[SLUG] awk scripting help (cvs file to gnats config)
Hello slug ppl, I was wondering if anyone could help me with a awk script I was writing. I found this funny thing where a if/else statement in awk process both the arguments after the if and the else. The script's purpose is to read a CSV file created by *gulp* Microsoft Exchange and to create a submitters and addresses file for GNU gnats bug tracking tool. here is the portion that I am having trouble with: x = split($csv_namelu["E-mail Addresses"],emailsplit,"%") for (i = 1; i = x; i ++) { if (match(emailsplit[i],/SMTP:[A-Z,a-z]*\.[A-Z,a-z]*@/)) { print "if was true" emailaddr = substr(emailsplit[i],6) emailaddr = tolower(emailaddr) } else { print "if was false" emailaddr = "" } the if statement above this with the same match() function works ok. - yes I checked the brackets match up... um so I'm a little confused here. I've attached the script. All it does is parse in some variables so far. Also attached is the sort of data it reads in from the CSV file (for those fortunate enough not to have MS exchange anywhere nearby). Any help would be greatly appreciated! Luke McKee Utilux ISD Obj-Class,First Name,Last name,Display Name,Alias Name,Directory Name,Primary Windows NT Account,Home-Server,E-mail address,E-mail Addresses,Members,Obj-Container,Hide from AB Mailbox,luke,Mckee,Luke Mckee,lmc,lom,UTILUX\lmc,UTXEXG,,SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]%X400:c=AU;a= ;p=Utilux Pty Ltd;o=UTILUX;s=Mckee;g=Look;,,/o=Utilux Pty Ltd/ou=UTILUX/cn=Recipients,0 BEGIN{ FS = "," OFS = ":" } { if ($1 == "Obj-Class") { for ( i = 1; i = NF; i ++ ) { csv_rowlu[i] = $i csv_namelu[$i] = i } } else { lastname = $csv_namelu["Last name"] firstname = $csv_namelu["First Name"] x = split($csv_namelu["Primary Windows NT Account"],ntsplit,"\\") ntdomain = ntsplit[1] ntuser = ntsplit[2] x = split ($csv_namelu["Obj-Container"],x500split,"=") for (i = 1; i = x; i ++) { if (match(x500split[i],/\/cn$/)) { containername = x500split[i + 1] } } displayname = firstname " " lastname x = split($csv_namelu["E-mail Addresses"],emailsplit,"%") for (i = 1; i = x; i ++) { if (match(emailsplit[i],/SMTP:[A-Z,a-z]*\.[A-Z,a-z]*@/)) { print "if was true" emailaddr = substr(emailsplit[i],6) emailaddr = tolower(emailaddr) print emailaddr } else { print "if was false" emailaddr = "" } } # elmininate records that are not needed #if (emailaddr == "") next #if (csv_namelu["Hide from AB"]) == 1) next } }
Re: [SLUG] Formating a new Drive
On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Peter McCarthy wrote: I have installed a new HDD setup as /dev/hdb It is fdisk'ed with a Linux file system enabled. However I can't work out how to format the drive to make it ready for use. I tried fsck and it bailed on me (not suprising) as it is the File system checker. I tried mkfs -c /dev/hdb and it just keeps coming up with Usage: mkfs.minix [-c | -l filename] [-nXX] [-iXX] /dev/name blocks Asuming you've put only one partition on your new drive. mkfs.ext2 /dev/hdb1 If you haven't put a partition on it, put one on now. DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
[SLUG] Formating a new Drive
Howdy this should be an easy one. I have installed a new HDD setup as /dev/hdb It is fdisk'ed with a Linux file system enabled. However I can't work out how to format the drive to make it ready for use. I tried fsck and it bailed on me (not suprising) as it is the File system checker. I tried mkfs -c /dev/hdb and it just keeps coming up with Usage: mkfs.minix [-c | -l filename] [-nXX] [-iXX] /dev/name blocks But it looks ok to me ! After that I just have to modify fstab and mount the drive and I will be away. Did I miss anything ? Thanx Peter McCarthy -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] awk scripting help (cvs file to gnats config)
Oops. I had a problem with my loop structure. I should have pondered a few hours more before posting to the list. Next time I'll learn, - and I guess you wont hear about it then. Thanks! Luke -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] Argh! My drive no work
On Tue, Jun 13, 2000 at 02:00:20PM +1000, Rev Simon Rumble wrote: On Tue, Jun 13, 2000 at 01:39:38PM +1000, chesty uttered: Filesystems-HOWTO should help you recover (or completely destory :) your filesystem. Erm, nope it doesn't. It tells me about E2fsprogs which I have and have tried e2fsck... No luck and there don't seem to be any options in the man page for recovering from this problem short of alternate superblocks -- which don't seem to work. Should I be trying other superblocks? What numbers do I need to use? Can I search through the fs for them? There a few other utilities from the filesystems-howto that you didn't mention that I thought would be helpful to you. Fixdisktable http://bmrc.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/fat32.html This is a utility that handles ext2, FAT, NTFS, ufs, BSD disklabels (but not yet old Linux swap partitions); it actually will rewrite the partition table, if you give it permission. gpart http://home.pages.de/~michab/gpart/ GPART is a utility that handles ext2, FAT, Linux swap, HPFS, NTFS, FreeBSD and Solaris/x86 disklabels, minix, reiser fs; it prints a proposed contents for the primary partition table, and is well- documented. rescuept Recognizes ext2 superblocks, FAT partitions, swap partitions, and extended partition tables; it may also recognize BSD disklabels and Unixware 7 partitions. It prints out information that can be used with fdisk or sfdisk to reconstruct the partition table. It is in the non-installed part of the util-linux distribution. findsuper e2progs ? Small utility that finds blocks with the ext2 superblock signature, and prints out location and some info. It is in the non-installed part of the e2progs distribution. From memory theres another utility called debugfs. Maybe the undelete-howto might also help? You might try freshmeat for the missing url's, it may lead you to better places anyway. -- chesty -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] wine
and goddamnit, it worked like a charm (or curse, or something) http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~gusl/winword.jpg (warning: big image) Ah, it does my heart good to see Word running as the Gods intended it to:-) Jon -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] Ethernet dropouts..
Terry Collins wrote: 10Base2 makes me ask if there is any exposed cables that may have been damaged or have equipment resting on them (like a filing cabinent that squashes the cable when the top draw is pulled out -{:-). Had that today at work...solved it too *8-) Also 10base2 legs can benefit by a working of all connections - dirty office syndrome leads to crud build up on the connection. Yep, it sounds like bullshit, but it happens. I've seen this too -- Rgds, Chris MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows 95/NT - 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
RE: [SLUG] Formating a new Drive
Try mkfs.fstype... you probbaly want ext2 dave :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter McCarthy Sent: Wednesday, 14 June 2000 4:34 PM To: Linux Sydney (E-mail) Subject: [SLUG] Formating a new Drive Howdy this should be an easy one. I have installed a new HDD setup as /dev/hdb It is fdisk'ed with a Linux file system enabled. However I can't work out how to format the drive to make it ready for use. I tried fsck and it bailed on me (not suprising) as it is the File system checker. I tried mkfs -c /dev/hdb and it just keeps coming up with Usage: mkfs.minix [-c | -l filename] [-nXX] [-iXX] /dev/name blocks But it looks ok to me ! After that I just have to modify fstab and mount the drive and I will be away. Did I miss anything ? Thanx Peter McCarthy -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] wine
On Wed, Jun 14, 2000 at 05:03:26PM +1000, Jon Biddell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: and goddamnit, it worked like a charm (or curse, or something) http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~gusl/winword.jpg (warning: big image) Ah, it does my heart good to see Word running as the Gods intended it to:-) .. and Willie will smirk to in delight to see how many unix boffins trying to run his software on Linux. Furthermore I am actaully not convinced it WinForLinux (and all the other programs which can run win applications on linux) will be good for linux. Remeber OS/2. It failed (bitterly) because no one wrote applications for it as it had an *INBUILT* windooze shell. I dont believe it will help the cause f Linux if we continuously try to run Win applications on Linux. Go to the applications developpers instead and ask them to develop for Linux, eg I just rang Lotus to tell them I would buy 22 Lotus Smartsuite if they develop it for Linux (they know I use it as they have me on their database but currently I have a bunch f NT machines ...). jobst -- People who fight may lose. People who do not fight have already lost. - Bertolt Brecht |__, Jobst Schmalenbach, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Technical Director| | _ _.--'-n_/ Barrett Consulting Group P/L The Meditation Room P/L | |-(_)--(_)= +61 3 9532 7677, POBox 277, Caulfield South, 3162, Australia| -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] wine
At 05:45 PM 6/14/00, Jobst Schmalenbach wrote: On Wed, Jun 14, 2000 at 05:03:26PM +1000, Jon Biddell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: and goddamnit, it worked like a charm (or curse, or something) http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~gusl/winword.jpg (warning: big image) Ah, it does my heart good to see Word running as the Gods intended it to:-) .. and Willie will smirk to in delight to see how many unix boffins trying to run his software on Linux. Yes, that is a fairly sobering thought - well, at least I have my copy of Orifice 2000 up for sale on sold.com.au...:-) Furthermore I am actaully not convinced it WinForLinux (and all the other programs which can run win applications on linux) will be good for linux. Remeber OS/2. It failed (bitterly) because no one wrote applications for it as it had an *INBUILT* windooze shell. I remember it only too well - and have a copy of it sitting on the "goods, for the sale of" shelf behind me..!! I dont believe it will help the cause f Linux if we continuously try to run Win applications on Linux. It's a bit of a catch 22, unfortunately - dons flame-proof suit - there are a number of (from an end-user perspective) good desktop applications for EvilWare that can be run in this manner (NetObjects Fusion, Organizer, certain custom-built apps that we run). Until the time / effort / $$$ are invested to port these to Linux in native format (and a lot of our custom-apps are VB programs, unfortunately), then WINE / EvilWare emulation is at least one way to maybe get some users convinced of the validity of the Linux desktop. Go to the applications developpers instead and ask them to develop for Linux, eg I just rang Lotus to tell them I would buy 22 Lotus Smartsuite if they develop it for Linux (they know I use it as they have me on their database but currently I have a bunch f NT machines ...). I'm in exactly the same boat - I have 15 NT servers, 5 Netware and 2 HP9000's that I manage - the only saving grace is that I can do shit remotely using Citrix Metaframe under Linux, so don't really have a need for NT as such. Jon -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] network cards
In the past I have used 3 of these cards in 1 PC with no problems. Although it appears these new cards must be a newer revision. I think they said revision D2 on the cards themselves. Which driver are you using? From Netgear's FAQ: (http://www.netgear.com/support/support_fa310tx/fa310tx_faqs.shtml) 1.4 Does the FA310TX work with linux? Yes, we have added linux support recently. The driver is included in version 4.0 or higher driver set. This driver is available for download. It will work with all versions of our FA310 network adapter card. If you have NIC has a version identifier D1 or higher (printed on top right hand corner of the card), please make sure the driver on the supplied driver disk is used instead of the public domain tulip driver. The driver they supply is just a tweaked version of tulip.c from the kernel source, and therefore GPL'ed. This is why my current card is Netgear, and when I put the second one, it probably will be too :-) Get it from http://www.netgear.com/support/fa31v402.exe (Alright, I know. But under the .exe it's just a RAR archive..) See what information we can gather, then I will attempt round number 2. Hope this helps. Peter __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
RE: [SLUG] Dynamic DNS Virtual Web services
Except your squid access.log's will show the NAT'd PPP0 interface as originating all the requests... ;) Cheers, Marty Yes it works, refer to the last script angus sent.. it works a treat I can say :) Paul At 10:24 AM 14/06/00 +1000, David Kempe wrote: Thats a funky idea... does it work? Anyone use it? dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Rundle Sent: Wednesday, 14 June 2000 9:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Dynamic DNS Virtual Web services Just as a suggestion, why don't you NAT the ppp0 address using ipchains to a fixed private address and have apache listening on the fixed address? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
RE: [SLUG] Dynamic DNS Virtual Web services
Maybe you could do something really tricky with rinetd port forwarding for the inbound requests, and Ip-Masq for the outbound responses? Cheers, Marty Subject: RE: [SLUG] Dynamic DNS Virtual Web services Except your squid access.log's will show the NAT'd PPP0 interface as originating all the requests... ;) Cheers, Marty Yes it works, refer to the last script angus sent.. it works a treat I can say :) Paul At 10:24 AM 14/06/00 +1000, David Kempe wrote: Thats a funky idea... does it work? Anyone use it? dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Rundle Sent: Wednesday, 14 June 2000 9:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Dynamic DNS Virtual Web services Just as a suggestion, why don't you NAT the ppp0 address using ipchains to a fixed private address and have apache listening on the fixed address? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] bzImage
Robert Smith wrote: three quick questions. 1.did you move the new image to /boot/ ? Yes. 2.did you move System.map to /boot/ ? Yes. 3.before rebooting the did you edit your 'lilo' file and then did you type "lilo"? Yes. yours Robert Smith But thanks anyway for your help. Regards, Matthias -- - Matthias Oertli [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
[SLUG] thanks
To those who replied about my lan card issues. I got it working with round two. The way I fixed it, was where my bios says, are you using a PNP OS, I turned this to off. Cards then were detected fine. Thanks once more to everyone. Bye.. Michael -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
[SLUG] PPP byte counter bug?
Once I had uploaded around 2.1Gb of data pppstats reported "0" as the byte count, the same has now happened that my downloads have exceeded 2.1Gb. (approx) Is this a known problem with ppp-2.3.7, kernel 2.2.9 and/or Redhat 6.0? Thanks, Jarrod. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
RE: [SLUG] PPP byte counter bug?
Once I had uploaded around 2.1Gb of data pppstats reported "0" as the byte count, the same has now happened that my downloads have exceeded 2.1Gb. (approx) Is this a known problem with ppp-2.3.7, kernel 2.2.9 and/or Redhat 6.0? Thanks, Jarrod. ~2.1Gb is a typical breakpoint if the code is using a long variable instead of single or double precision. I don't know if that is the case here. Imho, Dead Rat is so buggy that nothing would surprise me. Dead Rat is giving Linux a bad reputation. ;( Cheers, Marty -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
[SLUG] NEED a HAND - GUI problems
Dear All , Friends, Some-one, I am new to linux and have just installed Redhat 6.1. After some gliches I have finally got it running with GNOME interface but have a little problem.quite literally. everything on the desktop, including the mouse cursor is 1/4 size! And the 'screen' does not fit my monitor screen, its got a black stripe down the left side and cannot be adjust to correct size/shape/position with monitor controls. Can any one help me?? May be you could email me privately. When I get up and running I may have time to join the slug list more fully. Rod Ravenswood Leura -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] NEED a HAND - GUI problems
is it booting straight into gnome GUI or do you get a login prompt first and then type startx? Madhi and Rodney wrote: Dear All , Friends, Some-one, I am new to linux and have just installed Redhat 6.1. After some gliches I have finally got it running with GNOME interface but have a little problem.quite literally. everything on the desktop, including the mouse cursor is 1/4 size! And the 'screen' does not fit my monitor screen, its got a black stripe down the left side and cannot be adjust to correct size/shape/position with monitor controls. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
[SLUG] swap file creation
hi slugs, i've deleted/lost the swap partition. there is room on the HDD for a swap partition, so how does one go about creating a new swap partition? ie what's the command to create a new swap partition. i've tried fdisk. created a new partition. changed it's id from 83 (linux ext2) to 82 (linux swap) but on booting the swap is not found. what's the way forward? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] NEED a HAND - GUI problems
On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Ben Donohue wrote: I missed the original, but After some gliches I have finally got it running with GNOME interface but have a little problem.quite literally. everything on the desktop, including the mouse cursor is 1/4 size! And the 'screen' does not fit my monitor screen, its got a black stripe down the left side and cannot be adjust to correct size/shape/position with monitor controls. This sounds like a classic case of misconfigured scan rates in XF86Config. Check your monitor's configuration _carefully_. Make sure you have both the vertical and horizontal scan rates configured correctly. It shounds like you're running the monitor at a scan rate which is _way_ too high for it to deal with - the monitor responds by dropping other frequencies to compensate, resulting in a smaller screen. This can actually damage your monitor - so boot to _text_ mode if you can {if you set up to boot to X automatically, boot it up long enough to change /etc/inittab and change the default run level to 3, not 5}, or when lilo comes up type linux single instead of just letting it boot to get to single user mode and do the same. Then you can fiddle with your XF86Config and make changes until it works. DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] swap file creation
On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Ben Donohue wrote: i've deleted/lost the swap partition. there is room on the HDD for a swap partition, so how does one go about creating a new swap partition? ie what's the command to create a new swap partition. i've tried fdisk. created a new partition. changed it's id from 83 (linux ext2) to 82 (linux swap) Create partition {which you've done} mkswap /dev/hdaX - replacing X with your partition number. Edit /etc/fstab and add the correct line - it should look something like this /dev/hdaX swapswapdefaults0 0 That format might not be exactly correct - someone could jump in here and point it out exactly, since my Linux box is at home, and I'm not, so I can't confirm my off the top of my head outline. what's the way forward? The way forward is slow and troubled, my son, but learn well, Glasshopper, and soon you will be enlightened. DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] swap file creation
On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Ben Donohue wrote: hi slugs, i've deleted/lost the swap partition. there is room on the HDD for a swap partition, so how does one go about creating a new swap partition? ie what's the command to create a new swap partition. i've tried fdisk. created a new partition. changed it's id from 83 (linux ext2) to 82 (linux swap) but on booting the swap is not found. what's the way forward? Creating the partition is the first step, you need to do two other things to make your swap partition work on boot: a) setup the swap space with mkswap - see man mkswap for details b) tell the system you want this to be swap space by adding a line to /etc/fstab. eg.: /dev/sda5 swapswapdefaults 0 0 If you don't want to reboot to activate the swap space you can use the swapon command, "swapon -a" to activate all the swap partitions in /etc/fstab or "swapon device" to activate the swap on a particular device - see man swapon for details (priorities can be useful if you have more than one physical device, or if you're using swap files.) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
[SLUG] Telstra relaying
To overcome an intractable problem getting my server talk to one particular other server (hermes.net.au), I have configured sendmail to use postoffice.telstra.net to relay mail to that server. That worked fine for months, then yesterday I started getting this back: ... while talking to postoffice.telstra.net: RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Relaying denied Does this mean Telstra is no longer relaying? Does anyone have any suggestions about how I can resolve this? Thanks Peter -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] swap file creation
hi again slugs, sorry about this, the swap partition is not being very friendly. i've created the swap partition with fdisk i've changed the id to linux swap (82) rebooted. (yeah i know... just like windows) mkswap /dev/hda3 setting up swapspace version 0, size = 103215104 bytes swapon -a swapon: /dev/hda3: device or resource busy. fstab has swap in /dev/hda3. this is where swap was origionally. reboot again but swap failing always busy when swapon /dev/hda3 is typed as well. any more ideas grandmasters? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] swap file creation
On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Ben Donohue wrote: hi again slugs, sorry about this, the swap partition is not being very friendly. i've created the swap partition with fdisk i've changed the id to linux swap (82) rebooted. (yeah i know... just like windows) mkswap /dev/hda3 setting up swapspace version 0, size = 103215104 bytes swapon -a swapon: /dev/hda3: device or resource busy. fstab has swap in /dev/hda3. this is where swap was origionally. reboot again but swap failing always busy when swapon /dev/hda3 is typed as well. any more ideas grandmasters? I get the above error if I run swapon -a too - because the device is already being used as swap. Check if the device is already being used for swap: swapon -s -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
RE: [SLUG] Telstra relaying
That's right. They're not allowing anybody to use they're email server as a mail relay for the reason of spamming.. I'm surprised they have taken so long to do this. My box at home sends mail in a different fashion. I actually mimic another mail server which really is my POP server and send out as that. So if your receiving email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] then make your mail server send out as if it was that email server. This may end up having problems with some other servers as they check the IP address your connection from and may complain that your servers IP doesn't match the mail server your coming from. Yet, I havn't gotten this problem as yet. People may disagree also to this setup but it works for me so I'm sticking with it until I end up with another problem... which I haven't. thanks, George Vieira Network Administrator Citadel Computer Systems P/L http://www.citadelcomputer.com.au -Original Message- From: Peter Vogel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 15 June 2000 11:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Telstra relaying To overcome an intractable problem getting my server talk to one particular other server (hermes.net.au), I have configured sendmail to use postoffice.telstra.net to relay mail to that server. That worked fine for months, then yesterday I started getting this back: ... while talking to postoffice.telstra.net: RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Relaying denied Does this mean Telstra is no longer relaying? Does anyone have any suggestions about how I can resolve this? Thanks Peter -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
[SLUG] Dial-in problems
Hi All, I set up a friends computer to allow dial-in to it (mgetty, pppd, rh6.2). It works perfectly the first time. After I hang up and re-dial however the modem answers the phone but instead of a login prompt I get the pppd data stream and the systems fail to connect. Mgetty is respawed from inittab thus, mg:4:respawn:/sbin/mgetty -s 115200 ttyS1 Changing runlevels to 5 and back to 4 fixes the problem and you can dial-in and login for one more try before it screws up again. I made some entries in the crontab to kill pppd every 10 minutes so that I could see if that would "fix" it, but it doesn't, i.e I think that when mgetty is respawed it execs pppd straight away but it doesn't exec it the very first time it is started. Course it all works perfectly on my own computer at home. Any ideas? Pete P.S I'm trying to configure this remotely via the dial in which is proving to be a bit punishing as I can't see what processes are running when the dial-in fails. I then have to wait 24hrs for the system to re-set itself (crontab entry) so that I can dial in again and have another go, ( % jibes_about_my_sanity /dev/null 21) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] Telstra relaying
Hi there Telstra decided to stop relaying thru postoffice.telstra.net because of spam (I didn't even realize it was a open relay) see the notice at the bottom You still have the routing problem with hermes so that was the solution in the end. On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Peter Vogel wrote: To overcome an intractable problem getting my server talk to one particular other server (hermes.net.au), I have configured sendmail to use postoffice.telstra.net to relay mail to that server. That worked fine for months, then yesterday I started getting this back: ... while talking to postoffice.telstra.net: RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Relaying denied Does this mean Telstra is no longer relaying? Does anyone have any suggestions about how I can resolve this? Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:08:42 +1000 (EST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Telstra Internet - Unscheduled Outage Notice Trcking-Number: 2615-0800-01 Note-Date: 14/6/2000 09:34 Outage-Type: Unscheduled Location: NONE Circuit: NONE Outage-Start: 15/6/2000 08:00 AEST (UTC+10h) Outage-End: 15/6/2000 08:00 AEST (UTC+10h) Comments: The Telstra BPD secondary MX server (postoffice.telstra.net) is intended for the use of customers as a backup mail server. Telstra BPD does not provide a mail relay service. Due to abuses of the secondary MX server, we have had to forceably turn all mail relaying off postoffice.telstra.net. This action does not affect the secondary MX hosting functionality on postoffice.telstra.net and it will continue to act as a backup mail server for domains that are configured on it. -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] swap file creation
Ben Donohue wrote: mkswap /dev/hda3 setting up swapspace version 0, size = 103215104 bytes swapon -a swapon: /dev/hda3: device or resource busy. fstab has swap in /dev/hda3. this is where swap was origionally. reboot again but swap failing always busy when swapon /dev/hda3 is typed as well. any more ideas grandmasters? Perhaps you still have /dev/hda3 in your /etc/fstab as a normal partition? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] Re: Telstra relaying
On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, DaZZa wrote: Relaying is the classic method of sending spam - and most sensible SysAdmin's have closed the relay hole in the sendmail/Qmail MTA's to stop it. There is no relay hole in qmail! You can allow open relaying if you wish, and you can alow selective relaying as well, but the default installation (if you build from source) is to be closed. Regards Peter -- Peter Samuel[EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Consultantor at present: eServ. Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +61 2 9206 3410 Fax: +61 2 9281 1301 "If you kill all your unhappy customers, you'll only have happy ones left" -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] Telstra relaying
On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Peter Vogel wrote: To overcome an intractable problem getting my server talk to one particular other server (hermes.net.au), I have configured sendmail to use postoffice.telstra.net to relay mail to that server. That worked fine for months, then yesterday I started getting this back: ... while talking to postoffice.telstra.net: RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Relaying denied Does this mean Telstra is no longer relaying? Quite possibly they've found you doing it, and closed the hole in their sendmail configuration, or restricted relaying to those hosts they trust - which msot likely doesn't include you. Does anyone have any suggestions about how I can resolve this? Do what you should ahve done in the first place - either write to the SysAdmin at the destination and ask them for help fixing the problem, or write to the SysAdmin at Telstra, explaining the situation and asking permission to relay via them. Relaying is the classic method of sending spam - and most sensible SysAdmin's have closed the relay hole in the sendmail/Qmail MTA's to stop it. DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] swap file creation
On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Ben Donohue wrote: i've created the swap partition with fdisk i've changed the id to linux swap (82) rebooted. (yeah i know... just like windows) mkswap /dev/hda3 setting up swapspace version 0, size = 103215104 bytes swapon -a swapon: /dev/hda3: device or resource busy. fstab has swap in /dev/hda3. this is where swap was origionally. reboot again but swap failing always busy when swapon /dev/hda3 is typed as well. Is your disk fsck'd? Could be something is drastically wrong with the disk - since the swap space was there, and now it's gone away. Is /dev/hda3 attempting to be mounted somewhere else in fstab? Try typing "mount" on its own, and see if /dev/hda3 is listed somewhere. DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] Re: Telstra relaying
On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Peter Samuel wrote: Relaying is the classic method of sending spam - and most sensible SysAdmin's have closed the relay hole in the sendmail/Qmail MTA's to stop it. There is no relay hole in qmail! You can allow open relaying if you wish, and you can alow selective relaying as well, but the default installation (if you build from source) is to be closed. Take your religious fervour and insert it blithly somewhere appropriate. I'm not interested in "my MTA is better than your MTA" wars. Any MTA which has ths possibility for relaying - be it deliberate, by default, or just because the SysAdmin is too dumb to be allowed to live and leaves it that way - has a hole. sendmail has the same options - none, selective or wide open. it has a hole. The notes MTA is worse - it's only got wide open or completely closed. And I believe the exchange MTA is the same - wide open or closed. Relaying is a curse invented by the RPC gods to give systems administrators headaches. DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
[SLUG] Internal Modems under linux.
I need to purchase several internal modems. What brands can people recommend as being well supported/easy to setup under linux? (Caldera) - Doug -- _ Network Operations Engineer - Big Pond Advance Satellite Ericsson Australia - Level 5, 184 The Broadway, Sydney 2000 Ph: +61-416-085-390 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] Re: Telstra relaying
On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, DaZZa wrote: On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Peter Samuel wrote: Relaying is the classic method of sending spam - and most sensible SysAdmin's have closed the relay hole in the sendmail/Qmail MTA's to stop it. There is no relay hole in qmail! You can allow open relaying if you wish, and you can alow selective relaying as well, but the default installation (if you build from source) is to be closed. Take your religious fervour and insert it blithly somewhere appropriate. I'm not interested in "my MTA is better than your MTA" wars. Any MTA which has ths possibility for relaying - be it deliberate, by default, or just because the SysAdmin is too dumb to be allowed to live and leaves it that way - has a hole. sendmail has the same options - none, selective or wide open. it has a hole. The notes MTA is worse - it's only got wide open or completely closed. And I believe the exchange MTA is the same - wide open or closed. Relaying is a curse invented by the RPC gods to give systems administrators headaches. 1) I am not a religious zealot. I recommend qmail, but my track record on this list will show that my feelings towards other MTAs are "if you're happy with it, then use it" I am against people making incorrect statements which may mislead those with insufficent experience into making a poor decision. You'll also note that I did not mention sendmail in my post. I don't know enough about sendmail to know if it ships with or without open relaying turned on. Therefore you can't assume that I'm saying that qmail is better then sendmail in this case. 2) Relaying is necessary! How else do you expect people to send mail to smart mailers. If they couldn't use the smart mailer, they'd need direct internet connectivity. This is not possible for many computers - especially those behind firewalls which deny them direct internet access. 3) Configuring an MTA correctly requires a certain level of experience. It is not (IMO) something that should be left to novices. 4) You can't read tone into email (unless the author has gone to great lengths to _emphasise_ the WORDS!). 5) Lighten up! Regards Peter -- Peter Samuel[EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Consultantor at present: eServ. Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +61 2 9206 3410 Fax: +61 2 9281 1301 "If you kill all your unhappy customers, you'll only have happy ones left" -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] Internal Modems under linux.
On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Doug Stalker wrote: I need to purchase several internal modems. What brands can people recommend as being well supported/easy to setup under linux? (Caldera) Almost none. Be very, very careful you don't fall into the trap of buying Winmodems - modems which rely on the computer's CPU to think for them. Most of them don't work under Linux. My standard modem recommendation is the USR HST Courier - not sure if they come in an internal version, though. And they cost a bundle, but they work forever - I've had mine more than 7 years now, it's been on 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and it's still going strong. DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] Re: Telstra relaying
On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Peter Samuel wrote: 5) Lighten up! Sorry - too mch BOFHing for too many idiots today. I'll take my opinions and my bad attitude and go home now. DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] Re: Telstra relaying
On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, DaZZa wrote: On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Peter Samuel wrote: 5) Lighten up! Sorry - too mch BOFHing for too many idiots today. I'll take my opinions and my bad attitude and go home now. No, don't go home. We don't want that. Just READ the posts. (I'm a great one to talk here, as I often do NOT read the posts carefully enough :) Regards Peter -- Peter Samuel[EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Consultantor at present: eServ. Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +61 2 9206 3410 Fax: +61 2 9281 1301 "If you kill all your unhappy customers, you'll only have happy ones left" -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
RE: [SLUG] Internal Modems under linux.
The only internal modems I trust are the ISA ones that you can specify the IRQ and COM port.. They never fail me.. But looks like you can't buy them either these days. thanks, George Vieira Network Administrator Citadel Computer Systems P/L http://www.citadelcomputer.com.au -Original Message- From: DaZZa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 15 June 2000 1:17 PM To: Doug Stalker Cc: SLUG Subject: Re: [SLUG] Internal Modems under linux. On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Doug Stalker wrote: I need to purchase several internal modems. What brands can people recommend as being well supported/easy to setup under linux? (Caldera) Almost none. Be very, very careful you don't fall into the trap of buying Winmodems - modems which rely on the computer's CPU to think for them. Most of them don't work under Linux. My standard modem recommendation is the USR HST Courier - not sure if they come in an internal version, though. And they cost a bundle, but they work forever - I've had mine more than 7 years now, it's been on 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and it's still going strong. DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] Re: Telstra relaying
At 12:49 PM 6/15/00 +1000, DaZZa wrote: Relaying is a curse invented by the RPC gods to give systems administrators headaches. ...and pathetic spam complaint processing work for people with much better things to do. -- Alexander Else http://cyberchrist.org -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] telstra ADSL
hdsl is only being offered in the cbd, roughly from central down to circular quay. if you're serious enough about your server that you require over 600k upload speed (that's pretty high volume) then you should probably be thinking about co-location. for those with the cash there are other alternatives as well. dds has been popular in the past (still is) and frame relay is being rolled out more and more in corporate environments and if you wanted to house your servers on your own site is probably the option you'd consider over dds, given that either way you'll probably be going through telstra. At 08:38 AM 6/14/00 +1000, you wrote: HDSL would be better for servers, ie 2Mbit each way. ADSL is approx 600k upload and 6Mbit download. dave -- Alexander Else http://cyberchrist.org -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
[SLUG] Mandrake 7.1 review
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Re: [SLUG] Telstra relaying
OK, I'm going to show my total ignorance here, (but how else am I going to learn?) What is relaying? I'm (still) trying to set up my own domain, and my 1st attempt at email I got an error 'Relaying denied' Regards -- FormViewer - view your form from many angles Version 1.05 now available http://www.cia.com.au/pfaulks -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
[SLUG] Publicity Contacts for InstallFest 2000?
Hi all, There's pretty cool event in it's planning stages at the moment: InstallFest 2000. The idea is that LUGs, University groups, schools, etc. all across the country will be holding InstallFests week after week, sort of like a roadshow, without the marketing and proprietary software. ;) There's a preliminary web page up at http://www.linux.org.au/installfest/ which currently shows LinuxSA and SLUG taking part (Yes, that does mean that we're having an InstallFest in July!) Other LUGs have shown interest too, so we're pretty sure it's going to go ahead. I'm interested in hearing if anyone has some good media contacts we can get on to. I wouldn't mind seeing this in the Sunday papers, if you know what I mean. ;) Comments, suggestions, flames, YYY, all welcome. - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w: http://advogato.org/person/jdub/ i: 16341281 (jdub!) q: "She said she loved my mind, though by most accounts I had already lost it." -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
[SLUG] Gnu Tar --files-from=file name option
I have been trying to use a list of files with the --files-from= option of Gnu tar. In particular, I want to be able to change directories before it processes the files in the list. For example, I want to extractfile1 into directory /u01/a andfile2 into directory /u01/b. I set up the file list file like this: -C /u01/a file1 -C /u01/b file2 The file is named extract.cntl From /u01, I use the following syntax to start the extract: tar xvf /dev/nrmt0h -T extract.cntl The result is that both file1 and file2 are extracted to /u01 and not to the correct sub-directories. The GNU tar: an archiver tool documentation describes the operation but does not give any clear examples. Can anyone help. Thanks, Dennis
[SLUG] Mozilla M16 released.
kFor those interested in the bleeding edge of web browsers... Mozilla M16 has been released. Milestone 16 Released M16 builds have begun to make their way to the ftp site. Check back later if what you're looking for isn't there yet. New in M16 are skin switching, session history, and autocomplete. Read the release notes for more info. http://www.mozilla.org DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] Mozilla M16 released.
What is the state of Mozilla? It rocks, has done since about M3. I was reading through the postings on slashdot and it seems the people are far from happy about the slowness of releases and features. Slashdot is a hive of flame and unpleasability (apologies to George Lucas). The Slashmob aren't goign to be pleased by much at all, so don't worry about them. Does anyone know when thew final release is due, Ive heard many people say 'when its ready', but its been in development for what seems like years now! Yes on both counts. It has been in development for ages, because there was a very big change of tac early on. Very, very risky, but very much worth it. Mozilla are no longer building a browser, they're building a new platform that runs on just about everything. This is Bill Gates worst nightmare come true: Netscape are finally putting the masking tape on the Windows, so to speak. I was under the impression the since netscape decided to release the source this was the first big test of the open source / bazaar type design paradigm. Hell no! It was the first big commercial support for open source development, but look around you at all the Free Software that's been around for years. Mozilla is a child of the revolution. How is Mozilla going to compare? It's pretty bloaty as it stands, but that's due to the amount of development code and mush that goes along with pre-alpha software. Gecko, the rendering engine, is tiny and ferociously fast. They're building the entire interface on top of that... But there's a hell of a lot that goes into a modern browser (never trust the fool who says `it's just a browser'). Any thoughts or further resources i could be looking at to find a few answers? http://www.mozilla.org/ http://www.mozillazine.org/ are good to start with! - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w: http://advogato.org/person/jdub/ i: 16341281 (jdub!) q: "She said she loved my mind, though by most accounts I had already lost it." -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] Mozilla M16 released.
On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, DaZZa wrote: kFor those interested in the bleeding edge of web browsers... Mozilla M16 has been released. I've been playing with it today. After, # tar -xzvf mozilla*.tar.gz there appeared no "package" folder as the README file suggests. Running # ./mozilla-installer didn't seem to work either. So I reverted back to the 15th Milestone. cheers -- Rod |_ \/\/ - |_ \/\/ - |_ \/\/ - |_ \/\/ - |_ \/\/ - |_ \/\/ Rodney Gedda BEng(Hons) Ph (02) 9902 2728 Technical Journalist 88 Christie st LinuxWorld.com.auSt Leonards NSW 2065 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxworld.com.au |_ \/\/ - |_ \/\/ - |_ \/\/ - |_ \/\/ - |_ \/\/ - |_ \/\/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
RE: [SLUG] Mozilla M16 released.
What is the state of Mozilla? I was reading through the postings on slashdot and it seems the people are far from happy about the slowness of releases and features. Does anyone know when thew final release is due, Ive heard many people say 'when its ready', but its been in development for what seems like years now! I was under the impression the since netscape decided to release the source this was the first big test of the open source / bazaar type design paradigm. I remember at the last SLUG meeting there was a discussion about the state of Netscape as it is right now (2.5 million lines of bloat - crashing a few times a day etc) How is Mozilla going to compare? Any thoughts or further resources i could be looking at to find a few answers? -Original Message- From: DaZZa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 15 June 2000 2:46 pm To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Mozilla M16 released. kFor those interested in the bleeding edge of web browsers... Mozilla M16 has been released. Milestone 16 Released M16 builds have begun to make their way to the ftp site. Check back later if what you're looking for isn't there yet. New in M16 are skin switching, session history, and autocomplete. Read the release notes for more info. http://www.mozilla.org DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text This email message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains information which may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please do not read, save, forward, disclose, or copy the contents of this email. If this email has been sent to you in error, please delete this email and any copies or links to this email completely and immediately from your system. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] Internal Modems under linux.
On Thu, Jun 15, 2000 at 01:12:10PM +1000, Doug Stalker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I need to purchase several internal modems. What brands can people recommend as being well supported/easy to setup under linux? (Caldera) Make sure the modem is not a WinModem. There are only VERY FEW that work! If you (and you can still get them) get a normal modem (non winmodem) ANY of the internal ones will work. I do not understand why people need to have winmodems where the CPU gets additional work to do, an additional driver is required (hence more possibilities of failure) and a port is nothing else but an address! Jobst -- Was that your wife I saw in that GIF? |__, Jobst Schmalenbach, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Technical Director| | _ _.--'-n_/ Barrett Consulting Group P/L The Meditation Room P/L | |-(_)--(_)= +61 3 9532 7677, POBox 277, Caulfield South, 3162, Australia| -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text