Re: CSChemistry Tutorials

2012-05-11 Thread Kirsteen Wright
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 2:45 AM, Mike Monett mrmon...@pstca.com wrote:



 Anyone interested in learning chemistry will quickly find out about the
 10-second rule. If you drop something sterile, and can pick it up in 10
 seconds, you may consider it is still sterile.


Hmmm article arguing against it here

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1352440/5-second-rule-myth-Food-poisoning-caused-picked-immediately.html

and even more here

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2138777/The-second-rule-fact-fiction-Scientists-reveal-food-dropped-floor-safe-eat.html

Cheers
Kirsteen


Re: CSChemistry Tutorials

2012-05-11 Thread Mike Monett
Kirsteen Wright kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com wrote:

On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 2:45 AM, Mike Monett mrmon...@pstca.com wrote:

 Anyone interested in learning chemistry will quickly find out about the
 10-second rule. If you drop something sterile, and can pick it up in 10
 seconds, you may consider it is still sterile.

Hmmm article arguing against it here

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1352440/5-second-rule-myth-Food-poisoning-caused-picked-immediately.html

and even more here

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2138777/The-second-rule-fact-fiction-Scientists-reveal-food-dropped-floor-safe-eat.html

Cheers
Kirsteen

Kirsteen, of course it is a myth! You can't drop food on the floor and
expect it to remain sterile.

The place I have seen it used is while taking a rack of sterilized beakers
from a hot autoclave. One fell on the floor. The professor said 10-second
rule and picked it up and put it back in the rack.

I would have put it back with the unsterilized beakers instead. why take
chances?

Thanks,

Mike Monett


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Re: CSChemistry Tutorials

2012-05-11 Thread Jane MacRoss


I wish I could say the same of the surgeons!!

Jane



Kirsteen, of course it is a myth! You can't drop food on the floor and
expect it to remain sterile.

The place I have seen it used is while taking a rack of sterilized beakers
from a hot autoclave. One fell on the floor. The professor said 10-second
rule and picked it up and put it back in the rack.

I would have put it back with the unsterilized beakers instead. why take
chances?



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CSChemistry Tutorials

2012-05-10 Thread Mike Monett
   Hey mike,  you  mentioned online  chemistry  tutorials.  Could you
   point me  to  any   specific   programs?   Learning  about  CS has
   re-kindled my interests!

   Thanks for your help, P.

  I post this since others may be interested.

  There are zillions of excellent online chemistry tutorials.  Far too
  many to list here.

  The trick  is  to search google and click  on  something  that looks
  interesting. Save the url so you can go back later.

  If the discussion seems a bit advanced and over your head, go  on to
  the next one.

  But keep the url in case you want to view it again. You will quickly
  reach the point where the easy ones no longer have anything to teach
  and you need something stronger to work with.

  Don't get  bogged down in the advanced stuff unless  you  are really
  interested and plan on changing careers.

  But if you are an electronics technician now, and you would  like to
  expand your career opportunities, there is very little you  could do
  better than to learn basic chemistry.

  The biomedical fields are expanding like crazy, and it  is difficult
  to find anyone who understands electronics and know even a bit about
  chemistry. You  could have leprosy and ten thumbs on each  hand, but
  if you  can understand a simple chemistry equation and  know  how to
  keep from  knocking over Bunsen burners, they will welcome  you with
  open arms.

  The things  you  want to focus on at the start are  how  to  read an
  equation, then how to balance them.

  When you  find  yourself hitting a rough spot and  nothing  seems to
  make sense, find another tutorial that discusses the same  topic and
  try it.

  Often just  a slight change in the wording can  suddenly  unlock the
  secret and it all becomes clear.

  You will  find yourself advancing very rapidly. The  basic  stuff is
  just learning  the symbols for the common  elements,  like Hydrogen,
  Oxygen, Silver,  Sulfur, and so on. Then learn the  normal oxidation
  states, such  as +1 for Sodium, Silver, etc, +2 for Copper,  etc, -1
  for Chlorine, etc, then the weird ones like Oxygen, Sulfur,  and the
  others that can have several states. But just learn what you need to
  know at the moment. The rest will come later.

  The more  you learn, the easier it is to learn more. This is  a very
  enjoyable positive  feedback  loop. You will  quickly  find yourself
  working with  stuff  that  was incomprehensible  just  a  short time
  before.

  So rather  than give you a huge list of sites,  just  start anywhere
  and go up or down in difficulty as you feel the need.

  Again, don't get bogged down wasting time on incomprehensible topics
  or sites  that  don't explain things clearly. Bypass  them  and find
  another one  that is better suited to your liking. Keep  moving, and
  you will soon hit paydirt.

  Here is a typical one to get you started:

  http://chemistry.about.com/cs/stoichiometry/a/aa042903a.htm

  Thanks,

  Mike Monett


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Re: CSChemistry Tutorials

2012-05-10 Thread Mike Monett
Mike Monett mrmon...@pstca.com wrote:

   Hey mike,  you  mentioned online  chemistry  tutorials.  Could you
   point me  to  any   specific   programs?   Learning  about  CS has
   re-kindled my interests!

   Thanks for your help, P.

Anyone interested in learning chemistry will quickly find out about the
10-second rule. If you drop something sterile, and can pick it up in 10
seconds, you may consider it is still sterile.

Here is another interpretation.

http://cdn.svcs.c2.uclick.com/c2/cea1926073ef012f2fdd00163e41dd5b

Thanks,

Mike Monett


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Re: CSChemistry Tutorials

2012-05-10 Thread Jane MacRoss
Hmmph the surgeons used to do that in OR when I was a student - now it 
doesn't matter they give you anti-biotics routinely anyway


Jane



Anyone interested in learning chemistry will quickly find out about the
10-second rule. If you drop something sterile, and can pick it up in 10
seconds, you may consider it is still sterile.

Here is another interpretation.

http://cdn.svcs.c2.uclick.com/c2/cea1926073ef012f2fdd00163e41dd5b

Thanks,

Mike Monett



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