Re: [SLUG] SendMail Queue Flush
Wrote Peter McCarthy on Mon, Jun 19, 2000 at 03:25:11PM +1000: Howdy all I have an older version of sendmail (RH 4.2) which I use in the office for our email gateway (yes I know I will upgrade soon) But for now I have a couple of fellows that thought it would be fun to email everyone in there address book some fun pictures of nude girls etc.. How do I flush the sendmail queue to get rid of these messages as they are choking our dialup modem link to the net. I don't think this is the official way to do it but it works for me: type mailq to get the queue IDs, then delete the appropriate files from /var/spool/mqueue (may be just /var/mqueue or something completely different). Each mail has two files, a control file and the queue file. You need to delete both. Chuck -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] Scsi CD rom gone missing
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000, John Clarke wrote: We can see the two hard drives as sda and sdb, but what the hell is the device for the CD? /dev/scd0 is the first CD, the one with the lowest SCSI ID. It doesn't necessarily refer to the device with SCSI ID 0. Well shit. You learn something every day. Thanks John - I didn't know that! DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] Perl last hope..
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000, chesty wrote: Think about it. You are *NOT* calling the counter.cgi script from the command-line ... you are inside a CGI shell. Since the That makes sense. How about $outcount=`/home/httpd/cgi-bin/counter.cgi?domain=www.hexidecimal.com.aupage=signupvisible=true`; The above is not a valid shell invocation. How about: $outcount=`/home/httpd/cgi-bin/counter.cgi "domain=www.hexidecimal.com.aupage=signupvisible=true"`; But, same problem: CGI.pm will look in REQUEST_METHOD and get its values according to that. Maybe this would work: $outcount=`REQUEST_METHOD="" /home/httpd/cgi-bin/counter.cgi "domain=www.hexidecimal.com.aupage=signupvisible=true"`; -- Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] Scsi CD rom gone missing
John Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Jun 19, 2000 at 04:54:38PM +1000, Peter Rundle wrote:
# mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom
mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/scd0 as a block device
You need to compile SCSI support into your kernel, and include both SCSI
disc and tape support (they're separate options).
You probably mean SCSI CDROM support :)
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[SLUG] SendMail Queue Flush
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:25:11 +1000 Howdy all I have an older version of sendmail (RH 4.2) which I use in the office for our email gateway (yes I know I will upgrade soon) But for now I have a couple of fellows that thought it would be fun to email everyone in there address book some fun pictures of nude girls etc.. How do I flush the sendmail queue to get rid of these messages as they are choking our dialup modem link to the net. stop the sendmail process cd /var/spool/mqueue grep -li jpg | xargs rm -f start the sendmail process If you're lazy don't even bother stopping starting sendmail... what's a few errors between friends. ---GRiP--- Grant Parnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Ph: 02-8701-4564 Mob: 0408-686-201 Web: http://www.poboxes.com/gripz No Microsoft products were used in the production of this message. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
[SLUG] 9:52am up 368 days, 17:37, 1 user, load average: 1.02, 1.01, 1.00
What a great OS! [root@gateway /root]# cat /etc/redhat-release Red Hat Linux release 5.2 (Apollo) [root@gateway /root]# uptime 9:52am up 368 days, 17:37, 1 user, load average: 1.02, 1.01, 1.00 [root@gateway /root]# -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] 9:52am up 368 days, 17:37, 1 user, load average: 1.02, 1.01, 1.00
Happy Birthday to you... Happy Birthday to you... 1 year old. Ian Ward wrote: What a great OS! [root@gateway /root]# cat /etc/redhat-release Red Hat Linux release 5.2 (Apollo) [root@gateway /root]# uptime 9:52am up 368 days, 17:37, 1 user, load average: 1.02, 1.01, 1.00 [root@gateway /root]# -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
RE: [SLUG] 9:52am up 368 days, 17:37, 1 user, load average: 1.02, 1.01, 1.00
Damm. Our office server is only on 262 days. That was before some idiot pulled the power plug off... Otherwise, it would have been easily 400 odd days. -- Aravind -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ian Ward Sent: Tuesday, 20 June 2000 09:55 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] 9:52am up 368 days, 17:37, 1 user, load average: 1.02, 1.01, 1.00 What a great OS! [root@gateway /root]# cat /etc/redhat-release Red Hat Linux release 5.2 (Apollo) [root@gateway /root]# uptime 9:52am up 368 days, 17:37, 1 user, load average: 1.02, 1.01, 1.00 [root@gateway /root]# -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] Scsi CD rom gone missing
Hi, well we are still doing battle with this CD. You need to compile SCSI support into your kernel, and include both SCSI disc and tape support (they're separate options). Good theory but my box at home has a scsi cd burner and scsi zip drive in it and dead rat 6.2 detected both with the standard kernal. Though both use scsi id's 7 ). But we re-did the kernal anyway's just to be sure, to be sure, nope didn't do it. Tried every major and minor number from 11 0 to 11 8 and none of those work. I'm kinda confused with this device file mknod stuff in Linux With other unixes I've used the major and minor numbers specify the scsi id, but with Linux no matter what the scsi id the cd is on, scd0 always refers to the "first" scsi cd. Any insights into this? Given that sda is major 8 minor 0 I'd have thought that the cd would be major 8 minor 8 but then obviously I don't understand major and minor number in Linux. Anyway as it shows up in /proc/scsi/scsi I'm sure we'll get to it somehow. So we will change the scsi id to be less than 7 and see how we go. Cheers Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
[SLUG] lilo problem
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Re: [SLUG] 9:52am up 368 days, 17:37, 1 user, load average: 1.02, 1.01, 1.00
On Tue, Jun 20, 2000 at 09:55:15AM +1000, Ian Ward wrote: What a great OS! Ya :) [root@gateway /root]# cat /etc/redhat-release Red Hat Linux release 5.2 (Apollo) Same version :) [root@gateway /root]# uptime 9:52am up 368 days, 17:37, 1 user, load average: 1.02, 1.01, 1.00 [root@gateway /root]# [root@box /root]# uptime 10:21am up 396 days, 8:46, 1 user, load average: 0.09, 0.02, 0.01 Mine's bigger then yours. ;) -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) URL: http://www.zip.com.au/dev/null 'He had position, but I was determined to score.' -- Worf, DS9, Season 5: 'Let He Who Is Without Sin...' -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] 9:52am up 368 days, 17:37, 1 user, load average: 1.02,1.01, 1.00
The question is:
Why the hell is the load average at 1.00 ?
I think you have a rouge process.
My gateway (the good ol' p100) sits on 0.00 all the time (unless i
recompile PHP, thats another story !)
Matta
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On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, Ian Ward wrote:
What a great OS!
[root@gateway /root]# cat /etc/redhat-release
Red Hat Linux release 5.2 (Apollo)
--- questionable
[root@gateway /root]# uptime
9:52am up 368 days, 17:37, 1 user, load average: 1.02, 1.01, 1.00
[root@gateway /root]#
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Re: [SLUG] lilo problem
Boot with the emergency boot disk (you did make one, didn't you) and then run lilo. If you didn't make an emergency boot disk then you will need to use the installation CD, create a rescue floppy, boot the installation boot disk and then type "rescue" in order to get a system running, then run lilo. (Caveat, RH is assumed here) -- Howard. __ LANNet Computing Associates http://www.lannet.com.au On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, Jia Ai wrote: If i install windows after linux, what can I do to install lilo into the MBR again.? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] 9:52am up 368 days, 17:37, 1 user, load average: 1.02,1.01, 1.00
Possibly for the same reason mine stays at 2.00:
bash$ uptime
10:55am up 22 days, 16:16, 27 users, load average: 2.00, 2.01, 2.00
bash$
I'm running the distributed.net client on my dual-processor machine.
(I'd have a better uptime, but I had to install some hardware.)
On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, Matt Allen wrote:
The question is:
Why the hell is the load average at 1.00 ?
I think you have a rouge process.
My gateway (the good ol' p100) sits on 0.00 all the time (unless i
recompile PHP, thats another story !)
Matta
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On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, Ian Ward wrote:
What a great OS!
[root@gateway /root]# cat /etc/redhat-release
Red Hat Linux release 5.2 (Apollo)
--- questionable
[root@gateway /root]# uptime
9:52am up 368 days, 17:37, 1 user, load average: 1.02, 1.01, 1.00
[root@gateway /root]#
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[SLUG] optus@home ISA ethernet card?
Hi, I was supplied with an ISA SMC EtherEZ ethernet card from optus, and trying to use the card under OpenBSD results in a message saying that the NIC is corrupt(?), and that it is trying to send an illegally sized packet of 4000 or so bytes (??). I have not tried getting this card working under Linux, though that is because I could not get it installed on my ISA-bus based 486. I have an NE2000 based card that works fine under OpenBSD, and surprisingly, both cards are recognised by the OpenBSD installer, which by the way, is the best installer I have ever used ;) ... Anyway, I know there are quite a few people on the list that are using optus@home cable, has anyone used or had any experience with these cards? Should I demand a replacment card? Thanks, Alex Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
[SLUG] Webmail - advice sought
Hi, This is the scenario: High School (in Oz) with 900 students, we did not want the overhead of maintaining email for students so at first banned it altogether then allowed seniors only to use webmail (enforced by SQUID authentication). Now I am regretting that decision, at least 25% of my daily downloads are from webmail sites (mainly hotmail) ie all the advertising and images etc. What I am asking isis the following a sensible, or achievable idea? Set up a webmail server in the school that students can join and which is accessible from the internet.then I should be able to control all the garbage that goes with it. If it does not have all the whistles and bells of some systems, so be it. We would justify it only on educational grounds anyway, anything more than that then they can do it at home. Any advice comments etc appreciated, especially if someone has set one up in a similar circumstance. We are behind a series of firewalls, running 24/7 but only on a 56k link. Cheers, -- Simon Bryan[EMAIL PROTECTED] Information Technology Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] OLMC Parramatta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] Webmail - advice sought
How about just blocking the adds and replacing them with your own which are cached locally. Like "Go do you're homework" :) Have a look at Ad zapping with squid http://www.zip.com.au/~cs/adzap/index.html On Tue, Jun 20, 2000 at 11:59:51AM +1000, Simon Bryan wrote: Hi, This is the scenario: High School (in Oz) with 900 students, we did not want the overhead of maintaining email for students so at first banned it altogether then allowed seniors only to use webmail (enforced by SQUID authentication). Now I am regretting that decision, at least 25% of my daily downloads are from webmail sites (mainly hotmail) ie all the advertising and images etc. What I am asking isis the following a sensible, or achievable idea? Set up a webmail server in the school that students can join and which is accessible from the internet.then I should be able to control all the garbage that goes with it. If it does not have all the whistles and bells of some systems, so be it. We would justify it only on educational grounds anyway, anything more than that then they can do it at home. Any advice comments etc appreciated, especially if someone has set one up in a similar circumstance. We are behind a series of firewalls, running 24/7 but only on a 56k link. Cheers, -- Simon Bryan[EMAIL PROTECTED] Information Technology Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] OLMC Parramatta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text -- -- John FerlitoPh: +612 9253 5755 Systems Engineer Fax: +612 9247 5276 Pacific Internet (Aust) Pty Ltd http://www.pacific.net.au Internet Wholesalers to Australian Business NASDAQ: PCNTF -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
[SLUG] LIFE_STAGES virus hits AustraliaD
Our company was hit this morning with a new email worm called Life Stages. It is a script-in-a-MIME attachment, called LIFE_STAGES.TXT.SHS From Symantec: "Execution of this attachement will open a text file in Notepad displaying the male and female stages of life. While the user is reading the text file the script is executing in the background. This worm spreads itself using Outlook, ICQ, mIRC and PIRCH." Unfortunately, the worm is difficult to remove, and causes a lot of changes in the Windows registry, including moving REGEDIT.EXE to the Recycle bin. Once again, this is a Microsoft-culpable exploit, due entirely to executable content being made available to naive users through their Lookout programmes. And the fix will probably be another 40 MB download ;^) Needless to say, the worm spread like wildfire through our WAN until the mail server was turned off. And of course, only Windoze boxen were hurt by it. -- Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] Webmail - advice sought
What I am asking isis the following a sensible, or achievable idea? Set up a webmail server in the school that students can join and which is accessible from the internet.then I should be able to control all the garbage that goes with it. If it does not have all the whistles and bells of some systems, so be it. We would justify it only on educational grounds anyway, anything more than that then they can do it at home. Any advice comments etc appreciated, especially if someone has set one up in a similar circumstance. We are behind a series of firewalls, running 24/7 but only on a 56k link. Not that I'm biased but... :) Have you looked at something like TWIG (http://twig.screwdriver.net/) or IMP (http://www.horde.org/imp/). They are both webmail systems in PHP. IMP generates very favourable comments from people who use it and supports both IMAP and PHP mail, although I think IMAP may be more favourable in your situation. Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] optus@home ISA ethernet card?
On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, Alex wrote: Alex, When/where do you get the error message ? Try posting the output from dmesg/ifconfig for the NIC.. and providing more info, these cards normally work flawlessly under *BSD, ymmv... de0: Digital 21041 Ethernet port 0xe400-0xe47f mem 0xe740-0xe740007f irq 12 at device 10.0 on pci0 de0: SMC 21041 [10Mb/s] pass 2.1 de0: address 00:e0:29:47:78:27 de0: driver is using old-style compatability shims de0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 inet 203.164.10.230 netmask 0xff80 broadcast 203.164.10.255 ether 00:e0:29:47:78:27 media: autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: active supported media: autoselect 10base5/AUI 10base2/BNC 10baseT/UTP full-duplex 10baseT/UTP /Norman Hi, I was supplied with an ISA SMC EtherEZ ethernet card from optus, and trying to use the card under OpenBSD results in a message saying that the NIC is corrupt(?), and that it is trying to send an illegally sized packet of 4000 or so bytes (??). I have not tried getting this card working under Linux, though that is because I could not get it installed on my ISA-bus based 486. I have an NE2000 based card that works fine under OpenBSD, and surprisingly, both cards are recognised by the OpenBSD installer, which by the way, is the best installer I have ever used ;) ... Anyway, I know there are quite a few people on the list that are using optus@home cable, has anyone used or had any experience with these cards? Should I demand a replacment card? Thanks, Alex Powered by Symetric Multiple Processors running on FreeBSD/SMP Paladin Corporation Pty Ltd.ACN: 081191611ABN: 72081191611 The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne - Chaucer NIC: NW83-AU ICQ: 61730896 FreeBSD, OpenBSD, Solaris, SCO, Debian Software Engineering: c/c++/perl/sql/eiffel/pascal/haskell/php Ph: +612 9835-4782 Fax: +612 9864-0487Mobile: 0416-207-857 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
[SLUG] Telstra Cable Modem - Heartbeat timeouts
Hi All, well I have finally gone over to the dark side :-( with a Telstra Cable Modem install (took only 4 days from order to install delivery). I have a SuSE 6.4 system as the router/bridge/masquerader. Works well except I get these very annoying packet rejects and heartbeat time outs. as the snippet of log shows: Jun 20 12:44:11 ringtail kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=17 24.192.3.18:5051 144.132.219.35:1027 L=36 S=0x00 I=48488 F=0x T=62 (#48) Jun 20 12:44:59 ringtail bpalogin[320]: Timed out waiting for heartbeat - logging on Jun 20 12:44:59 ringtail bpalogin[320]: Logged on as gkelly - successful at Tue Jun 20 12:44:59 2000 I had assumed that ipchains had to have a rule to let DNS (I suspect) to work correctly (ie: the above 24.192.3.18:5051 issue) so I added the following rules but it made no differnce at all. ipchains -A input -p udp -s 24.192.0.0/18 5051 -d 144.132.219.35 1027 -j ACCEPT ipchains -A input -p tcp -s 24.192.0.0/18 5051 -d 144.132.219.35 1027 -j ACCEPT Can anyone using BPA enlighten me (please). Thanks Grahame -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [lias] Re: [SLUG] Webmail - advice sought
On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, Simon Bryan wrote:
Am already running Cameron Simpsons adzapper, which works well. But a
lot of the graphics etc are not adds as such. Maybe Cameron can add all the
hotmail junk to the zapper?
Hmmm, fair enuff. Yes, webmail is the worst way of doing email.
1) A registered domain.
olmc.nsw.edu.au
Good start.
2) A routable IP address
Yep
Better start
3) An MX record and exchanger.
I guess so, as we already receive mail, it is a permanent dial-up.
So why not just run a local mail server, and only give your seniors
accounts on it? Completely block web traffic from all except selected
machines {if required}, and just let sendmail spool to the local linux
box?
4) The web server software, linked with sendmail.
The tricky bit! :-)
I suspect this could be overkill - if they're using the webmail, then
obviously they have access to machines - it's not hard to give them shell
accounts on the Unix box - hell, even POP3 accounts - and let them just do
mail that way - it'd save you ever accessing the web sites again, you
could procmail them to restrict mail size to something reasonable,
stopping large file attachments.
That's what I'd do, anyway.
DaZZa
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Re: [SLUG] Webmail - advice sought
Quoting Simon Bryan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, This is the scenario: High School (in Oz) with 900 students, we did not want the overhead of maintaining email for students so at first banned it altogether A wise move...:-) Seriously, have a look at IMP - it might just do what you want Jon -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [SLUG] Webmail - advice sought
On Tue, Jun 20, 2000 at 11:59:51AM +1000, Simon Bryan wrote: Hi, This is the scenario: High School (in Oz) with 900 students, we did not want the overhead of maintaining email for students so at first banned it altogether then allowed seniors only to use webmail (enforced by SQUID authentication). Now I am regretting that decision, at least 25% of my daily downloads are from webmail sites (mainly hotmail) ie all the advertising and images etc. well now that you've let them use webmail sites, such as hotmail, wouldn't they want to have a more transportable email address? How will you convince them to give up, say, person@hotmail in favour of [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead? What I am asking isis the following a sensible, or achievable idea? Certainly a good idea for those whom you aren't giving access to external mail sites (yet). Check out IMP, which is widely used, acmemail and twig. (They should show up a in google search). So as long as you can convince others to give up their current address it'll be a good idea. Set up a webmail server in the school that students can join and which is accessible from the internet.then I should be able to control all the garbage that goes with it. If it does not have all the whistles and bells of some systems, so be it. We would justify it only on educational grounds anyway, anything more than that then they can do it at home. Any advice comments etc appreciated, especially if someone has set one up in a similar circumstance. IMP uses Javascript; Acmemail requires javascript to be off. I've not used twig enough to comment on it. I'd be inclined to recommend IMP, myself. We are behind a series of firewalls, running 24/7 but only on a 56k link. Ouch. You may find you link saturated by webmail then ... I thought the government was wiring up schools in NSW. What happened to that? Anand -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [lias] Re: [SLUG] Webmail - advice sought
On Tue, Jun 20, 2000 at 01:20:32PM +1000, DaZZa wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, Simon Bryan wrote:
3) An MX record and exchanger.
I guess so, as we already receive mail, it is a permanent dial-up.
So why not just run a local mail server, and only give your seniors
accounts on it? Completely block web traffic from all except selected
machines {if required}, and just let sendmail spool to the local linux
box?
Because that requires a Unix account? Imagine 900 accounts with 10%
disappearing every year.
4) The web server software, linked with sendmail.
The tricky bit! :-)
I suspect this could be overkill - if they're using the webmail, then
obviously they have access to machines - it's not hard to give them shell
accounts on the Unix box - hell, even POP3 accounts - and let them just do
mail that way - it'd save you ever accessing the web sites again, you
could procmail them to restrict mail size to something reasonable,
stopping large file attachments.
If you are already handling the 10% disappearance problems then POP/IMAP
might be a good way to go. They can access it home and school using whatever
they like.
Anand
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Re: [lias] Re: [SLUG] Webmail - advice sought
On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, Gary Reynolds wrote: I guess I'm saying that because at uni we have over 3500 students whose accounts get updated every semester (thats 3 times in one year) - which means more than 10,000 updates. We already do this for something like 20,000 students throughout the year. The updates run incrementally, every night. I personally think that personal accounts on a private mail server is defintely the way to go here. We have a dedicated student mail server. It's constantly loaded. We are investigating Web mail clients for the students (IMP) but haven't made a lot of progress yet. I'll be interested to see where this thread goes.. rachel Rachel Polanskis University of Western Sydney, Nepean Senior UNIX AdminPO Box 10, Kingswood NSW 2747 Systems OperationsInformation Technology Services, Kingswood [EMAIL PROTECTED]Phone: +61 (0247) 360 291 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
Re: [lias] Re: [SLUG] Webmail - advice sought
I think so, but you have to show people before they believe it will work at all! By the 'Power of One' - if they can't access them they can't use them. Exactly... We are not a government school and I think you will find that even in Govt schools it is a lot of smoke and mirrors. It sure is - 64K ISDN, not globally visible IP's... locked right down. Your not that bad off with a 56K modem. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text -- Simon Bryan[EMAIL PROTECTED] Information Technology Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] OLMC Parramatta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Users Group Mailing List - http://www.slug.org.au To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the text
