Re: CS>Fwd: Any thoughts on this article

[RaVen]

Thanks Dee for your suggestions... :) 

On Sep 27, 2015, at 4:51 AM, Dee  wrote:

Give her a thousand mgs of lysine per day, this has helped people enormously , 
and I took oil of oregano as well although some people find it too hard to 
take.  I get recurring bouts when I get stressed but I have the form which has 
no lesions.  CS mixed with aloe Vera gel worked well on the lesions my friend 
hadDee

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> On 27 Sep 2015, at 04:06, RaVen  wrote:
> 
> Thanks everyone for the tips --- my mother is miserable with shingles 
> Curious does anyone understand how it comes about? I know it's a family of 
> chicken pox - some say it's from a vaccine; other says it's from too much 
> argine amino acid; stress; lyme; ..
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 10:22 PM, Dan Nave  wrote:
> 
> Yes.  Take orally and topically.  You can also use a Zapper or Godzilla 
> device for this.  If she has pox you can soften them with castor oil.
> 
> Dan
> 
>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 2:06 PM, RaVen  wrote:
>> Does CS help people who suffer from shingles?
>> My mother just got it a few days ago.
>> 
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Re: CS>Fwd: Any thoughts on this article

[PT Ferrance]

This doesn't make any sense at all.  The virus would have to survive through 
thousands of eggs/sperm through separate conceptions and many years. 
PT
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On 09/26/2015 11:06 PM, RaVen wrote:
> Thanks everyone for the tips --- my mother is miserable with
> shingles
> Curious does anyone understand how it comes about? I know
> it's a family of chicken pox - some say it's from a vaccine;
> other says it's from too much argine amino acid; stress;
> lyme; ..

Shingles is chicken pox's way
of getting past generational immunity
to pass from grandparent to grandchild.

When a child gets chicken pox,
some of the virus goes dormant in deep trunk nerves,
near the spine and sleeps for several decades.

Then, after a next generation of people has grown
and had children,
it revives in one of those deep nerves and reproduces
virus particles in all the skin nerves
that connect to that trunk nerve,
emitting virus from the lesions,
everywhere those nerves terminate
as sensory nerves in the skin.
This is why the lesions appear
strictly on one side
and also why they hurt so much.

It is very important
to quarantine yourself
when you have those painful symptoms
to keep the virus from jumping
to another generation of people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shingles

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Re: CS>Fwd: Any thoughts on this article

[John Popelish]

On 09/27/2015 02:27 PM, Dee wrote:

Besides, even if the vaccine weren't ineffective or
dangerous, you have to have it the minute the lesions show
or it doesn't work anyway.Dee


Agreed.  The vaccine is much more useful
as a preventative for shingles
than it is as a treatment for the symptoms of shingles
or the prevention of the contagion during shingles.

An open question in my mind is whether or not
an adult (who had chicken pox as a child)
gets a similar preventative effect
by being exposed to another person
who has shingles or chicken pox
as they get from the vaccine.

It seems like all three should refresh
the immune system, similarly.

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Re: CS>Fwd: Any thoughts on this article

[Deborah Gerard]

Never ever take any vaccine or advise anyone to get one unless you know what 
are in them...from what I have read there isn't anything good in them...take 
the cs and spray with dmso added to it for sure. 


 On Sunday, September 27, 2015 12:41 AM, Patricia  
wrote:
   

  Take the vaccine immediately.  If you have ever had chicken pox then the 
virus is dormant in your spine.  Different things can make it come out .. 
usually stress or illness.  I had one spot that itched like crazy ..finally 
went to doctor .. it was shingles.  Took the vaccine..and have not had any 
further outbreaks.  Taking lysine is supposed to help prevent it and help with 
outbreaks.
 Good luck to your mom.  
 
 On 9/26/2015 10:06 PM, RaVen wrote:
  
 
Thanks everyone for the tips --- my mother is miserable with shingles  
Curious does anyone understand how it comes about? I know it's a family of 
chicken pox - some say it's from a vaccine; other says it's from too much 
argine amino acid; stress; lyme; .. 
  
  
 On Sep 25, 2015, at 10:22 PM, Dan Nave  wrote:
 
   Yes.  Take orally and topically.  You can also use a Zapper or Godzilla 
device for this.  If she has pox you can soften them with castor oil. 
  Dan  
 On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 2:06 PM, RaVen  wrote:
 
Does CS help people who suffer from shingles?
 My mother just got it a few days ago.
 
 
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Re: CS>Fwd: Any thoughts on this article

[Dee]

Besides, even if the vaccine weren't ineffective or dangerous, you have to have 
it the minute the lesions show or it doesn't work anyway.Dee

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> On 27 Sep 2015, at 15:55, Deborah Gerard  wrote:
> 
> Never ever take any vaccine or advise anyone to get one unless you know what 
> are in them...from what I have read there isn't anything good in them...take 
> the cs and spray with dmso added to it for sure.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sunday, September 27, 2015 12:41 AM, Patricia  wrote:
> 
> 
> Take the vaccine immediately.  If you have ever had chicken pox then the 
> virus is dormant in your spine.  Different things can make it come out .. 
> usually stress or illness.  I had one spot that itched like crazy ..finally 
> went to doctor .. it was shingles.  Took the vaccine..and have not had any 
> further outbreaks.  Taking lysine is supposed to help prevent it and help 
> with outbreaks.
> Good luck to your mom.  
> 
>> On 9/26/2015 10:06 PM, RaVen wrote:
> 
> Thanks everyone for the tips --- my mother is miserable with shingles 
> Curious does anyone understand how it comes about? I know it's a family of 
> chicken pox - some say it's from a vaccine; other says it's from too much 
> argine amino acid; stress; lyme; ..
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 10:22 PM, Dan Nave  wrote:
> 
> Yes.  Take orally and topically.  You can also use a Zapper or Godzilla 
> device for this.  If she has pox you can soften them with castor oil.
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 2:06 PM, RaVen  wrote:
> Does CS help people who suffer from shingles?
> My mother just got it a few days ago.
> 
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Re: CS>Fwd: Any thoughts on this article

[John Popelish]

On 09/27/2015 10:21 AM, PT Ferrance wrote:

This doesn't make any sense at all.  The virus would have to
survive through thousands of eggs/sperm through separate
conceptions and many years.


Virus is just a bit of DNA code,
encapsulated in a protein coat.
It does not reproduce the way cells do.
In this case, the virus code just sits,
completely dormant inside nerve cells,
for 40 years or so,
and then triggered by something about
the ageing of those infected nerves,
that is not understood,
those nerve cells suddenly commence
replication of the virus particles.
In the interval, the virus is not alive
in the sense that replicating cells are alive.
It is just a program
that is waiting to be executed

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Re: CS>Fwd: Any thoughts on this article

[John Popelish]

On 09/27/2015 11:16 AM, PT Ferrance wrote:

Fine, and I agree with you as long as we are talking about
one person but not multiple individuals in a lineage with
generation skipping as was indicated in the prior post.


I was describing how the virus skips
a human generation by hiding in a single human,
in a way that enables a grandparent
to infect their grandchildren
with the virus.

The virus, itself goes through
no generations,
but is just bit of DNA code that sits,
waiting in one of the grandparents nerve cells.

The vaccination that is available
helps block that code from being run
in someone who has been holding that code
in one of their nerves
for 40 years or so.

If enough older people,
who had chicken pox, as a child,
could block being infectious, again,
through a shingles episode,
either by the vaccination,
or by strict quarantine,
the virus could effectively be wiped out.

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John Popelish


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Re: CS>Fwd: Any thoughts on this article

[Dee]

How very interesting and explained succinctly...I have the form where there are 
no lesions.Dee

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> On 27 Sep 2015, at 18:16, John Popelish  wrote:
> 
>> On 09/27/2015 12:56 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:
>> I still don't buy it and I usually can accept things.  But
>> this is illogical.  The piece of DNA coding sits in a
>> person's spinal nerve root for generations?  How does it get
>> from the nerve root to the sperm and eggs?  Why does it wait
>> for every other generation?  Why not manifest in the
>> generation that had the chicken pox in the first place... or
>> the parents?  Why wait for the grandparents?
>> Also, shingles can be successfully treated with Acupuncture
>> and Oriental Medicine.
> 
> Sorry that I nave not explained clearly.
> 
> When a person gets chicken pox,
> the virus inserts its DNA
> into the DNA of nerve cells,
> causing those cells to produce copies of the virus,
> that are released into the environment,
> where those nerves connect with the skin,
> at the pox lesions.
> 
> This provides an obvious contagious route
> to get the virus into other people.
> 
> But this eventually means that almost everyone
> has been exposed to the virus
> and had become immune to it,
> and the contagion does down,
> in any given human community.
> 
> This saturation process takes enough time,
> that a couple of human generations
> become immune at the same time.
> 
> If this was all there was to chicken pox,
> with its high contagion success,
> it would cause it to run out of hosts
> and go extinct in about two human generations.
> 
> But this virus has another trick up its sleeve
> to let it get around its too effective spread.
> 
> And that trick is shingles.
> 
> It produces a second contagious episode,
> after a long enough time has passed,
> that a new, non-immune generation of humans
> has arrived to host its replication.
> 
> It does this in potentially
> every person who had chicken pox.
> 
> I didn't mean to imply that shingles affects
> only alternate generations of humans.
> I was saying that the point of shingles
> is to jump over a generation of immune humans
> to infect a later generation
> that has no immunity.
> 
> Shingles is chicken pox's way
> of patiently waiting
> for a new generation
> of non-immune hosts.
> 
> This has been its survival trick
> for thousands of years.
> 
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> 
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Re: CS>Fwd: Any thoughts on this article

[PT Ferrance]

Fine, and I agree with you as long as we are talking about one person but not 
multiple individuals in a lineage with generation skipping as was indicated in 
the prior post.PT
  From: John Popelish 
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 Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 11:07 AM
 Subject: Re: CS>Fwd: Any thoughts on this article
   
On 09/27/2015 10:21 AM, PT Ferrance wrote:
> This doesn't make any sense at all.  The virus would have to
> survive through thousands of eggs/sperm through separate
> conceptions and many years.

Virus is just a bit of DNA code,
encapsulated in a protein coat.
It does not reproduce the way cells do.
In this case, the virus code just sits,
completely dormant inside nerve cells,
for 40 years or so,
and then triggered by something about
the ageing of those infected nerves,
that is not understood,
those nerve cells suddenly commence
replication of the virus particles.
In the interval, the virus is not alive
in the sense that replicating cells are alive.
It is just a program
that is waiting to be executed



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Re: CS>Fwd: Any thoughts on this article

[John Popelish]

On 09/27/2015 02:15 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:

"It produces a second contagious episode,
after a long enough time has passed,
that a new, non-immune generation of humans
has arrived to host its replication."

How does it survive through generations if it is lodged in
spinal nerve roots and has no contact with the reproductive
system?


The virus has nothing to do with human sperm or egg cells,
or getting involved in human reproduction.
It gets to infect future generations of humans,
simply by waiting for later humans to be born,
in a previously infected and still surviving human.
It uses our species multi-generational longevity
for its survival.

If humans usually died by age 25,
this trick would not work.

This option is not available
to something like small pox,
that has to continuously keep reinfecting new hosts,
in order to survive,
because it usually kills each infected host,
in turn.

Chicken pox, being much less lethal,
and being able to hibernate in infected hosts,
can wait out the birth of a new,
non-immune generation to regenerate itself
by their exposure to an old person
with shingles.


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Re: CS>Fwd: Any thoughts on this article

[Sandra George]

Pretty spot on John - Thanks

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> On Sep 27, 2015, at 11:07 AM, John Popelish  wrote:
> 
>> On 09/27/2015 10:21 AM, PT Ferrance wrote:
>> This doesn't make any sense at all.  The virus would have to
>> survive through thousands of eggs/sperm through separate
>> conceptions and many years.
> 
> Virus is just a bit of DNA code,
> encapsulated in a protein coat.
> It does not reproduce the way cells do.
> In this case, the virus code just sits,
> completely dormant inside nerve cells,
> for 40 years or so,
> and then triggered by something about
> the ageing of those infected nerves,
> that is not understood,
> those nerve cells suddenly commence
> replication of the virus particles.
> In the interval, the virus is not alive
> in the sense that replicating cells are alive.
> It is just a program
> that is waiting to be executed
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> John Popelish
> 
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Re: CS>Fwd: Any thoughts on this article

[PT Ferrance]

I still don't buy it and I usually can accept things.  But this is illogical.  
The piece of DNA coding sits in a person's spinal nerve root for generations?  
How does it get from the nerve root to the sperm and eggs?  Why does it wait 
for every other generation?  Why not manifest in the generation that had the 
chicken pox in the first place... or the parents?  Why wait for the 
grandparents? 
Also, shingles can be successfully treated with Acupuncture and Oriental 
Medicine.
PT
  From: John Popelish 
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 12:13 PM
 Subject: Re: CS>Fwd: Any thoughts on this article
   
On 09/27/2015 11:16 AM, PT Ferrance wrote:
> Fine, and I agree with you as long as we are talking about
> one person but not multiple individuals in a lineage with
> generation skipping as was indicated in the prior post.

I was describing how the virus skips
a human generation by hiding in a single human,
in a way that enables a grandparent
to infect their grandchildren
with the virus.

The virus, itself goes through
no generations,
but is just bit of DNA code that sits,
waiting in one of the grandparents nerve cells.

The vaccination that is available
helps block that code from being run
in someone who has been holding that code
in one of their nerves
for 40 years or so.

If enough older people,
who had chicken pox, as a child,
could block being infectious, again,
through a shingles episode,
either by the vaccination,
or by strict quarantine,
the virus could effectively be wiped out.



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John Popelish


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Re: CS>Fwd: Any thoughts on this article

[John Popelish]

On 09/27/2015 12:56 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:

I still don't buy it and I usually can accept things.  But
this is illogical.  The piece of DNA coding sits in a
person's spinal nerve root for generations?  How does it get
from the nerve root to the sperm and eggs?  Why does it wait
for every other generation?  Why not manifest in the
generation that had the chicken pox in the first place... or
the parents?  Why wait for the grandparents?
Also, shingles can be successfully treated with Acupuncture
and Oriental Medicine.


Sorry that I nave not explained clearly.

When a person gets chicken pox,
the virus inserts its DNA
into the DNA of nerve cells,
causing those cells to produce copies of the virus,
that are released into the environment,
where those nerves connect with the skin,
at the pox lesions.

This provides an obvious contagious route
to get the virus into other people.

But this eventually means that almost everyone
has been exposed to the virus
and had become immune to it,
and the contagion does down,
in any given human community.

This saturation process takes enough time,
that a couple of human generations
become immune at the same time.

If this was all there was to chicken pox,
with its high contagion success,
it would cause it to run out of hosts
and go extinct in about two human generations.

But this virus has another trick up its sleeve
to let it get around its too effective spread.

And that trick is shingles.

It produces a second contagious episode,
after a long enough time has passed,
that a new, non-immune generation of humans
has arrived to host its replication.

It does this in potentially
every person who had chicken pox.

I didn't mean to imply that shingles affects
only alternate generations of humans.
I was saying that the point of shingles
is to jump over a generation of immune humans
to infect a later generation
that has no immunity.

Shingles is chicken pox's way
of patiently waiting
for a new generation
of non-immune hosts.

This has been its survival trick
for thousands of years.

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John Popelish


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Re: CS>Fwd: Any thoughts on this article

[PT Ferrance]

"It produces a second contagious episode,
after a long enough time has passed,
that a new, non-immune generation of humans
has arrived to host its replication."
How does it survive through generations if it is lodged in spinal nerve roots 
and has no contact with the reproductive system?
PT
  From: John Popelish 
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 1:16 PM
 Subject: Re: CS>Fwd: Any thoughts on this article
   
On 09/27/2015 12:56 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:
> I still don't buy it and I usually can accept things.  But
> this is illogical.  The piece of DNA coding sits in a
> person's spinal nerve root for generations?  How does it get
> from the nerve root to the sperm and eggs?  Why does it wait
> for every other generation?  Why not manifest in the
> generation that had the chicken pox in the first place... or
> the parents?  Why wait for the grandparents?
> Also, shingles can be successfully treated with Acupuncture
> and Oriental Medicine.

Sorry that I nave not explained clearly.

When a person gets chicken pox,
the virus inserts its DNA
into the DNA of nerve cells,
causing those cells to produce copies of the virus,
that are released into the environment,
where those nerves connect with the skin,
at the pox lesions.

This provides an obvious contagious route
to get the virus into other people.

But this eventually means that almost everyone
has been exposed to the virus
and had become immune to it,
and the contagion does down,
in any given human community.

This saturation process takes enough time,
that a couple of human generations
become immune at the same time.

If this was all there was to chicken pox,
with its high contagion success,
it would cause it to run out of hosts
and go extinct in about two human generations.

But this virus has another trick up its sleeve
to let it get around its too effective spread.

And that trick is shingles.

It produces a second contagious episode,
after a long enough time has passed,
that a new, non-immune generation of humans
has arrived to host its replication.

It does this in potentially
every person who had chicken pox.

I didn't mean to imply that shingles affects
only alternate generations of humans.
I was saying that the point of shingles
is to jump over a generation of immune humans
to infect a later generation
that has no immunity.

Shingles is chicken pox's way
of patiently waiting
for a new generation
of non-immune hosts.

This has been its survival trick
for thousands of years.



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[John Popelish]

On 09/27/2015 02:31 PM, Dee wrote:

How very interesting and explained succinctly...

> I have the form where there are no lesions.Dee

As I understand the disease,
I think this means you are far less likely
to be dumping contagious virus particles
into your environment.
Your body is containing the replication
before it reaches your skin.

Still hurts like hell, though.

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[PT Ferrance]

I'm with you Lena.I add proline and collagen to the lysine and improve other 
things as well.PT
 From: Léna 
 To: "silver-list@eskimo.com"  
 Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 3:03 PM
 Subject: Re: CS>Fwd: Any thoughts on this article
   
Hi Deborah,I'm inclined to agree with you! Even after an horrific shingles 
experience, with a brief, but terrifying sequel of post-heretic neuralgia, I 
wouldn't get a shingles vaccine.
>From what I've read, chicken pox, a very low mortality disease, was regarded 
>as a cash cow by big pharma, and it produced a vaccine that essentially kept 
>the general populace less exposed to naturally-occurring childhood exposure to 
>the virus; creating a similar situation of native peoples' exposure to 
>European measles. A couple generations didn't get chicken pox, but now younger 
>and younger adults are getting shingles, which was once an old person's 
>disease, when compromised immunity allowed h. Zoster free reign. 
As awful as shingles is, I will manage my future with L-lysine, and do what I 
can to strengthen my immune system.
Be well,Lena

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On Sep 27, 2015, at 10:55 AM, Deborah Gerard  wrote:


Never ever take any vaccine or advise anyone to get one unless you know what 
are in them...from what I have read there isn't anything good in them...take 
the cs and spray with dmso added to it for sure. 


 On Sunday, September 27, 2015 12:41 AM, Patricia  
wrote:
   

  Take the vaccine immediately.  If you have ever had chicken pox then the 
virus is dormant in your spine.  Different things can make it come out .. 
usually stress or illness.  I had one spot that itched like crazy ..finally 
went to doctor .. it was shingles.  Took the vaccine..and have not had any 
further outbreaks.  Taking lysine is supposed to help prevent it and help with 
outbreaks.
 Good luck to your mom.  
 
 On 9/26/2015 10:06 PM, RaVen wrote:
  
 


Thanks everyone for the tips --- my mother is miserable with shingles  
Curious does anyone understand how it comes about? I know it's a family of 
chicken pox - some say it's from a vaccine; other says it's from too much 
argine amino acid; stress; lyme; .. 
  
  
 On Sep 25, 2015, at 10:22 PM, Dan Nave  wrote:
 
   Yes.  Take orally and topically.  You can also use a Zapper or Godzilla 
device for this.  If she has pox you can soften them with castor oil. 
  Dan  
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Does CS help people who suffer from shingles?
 My mother just got it a few days ago.
 
 
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Re: CS>Fwd: Any thoughts on this article

[Léna]

Hi Deborah,
I'm inclined to agree with you! Even after an horrific shingles experience, 
with a brief, but terrifying sequel of post-heretic neuralgia, I wouldn't get a 
shingles vaccine.

From what I've read, chicken pox, a very low mortality disease, was regarded as 
a cash cow by big pharma, and it produced a vaccine that essentially kept the 
general populace less exposed to naturally-occurring childhood exposure to the 
virus; creating a similar situation of native peoples' exposure to European 
measles. A couple generations didn't get chicken pox, but now younger and 
younger adults are getting shingles, which was once an old person's disease, 
when compromised immunity allowed h. Zoster free reign. 

As awful as shingles is, I will manage my future with L-lysine, and do what I 
can to strengthen my immune system.

Be well,
Lena

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On Sep 27, 2015, at 10:55 AM, Deborah Gerard  wrote:

> Never ever take any vaccine or advise anyone to get one unless you know what 
> are in them...from what I have read there isn't anything good in them...take 
> the cs and spray with dmso added to it for sure.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sunday, September 27, 2015 12:41 AM, Patricia  wrote:
> 
> 
> Take the vaccine immediately.  If you have ever had chicken pox then the 
> virus is dormant in your spine.  Different things can make it come out .. 
> usually stress or illness.  I had one spot that itched like crazy ..finally 
> went to doctor .. it was shingles.  Took the vaccine..and have not had any 
> further outbreaks.  Taking lysine is supposed to help prevent it and help 
> with outbreaks.
> Good luck to your mom.  
> 
> On 9/26/2015 10:06 PM, RaVen wrote:
> 
> Thanks everyone for the tips --- my mother is miserable with shingles 
> Curious does anyone understand how it comes about? I know it's a family of 
> chicken pox - some say it's from a vaccine; other says it's from too much 
> argine amino acid; stress; lyme; ..
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 10:22 PM, Dan Nave  wrote:
> 
> Yes.  Take orally and topically.  You can also use a Zapper or Godzilla 
> device for this.  If she has pox you can soften them with castor oil.
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 2:06 PM, RaVen  wrote:
> Does CS help people who suffer from shingles?
> My mother just got it a few days ago.
> 
> 
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Re: CS>Fwd: Any thoughts on this article

[Jess]

PT whats proline for? Jess




> On Sep 27, 2015, at 12:59 PM, PT Ferrance  wrote:
> 
> I'm with you Lena.
> I add proline and collagen to the lysine and improve other things as well.
> PT
> From: Léna 
> To: "silver-list@eskimo.com"  
> Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 3:03 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>Fwd: Any thoughts on this article
> 
> Hi Deborah,
> I'm inclined to agree with you! Even after an horrific shingles experience, 
> with a brief, but terrifying sequel of post-heretic neuralgia, I wouldn't get 
> a shingles vaccine.
> 
> From what I've read, chicken pox, a very low mortality disease, was regarded 
> as a cash cow by big pharma, and it produced a vaccine that essentially kept 
> the general populace less exposed to naturally-occurring childhood exposure 
> to the virus; creating a similar situation of native peoples' exposure to 
> European measles. A couple generations didn't get chicken pox, but now 
> younger and younger adults are getting shingles, which was once an old 
> person's disease, when compromised immunity allowed h. Zoster free reign. 
> 
> As awful as shingles is, I will manage my future with L-lysine, and do what I 
> can to strengthen my immune system.
> 
> Be well,
> Lena
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Sep 27, 2015, at 10:55 AM, Deborah Gerard  wrote:
>> 
>> Never ever take any vaccine or advise anyone to get one unless you know what 
>> are in them...from what I have read there isn't anything good in them...take 
>> the cs and spray with dmso added to it for sure.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sunday, September 27, 2015 12:41 AM, Patricia  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Take the vaccine immediately.  If you have ever had chicken pox then the 
>> virus is dormant in your spine.  Different things can make it come out .. 
>> usually stress or illness.  I had one spot that itched like crazy ..finally 
>> went to doctor .. it was shingles.  Took the vaccine..and have not had any 
>> further outbreaks.  Taking lysine is supposed to help prevent it and help 
>> with outbreaks.
>> Good luck to your mom.  
>> 
>>> On 9/26/2015 10:06 PM, RaVen wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks everyone for the tips --- my mother is miserable with shingles 
>> Curious does anyone understand how it comes about? I know it's a family of 
>> chicken pox - some say it's from a vaccine; other says it's from too much 
>> argine amino acid; stress; lyme; ..
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 10:22 PM, Dan Nave  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes.  Take orally and topically.  You can also use a Zapper or Godzilla 
>> device for this.  If she has pox you can soften them with castor oil.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 2:06 PM, RaVen  wrote:
>> Does CS help people who suffer from shingles?
>> My mother just got it a few days ago.
>> 
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Re: CS>Fwd: Any thoughts on this article

[mgperrault]

I would immediately take lysine and vitamin C and look into zapping, 
either Bob Beck or Hulda Clark. Sooner the better!   You wont cure post 
herpetic neuralgia in my experience.  Research about vaccines because 
they can cause a stronger outbreak in older people.   Aspirin may be 
counterindicated because of viral shedding.   Lemon balm/ melissa 
officinalis is one herb.  Chaparral another.   Do it all, and quickly



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My mother just got it a few days ago.


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Re: CS>Fwd: Any thoughts on this article

[Dee]

Give her a thousand mgs of lysine per day, this has helped people enormously , 
and I took oil of oregano as well although some people find it too hard to 
take.  I get recurring bouts when I get stressed but I have the form which has 
no lesions.  CS mixed with aloe Vera gel worked well on the lesions my friend 
hadDee

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> On 27 Sep 2015, at 04:06, RaVen  wrote:
> 
> Thanks everyone for the tips --- my mother is miserable with shingles 
> Curious does anyone understand how it comes about? I know it's a family of 
> chicken pox - some say it's from a vaccine; other says it's from too much 
> argine amino acid; stress; lyme; ..
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 10:22 PM, Dan Nave  wrote:
> 
> Yes.  Take orally and topically.  You can also use a Zapper or Godzilla 
> device for this.  If she has pox you can soften them with castor oil.
> 
> Dan
> 
>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 2:06 PM, RaVen  wrote:
>> Does CS help people who suffer from shingles?
>> My mother just got it a few days ago.
>> 
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