RE: Re[2]: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
Are they a valid reseller, sniffer-folks?? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KevinSent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 8:00 PMTo: sniffer@SortMonster.comSubject: Re: Re[2]: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price! After posting this, another reseller pm me their renewal rate of $269. I didn't know Sniffer had another reseller besides Declude.Anyways, for those who are interested and want to save money, it's https://www.computerhouse.com/ccsecure.html At 01:21 PM 12/28/2005, you wrote: Can we renew at declude.com since their pricing is $292.50? I assume their prices will increase on Jan 1, 2006 too.This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html
RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
I said the same thing, and the response was, basically, We haven't raised the price in a long time, we need the money, like it or lump it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Koontz Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:57 PM To: sniffer@SortMonster.com Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price! Pete, why over a 50% increase? That seems rather drastic -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete McNeil Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 12:42 PM To: sniffer@sortmonster.com Subject: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price! Hello Sniffer folks, This is just a friendly reminder that prices will be going up January 1. You can add a year to your SNF subscription at the current price if you renew before January 1. Details are here: https://www.armresearch.com/message-sniffer/forms/form-renewal.asp Thanks, _M Pete McNeil (Madscientist) President, MicroNeil Research Corporation Chief SortMonster (www.sortmonster.com) Chief Scientist (www.armresearch.com) This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html
RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
Yeah, what he said! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Koontz Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 2:42 PM To: sniffer@SortMonster.com Cc: 'Pete McNeil' Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price! Thanks for the explaination. While this is all fine and good, the reality is that many IT shops are on fixed budgets outside of their control. I can justify a 10-15% increase to our CFO, but over 50% will get shot down immediately. The fact that you haven't raised prices in years is noble, but if you need additional revenue, you should phase the increases in over a period of time, or a modest increase each year. Some customers simply can not turn up the cash buckets into over-drive whenever you deem you need a substantial cash influx. You've got a great product, and I would really hate to lose it as a tool. What will the Educational Institution pricing look like? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Murdoch Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 2:14 PM To: sniffer@SortMonster.com Cc: Pete McNeil Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price! Importance: High Hi Folks, Actually, here is some more detail as to the reasons for the price increase. In addition, please bear in mind that that prices haven't been raised in approximately 2 years and even with this increase we are priced very competitively. The new feature/benefits and more to come are as follows: * In the past 6 months we have more than doubled the number of updates per day and we will continue to increase our bandwidth and the speed of our updates. * We have more than tripled our staff to improve our monitoring, support, and rule generation capabilities. Come January, we are again doubling this staff as the black-hats have gotten much more sophisticated and this has become a 24x7 battle. Even Pete needs to sleep sometimes. :-) * We are adding new RD programs for AFF/419 spam and Malware mitigation (many of the results from these projects have already been implemented). * During this next year as part of our continuous improvement policy we will continue to roll out new features and enhancements such as fully automated reporting, in-band real-time updates, an optimized message processing pipeline, image and file attachment tagging, advanced header structure analysis, enhanced adaptive heuristics, improved machine learning systems, real-time wave-front threat detection, and many more... It's important to recognize that many of our improvements don't require new software to be installed on the client side since they are delivered through rulebase enhancements. Though this often causes our work to go unnoticed, it is actually a design feature since it means that your installation requires very little maintenance. This translates to lowered administration costs and higher reliability. As a result of this reliability-first design strategy, it may not always be obvious that our service is constantly being improved and enhanced - we never stand still ;-) We'd hate to see any of you go, but please do compare us with other services. I'm sure that you'll find we're well worth the money, but it's always good to keep your options open. In fact, best practice these days for spam filtering is to use a blended approach that leverages many services. We personally encourage that for best results. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you for your feedback and business! Sincerely Michael Murdoch The Sniffer Team ARM Research Labs, LLC Tel. 850-932-5338 x303 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fox, Thomas Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:03 PM To: sniffer@SortMonster.com Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price! I said the same thing, and the response was, basically, We haven't raised the price in a long time, we need the money, like it or lump it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Koontz Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:57 PM To: sniffer@SortMonster.com Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price! Pete, why over a 50% increase? That seems rather drastic -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete McNeil Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 12:42 PM To: sniffer@sortmonster.com Subject: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price! Hello Sniffer folks, This is just a friendly reminder that prices will be going up January 1. You can add a year to your SNF subscription at the current price if you renew before January 1. Details are here: https
RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
be obvious that our service is constantly being improved and enhanced - we never stand still ;-) We'd hate to see any of you go, but please do compare us with other services. I'm sure that you'll find we're well worth the money, but it's always good to keep your options open. In fact, best practice these days for spam filtering is to use a blended approach that leverages many services. We personally encourage that for best results. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you for your feedback and business! Sincerely Michael Murdoch The Sniffer Team ARM Research Labs, LLC Tel. 850-932-5338 x303 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fox, Thomas Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:03 PM To: sniffer@SortMonster.com Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price! I said the same thing, and the response was, basically, We haven't raised the price in a long time, we need the money, like it or lump it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Koontz Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:57 PM To: sniffer@SortMonster.com Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price! Pete, why over a 50% increase? That seems rather drastic -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete McNeil Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 12:42 PM To: sniffer@sortmonster.com Subject: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price! Hello Sniffer folks, This is just a friendly reminder that prices will be going up January 1. You can add a year to your SNF subscription at the current price if you renew before January 1. Details are here: https://www.armresearch.com/message-sniffer/forms/form-renewal.asp Thanks, _M Pete McNeil (Madscientist) President, MicroNeil Research Corporation Chief SortMonster (www.sortmonster.com) Chief Scientist (www.armresearch.com) This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html
RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
Might I suggest a visit to: http://www.lexus.com/cpo/ and a graduated price increase over the next two years? A one or two year old Lexus is just as nice as a brand new one, and would be a lot easier on our already strained IT budgets. Thanks, --tlf -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Murdoch Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 3:57 PM To: sniffer@SortMonster.com Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price! 1) The monthly rate is going to $ 45.00. 2) It would be a one year extension to your current subscription and then your next renewal would be at the new price. For example, if your license expires 02/08/2006, your next renewal would be on 02/08/2007. This is offer is completely optional and is available to all existing customers. Thanks, MM -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 2:47 PM To: sniffer@SortMonster.com Subject: Re: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price! 1) what will the monthly rate be after 2005? 2) If we where to renew at the current rate, how long will that rate be good for? As you mentioned grandfathered - is this forever or just one year. This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html
RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
Yeah, I figured it at about a 50% increase, but I'm not that good at math and figured they were right Goes to show what I know. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Koontz Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 4:55 PM To: sniffer@SortMonster.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price! Ah-ha! I think I see now. They need the money to buy new calculators for their staff! (see below). That said, even if they are right and it's a 34% price increase, it is still unheard of from any company I've ever dealt with. Michael Murdoch's Calculator: $325 x 1.34 (34% increase) = $435 My GOOD Calculator Says: $325 x 1.5231 (53% increase) = $495 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fox, Thomas Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 3:06 PM To: sniffer@SortMonster.com Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price! See, like I said: We haven't raised prices in a long time, we need the money, like it or lump it. We like the product, and will probably keep using it, but I'll be sure to extract my 34% price increase through inane tech support requests, phone calls, e-mails, etc. If there really hasn't been a price increase in 5 years, a six or seven percent increase per year makes more sense to me than 34% all at once. Such a huge increase, in such a short period of time, smacks of Someone needs a new Lexus much more than it does we need to remain a viable business. This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html
RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Murdoch If you don't feel that's the case, then you are free to decide if you think otherwise. Thanks and take care! EASY FOX TRANSLATION: Like it, or lump it. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html
