Re: [SLUG] dialin products
www.everythinglinux.com.au have isdn cards. Doug Balmer wrote: what i want is either a lowend dialin server with 8 lines (4 BRI ports), or some ISDN cards that i can stick into a linux box, or any other options anyone else can offer can someone give some pointers on the ISDN cards? Dean Hamstead writes: What do you mean by dial in products? if you establish a ppp or slop connection then you have a low bandwidth network connection which will then allow any network capable program to run over it. do you need instructions as to how you should setup a small ppp server? Dean -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text -- _|_ | Thanks, iCafe PTY Limited Ben DonohueWeb Hosting Design [EMAIL PROTECTED]Small Business Office Networks Ph. 0011 61 2 9705 7520 http://www.icafe.com.au Mobile: 0417 018 600ACN 080 665 907 Freedom isn't doing what you want... Freedom is knowing what to do -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
[SLUG] modprobe message
What is this message trying to tell me? It's flooding my /var/log/messages file. modprobe: can't locate module block-major-22 Howard. __ LANNet Computing Associates http://www.lannet.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
[SLUG] internal compile error
Compiling PHP on a RH 6.0 system I racked up no less that 3 internal compile errors (signal 11 seg fault). I just re-ran make and the package eventually compiled in full. But what does this indicate about the health of my system? -- Andrew Dorrell PhD.Research Engineer Canon Information Systems Research Australia Phone: 61 2 9805 2224 1 Thomas Holt Drive, North Ryde, NSW 2113. Fax: 61 2 9805 2929 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
[SLUG] updates.redhat.com ???
Trying to get that kernel upgrade... the copy on mirror.aarnet comes with an MD5 checksum error and redhat's ftp site doesn't seem to be accesible (secrets?). I don't like to refer to them as dead hat but... -- Andrew Dorrell PhD.Research Engineer Canon Information Systems Research Australia Phone: 61 2 9805 2224 1 Thomas Holt Drive, North Ryde, NSW 2113. Fax: 61 2 9805 2929 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] modprobe message
On Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 04:36:16PM +1000, Howard Lowndes wrote: What is this message trying to tell me? It's flooding my /var/log/messages file. modprobe: can't locate module block-major-22 the kernel doesn't have a module aliased to handle the block device with a major number of 22. This device is ide1 (the second IDE controller), you'll need a line like: alias block-major-22 ide-probe in your /etc/conf.modules file. (I'm not exactly sure about the ide-probe bit, I'm not on an IDE box righ tnow). Have a read of: Documentation/modules.txt Documentation/ide.txt in your linux kernel source directory. Conrad. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] modprobe message
S'OK. It was telling me that I should run kudzu and stop it from looking for a cdrom that no longer exists. Howard. __ LANNet Computing Associates http://www.lannet.com.au On Fri, 28 Apr 2000, Howard Lowndes wrote: What is this message trying to tell me? It's flooding my /var/log/messages file. modprobe: can't locate module block-major-22 Howard. __ LANNet Computing Associates http://www.lannet.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] updates.redhat.com ???
Andrew, 530-Anonymous user limit reached, see http://www.redhat.com/mirrors.html 530 Login incorrect. Login failed. That's what I get so, try another mirror maybe, or keep trying until you have some success I suppose. :-) David S.. On Fri, 28 Apr 2000, Andrew Dorrell wrote: Trying to get that kernel upgrade... the copy on mirror.aarnet comes with an MD5 checksum error and redhat's ftp site doesn't seem to be accesible (secrets?). I don't like to refer to them as dead hat but... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] internal compile error
Bad memory maybe :) -Original Message- From: Andrew Dorrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, 28 April 2000 4:48 Subject: [SLUG] internal compile error Compiling PHP on a RH 6.0 system I racked up no less that 3 internal compile errors (signal 11 seg fault). I just re-ran make and the package eventually compiled in full. But what does this indicate about the health of my system? -- Andrew Dorrell PhD.Research Engineer Canon Information Systems Research Australia Phone: 61 2 9805 2224 1 Thomas Holt Drive, North Ryde, NSW 2113. Fax: 61 2 9805 2929 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
[SLUG] kde freezes on logout
Hi again, thanks for the modprobe tips I've installed the Corel distro of Linux and when I logout of the KDE, the computer freezes and needs reset to recover. Where do I look to fix this? regard Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
[SLUG] Telemann Satellite card
I've got a Telemann card with my internet connection here at home. Just wondering if anyone had set one up under linux...? nigel kersten_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - c i n d i i - ||| http://4trak.net/cindii || | | | || | | | _synths n beats n stuff\ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
[SLUG] Server Side Includes for Virtual Hosts
Hi, I am using a late model of Apache to drive a Web site I manage. I have a couple of virtual sites and would like to use SSI for one of them. Here is a snippet of the httpd.conf file showing the entries for that particular site: ## ## httpd.conf -- Apache HTTP server configuration file ## --- a lot snipped --- VirtualHost 203.15.68.145 ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] DocumentRoot /hdb1/www/docs/www.ascc.org.au AddType text/html .shtml AddHandler server-parsed .shtml ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] ServerName www.ascc.org.au ErrorLog logs/www.ascc.org.au-error_log #TransferLog logs/www.ascc.org.au-access_log CustomLog logs/www.ascc.org.au-access_log combined IdentityCheck on HostNameLookups on Options Includes ServerSignature email Directory /hdb1/www/docs/www.ascc.org.au/boatingoz Options Indexes /Directory Directory /hdb1/www/docs/www.ascc.org.au/cgi-bin Options ExecCGI /Directory /VirtualHost - Now, I am not sure if the AddType and AddHandler directives mean anything here but I put them in just for good measure. They are also present in the srm.conf file. For the main document root, the Includes work fine. I just cannot get it to work for the virtual host, www.ascc.org.au. As you can see, I have specified "Options Include" under the DocumentRoot for the virtual host. What else do I need to do or what should I check for? Hints, pleasethanks, Dennis -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
[SLUG] divide overflow error
I have a dual boot celeron 466 system running win98 and SuSe 6.2.
Whenevr I shut down windows I get a divide overflow error. Of course
linux shutsdown just fine. What's a divide overflow error ?
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Re : [SLUG] dialin products
On Fri, 28 Apr 2000 Doug Balmer wrote: i need to look into getting some dialin lines running for our office. i would like some recomendations for products that are supported under linux as well as NT. i need at least 8 dial-in lines If this is to be a high usage system for an office perhaps you should consider using one of the phone companies remote access products where they provide radius authenticated access via a single frame relay link to your office. regards Steven -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: Re : [SLUG] dialin products
On Sat, 29 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i need to look into getting some dialin lines running for our office. i would like some recomendations for products that are supported under linux as well as NT. i need at least 8 dial-in lines If this is to be a high usage system for an office perhaps you should consider using one of the phone companies remote access products where they provide radius authenticated access via a single frame relay link to your office. Much as I hate to say it, Telstra's "Dial Connect" service works wonders for situations like this. DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] Server Side Includes for Virtual Hosts
try +Includes make sure shtml is defined Dean Dennis Gray wrote: Hi, I am using a late model of Apache to drive a Web site I manage. I have a couple of virtual sites and would like to use SSI for one of them. Here is a snippet of the httpd.conf file showing the entries for that particular site: ## ## httpd.conf -- Apache HTTP server configuration file ## --- a lot snipped --- VirtualHost 203.15.68.145 ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] DocumentRoot /hdb1/www/docs/www.ascc.org.au AddType text/html .shtml AddHandler server-parsed .shtml ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] ServerName www.ascc.org.au ErrorLog logs/www.ascc.org.au-error_log #TransferLog logs/www.ascc.org.au-access_log CustomLog logs/www.ascc.org.au-access_log combined IdentityCheck on HostNameLookups on Options Includes ServerSignature email Directory /hdb1/www/docs/www.ascc.org.au/boatingoz Options Indexes /Directory Directory /hdb1/www/docs/www.ascc.org.au/cgi-bin Options ExecCGI /Directory /VirtualHost - Now, I am not sure if the AddType and AddHandler directives mean anything here but I put them in just for good measure. They are also present in the srm.conf file. For the main document root, the Includes work fine. I just cannot get it to work for the virtual host, www.ascc.org.au. As you can see, I have specified "Options Include" under the DocumentRoot for the virtual host. What else do I need to do or what should I check for? Hints, pleasethanks, Dennis -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] Server Side Includes for Virtual Hosts
Dean Hamstead wrote: try +Includes make sure shtml is defined Dean Are you saying that the directive should be Options +Includes? If I just have Options Includes in the server root directory (not the virtual server root directory), it works. What do you mean "...shtml is defined"? I have the AddType in my srm.conf file. Like I said, it works in the server root directory. Thanks, Dennis -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
RE: [SLUG] dialin products
what i want is either a lowend dialin server with 8 lines (4 BRI ports), or some ISDN cards that i can stick into a linux box, or any other options anyone else can offer can someone give some pointers on the ISDN cards? After some pain, I eventually persuaded the Eicon Diva cards to work under Linux. (even using Dead Rat 6.0) The second one was easy ;) Stay away from the Diva Pro's tho - it seems the pro's aren't supported by the hisax isdn drivers. Cheers, Marty -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] modprobe message
On Fri, 28 Apr 2000, Howard Lowndes wrote: What is this message trying to tell me? It's flooding my /var/log/messages file. modprobe: can't locate module block-major-22 From the /usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt Block Major 22 is the secondary IDE / CDrom. So it looks like the system can't find the driver for your particular CD. Cheers, Grahame -- SLUG (Sydney Linux User Group) www.slug.org.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
[SLUG] Divide Overflow Error (windows in general)
Their is a "Issue" with windows 98 that causes it to fail on shutdown (when you make it that far). Its caused by windows having trouble flushing out its cd-rom cache. If you go to the Micro$oft website they have a small patch that should fix the error.. Carlo - Wayne Said - I have a dual boot celeron 466 system running win98 and SuSe 6.2. Whenevr I shut down windows I get a divide overflow error. Of course linux shutsdown just fine. What's a divide overflow error ? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
[SLUG] napster
ive downloaded gnapster and gnome napster, if they are in fact different which they seem to be and i am unable to get either of them working. is this because my setttings are messed, i wonder, or does the ethernet server im on just not work like that. anyway, if someone else has had a similar problem(every time i try to connect, it tries, just disconnects, no message, etc) i would love help in fixing it thanks a lot nick -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
[SLUG] Parked Cars at UTS
Hi all, Just a quick note for everyone who parks their cars around UTS for our SLUG meets: Chuck's car was broken into on Thomas St, right near UTS. The window broken, our bags were stolen, etc. This was between 9:30 and 12:30, SLUG dinner time (and a little excursion to acquire some Scrumpy's). Strangely enough, the cute little OpenBSD box on the back seat didn't even get a look in. So, please make sure you keep things in the boot, park defensively on or close to main roads, and keep valuables out of sight. Many thanks to Anand for helping Chuck and I search around late last night. - Jeff -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
[SLUG] netscape
i was trying to download netscape, and i need to choose between linux 2.0 and linux 2.0(glibc) does it matter? whats the difference? im simple, you see thanks nick -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] napster
I've been getting that for a while without having changed anything, connection attempts to the official server disconnect straight away. Try one of the opennap servers, they seem to be fine, mostly. On Fri, 28 Apr 2000, Nick Chandler wrote: ive downloaded gnapster and gnome napster, if they are in fact different which they seem to be and i am unable to get either of them working. is this because my setttings are messed, i wonder, or does the ethernet server im on just not work like that. anyway, if someone else has had a similar problem(every time i try to connect, it tries, just disconnects, no message, etc) i would love help in fixing it thanks a lot nick -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text -- adm // Don't get us wrong, we respect human // life and // all, but, if I was a mass .. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] netscape
Nick Chandler wrote: i was trying to download netscape, and i need to choose between linux 2.0 and linux 2.0(glibc) does it matter? whats the difference? Different versions of the standard C library. To find out what you need, do "ls -al /lib/libc*". On my machine that gives : -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4073346 Feb 1 05:13 /lib/libc-2.1.3.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Mar 23 06:23 /lib/libc.so.6 - libc-2.1.3.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Feb 8 18:46 /lib/libcom_err.so.2 - libcom_err.so.2.0 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 7889 Oct 27 1999 /lib/libcom_err.so.2.0 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root64478 Feb 1 05:14 /lib/libcrypt-2.1.3.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Mar 23 06:23 /lib/libcrypt.so.1 - libcrypt-2.1.3.so The second one /lib/libc.so.6 is glibc so I would choose linux 2.0(glibc). If it was something along the lines of libc.so.5.* then I would choose linux 2.0, the non-glibc version. /lib/libc.so.6 or anything like it is glibc. /lib/libc.so.5 or anything like it is not glibc. Hope this helps, Erik -- +-+ Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-+ Laws of Thermodynamics: 1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot get out of the game. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
[SLUG] User mountable filesystems.
How do I make a filestystem user mountable. (namely the cdrom) I know this is probably really trivial but I did a man fstab etc and couldn't find anything. John -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] User mountable filesystems.
John Francis wrote:
How do I make a filestystem user mountable. (namely the cdrom)
I know this is probably really trivial but I did a man fstab etc and
couldn't find anything.
/dev/fd0/mnt/floppy ext2
noauto,user,suid0 0
/dev/fd0/mnt/dosfloppy msdos
noauto,user,suid0 0
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noauto,ro 0 0
none/proc proc
defaults0 0
none/dev/ptsdevpts
mode=0622 0 0
Add user to the line for the cdrom as I have for my two floppy
listing, but is missig from my cdrom line
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[SLUG] [OT] white van speaker scam in Sydney
Sorry for off topic and cross posts, but I thought I'd warn anyone who may be approached by these guys of the scam. I don't know how widely known the "white van" speaker scam is known, but I was approached yesterday afternoon by a couple of blokes in a white van who were trying to sell me some big speakers. I knew something wasn't right, but they produced enough ID and looked legit enough to ease my conscience. It was all a game to the guys, there's no way I would've bitten if I'd been in my right mind :-) On getting the speakers hooked up here at home I was relatively happy with them. They weren't much, if any better than the Yamahas they replaced, but for $500 I don't think they are too bad. Deciding to check out some reviews and info on them, I found the following two pages: http://www.audioreview.com/reviews/Speaker/product_6738.shtml http://www.frii.com/~rjn/audio/whitevan.htm The reviews section lists them as everything from complete crap, to OK for the money. The FAQ page gave a lot more insight into how these guys work. I feel a bit stupid, can't believe I actually did something like that, but in reality the sound I get out of the speakers now is reasonable for what I paid, so I'll cut my losses. Has anyone else been approached by these guys? Anyone else actually bought a set? I'm wondering how widespread this is in Sydney and whether it needs to be publicised... it's possible that someone out there parted with a thousand bucks for these. I'm still considering wither it's worth taking it to Fair Trading or similar, I'll make a couple of enquiries on Monday morning. BTW, I got approached on Friday afternoon in Artarmon. We missed the SLUG meeting as I didn't want to leave them in the back of the car, a smart move seeing that some did have their car broken into. Brad. -- Brad Thomson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] [OT] white van speaker scam in Sydney
On Sat, Apr 29, 2000 at 01:30:12PM +1000, Brad Thomson wrote: I don't know how widely known the "white van" speaker scam is known, but I was approached yesterday afternoon by a couple of blokes in a white van who were trying to sell me some big speakers. I knew something wasn't right, but they produced enough ID and looked legit enough to ease my conscience. It was all a game to the guys, there's no way I would've bitten if I'd been in my right mind :-) This comes up every year or so in the aus.hi-fi newsgroup. Search on www.deja.com/usenet/ for something like "aus.hi-fi van speakers" for more details. It's a scam. The speakers are crap, and not worth anything near what they claim. What they are doing is illegal, and should be reported to the police straight away (with number plate, description, location, etc). I'm still considering wither it's worth taking it to Fair Trading or similar, I'll make a couple of enquiries on Monday morning. If you can find them, it is. They have mis-represented their product (as well as selling them illegally) so they must give you a full refund if you request it - if you can find them. This is way off-topic for SLUG, so lets leave it at that. If anyone wants to discuss it further, either take it to aus.hi-fi, or in private email. Scott. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] [OT] white van speaker scam in Sydney
At 01:30 PM 4/29/00 +1000, Brad Thomson wrote: Sorry for off topic and cross posts, but I thought I'd warn anyone who may be approached by these guys of the scam. Did you get the rego number of the van ? There has been a report of similar guys selling stolen gear like this. Contact me off-list if you have their rego. Jon -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] [OT] white van speaker scam in Sydney
that speaker scam has been around for ages now, I was approached a couple of years back. Same kind of deal, the guy had an American passport and was working out of a van. Luckily I didn't hav enough money to buy, a wise choice in hindsight. From: Brad Thomson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] [OT] "white van" speaker scam in Sydney Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 13:30:12 +1000 (EST) Sorry for off topic and cross posts, but I thought I'd warn anyone who may be approached by these guys of the scam. I don't know how widely known the "white van" speaker scam is known, but I was approached yesterday afternoon by a couple of blokes in a white van who were trying to sell me some big speakers. I knew something wasn't right, but they produced enough ID and looked legit enough to ease my conscience. It was all a game to the guys, there's no way I would've bitten if I'd been in my right mind :-) On getting the speakers hooked up here at home I was relatively happy with them. They weren't much, if any better than the Yamahas they replaced, but for $500 I don't think they are too bad. Deciding to check out some reviews and info on them, I found the following two pages: http://www.audioreview.com/reviews/Speaker/product_6738.shtml http://www.frii.com/~rjn/audio/whitevan.htm The reviews section lists them as everything from complete crap, to OK for the money. The FAQ page gave a lot more insight into how these guys work. I feel a bit stupid, can't believe I actually did something like that, but in reality the sound I get out of the speakers now is reasonable for what I paid, so I'll cut my losses. Has anyone else been approached by these guys? Anyone else actually bought a set? I'm wondering how widespread this is in Sydney and whether it needs to be publicised... it's possible that someone out there parted with a thousand bucks for these. I'm still considering wither it's worth taking it to Fair Trading or similar, I'll make a couple of enquiries on Monday morning. BTW, I got approached on Friday afternoon in Artarmon. We missed the SLUG meeting as I didn't want to leave them in the back of the car, a smart move seeing that some did have their car broken into. Brad. -- Brad Thomson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] [OT] white van speaker scam in Sydney
On Sat, 29 Apr 2000, Scott Howard wrote: This is way off-topic for SLUG, so lets leave it at that. If anyone wants to discuss it further, either take it to aus.hi-fi, or in private email. Yes, I will alert the authorities. One again, sorry for OT post. I posted only so that anyone not aware of the scam may save themselves a few bucks. If anyone else has any details on these guys recently, please email me off list and I'll include in my report. Brad. -- Brad Thomson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph: 0411 073 140 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
[SLUG] Breaking Up MS - The Fix Is At Hand
So, according to this morning's press http://www.abc.net.au/news/2000/04/item2429092114_1.htm The US Govt have decided on how many 'baby bills' there will be and what they will do. 1) An OS oriented company 2) An applications oriented company Great idea. (Yes, I know it will take 3-5 years to implement) I think the OS company will flop unless MS does something really out of left field, like develop their own Linux Distribution and contribute some of the 'good' bits from Windows 2000 to the open source community in the process (like some of the active directory services stuff). MS-OS will flop *not* because it is *not-Linux* but because it is simply not the best OS for either Server or Desktop. MS have failed to develop and deliver a *single* good, stable OS since MS-DOS 3.1. Since MS-DOS was only every really a 'monitor' with a file system stuck on the side, I don't really think MS has ever understood Operating Systems engineering. On the other hand.. As for the applications group *Bring it on* ! MS-APPS are big and have *lots* (too many) features, but they do work most of the time. Running under a more reliable OS, they will be better behaved and unable (or less able) to crash your desktop. First cab of the rank would have to be a port of MS Office to Linux. I believe this will succeed. People are *used to* MS Office. People would use Linux/KDE as a desktop OS if it had MS office. MS would also need to port some of their new aquisitions to Linux (like Visio 2000, etc). MS-APPS would also be wise to port to other *NIX/X Windows platforms. Comments??? [I'm going to go and hide under my desk now] :) Cheers, Barrie -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
