[sniffer] high spam
we seem to be having a drastic increase the last couple of hours or so - it's now 12:30 EST - anyone else seeing the same ?
[sniffer] Re: FW: Retest (KMM38446283V14479L0KM)
The time and resources spent dealing with this add up to serious cash I'm thinking class action lawsuit :) - Original Message - From: Matrosity Hosting [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Message Sniffer Community sniffer@sortmonster.com Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 8:36 PM Subject: [sniffer] FW: Retest (KMM38446283V14479L0KM) Whatever, yahoo. You can't just admit your system was hosed and actually still is. Bill Foresman Matrosity Hosting www.matrosity.com 850.656.2644 -Original Message- From: Yahoo! Customer Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 7:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Retest (KMM38446283V14479L0KM) Hello, Thank you for contacting Yahoo! Customer Care. We have investigated the issue described in your report and believe the problem has been resolved. We apologize for any inconvenience. Emails from the mail server(s) you are using have recently become deprioritized due to potential issues with its mailings. These deprioritizations were temporary but may be re-triggered if the sending IP profile continues to be poor. Typically, deprioritizations are triggered by bad individual sender or MAIL FROM profiles. To continue to receive prioritized delivery or if your servers are being delivered to Yahoo! Mail's Bulk Mail folder, please visit the following URL's for more information: http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/spam/spam-18.html http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/bulk/bulk-01.html If you are not the administrator for the mail server(s) affected, we encourage you to contact the administrator so they can address the possible issues regarding mailings from the mail server. If you notice any further difficulties with delivering to Yahoo! Mail accounts after this time, please let us know by replying to this email. Please provide the text of any error messages you may have received and a copy of the email (with the full headers). Also, by providing the specific IP address of the mail server that experienced the delivery issue, it will help us to troubleshoot the issue efficiently. Thank you again for contacting Yahoo! Customer Care. Regards, Raoul Yahoo! Customer Care http://www.yahoo.com/ 27129662 Original Message Follows: - Mail-Id: 1161088172-2180 Name: Bill Foresman IPs in the form 255.255.255.255 (separate multiple IP submissions by new lines): 69.8.234.8 Indicate the error message(s) you have received. 10:17 00:24 SMTP-(373302740f62) Trying yahoo.com (0) 10:17 00:24 SMTP-(278301774a27) Trying yahoo.com (0) 10:17 00:24 SMTP-(3b5b01fb0583) Trying yahoo.com (0) 10:17 00:24 SMTP-(31dc0257057c) Trying yahoo.com (0) 10:17 00:24 SMTP-(306301c6026c) Trying yahoo.com (0) 10:17 00:24 SMTP-(27c101704a84) Trying yahoo.com (0) 10:17 00:24 SMTP-(370f01ce0f1b) Trying yahoo.com (0) 10:17 00:24 SMTP-(367c02540dfe) Trying yahoo.com (0) 10:17 00:24 SMTP-(3215025705df) Trying yahoo.com (0) 10:17 00:24 SMTP-(37f301fe10c1) Trying yahoo.com (0) 10:17 00:24 SMTP-(2d3e016f53e1) Trying yahoo.com (0) 10:17 00:24 SMTP-(37e5027410aa) Trying yahoo.com (0) 10:17 00:24 SMTP-(39ad01de02b3) Trying yahoo.com (0) 10:17 00:24 SMTP-(2ea30212569a) Trying yahoo.com (0) 10:17 00:24 SMTP-(373302740f62) 451 Message temporarily deferred - 4.16.50 Optionally, add a comment to your submission. No clue why this is happening to us! I've checked multiple poen relay test and all come back negative. While Viewing: http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-02.html Form Name: http://add2.dir.scd.yahoo.com/fast/help/us/mail/cgi_retest --- # This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list sniffer@sortmonster.com. To unsubscribe, E-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send administrative queries to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list sniffer@sortmonster.com. To unsubscribe, E-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send administrative queries to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sniffer] yahoo mail problems
Im sorry to post this here but we are desperately looking for opinions quickly as this has becoming a real issue to us and I could not think of any better place to find truly technical mail server folks J We seem to be having multiple mail servers on multiple networks having issues sending to yahoo servers for going on 36 hours now these are a variety of server types on a variety of networks telnet on port 25 is usually getting this 451 Message temporarily deferred - 4.16.50 keep in mind that some of our servers are having no issues sending mail any one else having this issue
[sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
Thanks, but were not blacklisted and there are no entries other than message has been deferred L From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:54 AM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems I would recommend checking your mail server logs for a more detailed description of the bounce error. You may find that it is a DNS or spam blacklist issue. www.dnsstuff.com is a good resource. Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:50 AM Subject: [sniffer] yahoo mail problems Im sorry to post this here but we are desperately looking for opinions quickly as this has becoming a real issue to us and I could not think of any better place to find truly technical mail server folks J We seem to be having multiple mail servers on multiple networks having issues sending to yahoo servers for going on 36 hours now these are a variety of server types on a variety of networks telnet on port 25 is usually getting this 451 Message temporarily deferred - 4.16.50 keep in mind that some of our servers are having no issues sending mail any one else having this issue
[sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
Heres what we have found so far Yahoo is grey listing but instead of running a centralized GL database each of their servers has its own A lookup for their MX shows Mx1.mail.yahoo.com Mx2.mail.yahoo.com Mx3.mail.yahoo.com So your server grabs one of these and does a lookup which returns a round robin response for mx1.mail.yahoo.com of 4.79.181.14 4.79.181.15 4.79.181.168 67.28.113.71 67.28.113.73 67.28.113.19 Each of which has a TTL of 1800 So your server tries one of these and gets deferred to try again. It waits and tries again but depending on your retry frequency TTL may have expired And so the process starts over with a new MX1.mail.yahoo.com server Not sure if this is all correct but it is the best we can figure out as of yet From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:11 PM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Now that I've looked into it further,yes! Our E-mails to Yahoo have also been bouncing back as undeliverable with the same error. I have sent out a few test messages and will report back when I have some more info. Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:52 AM Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Thanks, but were not blacklisted and there are no entries other than message has been deferred L From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:54 AM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems I would recommend checking your mail server logs for a more detailed description of the bounce error. You may find that it is a DNS or spam blacklist issue. www.dnsstuff.com is a good resource. Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:50 AM Subject: [sniffer] yahoo mail problems Im sorry to post this here but we are desperately looking for opinions quickly as this has becoming a real issue to us and I could not think of any better place to find truly technical mail server folks J We seem to be having multiple mail servers on multiple networks having issues sending to yahoo servers for going on 36 hours now these are a variety of server types on a variety of networks telnet on port 25 is usually getting this 451 Message temporarily deferred - 4.16.50 keep in mind that some of our servers are having no issues sending mail any one else having this issue
[sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
This issue is occurring for us with the following platforms Windows with Imail, smartermail Mail enable Linux about ½ our cpanel servers Exchange servers at least 1/3 of them From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:27 PM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Are those of us having this problem all running an Imail server? Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Matrosity Hosting To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:08 PM Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems same here Bill Foresman Matrosity Hosting www.matrosity.com 850.656.2644 From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tech Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:52 AM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Thanks, but were not blacklisted and there are no entries other than message has been deferred L From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:54 AM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems I would recommend checking your mail server logs for a more detailed description of the bounce error. You may find that it is a DNS or spam blacklist issue. www.dnsstuff.com is a good resource. Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:50 AM Subject: [sniffer] yahoo mail problems Im sorry to post this here but we are desperately looking for opinions quickly as this has becoming a real issue to us and I could not think of any better place to find truly technical mail server folks J We seem to be having multiple mail servers on multiple networks having issues sending to yahoo servers for going on 36 hours now these are a variety of server types on a variety of networks telnet on port 25 is usually getting this 451 Message temporarily deferred - 4.16.50 keep in mind that some of our servers are having no issues sending mail any one else having this issue
[sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
Telnet to mx1.mail.yahoo.com on port 25 likewise try mx2 3 From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:44 PM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Weird. I found that only certain domains on our server are having the problem. One domain can successfully send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]but when I try mail to this addressfrom my domain, it fails. The other error we are seeing is: rl-recv: connection reset Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:18 PM Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems This issue is occurring for us with the following platforms Windows with Imail, smartermail Mail enable Linux about ½ our cpanel servers Exchange servers at least 1/3 of them From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:27 PM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Are those of us having this problem all running an Imail server? Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Matrosity Hosting To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:08 PM Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems same here Bill Foresman Matrosity Hosting www.matrosity.com 850.656.2644 From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tech Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:52 AM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Thanks, but were not blacklisted and there are no entries other than message has been deferred L From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:54 AM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems I would recommend checking your mail server logs for a more detailed description of the bounce error. You may find that it is a DNS or spam blacklist issue. www.dnsstuff.com is a good resource. Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:50 AM Subject: [sniffer] yahoo mail problems Im sorry to post this here but we are desperately looking for opinions quickly as this has becoming a real issue to us and I could not think of any better place to find truly technical mail server folks J We seem to be having multiple mail servers on multiple networks having issues sending to yahoo servers for going on 36 hours now these are a variety of server types on a variety of networks telnet on port 25 is usually getting this 451 Message temporarily deferred - 4.16.50 keep in mind that some of our servers are having no issues sending mail any one else having this issue
[sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
We were thinking of that approach but we run dedicated dns servers that are extremely high traffic so we would have to setup dns on each server as adding the zone to our true dns would cause lookup issues for other yahoo services From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:38 PM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems I had a similar problem with Hotmail once upon a time; the details were different, but the remedy was the same. I run a caching DNS server on my outbound DNS host, so I simply addeda DNS zone forYahoo.com on it, and populated only enough MX record information so that I could reliably get tojust a few hosts. The same dummy zone technique could be used here to consistently deliver mail to the same Yahoo! mail hosts and therefore their greylisting will work as they expect. If you try it and it works, please let us know. Andrew 8) From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tech Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 9:12 AM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Heres what we have found so far Yahoo is grey listing but instead of running a centralized GL database each of their servers has its own A lookup for their MX shows Mx1.mail.yahoo.com Mx2.mail.yahoo.com Mx3.mail.yahoo.com So your server grabs one of these and does a lookup which returns a round robin response for mx1.mail.yahoo.com of 4.79.181.14 4.79.181.15 4.79.181.168 67.28.113.71 67.28.113.73 67.28.113.19 Each of which has a TTL of 1800 So your server tries one of these and gets deferred to try again. It waits and tries again but depending on your retry frequency TTL may have expired And so the process starts over with a new MX1.mail.yahoo.com server Not sure if this is all correct but it is the best we can figure out as of yet From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:11 PM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Now that I've looked into it further,yes! Our E-mails to Yahoo have also been bouncing back as undeliverable with the same error. I have sent out a few test messages and will report back when I have some more info. Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:52 AM Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Thanks, but were not blacklisted and there are no entries other than message has been deferred L From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:54 AM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems I would recommend checking your mail server logs for a more detailed description of the bounce error. You may find that it is a DNS or spam blacklist issue. www.dnsstuff.com is a good resource. Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:50 AM Subject: [sniffer] yahoo mail problems Im sorry to post this here but we are desperately looking for opinions quickly as this has becoming a real issue to us and I could not think of any better place to find truly technical mail server folks J We seem to be having multiple mail servers on multiple networks having issues sending to yahoo servers for going on 36 hours now these are a variety of server types on a variety of networks telnet on port 25 is usually getting this 451 Message temporarily deferred - 4.16.50 keep in mind that some of our servers are having no issues sending mail any one else having this issue
[sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
Not really much any of us can do unless someone has a friend who has a friend but its a problem none the less as yahoo also sells their services to host email commercially for any domain that will pay them From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 2:44 PM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Here is the error we are getting now on any mail to Yahoo: Unexpected connection response from server: Out of curiosity, I ran yahoo.com through DNSREPORT.COM and it said: ERROR: I could not complete a connection to any of your mailservers! So I guess I'll stop worrying about it and wait for them to fix their problem. Agree? Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:47 PM Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Its a variety actually MS DNS SimpleDNS And bind on linux I believe From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Matuska Jr. Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:49 PM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Would you happen to be running Microsoft DNS server? I ran into something similar a while back with certain dns queries were corrupted for domains that used certain extended dns queries. It turned out in our case that our firewalls were removing the ends of the extended dns packets because they were over limit. Have you made any firewall changes recently? Jim Matuska Jr. Computer Tech2, CCNA Nez Perce Tribe Information Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 9:44 AM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Weird. I found that only certain domains on our server are having the problem. One domain can successfully send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]but when I try mail to this addressfrom my domain, it fails. The other error we are seeing is: rl-recv: connection reset Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:18 PM Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems This issue is occurring for us with the following platforms Windows with Imail, smartermail Mail enable Linux about ½ our cpanel servers Exchange servers at least 1/3 of them From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:27 PM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Are those of us having this problem all running an Imail server? Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Matrosity Hosting To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:08 PM Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems same here Bill Foresman Matrosity Hosting www.matrosity.com 850.656.2644 From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tech Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:52 AM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Thanks, but were not blacklisted and there are no entries other than message has been deferred L From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:54 AM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems I would recommend checking your mail server logs for a more detailed description of the bounce error. You may find that it is a DNS or spam blacklist issue. www.dnsstuff.com is a good resource. Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:50 AM Subject: [sniffer] yahoo mail problems Im sorry to post this here but we are desperately looking for opinions quickly as this has becoming a real issue to us and I could not think of any better place to find truly technical mail server folks J We seem to be having multiple mail servers on multiple networks having issues sending to yahoo servers for going on 36 hours now these are a variety of server types on a variety of networks telnet on port 25 is usually getting this 451 Message temporarily deferred - 4.16.50 keep in mind that some of our servers are having no issues sending mail any one else having this issue
[sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
Not really chances are a few tries several seconds apart will yield the reverse on both servers From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 3:00 PM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Thanks for the suggestion. I did the Telnet test to MX1 and it fails from the mail server, but connects ok from my web server. Any ideas? Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:34 PM Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Telnet to mx1.mail.yahoo.com on port 25 likewise try mx2 3 From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:44 PM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Weird. I found that only certain domains on our server are having the problem. One domain can successfully send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]but when I try mail to this addressfrom my domain, it fails. The other error we are seeing is: rl-recv: connection reset Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:18 PM Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems This issue is occurring for us with the following platforms Windows with Imail, smartermail Mail enable Linux about ½ our cpanel servers Exchange servers at least 1/3 of them From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:27 PM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Are those of us having this problem all running an Imail server? Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Matrosity Hosting To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:08 PM Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems same here Bill Foresman Matrosity Hosting www.matrosity.com 850.656.2644 From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tech Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:52 AM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems Thanks, but were not blacklisted and there are no entries other than message has been deferred L From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:54 AM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems I would recommend checking your mail server logs for a more detailed description of the bounce error. You may find that it is a DNS or spam blacklist issue. www.dnsstuff.com is a good resource. Michael Stein Computer House - Original Message - From: Tech Support To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:50 AM Subject: [sniffer] yahoo mail problems Im sorry to post this here but we are desperately looking for opinions quickly as this has becoming a real issue to us and I could not think of any better place to find truly technical mail server folks J We seem to be having multiple mail servers on multiple networks having issues sending to yahoo servers for going on 36 hours now these are a variety of server types on a variety of networks telnet on port 25 is usually getting this 451 Message temporarily deferred - 4.16.50 keep in mind that some of our servers are having no issues sending mail any one else having this issue
RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price!
We've already renewed this morning. From our point of view even at the $170 per year more would still be far less costly than the cost of finding, evaluating and implementing another solution. Not to mention the potential loss of business if our customers were not happy with the replacements results. Just 2 cents from a guy that rarely says anything :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Murdoch Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 2:14 PM To: sniffer@SortMonster.com Cc: Pete McNeil Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price! Importance: High Hi Folks, Actually, here is some more detail as to the reasons for the price increase. In addition, please bear in mind that that prices haven't been raised in approximately 2 years and even with this increase we are priced very competitively. The new feature/benefits and more to come are as follows: * In the past 6 months we have more than doubled the number of updates per day and we will continue to increase our bandwidth and the speed of our updates. * We have more than tripled our staff to improve our monitoring, support, and rule generation capabilities. Come January, we are again doubling this staff as the black-hats have gotten much more sophisticated and this has become a 24x7 battle. Even Pete needs to sleep sometimes. :-) * We are adding new RD programs for AFF/419 spam and Malware mitigation (many of the results from these projects have already been implemented). * During this next year as part of our continuous improvement policy we will continue to roll out new features and enhancements such as fully automated reporting, in-band real-time updates, an optimized message processing pipeline, image and file attachment tagging, advanced header structure analysis, enhanced adaptive heuristics, improved machine learning systems, real-time wave-front threat detection, and many more... It's important to recognize that many of our improvements don't require new software to be installed on the client side since they are delivered through rulebase enhancements. Though this often causes our work to go unnoticed, it is actually a design feature since it means that your installation requires very little maintenance. This translates to lowered administration costs and higher reliability. As a result of this reliability-first design strategy, it may not always be obvious that our service is constantly being improved and enhanced - we never stand still ;-) We'd hate to see any of you go, but please do compare us with other services. I'm sure that you'll find we're well worth the money, but it's always good to keep your options open. In fact, best practice these days for spam filtering is to use a blended approach that leverages many services. We personally encourage that for best results. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you for your feedback and business! Sincerely Michael Murdoch The Sniffer Team ARM Research Labs, LLC Tel. 850-932-5338 x303 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fox, Thomas Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:03 PM To: sniffer@SortMonster.com Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price! I said the same thing, and the response was, basically, We haven't raised the price in a long time, we need the money, like it or lump it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Koontz Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:57 PM To: sniffer@SortMonster.com Subject: RE: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price! Pete, why over a 50% increase? That seems rather drastic -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete McNeil Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 12:42 PM To: sniffer@sortmonster.com Subject: [sniffer] Last chance to renew at the old price! Hello Sniffer folks, This is just a friendly reminder that prices will be going up January 1. You can add a year to your SNF subscription at the current price if you renew before January 1. Details are here: https://www.armresearch.com/message-sniffer/forms/form-renewal.asp Thanks, _M Pete McNeil (Madscientist) President, MicroNeil Research Corporation Chief SortMonster (www.sortmonster.com) Chief Scientist (www.armresearch.com) This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For
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Pete, What do we need to do up increase our rulebase strength I dont know if its just a larger amount of spam messages in general or a larger % of them getting through but I have customers complaining Thanks Dodd
Re: [sniffer] MDaemon Opinion OT
We're testing mailEnable later this week for this very reason. They claim to have a utility to migrate from iMail, boxes intact http://www.mailenable.com/addons_Conversion.asp Dodd - Original Message - From: SniffMe To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 3:38 AM Subject: Re: [sniffer] MDaemon Opinion OT One thing to consider before making the Imail - MDaemon jump (or similar mailservers)... When I evaluated MDaemon, I noticed that messages are stored in individual .msg files inside the user's mailbox directory. Imail stores the mail in a common mailbox.mbx file. If your users store their mail on the server (webmail/imap/pop3 on server), you would have to migrate these messages over.I've yet to see a utility built for parsing a mailbox.mbx file into multiple mail.txt files, thoughI'm sure one could be made relatively easily in java/perl/whatever. I asked MDaemon support about possible import tools, and they suggested using a pop retrieval program on the individual mailboxes. Unfortunately that solution falls short in a few areas for us. 1. For a large number of mailboxes, that can become time consuming. 2.It's limited to only being able to download a user's inbox.mbx, leaving their sent items, drafts, and otherimap folders behind. 3. MDaemon does not support direct mail to a user's submailbox (Imail's equivalent of a mailbox delimiter). I was hoping that I could directly query [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which I can) and have Bob's Sent.mbx redirected automatically to a Sent folder on the MDaemon server ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). No such luck. Please understand that this was something that we anticipated would cause issues withour migration. All of this may be a nonissue for you if your users are emptying their mailboxes regularly. This behavior was noted on General Download/Release 7.20. I've got no clue what later/beta versions can or cannot do. Good luck! John - Original Message - From: Jorge Asch To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [sniffer] MDaemon Opinion OT Also does anyone know if MDaemon has a way users can modify their spam settings independent of a global policy or administrator set rules. It would be nice to let our users that complain about false positive lower their spam setting and those that complain about anything getting through the spam filters.Not at the moment. This is on the Wishlist (per-user settings), and hopefully we will see it next year.The plugins is available as we speak, I've been using it for 16 hours with minimal problems (an inconsistency with the headers). Pete posted the link on the md-beta forum last night and asked for feedback. If you don't have access to the md-beta mailing list, then Pete might publish the link here as well later (he is working on some fixes right now). Be aware that you need to run the latest MD beta to run the plugin (7.50d). If you're not comfortable running beta software, the release date for MD 7.50 (final) is on February 1st, 2005. Until then, using the MD beta release is the only way to use the plugin.-- Jorge Asch Revilla CONEXION DCR www.conexion.co.cr 800-CONEXION
