[sniffer] Surprising missed spam

2004-09-13 Thread Agid, Corby
Title: Surprising missed spam






Hello,


I was surprised recently by some spam that got through without getting caught by the sniffer. We've been getting some plain text messages that have obvious spam words in the subject line. For example, a plain text message with horny teenagers came through. The content was also very spammy, but all plain text. I tried sending myself a few messages with standard spam phrases and none of them tripped any sniffer rules.

Am I missing something?


Corby





Re: [sniffer] Surprising missed spam

2004-09-13 Thread Pete McNeil
On Monday, September 13, 2004, 7:22:03 PM, Corby wrote:

AC Hello,

AC I was surprised recently by some spam that got through
AC without getting caught by the sniffer.   We've been getting some
AC plain text messages that have obvious spam words in the subject
AC line.   For example, a plain text message with horny teenagers
AC came through.  The content was also very spammy, but all plain
AC text.   I tried sending myself a few messages with standard spam
AC phrases and none of them tripped any sniffer rules.

AC Am I missing something?

Can you zip up some examples and send them to me?
I'm researching this issue right now and I need more data.

Thanks,
_M

PS: A number of word / phrase based rules have been dropped from the
core rule base due to false positives - not many, but this might
explain some of what you're seeing - I will know more when I have some
examples. If that's the case I can always put the rules back in for
your local rule base.






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Re: [sniffer] Surprising missed spam

2004-09-13 Thread Matt




Corby,

Personally, I'm a fan of leaving the generic stuff out due to the
potential of false positives. Those of us that are using Sniffer in
addition to other spam blocking mechanisms can afford to lose some
Sniffer hits on such phrases because they will be picked up by other
means almost all of the time. Including such phrases however would
increase our false positive rate without a measurable benefit in spam
capture rates. I have even asked Pete to remove some phrase hits from
my own rulebase for exactly this reason.

Matt



Agid, Corby wrote:

  
  
  Surprising missed spam

  Hello,
  
  I was surprised recently by some spam
that got through without getting caught by the sniffer. We've been
getting some plain text messages that have obvious spam words in the
subject line. For example, a plain text message with "horny
teenagers" came through. The content was also very spammy, but all
plain text. I tried sending myself a few messages with standard spam
phrases and none of them tripped any sniffer rules.
  Am I missing something?
  
  Corby
  


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[sniffer] Version 2-3.0i2 release.

2004-09-13 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Sniffer Folks,

  Please find interim update 2 at the following link:

  
http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Betas/MessageSniffer2-3.0i2-Distribution.zip

  This distribution patches a hole in the FilterChain module of the
  scanner. In prior versions it was possible for the unexpected
  presence of a 'null' character to prevent the remainder of a message
  from being scanned. In theory (not yet proven) this could cause some
  rules not to fire on a message even though the rules would be
  present in the rule base.

  This is a minor adjustment which has tested well on our servers. We
  will be making this the official distribution after a little more
  testing. No problems have been observed or reported so far.

Thanks,
_M

Pete McNeil (Madscientist)
President, MicroNeil Research Corporation
Chief SortMonster (www.sortmonster.com)



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RE: [sniffer] Version 2-3.0i2 release.

2004-09-13 Thread Keith Johnson
Pete,
  I take it this can be run without the persistent mode?  Thanks for the aid.
 
Keith

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Subject: [sniffer] Version 2-3.0i2 release.



Hello Sniffer Folks,

  Please find interim update 2 at the following link:

  
http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Betas/MessageSniffer2-3.0i2-Distribution.zip

  This distribution patches a hole in the FilterChain module of the
  scanner. In prior versions it was possible for the unexpected
  presence of a 'null' character to prevent the remainder of a message
  from being scanned. In theory (not yet proven) this could cause some
  rules not to fire on a message even though the rules would be
  present in the rule base.

  This is a minor adjustment which has tested well on our servers. We
  will be making this the official distribution after a little more
  testing. No problems have been observed or reported so far.

Thanks,
_M

Pete McNeil (Madscientist)
President, MicroNeil Research Corporation
Chief SortMonster (www.sortmonster.com)



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Re[2]: [sniffer] Version 2-3.0i2 release.

2004-09-13 Thread Pete McNeil
On Monday, September 13, 2004, 10:20:06 PM, Keith wrote:

KJ Pete,
KJ   I take it this can be run without the persistent mode?  Thanks for the aid.

Yes. It is no different than the current version except for the patch.

_M




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