[Fwd: Re: CS LEDs arthritis: COMMENT]

2008-05-01 Thread Marshall Dudley

Someone asked to forward Brooks' comments on LEDs.

Marshall
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I would remind list members that if one is investigating the use of LED bulbs/arrays for
 circulation improvement and/or topical pathogen controlwe have found that the red spectrum elements in the 660 to 680 nanometer range are MUCH superior those in other ranges.  They do not cost any more than other colored...or clear bulbs.but are immensely more effective at circulation improvement.  At least that has been our experience.
Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley. 


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 Subject : Re: CS LEDs  arthritis
 Date : Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:25:52 -0600
 From : Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
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Now this sounds like a great idea.  Did you just shine the flashlight 
at your shoulder for awhile?  And is there a link somewhere to link to 
for more info in using LED's ?


On Nov 19, 2007, at 9:17 AM, Dave wrote:

>
>Linda
>  Brooks Bradly had a number of postings on making and using LED arrays 
> for that purpose.
>  One day I caught an infomercial on TV that was selling a flexible 
> array that you could wrap around the affected area but they wanted 
> something like $100+ for it so I soon forgot the whole idea.
>   
>  One day while getting groceries at br I noticed a flashlight that 
> had 31 LEDs on the side of it to use as a flood light and 6 on the end 
> of it to use as a flashlight. At $29 I figured I could give it a try. 
> I used it on my sore shoulders one evening and got a good night's 
> sleep for the first time in months.
>  Dave


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Re: CS LEDs arthritis: COMMENT

2007-11-21 Thread Brooks Bradley
I would remind list members that if one is investigating the use of LED bulbs/arrays for
 circulation improvement and/or topical pathogen controlwe have found that the red spectrum elements in the 660 to 680 nanometer range are MUCH superior those in other ranges.  They do not cost any more than other colored...or clear bulbs.but are immensely more effective at circulation improvement.  At least that has been our experience.
Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley. 


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 Subject : Re: CS LEDs  arthritis
 Date : Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:25:52 -0600
 From : Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
 To : silver-list@eskimo.com

Now this sounds like a great idea.  Did you just shine the flashlight 
at your shoulder for awhile?  And is there a link somewhere to link to 
for more info in using LED's ?


On Nov 19, 2007, at 9:17 AM, Dave wrote:

>
>Linda
>  Brooks Bradly had a number of postings on making and using LED arrays 
> for that purpose.
>  One day I caught an infomercial on TV that was selling a flexible 
> array that you could wrap around the affected area but they wanted 
> something like $100+ for it so I soon forgot the whole idea.
>   
>  One day while getting groceries at br I noticed a flashlight that 
> had 31 LEDs on the side of it to use as a flood light and 6 on the end 
> of it to use as a flashlight. At $29 I figured I could give it a try. 
> I used it on my sore shoulders one evening and got a good night's 
> sleep for the first time in months.
>  Dave


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Re: CS LEDs arthritis: COMMENT

2007-11-21 Thread kayedoe
Interesting thread.

I picked up something similar to the flashlight you described at
Murray's auto parts store, about a year ago. It has RED LED's in rows
along the length of the flashlight and can be made to pulse (on/off)
or run in constant mode. It also has powerful magnets on the lamp end
so it can be set on the top of the car for a trouble beacon. I think
it was only 19.00.

Last year at Christmas time when family was over, my granddaughter
picked up some foam painting pads I had by my computer. I immediately
said put that down those are for a medical device I want to put
together.

Well, probably don't have to tell you everyone burst out
laughing...LOL My oldest daughter said Oh come on now mom you got
to be kidding! She thought I was being ridiculous. Naturally I replied
NO, I'm not kidding, with a straight face and began to educate her.

She wasn't interested, but some day she may be :o)

Geeze, now my flashlight will fall into the don't touch category. How funny!

Mary

 On Nov 19, 2007, at 9:17 AM, Dave wrote:
One day while getting groceries at br I noticed a flashlight that had
31 LEDs on the side of it to use as a flood light and 6 on the end of
it to use as a flashlight. At $29 I figured I could give it a try. I
used it on my sore shoulders one evening and got a good night's  sleep
for the first time in months.

  Dave



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Re: CS LEDs arthritis: COMMENT

2007-11-21 Thread Marshall Dudley

Brooks Bradley wrote:
I would remind list members that if one is investigating the use of 
LED bulbs/arrays for
circulation improvement and/or topical pathogen controlwe have 
found that the red spectrum elements in the 660 to 680 nanometer range 
are MUCH superior those in other ranges. They do not cost any more 
than other colored...or clear bulbs.but are immensely more 
effective at circulation improvement. At least that has been our 
experience.

Sincerely, Brooks Bradley.


That is correct. Which left me wondering how much red there is in a 
white LED. This seems to answer that:


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/48/White_LED.png

Apparently not a lot.  I believe that much of the reason that the red 
works so much better than the other colors is that the shorter 
wavelengths are absorbed before they get much penetration.  If you shine 
a white light on your hand, what you see coming through will be red.


Marshall








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*Subject : *Re: CS LEDs  arthritis

*Date : *Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:25:52 -0600

*From : *Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com

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Now this sounds like a great idea. Did you just shine the flashlight

at your shoulder for awhile? And is there a link somewhere to link to

for more info in using LED's ?





On Nov 19, 2007, at 9:17 AM, Dave wrote:




 Linda

 Brooks Bradly had a number of postings on making and using LED
arrays

 for that purpose.

 One day I caught an infomercial on TV that was selling a flexible

 array that you could wrap around the affected area but they wanted

 something like $100+ for it so I soon forgot the whole idea.



 One day while getting groceries at br I noticed a flashlight that

 had 31 LEDs on the side of it to use as a flood light and 6 on
the end

 of it to use as a flashlight. At $29 I figured I could give it a
try.

 I used it on my sore shoulders one evening and got a good night's
 sleep for the first time in months.

 Dave





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Re: CS LEDs arthritis: COMMENT

2007-11-21 Thread scl...@netzero.net
I have heard blue in the 400-500nm range is effective for acne and other skin 
issues. A famous laser company is selling a 405nm laser specifically for acne 
treatment. I'm wondering if red is just as good?
Steve

-- Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:
Brooks Bradley wrote:
 I would remind list members that if one is investigating the use of 
 LED bulbs/arrays for
 circulation improvement and/or topical pathogen controlwe have 
 found that the red spectrum elements in the 660 to 680 nanometer range 
 are MUCH superior those in other ranges. They do not cost any more 
 than other colored...or clear bulbs.but are immensely more 
 effective at circulation improvement. At least that has been our 
 experience.
 Sincerely, Brooks Bradley.

That is correct. Which left me wondering how much red there is in a 
white LED. This seems to answer that:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/48/White_LED.png

Apparently not a lot.  I believe that much of the reason that the red 
works so much better than the other colors is that the shorter 
wavelengths are absorbed before they get much penetration.  If you shine 
a white light on your hand, what you see coming through will be red.

Marshall







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 *Subject : *Re: CS LEDs  arthritis

 *Date : *Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:25:52 -0600

 *From : *Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com

 *To : *silver-l...@eskimo.com



 Now this sounds like a great idea. Did you just shine the flashlight

 at your shoulder for awhile? And is there a link somewhere to link to

 for more info in using LED's ?





 On Nov 19, 2007, at 9:17 AM, Dave wrote:



 
  Linda

  Brooks Bradly had a number of postings on making and using LED
 arrays

  for that purpose.

  One day I caught an infomercial on TV that was selling a flexible

  array that you could wrap around the affected area but they wanted

  something like $100+ for it so I soon forgot the whole idea.

 

  One day while getting groceries at br I noticed a flashlight that

  had 31 LEDs on the side of it to use as a flood light and 6 on
 the end

  of it to use as a flashlight. At $29 I figured I could give it a
 try.

  I used it on my sore shoulders one evening and got a good night's
  sleep for the first time in months.

  Dave





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Re: CS LEDs arthritis: COMMENT

2007-11-21 Thread Clayton Family
Thanks for the clarification.   This makes me think of my grandma using 
infrared for her arthritic hands, so she could quilt.  I am looking up 
the LED s.  --Kathryn


On Nov 21, 2007, at 11:28 AM, Brooks Bradley wrote:

 I would remind list members that if one is investigating the use of 
LED bulbs/arrays for
 circulation improvement and/or topical pathogen controlwe have 
found that the red spectrum elements in the 660 to 680 nanometer range 
are MUCH superior those in other ranges. They do not cost any more 
than other colored...or clear bulbs.but are immensely more 
effective at circulation improvement. At least that has been our 
experience.

 Sincerely, Brooks Bradley.



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Re: CS LEDs arthritis: COMMENT

2007-11-21 Thread Clayton Family


On Nov 21, 2007, at 2:28 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote:


Brooks Bradley wrote:
I would remind list members that if one is investigating the use of 
LED bulbs/arrays for
circulation improvement and/or topical pathogen controlwe have 
found that the red spectrum elements in the 660 to 680 nanometer 
range are MUCH superior those in other ranges. They do not cost any 
more than other colored...or clear bulbs.but are immensely more 
effective at circulation improvement. At least that has been our 
experience.

Sincerely, Brooks Bradley.


That is correct. Which left me wondering how much red there is in a 
white LED. This seems to answer that:


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/48/White_LED.png

Apparently not a lot.  I believe that much of the reason that the red 
works so much better than the other colors is that the shorter 
wavelengths are absorbed before they get much penetration.  If you 
shine a white light on your hand, what you see coming through will be 
red.


Marshall



I looked at the graph, and was not sure how to interpret it.   There 
was a spike in the graph between 500 and 600nm.


But when I was a kid, I thought the flashlight was red because I have 
red blood!   LOL  --Kathryn



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Re: CS LEDs arthritis

2007-11-19 Thread Clayton Family
Now this sounds like a great idea.  Did you just shine the flashlight 
at your shoulder for awhile?  And is there a link somewhere to link to 
for more info in using LED's ?



On Nov 19, 2007, at 9:17 AM, Dave wrote:



   Linda
 Brooks Bradly had a number of postings on making and using LED arrays 
for that purpose.
 One day I caught an infomercial on TV that was selling a flexible 
array that you could wrap around the affected area but they wanted 
something like $100+ for it so I soon forgot the whole idea.

  
 One day while getting groceries at Costco I noticed a flashlight that 
had 31 LEDs on the side of it to use as a flood light and 6 on the end 
of it to use as a flashlight. At $29 I figured I could give it a try. 
I used it on my sore shoulders one evening and got a good night's 
sleep for the first time in months.

 Dave



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Re: CS LEDs arthritis

2007-11-19 Thread Dave
No I laid it directly on the area that seemed to be causing the 
discomfort until it started to feel warm.

The leds are cool so there is no burn.
Dave

Clayton Family wrote:

Now this sounds like a great idea.  Did you just shine the flashlight 
at your shoulder for awhile?  And is there a link somewhere to link to 
for more info in using LED's ?



On Nov 19, 2007, at 9:17 AM, Dave wrote:



   Linda
 Brooks Bradly had a number of postings on making and using LED 
arrays for that purpose.
 One day I caught an infomercial on TV that was selling a flexible 
array that you could wrap around the affected area but they wanted 
something like $100+ for it so I soon forgot the whole idea.
  
 One day while getting groceries at Costco I noticed a flashlight 
that had 31 LEDs on the side of it to use as a flood light and 6 on 
the end of it to use as a flashlight. At $29 I figured I could give 
it a try. I used it on my sore shoulders one evening and got a good 
night's sleep for the first time in months.

 Dave




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