Re: CSblack salve, value, Values
I don't send as a gift or reduced value unless a customer requests it..your story, your risk of seizure...about the only power that customs has if the *goods* are legal. You recon the UK is gonna hunt me down across the pond for trafficking in legal goods? First, they have to prove it isn't a gift or what the customer actually paid. Appearances of the package are designed to not attract attention, nothing illegal about that. The declared value doesn't cost me a cent. ode At 06:29 AM 12/6/2010 -0800, you wrote: Ode may still getaway with shipping a product overseas boxed like a gift to fool the inspectors But it is illegal I will not risk my business for a $15.00 order, or a $1000.00 order. The law is the law, I didn't make the law, but I follow it just because. Nuff Said ! Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, December 6, 2010 5:43:16 AM Subject: Re: CSblack salve, value, Values Thank you for your reply Malcolm, it is easy to over-react to things when they appear to hit on sensitive areas, so I apologise for that. dee On 5 Dec 2010, at 19:08, Malcolm wrote: Hi Dee, I meant no offense to you. I think Everything is expensive and getting more so. g Looks like Ode has the answer for you re: shipping. Also, I get it that you don't want to be stuck with some scammer's new and improved Magic Fairy Dust. My point was that price is no longer a valid way to judge quality, if ever it was. Take care, Malcolm On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 12:29 +, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.orghttp://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.htmlhttp://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSblack salve, value, Values
Ode's USA packages are designed not to attract attention either. LOL ... ie he doesn't write all over them with a company name. Simple package, inexpensive shipping, and damn if it didn't get here quickly, intact and perfect! Jaxi On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 4:08 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net wrote: I don't send as a gift or reduced value unless a customer requests it..your story, your risk of seizure...about the only power that customs has if the *goods* are legal. You recon the UK is gonna hunt me down across the pond for trafficking in legal goods? First, they have to prove it isn't a gift or what the customer actually paid. Appearances of the package are designed to not attract attention, nothing illegal about that. The declared value doesn't cost me a cent. ode At 06:29 AM 12/6/2010 -0800, you wrote: Ode may still getaway with shipping a product overseas boxed like a gift to fool the inspectors But it is illegal I will not risk my business for a $15.00 order, or a $1000.00 order. The law is the law, I didn't make the law, but I follow it just because. Nuff Said ! Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, December 6, 2010 5:43:16 AM Subject: Re: CSblack salve, value, Values Thank you for your reply Malcolm, it is easy to over-react to things when they appear to hit on sensitive areas, so I apologise for that. dee On 5 Dec 2010, at 19:08, Malcolm wrote: Hi Dee, I meant no offense to you. I think Everything is expensive and getting more so. g Looks like Ode has the answer for you re: shipping. Also, I get it that you don't want to be stuck with some scammer's new and improved Magic Fairy Dust. My point was that price is no longer a valid way to judge quality, if ever it was. Take care, Malcolm On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 12:29 +, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Thank you for your reply Malcolm, it is easy to over-react to things when they appear to hit on sensitive areas, so I apologise for that. dee On 5 Dec 2010, at 19:08, Malcolm wrote: Hi Dee, I meant no offense to you. I think Everything is expensive and getting more so. g Looks like Ode has the answer for you re: shipping. Also, I get it that you don't want to be stuck with some scammer's new and improved Magic Fairy Dust. My point was that price is no longer a valid way to judge quality, if ever it was. Take care, Malcolm On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 12:29 +, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Rip-off -Britain again, eh Kirsteen? They have to get you one way or the other don't they? God forbid we can get stuff cheaper from abroad--just make the postage and then VAT so high that we can't! Then we're stuck with the over-priced stuff we can buy here! Lucky us! dee On 5 Dec 2010, at 19:39, Kirsteen Wright wrote: On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote: All well and good, providing you have the money to do this. I have - on occasion - been about to order a product which cost say$12 and when the shipping charge became apparent it jumped the cost up by $50! I know where you're coming from Dee. It also really annoys me that if I budget for something and go ahead and buy it, when it gets into this country, if it's over $28 INCLUDING shipping, I'm charged tax on it. Now the tax is one thing, it may only be a few dollars but my Post Office charges me a minimum of $15 handling charge on top of that before I can pick up the item. cheers Kirsteen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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It would be a priority if I had cancer but fortunately at the moment - I don't. When you don't know people's circumstances don't take it on yourself to judge them. You never know when your own circumstances might change. dee I've had my container for over 5 years and it's mostly full. Used it for two cancers on the skin. Geez, $50 to get rid of CANCER! Where in the world are your priorities??? Chuck Marriage changes passion...suddenly you're in bed with a relative! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Ode may still getaway with shipping a product overseas boxed like a gift to fool the inspectors But it is illegal I will not risk my business for a $15.00 order, or a $1000.00 order. The law is the law, I didn't make the law, but I follow it just because. Nuff Said !Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, December 6, 2010 5:43:16 AM Subject: Re: CSblack salve, value, Values Thank you for your reply Malcolm, it is easy to over-react to things when they appear to hit on sensitive areas, so I apologise for that. dee On 5 Dec 2010, at 19:08, Malcolm wrote: Hi Dee, I meant no offense to you. I think Everything is expensive and getting more so. g Looks like Ode has the answer for you re: shipping. Also, I get it that you don't want to be stuck with some scammer's new and improved Magic Fairy Dust. My point was that price is no longer a valid way to judge quality, if ever it was. Take care, Malcolm On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 12:29 +, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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So you don't think that $69 is expensive for a tub of around an ounce or so? I was just asking the very thing that you have mentioned i.e. is there any really special process it has to go through to justify such an expense--that's all. I believe Tel's product is nowhere near as expensive as this from his reply--but the postage would be prohibitive from him as - he kindly informed - me which is why I have been looking at other sites. dee On 4 Dec 2010, at 18:25, Malcolm wrote: Well, look at the other side. If it were easy, you could go down to the local pharmacy and buy it in a tube or bottle, or the thousands of tubes or bottles. Here's someone who's put a great deal of time and effort into learning how to do something of high value, and do it well. They know you probably won't need much of it to do what you need to do, and they know there is expense and time in getting the right ingredients at the right time and the right condition, and combining them correctly. They want to make a living for doing something worthwhile. Now, from your point of view; Why should you look to those competing in the race to the bottom line, rather than those doing something well??? You're not rich?? Well, I'll betcha neither is Tel. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Dee, from what I remember of alpha/omega labs video on making black salve, it's not so much that it's cost of ingredients--or even time to make--but that you can't just buy some of the ingredients (in their BS anyway) in small amounts. You have to buy one or two in large amounts. Because it keeps they made big batches. It pretty much sounded like you'd also have to do that at home--so that you'd have a LOT of BS around, and would therefore need to sell it because you'd never in your life use it up. In fact, that's why the containers are so small--you need so little. With their BS (don't know about Ted's) you only put it on twice, to any cancer spot. Therefore, how much would a person ever need? If you are trying to justify the pricing, look at it as a one time purchase. Buy it once and you never have to buy it again. Of course you can look around and find cheaper companies--but you have to buy from someone you trust, because anyone can slap together a salve and call it black salve cancer killer. Doesn't mean it IS that. In fact, there was a company that started selling BS as though they were alpha/omega lab salve, and their salve didn't work. Who knows how many people may have died of skin and other cancers because they purchased this 'fake' BS? Buy from someone you trust, or make your own. Making your own might be cheaper--but once you have to buy x number of ingredients to make yours, it may wind up being cheaper in the end to just buy from a trusted supplier. Only you can decide after a search on the cost of the ingredients for making your own. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- So you don't think that $69 is expensive for a tub of around an ounce or so? I was just asking the very thing that you have mentioned i.e. is there any really special process it has to go through to justify such an expense--that s all.
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Excuse me Dee for jumping into your business, however if you think that Tel's product may work with and for you, why in God's name are you hung up on the cost of getting it - you pay Tel for the shipping to England or buy a carrier pigeon This is what fascinates me about humans, as my mother used to say, penny wise pound foolish - cheers and have a wonderful day Regards Sandee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Thanks Renee. dee On 5 Dec 2010, at 14:54, Renee wrote: Dee, from what I remember of alpha/omega labs video on making black salve, it's not so much that it's cost of ingredients--or even time to make--but that you can't just buy some of the ingredients (in their BS anyway) in small amounts. You have to buy one or two in large amounts. Because it keeps they made big batches. It pretty much sounded like you'd also have to do that at home--so that you'd have a LOT of BS around, and would therefore need to sell it because you'd never in your life use it up. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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All well and good, providing you have the money to do this. I have - on occasion - been about to order a product which cost say$12 and when the shipping charge became apparent it jumped the cost up by $50! As Tel himself doesn't actually know how much it could cost, then I'm afraid I don't have the resources to do this. Simple. As I don't actually need the salve at the moment and am only conducting an exercise just in case I should - then the point is moot. Not everyone who looks at the cost of things is penny pinching either - some are just plain poor. dee On 5 Dec 2010, at 15:16, Sandee George wrote: Excuse me Dee for jumping into your business, however if you think that Tel's product may work with and for you, why in God's name are you hung up on the cost of getting it - you pay Tel for the shipping to England or buy a carrier pigeon This is what fascinates me about humans, as my mother used to say, penny wise pound foolish - cheers and have a wonderful day Regards Sandee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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A small tub of salve could ship with Priority Mail for $4.95. Pretty cheap. I make psoriasis salve, remedies for burns, and lush body butters that ship for that amount. Remember the ads, If it fits, it ships/ You can fit a lot into one of their boxes. The last thing I want is to ship UPS - I shipped three boxed of household goods to a friend of a friend who was burned out and lost everything. Cost me as much as the goods were worth. Gayla - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 10:30 AM Subject: Re: CSblack salve, value, Values All well and good, providing you have the money to do this. I have - on occasion - been about to order a product which cost say$12 and when the shipping charge became apparent it jumped the cost up by $50! As Tel himself doesn't actually know how much it could cost, then I'm afraid I don't have the resources to do this. Simple. As I don't actually need the salve at the moment and am only conducting an exercise just in case I should - then the point is moot. Not everyone who looks at the cost of things is penny pinching either - some are just plain poor. dee On 5 Dec 2010, at 15:16, Sandee George wrote: Excuse me Dee for jumping into your business, however if you think that Tel's product may work with and for you, why in God's name are you hung up on the cost of getting it - you pay Tel for the shipping to England or buy a carrier pigeon This is what fascinates me about humans, as my mother used to say, penny wise pound foolish - cheers and have a wonderful day Regards Sandee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Dee, I meant no offense to you. I think Everything is expensive and getting more so. g Looks like Ode has the answer for you re: shipping. Also, I get it that you don't want to be stuck with some scammer's new and improved Magic Fairy Dust. My point was that price is no longer a valid way to judge quality, if ever it was. Take care, Malcolm On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 12:29 +, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: So you don't think that $69 is expensive for a tub of around an ounce or so? I was just asking the very thing that you have mentioned i.e. is there any really special process it has to go through to justify such an expense--that's all. I believe Tel's product is nowhere near as expensive as this from his reply--but the postage would be prohibitive from him as - he kindly informed - me which is why I have been looking at other sites. dee On 4 Dec 2010, at 18:25, Malcolm wrote: Well, look at the other side. If it were easy, you could go down to the local pharmacy and buy it in a tube or bottle, or the thousands of tubes or bottles. Here's someone who's put a great deal of time and effort into learning how to do something of high value, and do it well. They know you probably won't need much of it to do what you need to do, and they know there is expense and time in getting the right ingredients at the right time and the right condition, and combining them correctly. They want to make a living for doing something worthwhile. Now, from your point of view; Why should you look to those competing in the race to the bottom line, rather than those doing something well??? You're not rich?? Well, I'll betcha neither is Tel. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSblack salve, value, Values
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote: All well and good, providing you have the money to do this. I have - on occasion - been about to order a product which cost say$12 and when the shipping charge became apparent it jumped the cost up by $50! I know where you're coming from Dee. It also really annoys me that if I budget for something and go ahead and buy it, when it gets into this country, if it's over $28 INCLUDING shipping, I'm charged tax on it. Now the tax is one thing, it may only be a few dollars but my Post Office charges me a minimum of $15 handling charge on top of that before I can pick up the item. cheers Kirsteen
Re: CSblack salve, value, Values
May I suggest that you look for friends (or friends of friends) who are coming over , who may be willing to pick it up here and bring it over. This might work out ok if you are in no great hurry. Regards hg Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: All well and good, providing you have the money to do this. I have - on occasion - been about to order a product which cost say$12 and when the shipping charge became apparent it jumped the cost up by $50! As Tel himself doesn't actually know how much it could cost, then I'm afraid I don't have the resources to do this. Simple. As I don't actually need the salve at the moment and am only conducting an exercise just in case I should - then the point is moot. Not everyone who looks at the cost of things is penny pinching either - some are just plain poor. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Renee's right! I've had my container for over 5 years and it's mostly full. Used it for two cancers on the skin. Geez, $50 to get rid of CANCER! Where in the world are your priorities??? Chuck Marriage changes passion...suddenly you're in bed with a relative! On 12/5/2010 9:54:16 AM, Renee (gaiac...@gmail.com) wrote: Dee, from what I remember of alpha/omega labs video on making black salve, it's not so much that it's cost of ingredients--or even time to make--but that you can't just buy some of the ingredients (in their BS anyway) in small amounts. You have to buy one or two in large amounts. Because it keeps they made big batches. It pretty much sounded like you'd also have to do that at home--so that you'd have a LOT of BS around, and would therefore need to sell it because you'd never in your life use it up. In fact, that's why the containers are so small--you need so little. With their BS (don't know about Ted's) you only put it on twice, to any cancer spot. Therefore, how much would a person ever need? If you are trying to justify the pricing, look at it as a one time purchase. Buy it once and you never have to buy it again. Of course you can look around and find cheaper companies--but you have to buy from someone you trust, because anyone can slap together a salve and call it black salve cancer killer. Doesn't mean it IS that. In fact, there was a company that started selling BS as though they were alpha/omega lab salve, and their salve didn't work. Who knows how many people may have died of skin and other cancers -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSblack salve, value, Values
Well, look at the other side. If it were easy, you could go down to the local pharmacy and buy it in a tube or bottle, or the thousands of tubes or bottles. Here's someone who's put a great deal of time and effort into learning how to do something of high value, and do it well. They know you probably won't need much of it to do what you need to do, and they know there is expense and time in getting the right ingredients at the right time and the right condition, and combining them correctly. They want to make a living for doing something worthwhile. Now, from your point of view; Why should you look to those competing in the race to the bottom line, rather than those doing something well??? You're not rich?? Well, I'll betcha neither is Tel. On Sat, 2010-12-04 at 17:44 +, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: I have looked at a few sites for this product and think its extraordinarily expensive. I know people say your health is worth every penny, but just wondered why this product should be so expensive. Is there a special way of processing the herbs or something? Just curious. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Over in Queensland, Australia, apparently, the local cockies (farmers), if they get skin cancer, just apply Cansema. As I understand it, whatever brand it is they just call it Cansema, like the Brits call a vacuum cleaner a Hoover. Queenslander Bevan Potter, who had failed skin cancer surgery on his face, got results with Cansema and when the original maker went to prison, he kept the faith by making it up and selling it and other herbs on a website he put up, Centreforce. Well, I heard that a pharmacy - in Brisbane, I think - is also making up a cancer salve, but are charging three or four hundred dollars, whereas Brendan is selling it for, from memory, fifty or sixty, or maybe less. I got mine from a Vet in Perth, Western Australia, but it was made by Centreforce. We've used it successfully for five years. It dried out, but is effective still. R Well, look at the other side. If it were easy, you could go down to the local pharmacy and buy it in a tube or bottle, or the thousands of tubes or bottles. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
