[SLUG]Tekram SCSI cards - device busy!
Hello Folks
I have a Tekram DC-315U that I'm trying to get going under linux. Not
as the primary card. I want to use it as the secondary card for the CD
drives and tape drive.
What modules are people who are using for this card?
My reading says tmscsim ncr53c8xx, but both don't work - they give
device busy. I suspect that the NCR driver is really looking for the
DC390 card.
Does anyone have any experiences with the Tekram DC-315U under linux
that they would care to share.
If it matters, the primary card is an Adaptec 2940U.
taah.
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Re: [SLUG] Backup programs
George Vieira wrote:
This is what I'm looking for in a backup program.
Is this single box or enterprise?
http://www.woa.com.au/linux/reports/backup has some comments on
Arkeia, Bru and Novanet so far (Yep, Anthony I'm acutely aware I have
another to review)
1. Must be GUI (Boss is not good at Unix) which has a selectable
backup/restore (similar to Kdat).
I don't know Kdat, but have you tried BRU?
2. Does a cpio or tar backup.
Look on the http://www.everythinglinux.com.au site for Anthony's free
scripts if you want something based around this. Not icons, but good
scripts.
3. Does filesystem backups (uses /dev/nst0 and on a filesystem by filesystem backup)
4. Can setup, save it and it runs at a cron level.
Tapeware is the closest I could get but uses huge disk space for the
database and is commercial. But it's the best backup I've seen for Linux.
Does it have a trial version?
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Re: [SLUG] Reading a file into variables?
Robert Loomans wrote:
, it was cheaper than going to Dymocks!
Try http:\\www.cetustech.com.au
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Re: [SLUG] Reading a file into variables?
Robert Loomans wrote:
...snip...
shrug I know which I'd take
Yep, easy, you email Len and ask when he will have the third edition
in and you buy Australian. Otherwise people just decide that Netzien
is a pack of bastards and bad mouth them. "If they are not going to
buy Australian, why should we use them". Swings and roundabouts. I
always prefer to give one of the local guys first go.
Of course, I also don't believe that the customer is always right
either {:-).
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Re: [SLUG] Reading a file into variables?
Matt wrote:
Yes, places like Amazon.com BN.com (expensive) and Bookpool.com are always
quicker than EverythingLinux, Cetus, Dymocks, AngusCoote etc. So if you dont
want to wait one or two weeks (maybe more) get the stuff from overseas.
I didn't see any tongue in cheek smiley, so I'm assuming you are
serious. When I sold books, a few years back, we were selling books
back into the USA because we delivered quicker into USA, than the USA
suppliers. It turned out that six weeks was a regular delay between
order and delivery in the USA (pool your months orders, buy in and
then ship). I understand it may have recently changed as Amazon had to
build a warehouse to counter criticism (sp?).
All orders from CetusTech and EverythingLinux are two days max to my
door and when they weren't I knew why before I asked.
Personally, I would much rather support local people who support SLUG,
then send my money overseas.
Ob dec; I have in the past received Thank You Tux's from both {:-)
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Re: [SLUG] Reading a file into variables?
Matt wrote:
I'm sorry, I was referring to brand new books that are just published. Don't
the US online bookstores get the new stuff before us + 4 day Express ?
Theoretically, but I'm sure a 'with- it' local distributor could have
one in their hands just a quickly if you really must have it ASAP (but
I can not think of a real life situation where that might apply, i.e
having it yesterday).
What or what is Len ? :)
Sigh!
Len Chan at CetusTech, http:\\www.cetustech.com.au,
Anthony Rumble, et al at Everything Linux,
http:\\www.everythinglinux.com.au
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Re: [SLUG] Lies, Damned Lies and Stats Cheats [Was: Reading a file into variables?]
Jeff Waugh wrote:
Jon Biddell wrote:
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Hey Terry - no fair trying to fsck the stats !!!
*sigh*
I thought it might come to this. I guess Zack, Rodos, jwz and myself have a
lot to answer for.
But I'm going to fight back anyway! Consider Jamie's script modified; to
handle "special cases" such as these. ;)
1 - I think I was first to realise this "little feature".
2 - Give up, it is a hopeless cause.
3 - What's that saying; "Old age and treachery beats youth and skills
everytime!" {:-)
4 - Who needs a gamefest - the fiddle slug stats contest has begun!
5 - It was calling quoting noise that did it.
6 - I make an effort to minimise quoting.
7 - I like to think I'm doing a good job of that.
8 - Not everyone has threading, so you do feel like just a little
quote is necessary.
9 - I'm trying to reduce my verbosity and your stats discourage this.
0 - Do you know that the "stats" in our household show I do over 50%
of the cooking?
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Re: [SLUG] Red Hat slagging
Dave Kempe wrote:
Sort of on that note too, seeing as the community one of the strong points
about Linux, its important taht we stick together. Having all this division
seperate us can only weaken us.
No, having discussion enables the community to recognise its weak
points and fix them up. There will also need to be a fair amount of
continuing discussion for the community to decide where it is going.
A reasonable anology for the Linux Community is perhaps that swarm
screen saver, where each of the little bees(?) is a GNU(?)/GPL project
and the kernel is the queen.
The trick is to recognise those who participate in the discussion for
the good of Linux, as opposed to other interests.
Red Hats' involvement with Linux has been and will continue to be
a positive thing. I am glad Red Hat is a commercial success, this
success is a good thing for Linux.
What's good for Linux is good for all the other distros as well.
Umm, I assume you don't mean this.
Linux is the kernel.
GNU was the original set of apps
Distros are things like RedHat, Debian, Yaddrassil, Slackware,
Mandrake, Caldera, CorelLinux, LinuxOne {:=), etc (far too many to
keep up with), woops TurboLinux,
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Re: FW: [SLUG] uptimes
Erich Schulz wrote:
My web server at home is 33Meg Dx, works just fine on my US robotics 56K modem:
I prefer the Banksia (MyFastModem V34 model) modems to the USR modem.
I found the US Roboticsa will give the highest speed peaks, but wasn't
as reliable (more redials), whereas the Banksia modem gave a
consistent connection at the cost of being a slightly lower speed.
The Banksia's were also better for other modems to dial into (5 years
of running BBSs).
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[SLUG] WWW interfaces to searching message archives.
Hello Sluggers
Okay, the first attempt to provide a searchable index to my slug
archive went nowhere (the proggy(swit) possibly didn't like a rh5.2
enviro and returned nothing but a 5Mb pile of kludge, then there has
been a bit of discussion on new proggies, so I thought I'd ask for new
recommendations.
So, since it is a wet Friday and end-of-the-month, this matter comes
to the fore again. What are people's current recommendations on
program to provide a WWW searchable interface to a message archive?
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Re: FW: [SLUG] uptimes
Danny Yee wrote:
.snip.
But this machine has been in continuous operation as a web server for
all that time, serving up to ten thousand requests a day - and it's also
a 66Mhz 486 with 16MB of memory!
Blow this, I've had enough. I'm retiring the pentium 100 with 64Mb of
ram at http://ww.woa.com.au and going back to a 486Sx20 with 8Mb of
ram. That should be sufficent for my hits {:-). I knew they would come
in handy some day.
Does anyone know of a linux distro that will provide an apache server
and nfs and fit onto 500Mb of hard disk (swap included)? {:-^).
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Re: [SLUG] Hi posters.
Howard Lowndes wrote:
I guess this old codger had better shut up a bit (8-(
Naah, just need to look at the stats a bit closer.
back to which is Thu, 16 Jul 1998 07:50:33 PDT
These go back a fair way, when SLUG was a bit smaller and some names
not around. A lot of the top posters are "old farts" who have been
helping for some time. Some help through list, others in other areas.
Rank #MSG Name
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1 1392 Ken Yap answers a lot of questions,
2 1138 Terry Collins was answering a few Q's, but also organising a few
things,
3 641 Charlie Brady answers a lot of questions.
4 605 DaZZa ditto
5 480 Howard Lowndesditto, but only 1/3 of Ken, etc.
6 411 Anthony Rumbleditto,
7 347 Rachel Polanskis and so, on down the list.
8 299 Grant Parnell
9 293 Michael Lake
10 272 Peter Samuel
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Re: [SLUG] CD-Rom on ID 8, aha1510 driver required.
Peter Rundle wrote:
...snip
Anyway the scsi card is an ISA aha-1510. Did a search on freshmeat
for aha1510, no results. Searched adaptec.com, they have drivers
for Doze, OS2 and Sco Doh!. Anybody know if there is a driver for
Linux for the adaptec aha-1510 scsi card?
aha-1510 are a polling card and don't work like the proper scsi cards.
Unfortunately the scsi guru Charie Brady is out of Oz on holidays I
believe, so your best option is to search the SLUG archives for SCSI
and Charlie Brady.
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Re: [SLUG] Maintaining files on a Novel Server from Linux box.
DaZZa wrote:
The sysadmin mentioned this. He said it does impact on the
server performance and there are security issues. He's
rather not do an NFS serve.
It's not NFS - it's called something else, but I can't remember what. Oh,
you can get NFS for Netware, and it works quite well - but thast wasn't
what I was talking about.
I'd reckon your best bet would be to get the Novell client from Caldera,
and go with that. You'll have to add IPX support to your kernel as well.
It is actually a client for NDS (4.11+) or Bindery(3.12+) access. Yep,
security is an issue as it can get access to all the volumes.
Basically nwlogin user, then nwmount -s SERVER -v VOLUME /mnt/dir
I have it running at home to swap stuff off the novell 4.11 server and
into the linux FS and viceversa.
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Re: [SLUG] Maintaining files on a Novel Server from Linux box.
DaZZa wrote:
Basically nwlogin user, then nwmount -s SERVER -v VOLUME /mnt/dir
Does this require any additional actions on the server console? Is there
some NLM needed to make it work?
Not that I remember. I've had it running since Caldera 2.1 came out
(24 months ago?). This server does have the tcpip stuff configed, but
as far as I'm aware it just loads the IPX stuff and you are away.
Sorry, it is a bit long since I set it up and it ain't broke.
Interestingly, I downed the novell server over the long weekend and
the linux box restablished the link when the novell server came back
up (the linux box also runs the outside webcam, so it stayed up).
The connection just shows up as an active connection on the monitor
under the user name with no distinguishing features.
The only gotcha is it enforces 8.3 names. Hmm, I haven't looked at
long names, because the only other clients of the novell server were
wfwg/win3.11.
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Re: [lias] Re: [SLUG] Webmail - advice sought
Anand Kumria wrote:
So why not just run a local mail server, and only give your seniors
accounts on it? Completely block web traffic from all except selected
machines {if required}, and just let sendmail spool to the local linux
box?
Because that requires a Unix account? Imagine 900 accounts with 10%
disappearing every year.
RH6.1+ allows virtual users for mail, no shell account.
Does anyone know if these can be configged from the commandline .i.e a
script to add.
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Re: [SLUG] Distributions
Jon Biddell wrote:
Not wanting to start another Religious War (which this probably will), but
who is using which distro for what ? What is "the best", if this can be
quantified ?
If you don't want to start a religious war, then don't ask what is the
best {:-). I might be thinking if Linuxone can do it, then WOA can
bring out a distro and of course it will be the best {:-).
For example, I'm using SuSE for both server and desktop at the moment, but
am thinking of converting one to Redhat 6.2 - just to see what it has to
offer aver and above SuSE
You have to try them to see if you like them I guess, but unless you
have a reason, it seems a reasonable pointless exercise.
I use RH because it was the distro that just rolled on first time when
I was starting out (Yadd Slack died), so I've kept on using it. I
don't like the way RH is big and acting MS like, so I'm interested in
trying various other distros.
I'm firstly looking at a distro that is easy for newbies to install as
I don't want to recommend Linux to friends and spend all my time
telling them how to do it. so this has tended to colour my views.
TurboLinux might have something to offer the specialist in its
clustering or server, but I've not been impressed with the workstation
distros.
Caldera had some funnies under 1.3 and still seems to have some
funnies under 2.2, so I've never warmed to it. I keep one Caldera
server running and will do so until I need to do some upgrading, then
it will disappear.
Suse seems interesting and I've done one install (6.0 - No X) and
found YAST hard to understand. The box kept on dying with core dump
every two weeks, but it was minimal hardware and could have been the
app that was running on it. A few people seem to like it from 6.2 and
onwards.
Fro a "work" situation, as far as I'm concerned, they all work great
at the prompt. The main diff is where files are hidden and what
flavour of file placement you like.
From a work situation, the real question is how easy are they to
config and set up.
How the heck do you keep up with the distributions ?
You choose one, you install it and just use it until you come across a
problem, which you then fix by upgrading.
If it is work, then subscribe to the relevant lists for that distro.
If it is home and it aint broke, then don't fix it - get on with using
it.
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Re: [SLUG] Distributions
Jon Biddell wrote:
If you don't want to start a religious war, then don't ask what is the
best {:-). I might be thinking if Linuxone can do it, then WOA can
bring out a distro and of course it will be the best {:-).
Point taken The question came up at work today, when trying to convince
PHB to let me put a Linux demo box up...
If YOU are going to support the box, go with what you know best/find
easiest.
If there is stiff resistance, go with something with the name, like,
sigh, RedHat.
If you have a very specific job in mind, then ask on the list for
people's experience with distro's and apps, e.g. network monitor, etc.
It is usually the apps you want to know, rather than the distro,
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Re: [SLUG] Distributions
DaZZa wrote:
...snip...
And again, with the next release, they plan to change everything to yet
another version of GlibC - so there'll be no upgrading - it'll be
re-install. It's almost as bad as WindoZ.
Is this glib thing a RedHat thing or a Linux thing? In the past, I've
been informed that it was a linux driven upgrade and that RH was just
first cab off the rank.
I've also never had a successful RH upgrade. It has always required a
complete re-install. So now I usually partition off what I want to
keep and install the new stuff as needed.
I agree that Linux has become just as bad as Windoz with its upgrade
treadmill every few months, but as I decline to play bleeding edge, it
doesn't worry me. I just install the latest at the time and leave it
until it is broke.
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Re: [SLUG] ordering cds ##
Minh Van wrote:
damn it. no support for arrays in bash 1.14.7 :/
can i order cds through slug ?
try http://www.cetustech.com.au, http://www.everythinglinux.com.au,
linuxplaza, linuxcentral?, etc.
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[SLUG] Oz PHP4 Source
Does anyone know of an OZ PHP4 source?
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Re: [SLUG] cron / crontab
Doug Balmer wrote:
what is the format of the crontab file? i want to put something in there
but have no idea what the numbers mean.
01 * * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.hourly
02 4 * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.daily
22 4 * * 0 root run-parts /etc/cron.weekly
42 4 1 * * root run-parts /etc/cron.monthly
Generally you don't, you put it in the sub-directories as listed above
depending on when you want it run.
man 5 crontab
minute hour day-of-the-month month day-of-the-week is the format.
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Re: [SLUG] GamesFest!
Jeff Waugh wrote:
...snip
The GamesFest will be on July 8th, and we're hoping Jamie's daughter will be
there to mop the floors with our hopelessly untuned `skillz'.
The really exciting thing to watch will be all those breeze shooters
who now have to play without cheat mode {:-)
And now to the real reason for this message
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Re: [SLUG] Re: bind (was Telstra relaying)
Peter Faulks wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jun 2000 14:57:58 +1000, Graeme Robinson wrote:
if you tell us what mailserver software you are using someone here might be
able to help you configure it.
I think my first problem is to configure bind properly.
I can't work out what should be 'A' records and what should be 'CNAME' records.
In my named.woa for the woa.com.au domain, I have
eagle A 192.168.27.1
dns CNAME eagle
ns CNAME eagle
nameserver CNAME eagle
www CNAME eagle
newsCNAME eagle
magpie A 192.168.27.4
teatree A 192.168.27.6
ftp CNAME 192.168.27.8
So, I've A'd the machines, but CNAME'd the task so I can move the task
to different machines quiet easily.
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Re: [SLUG] Re: bind (was Telstra relaying)
Anand Kumria wrote:
On Fri, Jun 16, 2000 at 12:41:57PM +1000, Terry Collins wrote:
Peter Faulks wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jun 2000 14:57:58 +1000, Graeme Robinson wrote:
if you tell us what mailserver software you are using someone here might be
able to help you configure it.
I think my first problem is to configure bind properly.
I can't work out what should be 'A' records and what should be 'CNAME' records.
In my named.woa for the woa.com.au domain, I have
eagle A 192.168.27.1
dns CNAME eagle
nsCNAME eagle
nameserverCNAME eagle
None of those three are good ideas. It means that machines attempting a lookup
perform the opertation twice. Once to get a reference (CNAME) and once again
to get eagle's address.
Isn't that in the nature of CNAME'ing anyway.
What is good and what is bad really depends on the situation.
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Re: [SLUG] Ethernet dropouts..
George Vieira wrote:
I have 3 Ethernet cards in my Linux server which are all Realtek 8029 cards.
I don't know if these cards have problems under linux or not but I'm
starting to wonder.
Not much help to you, but these cards have worked fine for me for over
two years.
...snip...
We are (unfortuanately) still running 10Base2 to the users and 10BaseT for
10Base2 makes me ask if there is any exposed cables that may have been
damaged or have equipment resting on them (like a filing cabinent that
squashes the cable when the top draw is pulled out -{:-).
Also 10base2 legs can benefit by a working of all connections - dirty
office syndrome leads to crud build up on the connection. Yep, it
sounds like bullshit, but it happens.
..snip..
sessions are dropped? Is it just a matter of eliminate a possible cause one
at a time and probably start at the ethernet card?
Nope, start logging all problems and look for common factors.
Are they all on the one 10base2 leg,
What were they doing in X?
How many sessions did they have open,
etc.
There are a lot of possibilities to be eliminated.
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Re: [SLUG] Argh! My drive no work
Rev Simon Rumble wrote:
I have a big mutha of a drive with stacks of mp3s and the like on them.
It also has a couple of DOS partitions on it. The DOS partitions are
working perfectly but the ext2 partition seems to have come unstuck:
The obvious initial 2c is to ask if the system has changed drive
parameters in the bios. This is the sort of problem I have when the
system changes the parameters for some reason (thankfully very rare).
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[SLUG] XV replacements
Hello Folks
I'm looking for an XV replacement.
Specific problem is that XV works great in landscape mode 1024x768,
but will not convert to portrait mode 768x1024. It clips the vertical
size to 768.
Can anyone nominate a replacement package process.
Basically I'm getting 24bit colour images (scanned photographs) and
converting them to a series of sizes (320x200, 600x480, 800x600
1024x768) in 8 and 24 bit colour. Occassionally, a photograph is in
vertical format and processing through XV losses the aspect through
vertical size limitation.
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Re: [SLUG] Home Network
Jim Clark wrote:
.snip...
Any recommendations for places to buy all the bits and
pieces I may need? (Jaycar sell 305m rolls of Cat5e - $255,
and 24point patch panels - $149 - but I don't know if there
are better places to buy).
The expensive bits from Jaycar are the wall plates (same as the twin
switch plates) and the rj45 socket.
Best options, if you can is to also look at electrical distributors as
sometimes the total price from them is significantly cheaper than from
Jaycar etc. The trick is to have a list of everything that you want
and ask them for all up pricing. Do not try buying a bit here and a
bit there as they will go back to max price.
Anand's comment on running a pair makes good sense as the cable is
cheap. The slow part is threading the cable, so buy 2x300metre drums
to run from.
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Re: [SLUG] Home Network
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have no interest in paying someone to do something I can do myself.
Don't ask them on my account.
I can not remember anyone discussing paying for installation, but
asking for tips on DIY.
It is easy, but don't strip 6" of covering off unless you are going to
then cut 5" of wire. You get Cat5 performance by keeping the same
twisting going right to the termination block. Also don't supertwist
the ends as this can degrade performance as well and snap solid core
cable.
Buy a proper termination tool (there are cheap ones around) and don't
try using a screwdriver as people say you can.
Test as you go as this points out errors in your method when they are
easy to fix.
It will take longer than you think. Termination is quick compared to
walking roof trusses and pulling/fastening roof trusses.
Cable clamps/supports/pins are cheap, buy them and use them
Number/identify both ends of each run uniquely on each cable. So the
first two runs are 12, then run out, pinned up and finally cut and
labelled 12 on the panel end as well, then 34, etc.
It makes more sense to have the panel numbers follow a sequential
wander around the rooms, then be all over the place.
I prefer to run cable before the gyprocker goes to work as all good
gyrockers will punch the holes in the sheeting for you. They do it for
the electrical as it is. The finished room will look different once
sheeting is up. Nothing worse then punching a hole in a wall into the
wrong stud cavity {:-).
0.5m of cable at the wall plate is fine. Hint- you can nail mounting
brackets to the studs just like the elctricians do - this is easier
than those fiddly slip in clips.
But at the panel, allow 1m-2m. Remember, you don't want cable coming
in under the stairs, then swinging throught the air to the back of the
patch panel. Make sure you allow enough to be clamped to walls, cable
ties to brackets, etc.
Turks and others sell channel conduit with snap on covers that can be
fastened to walls to provide accessable cable ducting.
If you are planning on doing monitoring, also allow for an independent
power source. You can not monitor a front room with a sugar cube
camera if it's power comes from a mains plug in the room, that can be
unpowered by a bugular from the fuse box.
We are currently using ROLIN BELL, located at
Whilst company names are being posted (and to make this post a bit
more useful), I can recommend the Bush Brothers (don't know the
company name) from Riverwood as being very good at cabling. Also
Rivercorp from Hornsby (but that was a few years ago).
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Re: [SLUG] Home Network
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
..snip...
Good idea - getting at the wall from underneath the
floor is a good compromise if you are doing it after
the event...
For retro fitting on wooden floors in buildings with raised piers, the
trick I use is to drive a 6"+ nail through Very close to the skirting
board below where you want the outlet. This allows you to easily spot
exactly where you need to drill up through the frame to get the
correct stud cavity. Just check for nail heads in the bottom, so you
know you are not drilling into the bottom of a stud and that you are
accessing the correct cavity.
The 6" nail comes out okay (block of wood to protect floor, etc) and
usually the wood swells overtime to close the nail hole, or the carpet
rolls back down.
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Re: [SLUG] Job Opportunities in CSG (fwd)
Van Ly wrote:
Excuse me, but isn't this a LINUX list?
I don't see Linux anywhere in your positions folks.
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Subject: Job Opportunities in CSG
We are currently advertising for two positions in the school's
Computing Support Group.
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Re: [SLUG] Job Opportunities in CSG (fwd)
Van Ly wrote:
Terry,
Apart from the politics involved, I dont see a major difference between
UNIX (which variant do you mean?) and [GNU/]Linux (which variant *must* I
refer to?). GCC, Perl, tcl/tk, gawk, etc. work on Solaris, GNU/Linux,
DU, etc. If you look at the source code and consider the origins of
the various components under GNU/Linux you may be surprised.
The politics is that this is a Linux list, not a unix list. Whilst
your site may see a background in either as acceptable, the broader
community is very much about division by flavour of unix and it is
creaping into the linux jobs as well.
If you had only listed the unix job, I would have ignored it under the
unix/linux background. It was the non-unix job that tipped me to
posting.
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Re: [SLUG] video cameras
Jamie Honan wrote:
Probably best to separate cameras from capture devices. Cameras
that can produce video signal / capture devices take video signals.
The axis box is the only thing I know of that is directly networked.
Great if you want minimal hardware in an exposed situation (Yep, I can
sell it). (Note power requirements)
The problem with the cheap Jaycar, et al sugar cube cameras is light
levels as you have to provide some irising, either through software
(haven't found any yet), or manually adjust.
Allthings, http://www.allthings.com.au, have the more versatile
cameras with auto irising and weather proof mountings, but cost a lot
more. Read their www pages for a lot of info.
However, you mention IR and night time, so I gather you are planning
to IR light the area, which should fix the problem of your camera
having to respond to different light (it wont need to if it is in an
enclosed area).
You might also consider buying some of the Oatley Electronics IR
floods in different leds to see which frequency is best for the
camera. Otherwise, for large areas, fitting IR glass to a flood light
is an options.
You might also consider a cheap videocam (auto iris, auto focus). This
is an idea based on fiddling with one recently.
If you want to do the separate camera and computer, you need 486+ with
PCI slot. I, Everything Linux and Len Chan can sell you capture cards.
I've put sugar cubes 10M away from capture card with no problems (Suse
stand at Linux Expo 2000 - well Len did, but I made the cables up
{:-). CPU depends on how many frames per second.
Terry Collins will have stacks of info on capture cards, I'm
sure he will reply.
(something like http://www.woa.com.au/linux/how-tos/webcaminstall.html)
This will give you some dated software stuff.
for capture, bascially bt484 type cards.
There are plenty of cheap IR cameras, e.g oatley electronics has them,
or Jaycar.
For more professional, allthings in perth has an extensive range and
probably lots of advice.
Their advice is "Read our webpages"
Oatley, Jaycar and allthings are on the web or grab an electronics
australia / silicon chip.
www.oatleyelectronics.com
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Re: [SLUG] Deai-press
George Vieira wrote:
Why doesn't the list have a subscription block so if your not registered
then the email bounces with a "Sorry, you must first register to submit to
the list" message.
Because this list doesn't require you to be subscribed to post to it.
The general concensus is that the delete key is preferrable.
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Re: [SLUG] [OT] repeaters hubs ##
George Vieira wrote:
We have one here that has 3 ports and hopefully we're getting rid of it and
changing to a switch.
Donations to the SLUG networking Kit are always welcome.
I'll collect old NW kit either on behalf of SLUG, or whatever.
The idea being to have it avaialble for fests and for sluggers to play
with to learn a bit of the old stuff.
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Re: [SLUG] wget with proxy authentication
gizmox wrote:
Hello,
How to use proxy user/passwd on wget?
I didn't find it on the command line options or config file (.wgetrc).
Try wget --help | more
--help is one of the more obscure /? -? -h /h options you can try on
the commandline.
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[SLUG] CivCTP file size check
Has anyone got CivCTP and could check a couple of files for me.
ls -l ./ctp_data/default/graphics/pictures/pic5*.zfs
-r--r--r-- 1 geneweb utmp 73830576 Apr 14 1999
./ctp_data/default/graphi
cs/pictures/pic555.zfs
-r--r--r-- 1 geneweb utmp 73830576 Apr 14 1999
./ctp_data/default/graphi
cs/pictures/pic565.zfs
[terryc@owl CivCTP]$
I've suddenly lost 400Mb overnight and these two file stick out like
the proverbials.
TIA.
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Re: [SLUG] Life is a 'where is it'
Richard Blackburn wrote:
snip
Thanks you for your response. To get more precise the likely candidate
for moving would be the entire doc directory. But I would need to leave
a symbolic link behind ... right? None of the books I have specifically
indicate that a link for an entire directory and all its children is
possible . . . they just talk about links to files. Is such a link
possible?
Yes
Go to new place you want to put the stuff.
Create new directory new
cd new
cp -r /path/to/old/* #copy recursively the original stuff
ls #check it is there
cd /path/to/old
cd .. # up one level, of course use cd /path
mv old old-2 # shift old aside slightly
ln -s /path/to/new old # make the link
du -s old-2# check size of original
du -s old # compare to new
if paranoid you can find on each sub-dir and pipe into a file, then
run that program (which I can not remember at present - aaah = diff)
that compares the contents of two files.
Check any apps that work across the link. Occassionally some will not
work.
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[SLUG] Script wanted
Hello Sluggers
Ran than risk brain fusion and since so many like showing off their
scripting skills {:-), I thought I would just ask this one.
List every file in the directory and its contents (an integer number)
I've been fiddling with
for o in 'ls -1'
do
$o 'cat $o' #but haven't twigged to what is wrong with 2nd part
done results
taa.
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Re: [SLUG] Linux laptops
I'm thinking of buying a laptop. Of course, it has to be able to run
linux.
Does anyone know if Linux run okay on Toshiba laptops?
If so, I can sell them without the MS Wintax
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Re: [SLUG] tax, damn them
David Sainty wrote:
sigh On this note
Is Gnucash at all usuable for any of this GST accounting? Sounds like a
nifty little Australian O.S. project if not - extend Gnucash to make it
GST "compliant". (This has probably been said on SLUG before?)
GnuCash is not suitable. It really is just a home cash record keeper.
Have a look at http://www.woa.com.au/linux/lists/bookkeeping.html for
my review a few months ago. This will also lead you to a few other
pages.
GNU Enterprise is also not ready, but seems to be rocketing along
(getting organised - I lurk the list).
my accountant insisted that I get MYOB, or I'll be doing my GST accounting
on paper.
I've just sold a system with evilware on it for that reasons. Although
people tell me that earlier versions of MYOB will run under wine, no
one has been able to assure me the First Accounts V3.1 or MYOB V10,
which are the latest, also run.
GST is just a ledger entry really. Buying a GST package just automates
that and saves you having to remember to add/make the GST line entry.
The problem here is that no one is saying exactly what paperwork you
have to submit and there is a lot of scaremongering by accounting
package sellers and accountants. This is similar to the advertising
practises of virus software and net nanny software companies.
Accountants, as a class of people, do not rate highly in my books.
They are just as ethical as dodgy business people in screwing their
own customers out of their life savings. To head off outrage - all
responses from indignant accounts can give me the name of that
plantation scheme where masses of accountants recommended it to their
clients, but forgot to mention that they (the accountant) was getting
a nice little commission out of it.
One good thing about MYOB, it is an Australian company.
If you are only after basic accounting, you can trade your $200 tax
voucher for Myob First Accounts V3.1, but check out the MYOB page for
which package they recommend.
And yes, I would like to know if the latest versions run okay under
wine (and win4lin).
David S..
On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, David wrote:
I got my nice shiny new CD from Mr. Costello today
Did every business get their $200 tax voucher with their ABN?
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Re: [SLUG] tax, damn them
DaZZa wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, David wrote:
I got my nice shiny new CD from Mr. Costello today
"How to keep your business records"
Naturally, you need to support the gates hegemony to use it. No option is
supplied. No unix, no mac, nothing. I wonder if they will pay for a
computer for me to run it?
They will. Buy a new computer now, and then it's a total tax deduction -
provided you buy it before june 30.
I understand that this means it is an expense for this year, rather
than being an asset to be depreciated over a number of years (2+)
Mind you, a tax _deduction_ doesn't cover the cost of the machine - at
beast it half covers it - but it's better than nothing.
A tax deduction means that it is a business expenses that can be taken
before you arrive at the figure you pay tax on, rather than after
paying tax. E.G. business use of a vehicle is tax deductable, but
using the train to visit customers is not tax deductable (according to
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Re: [SLUG] tax, damn them
Conrad Parker wrote:
your page notes that GNU Enterprise is based on GnuCash; is this
still the case?
Probably incorrect now.
the GnuCash pages claim that GnuCash is/will be aimed at both
personal finance and small business accounting.
GNU cash has no stock control/inventory, so if that suits your
business, it may be the case.
My major problem when testing GnuCash was that I could never get it to
save anything. After trying three different versions with the same
problem, plus no inventory, I've not been back.
..snip
As Terry said, the GST rules are pretty nightmarish so it looks like
someone will have their work cut out for them implementing them for
GNU Cash/Enterprise ...
Umm, no I said they are unclear.
Basically for me
All purchases = $/110*10 = GST component to GST paid ledger
All sales = subtotal of (item + delivery + handling) *110%, with
10% to GST owed ledger
Every three months GST owed - GST paid = cheque to ATO.
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DaZZa wrote:
...snip
A tax deduction means that it is a business expenses that can be taken
before you arrive at the figure you pay tax on, rather than after
paying tax. E.G. business use of a vehicle is tax deductable, but
using the train to visit customers is not tax deductable (according to
my accountant).
Yeah, but my point is that the deduction only saves you the tax you
_would_ have paid on the amount of money spent - which is, at best, 48%,
and at worst 30 odd percent.
DaZZa
Whilst we are both big and ugly bro's {:-), neither of us is named
Kezza.
Only Kezza gets that sort of lurk.
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Re: [SLUG] Call for new list best-of-slug ?
Sonam Chauhan wrote:
Okay, where is the dummies guide to swish?
Like what exactly does it do?
Does it provide a word searchable index to mail messages?
What does it create? - a html page for my apache to display?
So, I figure it may be quicker to ask and save reinventing the wheel.
Hi Terry: Swish is an indexing engine. It visits web pages and follows links
like web engines do, but only builds a searchable index. It's search interface
is only command line, so Swish needs to be coupled with CGI frontends to work
as a full search engine. There are a few out there like WWWais, and they can
be tailored for our specific circumstance.
Yep, figured all this out since posting.
Now I need a spider that works under linux.
It indexed the some stuff by filesystem in a trial, but barfs on
spidering on html. Apparently the spider is a perl spider for sparc.
.
[terryc@owl terryc]$ head /opt/swish/src/swishspider
#!/local/sparc/bin/perl
use LWP::UserAgent;
use LWP::RobotUA;
use HTTP::Request;
use HTTP::Status;
use HTML::LinkExtor;
if (scalar(@ARGV) != 2) {
print STDERR "Usage: SwishSpider localpath url\n";
[terryc@owl terryc]$
Can fix the perl line okay, but head scratching about the LWP:
:RobotUA; that it doesn't like. "Cannot locate LWP/UserAgent.pm in
@INC..
However we *don't need* to modify/write anything -
I do {:-0 as I'm looking at plugging it onto the SLUG list archive
that I currently maintain.
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Re: [SLUG] Bulletin story (fwd)
Conrad Parker wrote:
On Tue, May 30, 2000 at 08:49:35PM +1000, Jamie Honan wrote:
Would my ten year old daughter who uses hotmail,
plays web games, X based games and railroad tycoon qualify?
hmm. I guess it depends on how good she is at railroad tycoon.
I hope she is too young to come to the games fest.
It's bad enough loosing my pocket money to the 8year old next door in
fish, but loosing at computer games - sheesh. {:-)
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Re: [SLUG] mbox archive of this week's list needed
Jeff Waugh wrote:
On Wed, May 31, 2000, Terry Collins wrote:
Try http://www.woa.com.au/lists/slug/2000/24/24
{:-^) but it is 3.7Mb and I'm only on a 28.8 link.
Thanks Terry, if you can tell me the best time to download it so it won't get
in your way, I'll leave it until then.
Any time during working hours before 4pm seems best.
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[SLUG] Mking copy of the borg's stuff
I need to make a copy of win98 CD for offsite backup purposes.
Is this possible under linux?
Is it as simple as including -I and -J options of mkisofs?
Still complains about ~sbs, ~anaimations, ~help, ~images ~source
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Re: [SLUG] Wrong date stamp and cron
Simon Bryan wrote:
2c
find / on the advanced date and -exec touch or whatever to bring it
back to now
-atime ???
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Sonam Chauhan wrote:
I've setup this before, so I could help out if you decide to do this.
For Hypermail: http://www.hypermail.org
For Swish: http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/SWISH-E/
Okay, where is the dummies guide to swish?
Like what exactly does it do?
Does it provide a word searchable index to mail messages?
What does it create? - a html page for my apache to display?
I've read the stuff that comes from the download, but all the brain
registered was "Whoa - time for a cuppa"
So, I figure it may be quicker to ask and save reinventing the wheel.
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Re: Spam (was Re: [SLUG] $B%O%W%K%s%0B3=P!*!Z#2#4;~4VEp;#HVAH![ (B)
ENTERforNone wrote:
I'm on a lot of mailing lists and as such I expect to get a lot of spam.
I'd rather risk getting spam than risk not getting something important.
I say let everything through and let individuals block when they don't
want (I'm sure someone here knows how to set up procmail or similar).
http://www.woa.com.au/linux/how-tos/sortingmail.html will help you
out.
Thanks to the contributions of SLUG members.
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[SLUG] OT Conecting a Video Camera to a Capture Card
My apologies to those not interested in this, but this is the most
knowledgable area I know and it is relevant to webcams on Linux.
The neighbour has given me a broken video camera, which I would like
to connect to my webcam. Hopefully giving an auto-iris function.
The tape motor is broken - is this a lost cause?
I'm thinking the CCD image is actually written to tape, then read by a
separate head for viewing on the TV. If it is any clue, I can not see
anything through the viewfinder.
The video to TV connection is a video signal, not a TV channel -
correct assumption?
I can not pick it up on any of the TV channels and only get a black
signal on the camera socket (black is better than blue, which means no
signal).
Can I use an exabyte tape in the drive?
Shrug - it is the right size.
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Re: [SLUG] Can Linuxcare stay afloat?
Charlie Brady wrote:
...snip...
Don't any of you have lynx handy?
No, but to be honest, this is ZDnet we are talking about here. I'm
surprised that others bothered to load another browser really.
My excuse was that my eyes found the 'contact' link and a real live
intelligent person responded rather fast. I actually had to go and
have a cuppa I was so shocked. {:-).
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Re: [SLUG] Telnet with RedHat 6.2
George Ferizis wrote:
Hi all,
I just did a fresh install of redhat 6.2, booted up and
found that i could not telnet into that machine, not from itself
or from another machine.
As a user or root?
Linux will not allow a telnet as root by default.
I also noticed no telnetd, or inetd running and no
inetd.conf in the /etc directory...is this normal for linux sorry
I'm used to unix
In Linux, these services do not run continuously unless you set them
to do so. The default is they are invoked by inetd.
My RH6.0 has a inetd.conf, but I will not speak for RH6.2.
Try find /etc -name *inet*.
It is also a good idea to look for conf.file as well as file.conf if
you are not used to a distro.
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Re: [SLUG] Re: meedja beatups on virii
Jobst Schmalenbach wrote:
snip...
It didnt as I did enough. ^
*You* said it yourself |
* spend time educating staff
* getting filters
* do scans
* install viri detecting software
* spend time doing all of the above
ALL COSTS MONEY *I* as a company owner have to spend.
I rather spend that on projects/research with some of my emplyees
and have some REAL FUN!
aarh, this comes down to what YOUR business is about. If it is having
fun whilst making money, but you are not worried about long term
survival, fine.
If you have an eye on long term survival, anti-viral actions are
probably a good idea, like network security.
However, for any linux based business, this is an easy matter {:-).
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Re: [SLUG] Q: Where to get multi-modem cards?
Mark Turner wrote:
What's the good oil on multi-modem cards?
Moretonbay sell one that has been supported under Linux for a while.
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Re: [SLUG] Re: Spam SLUG NG
Jeff Waugh wrote:
..snip...
We don't have immediate access to the configuration of our mailing list at
the moment, but I'll certainly keep this in mind for SLUG_NG, when we'll be
able to do *anything*. ;)
If you can do it on the ISO, fine, but not on the .jp domain.
We have a lurker from there who has been helpful recently.
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Re: [SLUG] Pcmcia Troubles
George Vieira wrote:
It would be alot better if the email clients were smart enough to figure out
that the format is HTML
Umm, you missed my point - why should the client have to know anything
about HTML? HTML is not a standard for email.
...snip
bit of a pain really isn't it..
Nope, we just stick to the standard of text.
It is a bit like knocking on my front door. If you do so politely, I
might answer it.
If you do it with a sledge hammer, I might redistribute my parking
place for my kichen knives to under your rib cage {:-).
The fact that Microsoft has tried to sledge hammer html into email,
invites a similar response.
I just generally delete html mails in my mailbox and any lists without
bothering to read them.
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Re: [SLUG] Pcmcia Troubles
Aravind Naidu wrote:
...snip..
Please note that the discussion is on prettying up email messages and the
appropriate format for it, if one wants to do it.
Hmm, the messages I'm receiving say "Re: [SLUG] Pcmcia Troubles"
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[SLUG] Re: meedja beatups on virii
Dave Fitch wrote:
...snip...
You think differently if you looking after a company and
50% of that company is yours..
what if I tell you that the company I work for did
nothing at all about it and wasn't affected at all?
I agree with Dave, a good company should not have been affected in any
way shape or form.
I view the media beatup as the boys getting together to cover their
incompetent arses. "It okay if your company gets hits because everyone
else is."
The truth is if your company is hit, it didn't spend enough on
preventative measures, like educating staff, filters, scans, etc.
The old fogies on genealogy lists were hit by the melissa virus and
half the lists's traffic went to waffle about viruses. "They" got
themselves organised and made sure thery were virus aware and could
cope with virus.
Now whenever some "genie newbie" says "virus" they instantly get a
raft of private emails telling them where to check if it is a real
virus and where to get anti-viral stuff, updates and what to do with
it.
The result - I ave received NO, NIL, ZILCH viruses from people on the
genie lists.
If they can do it, there is no reason any company with competent staff
couldn't have done it.
End of case.
It really is a bit like the Darwin Awards (for people who remove
themselves and their genes from the human race through their own
stupidity http://www.officialdarwinawards.com, or
http://www.darwinawards.com) - if your company gets a virus outbreak,
it really is your own stupidity and it deserves to go out of business.
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Re: [SLUG] Pcmcia Troubles
Aravind Naidu wrote:
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on top off this if we had a different mail protocol for formatting
of email (to make it pretty) we had no troubles at all
You mean an formatter, not a protocol...
What is wrong with HTML for prettying up your mail ?
Because people end up sending a pretty message that lacks any
substance and abuses everyones eyeballs.
It is the universal standard
TEXT is the universal standard - anything worth saying can be said in
text, plain and simple.
and any half decent browser should be able to read it and is
available on all platfoms
It is NOT available in all decent mailers, nor should it have to be.
Mail was around before html. A mailer should be send in text as
default and anything else should only be between consenting adults.
... It is better than using RTF, or (gulp) .doc
Of course, for mailing lists etc., it is not polite to send HTML. You send
HTML only if you know your target's email client.
Perhaps we can automatically ditch any email in HTMl - that would be a
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Re: [SLUG] tv tuners
Dean Hamstead wrote:
in one are good.
I saw a 4 in one capture card, on allthings(?) but it only has svideo
are there multisession cards?
I know of no multi-tv capture card. You would need to buy one for each
channel you want to stream.
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Re: [SLUG] What's YOUR favourite distribution?
Russell Davie wrote:
On the PC User CD-ROM, March 2000, Corel distro is a huge 320MB achive
called cdl-1.0a-free.iso.
I'm stuffed if I know how to undo this independently of the Corel
proprietry program, any suggestions?
Lookup the cd-writing howto.
After it tells you how to make an iso, it also tells you how to mount
this iso to check it. Try mounting the iso the same way.
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Re: [SLUG] Am I relaying?
Ken Yap wrote:
I would like to know exactly what is going on. I sus goofy and mate
are using me to spam AOL (considering the crap AOL have sent me over
the years, who cares, but the principle is what is important).
Hmm, not a good idea to be blase about relaying spam whether you like
AOL or not, you might get blacklisted and then you won't be able to
deliver your mail to sites using RBL blocking.
Well I'm not blase about relaying, but am a bit concerned about the
arrogance of some of these self appointed, beligerant guardians. It is
about time they got off their high horse and realise that all they are
doing is fuelling an arms race to the benefit of a few big companies.
Linux has been taken over by the big and powerful and these guys are
at the best stupid dupes in enhancing the money grab by these big
bastards. All they are doing is enforcing an arms race that you have
to upgrade every bloody week, because if you don't we will black list
you. (Yep, my version of sendmail is too old for all the www guides
people sent me {:-( = another upgrade).
Frankly, linux hasn't improved my productivity. Almost everytime I
reach a critical point in some work I'm doing for a client, there is
some reason I have to upgrade some app on linux to fix some emergency
that has popped up.
So now, after having been through the sendmail book a number of times
for various reasons and finding each time that it is a frustrating
experience because first of all you have to guess the jargon to use
the index, then you find out that much of it is not indexed, then the
explanation is in the high stratosphere, and then there are no
examples, and when you do get examples, they are either so bloody
simple, outdated or irrelevant to the real world.
(BTW - have O'Reilly authors actually started to give real work
examples in their books in the last few years?)
(and just to make it clear - I do not want to hear about qmail, etc -
same problems)
And this emergency I have some self appointed thought police standing
over me with the threat of blacklisting.
Has anyone pointed out to these people just exactly what they are
doing?
Do they give a fuck?
Or are they on an ego and power trip to their own stimulation?
Instead of being screwed by Bill Gates, I've now got a whole raft of
them queueing up for my money ably assisted by the thought police. A
few of you need to read about the frog in slowly warming water
experiment to understand this (Basically it thought everything was
great until it was cooked).
At least with Microsoft, I haven't been forced to upgrade my operating
system for 10 years and it would have been less expensive to do all
woa.com.au stuff on OS/2.
BTW - thanks for the tests and url's.
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[SLUG] XT I/O Board - how to drive showpost under Linux
Hello Sluggers
I have an XT board that drives a dual led display (jargon block - like
the old speed display on your case).
HW - how can I find out it's I/O address, IRQ, etc?
Does anyone know of any code that I might be able to mod/use to find
out it's address and later drive it.
Basically, the board was a Showpost board built by Custom Built
Computers in 1993 and it show hexadecimal codes as the system powered
up and ran it self test. The codes were particular to each
motherboard.
I'm considering using it as a generic display board of some sort, say
cpu temp, case temp, time or the hour, etc.
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Re: [SLUG] OT: why the .com.au?
Matthias Oertli wrote:
This is completely off-topic but I'm still interested as to why we
have domain names like 'domain.com.au', 'domain.net.au', etc. instead
of just 'domain.au' like a lot of other countries? Wouldn't shorter be
better?
Well, that is because there are more than one likely meaning of a
name.
For instance, if I'm first to register collins.com, then stuff all the
other people's whose last name is collins and bad luck to collins
book, collins dictionaries, collins welding and erection supplies,
etc.
Under the system that every country has (?), you can have
.com.au (or .co.uk, .co.hk, co,jp,) a commercial entity name collins
.org.au a organisation for researching the collins name,
.asn.au for the collins wild party association,
.net.au a welconnedct nethead (two name distinct servers isn't it)
terry.collins.id.au which is not quiet how it works (The revhead
rumble can explain {:-)
Now, the obvious arguments is that Collins books should really be
www.collinsbooks.com.au, but as my full business name is wombat
outdoor adventures, I can get away with woa.com.au
It really started with .com. .net. .org. asn, etc in the US, who don't
have a country code because they started the thing (like britain
doesn't label its postage stamps).
Even now there are bitter arguements about having more divisions, like
.frm, .bus, wkr, etc, etc,
Not convinced?
Open the yellow pages and start to write out internet URL for every
business there.
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Re: [SLUG] XT I/O Board - how to drive showpost under Linux
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I believe Microgram Computers (www.mgram.com.au) still
sell something similar - might not be exactly the same
thing, but could be worth talking to them.
This was a custom built by Custom Built Computers.
Anyhow, Ken Yap has twigged to what it is and once a gain enlightened
me.
BTW - I actually have one of the first I/O boards that Microgram
started selling. Still used occassionally for a fiddle and project
development.
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Re: [SLUG] Re: OT: why the .com.au?
Robert Maldon wrote:
On Thu, 18 May 2000, Rick Welykochy wrote:
Heh heh ... a real can of worms that one. The only system that seems
to work is awarding names on a first come first served basis, but
only where there is a demonstrable connection between the domain name and
the owner of the domain name.
The real issue with domain names is not really ownership but how you go about
resolving name clashes. e.g. Terry Collins wants "www.collins.com" and so
does Collins Bookshop.
An alternative to the current system is the ".id.au" domain (see www.id.au).
This alternative allows the creation of flora-and-fauna subdomains, such as
"gumtree.id.au" and "koala.id.au". The Collins clash could be resolved by
giving Terry Collins the domain "collins.gumtree.id.au" and Collins Bookshop
the domain "collins.koala.id.au".
absolutely not, I want collins.wombat.id.au {:-).
The only disadvantage I can think of with the above alternative scheme is that
it will take longer to guess "collins.koala.id.au" rather than
"collins.com.au". (And a company probably would want a more professional
sounding name than "koala.id.au").
For a company, this is what it is really about. Short, sharp and
easily remembered or guessed. www.woa.com.au is a good guess for
www.wombatoutdooradventures.com.au, which is too long to type in.
Variations like wombatoa, or wombatoutdoors, etc are not desireable.
The problem with the id.au flora and fauna is just that. How do you
know which floar/fauna someone is under? How do you find out the
possible options?, etc.
Unless someone can go terry.collins.id.au and get through, a lot of
its use has gone.
Then we are still back to the same problem of the first terry.collins
gets the id and the other one in perth just misses out (we actually
correspond for genie stuff - no known relationship). Not to mention
the two other terry collins's around campbelltown (who have suddenly
disappeared {:-).
Who gets what is a big problem.
I suppose something will evolve.
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[SLUG] Am I relaying?
Hello Folks
My mailer has been hit from a number of places in the last couple of
days and I'm not sure if my box is relaying. I thought I had made sure
that this was possible.
Can someone interpret this section of my maillog?
There seems to be two sections (two relays from aol 152.163.224.35/69)
and two other posters from the same net (goofy.dnt.net 206.221.239.176
and apathy.sexspectrum.com 206.221.239.40).
Goofy and one relay@aol had a go yesterday. Now I have goofy and mate
with two relays at aol having a go.
I would like to know exactly what is going on. I sus goofy and mate
are using me to spam AOL (considering the crap AOL have sent me over
the years, who cares, but the principle is what is important).
cat hmm
May 18 12:38:54 eagle sendmail[19025]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR: putoutmsg
(cissus.woa.com.au): error on output channel
sending "500 Command unrecognized: "visit the new Barely 18
section!br"": Broken pipe
May 18 12:38:54 eagle sendmail[19025]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR: putoutmsg
(cissus.woa.com.au): error on output channel
sending "500 Command unrecognized: "br"": Broken pipe
May 18 12:38:54 eagle sendmail[19025]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR: putoutmsg
(cissus.woa.com.au): error on output channel
sending "500 Command unrecognized: "a
href="http://hugetits.st/huge/"Click Here To Enter!/a/font"":
Broken pipe
May 18 12:38:54 eagle sendmail[19025]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR: putoutmsg
(cissus.woa.com.au): error on output channel
sending "500 Command unrecognized: "/body"": Broken pipe
May 18 12:38:54 eagle sendmail[19025]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR: putoutmsg
(cissus.woa.com.au): error on output channel
sending "500 Command unrecognized: "/html"": Broken pipe
May 18 12:38:54 eagle sendmail[19025]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR: putoutmsg
(cissus.woa.com.au): error on output channel
sending "500 Command unrecognized: "."": Broken pipe
May 18 12:38:54 eagle sendmail[19011]: MAA19009: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
delay=00:00:15, xdelay=00:00:14, mailer=esmtp, relay=zb.mx.aol.com.
[152.163.224.34], stat=Sent (OK)
May 18 12:38:54 eagle sendmail[19032]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR: putoutmsg
(cissus.woa.com.au): error on output channel
sending "250 eagle.woa.com.au Hello cissus.woa.com.au
[192.168.27.251], pleased to meet you": Broken pipe
May 18 12:38:55 eagle sendmail[19038]: MAA19038: SYSERR: putoutmsg
(cissus.woa.com.au): error on output channel sending "250
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender ok": Broken pipe
May 18 12:38:55 eagle sendmail[19038]: MAA19038: SYSERR: putoutmsg
(cissus.woa.com.au): error on output channel sending "250
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Recipient ok": Broken pipe
[terryc@owl terryc]$
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[SLUG] MYOB under Wine
Hello Folks
I'm after some feedback on running MYOB on wine under Linux.
Does it work?
It is reliable?
The scenario is that I have three businesses that are heeding their
accountants' advice to buy a computer and MYOB to cater for GST.
Personally I think another accountant would be cheaper, but they still
want to follow their accountants' advice and it means three sales of
new computers.
So, it is an ideal opportunity to put out Linux (all three are
computer newbies), rather than that other OS.
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Re: [SLUG] Games Fest Information
Jason Rennie wrote:
Hi ppls,
Slug is running a games-fest on the 8th of July.
Location?
The games-fest will consist of a number of presentations, and of course a
lan party. Games to be played are still being decided. Any ideas ?
Just 2c, but unless the presentations are on first and early, you are
going to have to put the lan somewhere else. there is no way you are
going to get games players to be quiet.
My style of games are CivCTP, freeciv and Railroad TycoonII. I also
have MythII, which I think is networkable(?)
Given i have the task of organising such an event, i am looking for people
to do the following.
1. Supply some networking gear. The more the better. Email me if you have
gear you can bring.
Well, the thicknet thinnet spine and drop cables. AUI fan out box,
bnc/thinnet fan out box, an 2x 8 and a 12 port UTP10 hubs and loan a
few network cards on the day.
Hint: SLUG is ALWAYS on the look out for donations of old networking
gear.
2. Do a talk. I currently have a talk on AI games programming lined up.
I'm looking for nay games realted style of talk. Eg, Run down of different
linux games commercial and free. Have you written a game ? Do a
presentation on it, and its technical features. Game server admin talk ? A
talk on games under wine ?
3. Do a talk on setting up 3D hardware under linux. I really need on of
these.
4. Can anybody supply some servers for the day, ala quake etc.
Can someone explain who needs software for CivCTP, RailRoad Tycoon and
MythII (is is network playable) as these are more my style of games.
5. Would anybody like to supply a server with software packages on them ?
What packages do you want on it?
Space is not a problem, but downloads are slow and need planning.
I guess I could bring the latest freeciv.
Please email me off list if you would like to contribute one of the above
(or something else you think of) to the games fest.
If you are a person who can supply some of the above things, then entry to
the games fest will be free, and you will defiently get a spot on the day.
Numbers for the games-fest will be limited by space.
I replied to the list to tell people there are some other games played
other than doom and quake {:-). It is going to be an interesting day
to see how well people go in real mode, rather than cheat mode {:-).
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Re: [SLUG] Line Of Sight Microwave links and stuff
Rev Simon Rumble wrote:
On Sat, 13 May 2000, Terry Collins wrote:
Notice, I leave out the word
successfully as I don't think the CLUG people live on this stuff.
A guy at Sydney Uni has the original WaveLAN cards pointed from his place
in Surry Hills to the Uni and has done for a few years. Successfully.
I understand distance is about 200 metres and it is occassional
evening use, but the owner is very happy as no $ and not hooked on
performance.
Many of the CLUG people have active links.
I wasn't aware that people were using them regularly for their
internet connection.
...snip...
Class license for the WaveLAN range in spread spectrum. No paperwork.
See Dept of Communications and look for class licenses.
I wasn't talking about wavelan style stuff. I'm talking about all the
other stuff. I know fully what wavelan can do in a factory and it
isn't impressive although those aerials are not directional. CLUG said
2Kms max on home built aerials for wavelan style system, so to get a
SLUG NET net happening over Sydney, we need some higher strength
backbone.
Is it really just a matter of buying the kit for the higher power
stuff and switching it on?
If this is just wild west country with no law involved, how do we test
for and sort out interference problems?
To set it up here, there is a little bit on money involved and I
really can not afford to have surprises rendering it wasted money.
~$300 for 12m pole, (about 6m above roofline - can someone advise if
I'll have hassles?)
~$2,000? for higher performance end (11Mb?) to someone in the north,
and
~$500 for each wavelan style link at this end.
Whilst it is okay to spend this for business with a business
justification, it can be rather expensive on a hobby that doesn't come
off.
It is important people keep in mind the three options;
1) ham radio, (from 300 baud to 9,600 baud), $3,000 and commitment to
getting WIA license,
2) wavelan (about 2Mb/sec for 2Kms max), say $500/end,
3) microwave (?Mb/s to ?Mb/s at what cost per end for what distance).
For the hobby/interest, we have pricing a bit like commercial games.
At $200/end, people are okay, $500/end most are no way and $1,000/end
is death to the idea.
An idea for a Slug activity. If anyone can come up with;
1) a couple of laptops, card and aerial of whate ever wavelength
we want to test,
2) various people can come up with a building top(s) they have
access to,
3) a couple of mobile phones, and
4) I can provide the van with platform on roof, ladder and 3-5M
pole to poke an aerial up in various locations.
So we could go around Sydney (or where ever the tall building(s)
is/are ) and run some tests.
We might come out with a SLUG Net backbone plan.
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[SLUG] 2.4 GHz Grid Antenna
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This came off the x.net.au site and is the aerial I'm now seeing go up
around here (I think for ATT's microwave TV service).
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Re: [SLUG] Line Of Sight Microwave links and stuff
Anthony Rumble wrote:
Im looking at putting in a Microwave link between my office
(In Five Dock) and home (Croydon.. next suburb).. it's not far.. barly 2
kms..
Any ideas where one could get a topographical map? So I can work out how
high I would need to make a mast to get line of sight?
I have no idea about this kind of thing..
My advice is to skip the idea and consider;
a)PAPL - the security tie line stuff
b)dual cable to the same provider and VPN.
c)ISDN dial up for the big transfers with modem perm link as normal.
Maps: http://www.lic.gov.au should (i say should) have a list of major
map retailers. I had a look at the Sydney 1:100K map, but that area is
mostly a sea of red and it is hard to see the contour lines. Five Dock
is about 20metres height and Concord looks to be about 40 metres (very
unsure on this one - i guessing a random 50 was a spot height)
You may pick up a 1:25K series at a local newsagent, if they carry it
for some reason.
Most probably you will want the orthophotographic 1:4K series which
will probably only be available from Bridge St(?) in the city (they
plan print on request).
Stand on the roof of one of the buildings in question and with a pair
of binoculars, see if you can see the other. If you can, then it might
be a goer. Microwave links are great if you have clear line of site.
If you have to put up towers, you run into some BIG problems.
Council permission - will council allow you to do it in that
area/site. My local council, in their wisdom, will not allow a 2m TV
sat dish here, only the little dinner plate MDS TV size. Goodness
knows what they think of the 'enormous' bbq grids that I think ATT
are suddenly popping up. Most hams here have enormous trouble with
council and just do it ("it has always been there {:-).
Tower design - these have to be designed to withstand very high winds
and are either very robust or require large areas of land for bracing
wires.
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Re: [SLUG] Line Of Sight Microwave links and stuff
Jon Biddell wrote:
Just a reminder for anyone interested of the page to register your
interest in WaveLan/Ham at
http://www.woa.com.au/linux/lists/slugwirelesslan.html. If I can get
some gear, it will be the theme for a day at Macathur SIG activities
sometime.
Broken link ???
AARGH! I've done it again
Try http://www.woa.com.au/linux/lists/slugwireless.html
and I've put a temp link in on the incorrect one.
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Re: [SLUG] Line Of Sight Microwave links and stuff
Anthony Rumble wrote:
A small Yagi, suitably alligned at each end, connected to the WaveLan
card(s) will probably work at low speeds - what output power do they have
(might need to boost it slightly)
I've been told you can get up to 2MB/s over 8kms with this setup.
With what hardware under what conditions? That is the $64,000 question
I've found the link for the ISP http://www.x.net.au.
Whilst the first page makes it sound like some community initiative,
it looks very much like a commercial company is behind all of this to
make money by acting as an ISP.
However, the questions is; Does anyone understand it enough to tell
the rest of us how to do it here. It has to be based on something
other than wavelan like stuff to reach 30kms.
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Ian Tester wrote:
On Sat, 13 May 2000, David Fisher wrote:
The maps are produced by the Central Mapping Authority at Bathurst.
CMA? I don't think they've been called that for many years.
It's now the LIC - Land (and?) Information Centre. That might help if
you're looking them up :)
I believe LIC is now their trading name and they are now a major part
of the Dept of Information Technology (well, they were a fortnight
ago, but you know how government departments restructure every month)
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Colin Humphreys wrote:
We were going to do this sort of thing for our Internet connection at the
office as a last resort...
...snip
It all fell apart for us when we discovered that it was going to be at least
$4pa to\
rent a spot on a city building for the other end
Two factors in this that I know of
1) Someone in the 70's (?) recognised the potential and went around
and purchased the rights to the roof tops in Sydney and North Sydney,
etc, so there is a monopoly.
2) as Land Information Centre(LIC) and Land Titles Office(LTO) found
out, the end kit installation is cheap, but running cable up high rise
ducts can be very expensive.
LTO is in Queens Sq at north end of Hyde Park with no problems to
roof, but LIC is at Remington/new AMP building at south end of Hyde
Park on 12th floor in a 28 floor building. I think the price to run to
the roof was about $15K four years ago, which meant it would never
happen.
Even though the idea was sound, it was PHB from start to finish.
Each site provided internet access (multiple DDS) and was planning on
www sales and each site was on a different telephone exchange, so a
microwave link meant both could continue operating if either exchange
went down.
PHB: "We'll stick it out the window"
I: "I doubt very much if you will be able to just position it outside
the window as the window cleaners will knock it off with their
platform or it will get tangled in the cables."
Building Management Co: "No Way"
PHB: "We'll put it inside the window, You can see them from here"
I:"No, you will not be able to just point it out the window as
reflection will microwave the staff (who sit 4' away)".
Office Manager:(@10 on volume) "what does that fusching idiot * *
think he his doing. There is no way my staff are going to work
anywhere near any microwave device".
PHB1:"We are going to run coax to the roof"
I: "Why not run fibre optic and allow for future capacity"
PHB2:"We have now decided to run Cat 5 to the roof"
I: "Is it within Cat 5 limits? Why not run fibre optic? The difference
in cost is negligible compared to the labour of getting it there"
PHB2: "Far too expensive"
First quote ~ $15K and end of the matter.
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[SLUG] Linux supported Network Cards
Does anyone have the url to the list of linux supported network cards
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[SLUG] Macarthur SIG/LUG of SLUG breaths
Okay Folks
My proposal to the SLUG committee for a sub-group of SLUG to do stuff
out around Macarthur (Camden, Campbelltown +) has been accepted.
Is any one interested in being involved?
Let me know what form you think it should take?
I had in mind something to complement existing SLUG activites, so I
was NOT planning on another series of meetings and talks, or fests,
although the mob out this way might organise a fest a year or
something.
To kick it off, I was planning on having a Saturday, once a month, at
my place, which would probably have a theme for the day and where
anything goes so long as it is Linux related.
Facilities would be mown grass, tarp/tent if needed and some inside
space, some work bench space, with soldering iron (which one depends
on your skill and yes I have from a plumber's special down), barbeque,
networking, internet connection (only 28.8K - no cable out here),
electricity, printers, plotters and cuppa stuff.
Some of the themes we could easily have are;
ancient networking (for those who wonder what thick net is. I've
thrown the arcnet out and I might be able to score some token ring if
you are really keen),
device drivers (I have a generic i/o card and other stuff, xinu on
286's is a good wayh to start),
fitting extra fans (knibbler and hole saw available),
cable making,
music,
games,
hands on X video timings (you can't make these old monitors any
worse),
monitor repairs (but if you do, we can fix them),
overclocking a 486 (http://totl.net/Eunuch/index.html looks
interesting),
building a scsi system for those who have never done it,
setting up netboot stuff,
building a firewall and testing it,
setting up a surveillance system,
samba with clients (well 1 win95 and 1 NT box)
1,001 uses for servo motors,
setting up network print servers,
plus the usual installation and configuration and other stuff.
The only catch is that you will need to be a SLUG member. Whilst the
SLUG committee would like things to be a bit more open, I think it is
reasonable to ask people to join SLUG after an inital visit, if you
are not already a SLUG member.
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DaZZa wrote:
On Wed, 10 May 2000, Terry Collins wrote:
Feedback!
Shit, I'd be in it, 'cept yer on the wrong side of the city! :)
Well, that was why I'm interested in making it a Saturday, as if the
theme is interesting, people might make the trip for the day (/or
evening). Some people might only be interested in a few hours and some
topics might lend them selves to that.
Other topics might take a day to really get your teeth into, like
hacking a linux system, then patching it, then hacking it some more,
and so on, or today we are going to write a generic driver for this
servo controller, etc, or solve this coding problem, etc.
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Re: [SLUG] Re: unsolicited application for work
Robert
Robert Smith wrote:
this is an open apology to Mr Terry Collins
You didn't have to apologise and you didn't have to post an apology to
the list.
If someone Bcc's stuff to you, the other addressees do not know it was
sent to you. (Somehow my copy of the message to the slug list has
disappeared and I'll be mortified if that is not the case)
Yep, generally reading stuff over before you press the send button is
a good idea. I've probably done similar in the past.
Sir I am very sorry for accidentally sending my raw voice type without
checking its flown first. In actual fact apart from the application for
work I was meaning that Mr Gates wires provincial and unenlightened.
And being called "provincial and unenlightened" invokes more
associations of mirth than umbrage for me. (it was a long time ago and
the yound lady was most disgusted I didn't find her alluring {:-).
Just make sure you re-read your job apps in future and sorry, but I
just don't have work I can offer.
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[SLUG] More Humour from Bill
http://www.theregister.co.uk/981015-13.html
...snip"
When Scott Winkler of Gartner asked Gates to name Microsoft's three
most important
innovations, he came up with: the development of software according
to common industry
standards [for which read proprietary protocols]; NT; and the
incorporation of
high-volume transaction
capabilities into NT.
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[SLUG] Mounting OS/2 Hard disks under OS/2
Gidday Folks
I need to mount an OS/2 hard disk in a linux system.
Has anyone done it?
it will be
mount -t hpfs /dev/sdd1 /mnt/disk5
Does any one know of any problems, modules to be loaded,etc
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Re: [SLUG] Happy Hax0r Keyboard :)
Paul Robinson wrote:
And considering you can pick up el cheapo kb's for $25
el cheapo keyboards start @ $15.
I can't see myself
going out and spending $130 odd for less keys. Must be the scottish blood
in me :).
My mother claims there are Scottish Jews in our blood, to continue the
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Re: [SLUG] ISUCKEDYOUIN Virus Alert
Matthew Dalton wrote:
Ken Yap wrote:
Decent sized adverts in the dead tree press are very expensive.
Does SLUG have a budget for this kind of thing?
Complete and total waste of money. Why take funds for promoting Linux
and give them to dead-tree sellers?
Sure, adverts are expensive... but it would probably attract people, who
might then become SLUG members. We would have to work out how much we
could spend on an advertisement compared to how many people we would
expect to have join.
Might is the correct word.
Has SLUG decided to get big?
Is SLUG organised to handle large number of newbies?
Are you prepared to organise/help with installfests, etc for these
people?
Whilst other organisations can take this approach, people do not have
to join SLUG, thus you have a critical flaw in recovering the money
you have spent. Most advertising like this is lucky to recover the
cost of the advertising from the first year of membership fees. You
still have to service these people with the membership services(almost
nil for SLUG) and you only 'make' money when they join for subsequent
years (what % of SLuggers are rejoining?)
Putting a press release on the web site (you do mean www.slug.org.au by
this?) is well and good, but it doesn't reach the right audience. You'd
be preaching to the converted.
The best member promotion that SLUG can do is word of mouth. It
generates numbers/people in a reasonably even flow that SLUG can
handle and adapt too.
Press releases can also be emailed to journalists and this would also
promote the SLUG site and people as a source of comment on Linux and
open source happenings. Of course, to make this really happen requires
a group of people who are prepared to take this on as their thing for
SLUG.
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Re: [SLUG] ISUCKEDYOUIN Virus Alert
Ken Yap wrote:
We need a decent sized advert in the SMH (or some other well known
newspaper)
Decent sized adverts in the dead tree press are very expensive.
I agree with Ken that dead-tree adds are very expensive.
They are also fleeting and in a very competitive market and for the
concept you are advancing, very hard to get the message across.
Might be
easier to put out a press release on the web site, saying something like
"we would like to assure users of Linux and similar OSes like *ix and
*BSD that AFAWK there are no vulnerabilities in *x mail readers to the
recent love bug, etc". No need to mention that other OS. Then email a
few journos in the electronic press about it.
"SLUG" could even take the concept further by having a "Virus Free
Email" day, aka installfest + ISP config day. It just requires the
people who are prepared to do the work.
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Re: [SLUG] Happy Hax0r Keyboard :)
Paul Robinson wrote:
At 10:51 AM 8/05/00 +1000, Terry Collins wrote:
Paul Robinson wrote:
And considering you can pick up el cheapo kb's for $25
el cheapo keyboards start @ $15.
Ok ok, so I get not so el cheapo, elcheapo keyboards :)
Chuckle, - it was just my turn to make "that posting".
It is usual when someone posts a price, that some else posts another
msg saying that that is expensive and you can get them for $... and so
on.
haven't had to buy
one in about 3years as I get 2nd hand ones from work if ever I need one.
They chuck em out cos the keys stick and it's just dust under the key.
Clean it out and u get a fully working keyboard again.
Yep, I have about 20 of those in the garage, which is after I stripped
and junked about 30.
When I buy, I buy Honeywell brands for about $40. (no click, but nice,
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Re: [SLUG] ISUCKEDYOUIN Virus Alert
Rachel Polanskis wrote:
1/4 page is only about $300 I think...
WHERE?
Since SLUG is non-profit, you might actually get it cheaper.
Post the same ads in "Icon", PC week and so on..
You are saying these are all $300/quarter page?
A matchboz size was costing my $125/month for a 12 month booking and
that was a "special" (half price) because they wanted to get more
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Re: [SLUG] fitting scsi
Minh Van wrote:
where do the odd 7 or 15 scsi disks go inside a full tower case ? is this
why people buy a VAX ?
As others have said, you can buy an external case, or simply adapt
another tower to hold quite a few devices.\, which is the el cheapo
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Re: [SLUG] Re: O*****k virus: M$ criticized for lack of software security
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The recriminations have begun:
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-1823167.html?tag=st.ne.1002.tgif.ni?st.ne.fd.gif.d
http://linuxtoday.com/stories/21335.html
Hmm, wonder if the disgruntleds will sue. :-)
Who?
Really self inflicted isn't it?
They've know about this situation for years in earlier MS mailers, but
they've failed to develop correct procedures and train staff.
Melissa and the others gave them fair and ample warning, but obviously
they have done zilch to ensure it doesn't happen again.
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Re: [SLUG] fitting scsi
Ian Tester wrote:
On Sun, 7 May 2000, Terry Collins wrote:
Minh Van wrote:
where do the odd 7 or 15 scsi disks go inside a full tower case ? is this
why people buy a VAX ?
As others have said, you can buy an external case, or simply adapt
another tower to hold quite a few devices.\, which is the el cheapo
way..
But don't you have to be careful about the cable length? I imagine this
is one of the reasons why LVD and Ultra-2-Wide (?) were developed.
Yep,, but two towers side by side with a 0.25 m scsi cable between
them should not be a problem. The work would be to mod a cheap 7
outlet scsi cable (~$20) by adding extra spacers to save on wiggle.
Hmm, is there a minimum scsi tap separation?
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Re: [SLUG] Future Fests
Grant Parnell wrote:
...snipp
---GRiP---
P.S. That reminds me... I should have a go at repairing some old
monitors of mine.
does anyone have some url's on how to go about this?
even dead tree material.
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Re: [SLUG] Linux Mice !
Jeff Waugh wrote:
gawd
As long as you can get used to a mouse with no balls (boom, boom), you'll be
right. The Explorer version is better weighted than the normal one.
It has five buttons, which can come in handy, and for those interested in
getting it to work in various versions of X:
Can someone tell me what you actually do with five mouse buttons?
Either stick a keyboard on the machine or forget it.
I'd go to a digitizing table or stylus pad for multiple buttons.
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Re: [SLUG] Linux Mice !
Matt wrote:
I kinda want a traditional mouse at the same time (go search for "sun 3
button mouse") .. neat :)
Oh well, lemmie know what you think guys :)
A two button mouse gives you three button with dual click.
You can adjust the timeout to 75 if you are finger slow like me.
I've still got a stock of two button serial stuff to wear out before I
buy anything else.
Shit-on-the-ball (rollers) is a generic problem with all real mice
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Re: [SLUG] Shared calendar
James Wilkinson wrote:
On Thu, 04 May 2000, Peter Rundle generated:
It needs to allow users to share their calendars, invite others
to meetings, accept or decline an invitation, create an event
and search the participants calendars to find a place where
all are free to attend. Oh and preferably it should support
downloading to Palm V's and the users should be authenticated
from our Ldap server. Not much to ask really :-)
What ever happened to plain old email? Sounds like a lot of MS bloat to
me ;)
Naah, MS Sched I hate to say is a good product if you are chasing
people for meetings.
You can look at their bookings and pick a free time for a meet. (They
still get to say yay/nay), but I haven't found anything else close.
Don't know about ICAL.
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Re: [SLUG] SNMP
Matt Allen wrote:
Hi All,
I was just wondering if anyone knows if i can get SNMP to report traffic
for each "domain" accessed on 1 machine, ie im virtual hosting with
apache and want to monitor traffic to each site.
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I don't know what the state of play now is.
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Re: [SLUG] Linux Mice !
Jon Biddell wrote:
Either stick a keyboard on the machine or forget it.
I'd go to a digitizing table or stylus pad for multiple buttons.
What sort, Terry ? I have an Acecad A1212 that I want to press into service.
I don't know of a digi driver for linux.
My yum cha will work as a ms mouse, but I like the board to screen
mapping that other OS gives for some stuff.
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Re: [SLUG] SLUGgers response to RMS on Slashdot?
Van Ly wrote:
...snip...
Anyway, _glory_ to the guy for all he's done. I think there's a
decreasing turnout for the RMS talks coz they're all the same judging
from what others have told me.
RMS makes you think and most people want mogadon infotainment, not
thought provoking stuff.
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