[Fwd: Re: CS LEDs arthritis: COMMENT]
Someone asked to forward Brooks' comments on LEDs. Marshall ---BeginMessage--- I would remind list members that if one is investigating the use of LED bulbs/arrays for circulation improvement and/or topical pathogen controlwe have found that the red spectrum elements in the 660 to 680 nanometer range are MUCH superior those in other ranges. They do not cost any more than other colored...or clear bulbs.but are immensely more effective at circulation improvement. At least that has been our experience. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: CS LEDs arthritis Date : Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:25:52 -0600 From : Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com To : silver-list@eskimo.com Now this sounds like a great idea. Did you just shine the flashlight at your shoulder for awhile? And is there a link somewhere to link to for more info in using LED's ? On Nov 19, 2007, at 9:17 AM, Dave wrote: > >Linda > Brooks Bradly had a number of postings on making and using LED arrays > for that purpose. > One day I caught an infomercial on TV that was selling a flexible > array that you could wrap around the affected area but they wanted > something like $100+ for it so I soon forgot the whole idea. > > One day while getting groceries at br I noticed a flashlight that > had 31 LEDs on the side of it to use as a flood light and 6 on the end > of it to use as a flashlight. At $29 I figured I could give it a try. > I used it on my sore shoulders one evening and got a good night's > sleep for the first time in months. > Dave -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for br are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> ---End Message---
Re: CS LEDs arthritis: COMMENT
I would remind list members that if one is investigating the use of LED bulbs/arrays for circulation improvement and/or topical pathogen controlwe have found that the red spectrum elements in the 660 to 680 nanometer range are MUCH superior those in other ranges. They do not cost any more than other colored...or clear bulbs.but are immensely more effective at circulation improvement. At least that has been our experience. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: CS LEDs arthritis Date : Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:25:52 -0600 From : Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com To : silver-list@eskimo.com Now this sounds like a great idea. Did you just shine the flashlight at your shoulder for awhile? And is there a link somewhere to link to for more info in using LED's ? On Nov 19, 2007, at 9:17 AM, Dave wrote: > >Linda > Brooks Bradly had a number of postings on making and using LED arrays > for that purpose. > One day I caught an infomercial on TV that was selling a flexible > array that you could wrap around the affected area but they wanted > something like $100+ for it so I soon forgot the whole idea. > > One day while getting groceries at br I noticed a flashlight that > had 31 LEDs on the side of it to use as a flood light and 6 on the end > of it to use as a flashlight. At $29 I figured I could give it a try. > I used it on my sore shoulders one evening and got a good night's > sleep for the first time in months. > Dave -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for br are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com>
Re: CS LEDs arthritis: COMMENT
Interesting thread. I picked up something similar to the flashlight you described at Murray's auto parts store, about a year ago. It has RED LED's in rows along the length of the flashlight and can be made to pulse (on/off) or run in constant mode. It also has powerful magnets on the lamp end so it can be set on the top of the car for a trouble beacon. I think it was only 19.00. Last year at Christmas time when family was over, my granddaughter picked up some foam painting pads I had by my computer. I immediately said put that down those are for a medical device I want to put together. Well, probably don't have to tell you everyone burst out laughing...LOL My oldest daughter said Oh come on now mom you got to be kidding! She thought I was being ridiculous. Naturally I replied NO, I'm not kidding, with a straight face and began to educate her. She wasn't interested, but some day she may be :o) Geeze, now my flashlight will fall into the don't touch category. How funny! Mary On Nov 19, 2007, at 9:17 AM, Dave wrote: One day while getting groceries at br I noticed a flashlight that had 31 LEDs on the side of it to use as a flood light and 6 on the end of it to use as a flashlight. At $29 I figured I could give it a try. I used it on my sore shoulders one evening and got a good night's sleep for the first time in months. Dave -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS LEDs arthritis: COMMENT
Brooks Bradley wrote: I would remind list members that if one is investigating the use of LED bulbs/arrays for circulation improvement and/or topical pathogen controlwe have found that the red spectrum elements in the 660 to 680 nanometer range are MUCH superior those in other ranges. They do not cost any more than other colored...or clear bulbs.but are immensely more effective at circulation improvement. At least that has been our experience. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. That is correct. Which left me wondering how much red there is in a white LED. This seems to answer that: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/48/White_LED.png Apparently not a lot. I believe that much of the reason that the red works so much better than the other colors is that the shorter wavelengths are absorbed before they get much penetration. If you shine a white light on your hand, what you see coming through will be red. Marshall -[ Received Mail Content ]-- *Subject : *Re: CS LEDs arthritis *Date : *Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:25:52 -0600 *From : *Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com *To : *silver-l...@eskimo.com Now this sounds like a great idea. Did you just shine the flashlight at your shoulder for awhile? And is there a link somewhere to link to for more info in using LED's ? On Nov 19, 2007, at 9:17 AM, Dave wrote: Linda Brooks Bradly had a number of postings on making and using LED arrays for that purpose. One day I caught an infomercial on TV that was selling a flexible array that you could wrap around the affected area but they wanted something like $100+ for it so I soon forgot the whole idea. One day while getting groceries at br I noticed a flashlight that had 31 LEDs on the side of it to use as a flood light and 6 on the end of it to use as a flashlight. At $29 I figured I could give it a try. I used it on my sore shoulders one evening and got a good night's sleep for the first time in months. Dave -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for br are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS LEDs arthritis: COMMENT
I have heard blue in the 400-500nm range is effective for acne and other skin issues. A famous laser company is selling a 405nm laser specifically for acne treatment. I'm wondering if red is just as good? Steve -- Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Brooks Bradley wrote: I would remind list members that if one is investigating the use of LED bulbs/arrays for circulation improvement and/or topical pathogen controlwe have found that the red spectrum elements in the 660 to 680 nanometer range are MUCH superior those in other ranges. They do not cost any more than other colored...or clear bulbs.but are immensely more effective at circulation improvement. At least that has been our experience. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. That is correct. Which left me wondering how much red there is in a white LED. This seems to answer that: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/48/White_LED.png Apparently not a lot. I believe that much of the reason that the red works so much better than the other colors is that the shorter wavelengths are absorbed before they get much penetration. If you shine a white light on your hand, what you see coming through will be red. Marshall -[ Received Mail Content ]-- *Subject : *Re: CS LEDs arthritis *Date : *Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:25:52 -0600 *From : *Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com *To : *silver-l...@eskimo.com Now this sounds like a great idea. Did you just shine the flashlight at your shoulder for awhile? And is there a link somewhere to link to for more info in using LED's ? On Nov 19, 2007, at 9:17 AM, Dave wrote: Linda Brooks Bradly had a number of postings on making and using LED arrays for that purpose. One day I caught an infomercial on TV that was selling a flexible array that you could wrap around the affected area but they wanted something like $100+ for it so I soon forgot the whole idea. One day while getting groceries at br I noticed a flashlight that had 31 LEDs on the side of it to use as a flood light and 6 on the end of it to use as a flashlight. At $29 I figured I could give it a try. I used it on my sore shoulders one evening and got a good night's sleep for the first time in months. Dave -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for br are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS LEDs arthritis: COMMENT
Thanks for the clarification. This makes me think of my grandma using infrared for her arthritic hands, so she could quilt. I am looking up the LED s. --Kathryn On Nov 21, 2007, at 11:28 AM, Brooks Bradley wrote: I would remind list members that if one is investigating the use of LED bulbs/arrays for circulation improvement and/or topical pathogen controlwe have found that the red spectrum elements in the 660 to 680 nanometer range are MUCH superior those in other ranges. They do not cost any more than other colored...or clear bulbs.but are immensely more effective at circulation improvement. At least that has been our experience. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS LEDs arthritis: COMMENT
On Nov 21, 2007, at 2:28 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote: Brooks Bradley wrote: I would remind list members that if one is investigating the use of LED bulbs/arrays for circulation improvement and/or topical pathogen controlwe have found that the red spectrum elements in the 660 to 680 nanometer range are MUCH superior those in other ranges. They do not cost any more than other colored...or clear bulbs.but are immensely more effective at circulation improvement. At least that has been our experience. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. That is correct. Which left me wondering how much red there is in a white LED. This seems to answer that: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/48/White_LED.png Apparently not a lot. I believe that much of the reason that the red works so much better than the other colors is that the shorter wavelengths are absorbed before they get much penetration. If you shine a white light on your hand, what you see coming through will be red. Marshall I looked at the graph, and was not sure how to interpret it. There was a spike in the graph between 500 and 600nm. But when I was a kid, I thought the flashlight was red because I have red blood! LOL --Kathryn -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS LEDs arthritis
Now this sounds like a great idea. Did you just shine the flashlight at your shoulder for awhile? And is there a link somewhere to link to for more info in using LED's ? On Nov 19, 2007, at 9:17 AM, Dave wrote: Linda Brooks Bradly had a number of postings on making and using LED arrays for that purpose. One day I caught an infomercial on TV that was selling a flexible array that you could wrap around the affected area but they wanted something like $100+ for it so I soon forgot the whole idea. One day while getting groceries at Costco I noticed a flashlight that had 31 LEDs on the side of it to use as a flood light and 6 on the end of it to use as a flashlight. At $29 I figured I could give it a try. I used it on my sore shoulders one evening and got a good night's sleep for the first time in months. Dave -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS LEDs arthritis
No I laid it directly on the area that seemed to be causing the discomfort until it started to feel warm. The leds are cool so there is no burn. Dave Clayton Family wrote: Now this sounds like a great idea. Did you just shine the flashlight at your shoulder for awhile? And is there a link somewhere to link to for more info in using LED's ? On Nov 19, 2007, at 9:17 AM, Dave wrote: Linda Brooks Bradly had a number of postings on making and using LED arrays for that purpose. One day I caught an infomercial on TV that was selling a flexible array that you could wrap around the affected area but they wanted something like $100+ for it so I soon forgot the whole idea. One day while getting groceries at Costco I noticed a flashlight that had 31 LEDs on the side of it to use as a flood light and 6 on the end of it to use as a flashlight. At $29 I figured I could give it a try. I used it on my sore shoulders one evening and got a good night's sleep for the first time in months. Dave -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com