 what we all use it for ie to kill almost all known single celled 
 pathogensDee
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 19 Jun 2015, at 02:09, Theresa tmswift777...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Sterile means no microbes, bacteria are in the solution. The water we use 
 is not sterile, it's distilled. Don't know where to get sterile distilled 
 water. Then the silver is not sterile. The bottle you put it in is not 
 sterile. 
 You need a source of sterile silver solution prescribed by a physician. DO 
 NOT inject anything in your pic line not prescribed. You are playing w fire 
 and potentially exposing yourself to serious infection. 
 Using it in a neb is consider safer. The silver gets into the bloodstream 
 there without risk of systemic infection. 
 T
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 18, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Reece Maxey ozarko...@att.net wrote:
 
 Would you please explain what you mean by not sterile?
 Opa
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Jun 18, 2015, at 7:32 PM, Theresa tmswift777...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Silver we make is not sterile. There are some doctors treating Lyme 
 disease w IV silver. Need to figure out how to sterilize it or get it 
 sterile. 
 T
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 18, 2015, at 7:17 PM, Lola Harris phoenix23...@tds.net wrote:
 
 I agree with Patricia.  Inhaling and consuming the cs should be 
 effective. 
 What are you trying to do?  I don't think I have ever heard of cs being
 used by IV.  Maybe it has but I haven't read/heard about it. 
 Lola
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 19:02:49 -0400 (EDT)
 Subject: Re: CSPicc Line?
 
 I would sure want to trust who made
 it.. Know it was made with distilled water and bottle not
 contaminated from other uses. 
 
 I would not be comfortable injecting itto picc line.   I would use
 it in a nebulizer and inhale it.
 
 
 On 6/18/2015 5:50 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:
 This is a
 question posted at another group that I am in...calling on
 the smart people here.
 
   Is the
 Silver still sterile and safe to be injected into my Picc
 line? And is the remaining Silver in the bottle safe to use
 again for more IV? Hoping someone will be able to help. Thanks
 in advance.
 
 Thanks folks,
 Debbie
 


Re: CSPicc Line?

2015-06-19 Thread Deborah Gerard
Thank-you everyone for you advice will pass it on. 


 On Friday, June 19, 2015 11:52 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:
   

 Hi Patricia, I do tooDee

Sent from my iPad
On 19 Jun 2015, at 14:47, Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com wrote:


 
Dee, it seems like it would but I would not use it in an IV.   I just think 
that is dangerous ground.  Inhalation gets into your system very effectively.   
dunno I'm not an
 expert.  I love the CS and have used for a long time.  I have the silver puppy 
from Ode and it is awesome.
 
 On 6/19/2015 3:00 AM, Dee wrote:
  
 
But wouldn't it be sterile Because the silver is in it? After all, that is what 
we all use it for ie to kill almost all known single celled pathogensDee
 
 Sent from my iPad 
 On 19 Jun 2015, at 02:09, Theresa tmswift777...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  
  
Sterile means no microbes, bacteria are in the solution. The water we use is 
not sterile, it's distilled. Don't know where to get sterile distilled water. 
Then the silver is not sterile. The bottle you put it in is not sterile.  You 
need a source of sterile silver solution prescribed by a physician. DO NOT 
inject anything in your pic line not prescribed. You are playing w fire and 
potentially exposing yourself to serious infection.  Using it in a neb is 
consider safer. The silver gets into the bloodstream there without risk of 
systemic infection.  T 
 Sent from my iPhone 
 On Jun 18, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Reece Maxey ozarko...@att.net wrote:
 
  
  
Would you please explain what you mean by not sterile? Opa
 
 Sent from my iPad 
 On Jun 18, 2015, at 7:32 PM, Theresa tmswift777...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  
  
Silver we make is not sterile. There are some doctors treating Lyme disease w 
IV silver. Need to figure out how to sterilize it or get it sterile.  T
 Sent from my iPhone 
 On Jun 18, 2015, at 7:17 PM, Lola Harris phoenix23...@tds.net wrote:
 
  
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york, times, serif;} I agree with Patricia.  Inhaling and consuming the cs 
should be effective.  What are you trying to do?  I don't think I have ever 
heard of cs being used by IV.  Maybe it has but I haven't read/heard about it. 
  Lola 
  - Original Message -
 From: Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 19:02:49 -0400 (EDT)
 Subject: Re: CSPicc Line?
  
  I would sure want to trust who made
 it.. Know it was made with distilled water and bottle not
 contaminated from other uses. 
 
  I would not be comfortable injecting itto picc line.   I would use
 it in a nebulizer and inhale it.
 
  
 On 6/18/2015 5:50 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:
  
  This is a
 question posted at another group that I am in...calling on
 the smart people here. 
    Is the
 Silver still sterile and safe to be injected into my Picc
 line? And is the remaining Silver in the bottle safe to use
 again for more IV? Hoping someone will be able to help. Thanks
 in advance. 
  Thanks folks, Debbie  
 
 
  
   
 
 

  

CSCs IV Substitute

2015-06-19 Thread Brickeyk
People must have forgotten what Brooks Bradley/Marshall posted awhile back. 
 Gatorade and CS work about as effective as an IV. Marshall posted a  
substitute for Gatorade a mixture of salt and citric acid will work as  well. 
The salt increases the solubility of silver chloride by forming a complex  
with it, and the citric acid forms silver citrate which has good solubility as  
well.
Brickey
 
 
In a message dated 6/19/2015 1:00:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
d...@deetroy.org writes:

I don't think I have ever heard of cs being
used by IV.  Maybe it has but I haven't read/heard about  it. 

Lola



CSUsing CS for A/C maintenance

2015-06-19 Thread Sam
Hello to all!Could we use CS in our split system room A/Cs, for spritzing the 
aluminum fin coils in lieu of using chemical cleaners?Thanks!Sam the newbie