Re: [sniffer] Scheduled Updates

2004-04-21 Thread Kirk Mitchell
At 04:56 PM 4/20/04 -0400, Pete McNeil wrote:
Just to follow up in the same thread, the compilers were running, but the 
update notifications were not going out. We missed it locally because our 
local update notifications follow a different path and because the 
compilers were running normally. I have adjusted our monitoring processes 
accordingly.

Might there be another problem with this? It's been 18 hours since the last
update notification email.


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RE: [sniffer] Scheduled Updates

2004-04-21 Thread Jerry Freund
Same here my last was Tue 4/20/2004 3:11 PM

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At 04:56 PM 4/20/04 -0400, Pete McNeil wrote:
Just to follow up in the same thread, the compilers were running, but the 
update notifications were not going out. We missed it locally because our 
local update notifications follow a different path and because the 
compilers were running normally. I have adjusted our monitoring processes 
accordingly.

Might there be another problem with this? It's been 18 hours since the last
update notification email.


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Re: [sniffer] Scheduled Updates

2004-04-21 Thread Pete McNeil
At 05:56 PM 4/21/2004, you wrote:
At 04:56 PM 4/20/04 -0400, Pete McNeil wrote:
Just to follow up in the same thread, the compilers were running, but the
update notifications were not going out. We missed it locally because our
local update notifications follow a different path and because the
compilers were running normally. I have adjusted our monitoring processes
accordingly.
Might there be another problem with this? It's been 18 hours since the last
update notification email.
There was... you should be getting an update notification soon. I'm doing a 
spot check now and things seem to be running smoothly. There was a DNS 
issue with one of our resolvers - it was intermittent and was causing the 
compiler daemons to fail silently when sending out some of the 
notifications... I'm still working on how silently could happen there.

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RE: [sniffer] Scheduled Updates

2004-04-20 Thread David Lewis-Waller
Sorry ignore last just found our notification email service sent out when
sniffer is updated wasn't running (sorry) 

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Sent: 20 April 2004 17:12
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Subject: RE: [sniffer] Scheduled Updates

Not sure if this is a specific issue but the Sniffer update hasn't updated
since Monday at 02:1 BST (British Summer time GMT+1). Are there any issues
at the moment? We have this triggered by an email normally.

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On Behalf Of Pete McNeil
Sent: 19 April 2004 14:24
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [sniffer] Scheduled Updates

At 03:33 AM 4/19/2004, you wrote:
  The following schedule is based on the first letter of your license ID.
  Schedules are separated by even and odd hours, and are further 
  separated by 4 minutes for each letter within a given hour.

Should we use this system also for uploading the log files?

We do not appear to have a problem with uploads at this time, but in any
case it would be a good idea to organize scheduled tasks in this way to
minimize the possibility of a problem.

Thanks,
_M



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RE: [sniffer] Scheduled Updates

2004-04-20 Thread EI8HT LEGS Technical Support
I am not sure that I have received any emails today about any updates
either.  Is there something wrong with the emailing out of updates?

Sincerely,
Grant Griffith
EI8HT LEGS Enhanced Web Management
http://www.getafreewebsite.com
877-483-3393

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Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 2:23 PM
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Subject: RE: [sniffer] Scheduled Updates


I show the latest compile time as 20040420.1644 GMT.
I'll check the logs to see if there has been trouble with your update email.
Then I will follow up off list.

_M

At 12:11 PM 4/20/2004, you wrote:
Not sure if this is a specific issue but the Sniffer update hasn't updated
since Monday at 02:1 BST (British Summer time GMT+1). Are there any issues
at the moment? We have this triggered by an email normally.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Pete McNeil
Sent: 19 April 2004 14:24
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [sniffer] Scheduled Updates

At 03:33 AM 4/19/2004, you wrote:
   The following schedule is based on the first letter of your license
ID.
   Schedules are separated by even and odd hours, and are further
   separated by 4 minutes for each letter within a given hour.
 
 Should we use this system also for uploading the log files?

We do not appear to have a problem with uploads at this time, but in any
case it would be a good idea to organize scheduled tasks in this way to
minimize the possibility of a problem.

Thanks,
_M



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RE: [sniffer] Scheduled Updates

2004-04-20 Thread Stephen S Zappardo
I also have not received any email notifications today.

Stephen

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Subject: RE: [sniffer] Scheduled Updates


I am not sure that I have received any emails today about any updates
either.  Is there something wrong with the emailing out of updates?

Sincerely,
Grant Griffith
EI8HT LEGS Enhanced Web Management http://www.getafreewebsite.com
877-483-3393

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Pete McNeil
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 2:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Scheduled Updates


I show the latest compile time as 20040420.1644 GMT.
I'll check the logs to see if there has been trouble with your update email.
Then I will follow up off list.

_M

At 12:11 PM 4/20/2004, you wrote:
Not sure if this is a specific issue but the Sniffer update hasn't 
updated since Monday at 02:1 BST (British Summer time GMT+1). Are there 
any issues at the moment? We have this triggered by an email normally.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Pete McNeil
Sent: 19 April 2004 14:24
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [sniffer] Scheduled Updates

At 03:33 AM 4/19/2004, you wrote:
   The following schedule is based on the first letter of your 
   license
ID.
   Schedules are separated by even and odd hours, and are further 
   separated by 4 minutes for each letter within a given hour.
 
 Should we use this system also for uploading the log files?

We do not appear to have a problem with uploads at this time, but in 
any case it would be a good idea to organize scheduled tasks in this 
way to minimize the possibility of a problem.

Thanks,
_M



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Re: [sniffer] Scheduled Updates

2004-04-20 Thread Glenn \\\\ WCNet
Same here, but I have updates scheduled every two hours anyway.

Glenn Z.


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 2:40 PM
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Scheduled Updates


I also have not received any email notifications today.

Stephen

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Subject: RE: [sniffer] Scheduled Updates


I am not sure that I have received any emails today about any updates
either.  Is there something wrong with the emailing out of updates?

Sincerely,
Grant Griffith
EI8HT LEGS Enhanced Web Management http://www.getafreewebsite.com
877-483-3393

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Pete McNeil
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 2:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Scheduled Updates


I show the latest compile time as 20040420.1644 GMT.
I'll check the logs to see if there has been trouble with your update email.
Then I will follow up off list.

_M

At 12:11 PM 4/20/2004, you wrote:
Not sure if this is a specific issue but the Sniffer update hasn't
updated since Monday at 02:1 BST (British Summer time GMT+1). Are there
any issues at the moment? We have this triggered by an email normally.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Pete McNeil
Sent: 19 April 2004 14:24
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [sniffer] Scheduled Updates

At 03:33 AM 4/19/2004, you wrote:
   The following schedule is based on the first letter of your
   license
ID.
   Schedules are separated by even and odd hours, and are further
   separated by 4 minutes for each letter within a given hour.
 
 Should we use this system also for uploading the log files?

We do not appear to have a problem with uploads at this time, but in
any case it would be a good idea to organize scheduled tasks in this
way to minimize the possibility of a problem.

Thanks,
_M



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RE: [sniffer] Scheduled Updates

2004-04-20 Thread Bill
I just checked my logs and my last update e-mail notification was Sunday
at 7:56PM.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete McNeil
 Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 2:23 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [sniffer] Scheduled Updates
 
 
 I show the latest compile time as 20040420.1644 GMT.
 I'll check the logs to see if there has been trouble with 
 your update email. Then I will follow up off list.
 
 _M
 
 At 12:11 PM 4/20/2004, you wrote:
 Not sure if this is a specific issue but the Sniffer update hasn't 
 updated since Monday at 02:1 BST (British Summer time 
 GMT+1). Are there 
 any issues at the moment? We have this triggered by an email 
 normally.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Pete McNeil
 Sent: 19 April 2004 14:24
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [sniffer] Scheduled Updates
 
 At 03:33 AM 4/19/2004, you wrote:
The following schedule is based on the first letter of your 
license ID. Schedules are separated by even and odd 
 hours, and are 
further separated by 4 minutes for each letter within a given 
hour.
  
  Should we use this system also for uploading the log files?
 
 We do not appear to have a problem with uploads at this time, but in 
 any case it would be a good idea to organize scheduled tasks in this 
 way to minimize the possibility of a problem.
 
 Thanks,
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RE: [sniffer] Scheduled Updates

2004-04-20 Thread David Lewis-Waller
I can confirm we're not getting notification emails to trigger updates.

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RE: [sniffer] Scheduled Updates

2004-04-20 Thread Patrick Childers
Same here... Last update was 5:59PM EST on 04/18/04

Patrick


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I can confirm we're not getting notification emails to trigger updates.

David

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RE: [sniffer] Scheduled Updates

2004-04-20 Thread Pete McNeil
There was an undiscovered problem with one of the compiler settings. I have 
restored the setting to the original value and started a full compile. This 
appears to have solved the problem.

Thanks,
_M
At 04:04 PM 4/20/2004, you wrote:
I just checked my logs and my last update e-mail notification was Sunday
at 7:56PM.
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete McNeil
 Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 2:23 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [sniffer] Scheduled Updates


 I show the latest compile time as 20040420.1644 GMT.
 I'll check the logs to see if there has been trouble with
 your update email. Then I will follow up off list.

 _M

 At 12:11 PM 4/20/2004, you wrote:
 Not sure if this is a specific issue but the Sniffer update hasn't
 updated since Monday at 02:1 BST (British Summer time
 GMT+1). Are there
 any issues at the moment? We have this triggered by an email
 normally.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Pete McNeil
 Sent: 19 April 2004 14:24
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [sniffer] Scheduled Updates
 
 At 03:33 AM 4/19/2004, you wrote:
The following schedule is based on the first letter of your
license ID. Schedules are separated by even and odd
 hours, and are
further separated by 4 minutes for each letter within a given
hour.
  
  Should we use this system also for uploading the log files?
 
 We do not appear to have a problem with uploads at this time, but in
 any case it would be a good idea to organize scheduled tasks in this
 way to minimize the possibility of a problem.
 
 Thanks,
 _M
 
 
 
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Re: [sniffer] Scheduled Updates

2004-04-20 Thread Steven Z. Harris
We are also not getting sniffer update email notifications.

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[sniffer] Scheduled Updates

2004-04-19 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello folks,

I've been watching the systems operate throughout the evening with an eye 
toward minimizing download problems in the short term. It appears that it 
will take us several weeks if not months to finally negotiate, plan, and 
execute the changes we have planned in our hosting facilities.

In the mean time it appears that there are many things we can do in the 
short and medium term to avoid any problems.

With that in mind I will share with you my observations from this morning. 
At approximately 0200 EDT at least 40 separate systems converged to 
download their rulebase files all at once. This saturated our available 
bandwidth and I'm sure slowed things down quite a bit for those involved. 
Except for this one incident I saw nearly open capacity for the remainder 
of my monitoring time (several hours) - even though the rulebase compilers 
are running.

This kind of thing is common when folks use scheduled processes... Great 
minds, after all, think alike so often many people will pick the same time 
to schedule their processes.

The best solution to these congestion patterns would be for everyone to 
trigger updates based on our update notifications. However, I recognize 
that this might not be possible, desirable, or practical for some systems. 
(We do have plans to fully automate updates in the future but that's not 
something we will be doing in the short term).

For those systems which prefer strongly to use scheduled updates, please 
follow these guidelines to ensure that large numbers of systems don't 
converge on a single time.

The following schedule is based on the first letter of your license ID. 
Schedules are separated by even and odd hours, and are further separated by 
4 minutes for each letter within a given hour.  You should be able to 
calculate a good time-slot for your system using these guidelines. Using 
the these guidelines everyone should see improved performance and fewer (if 
any) errors.

I will use the 0100 hour to represent any odd hour (1,3,5,7,9,11) and the 
0200 hour to represent any even hour (0,2,4,8,10). The following chart 
shows safe times in the 0100 through 0200 hours based on the first letter 
in your license ID.

a - 0100
b - 0200
c - 0104
d - 0204
e - 0108
f - 0208
g - 0112
h - 0212
i - 0116
j - 0216
k - 0120
l - 0220
m - 0124
n - 0224
o - 0128
p - 0228
q - 0132
r - 0232
s - 0136
t - 0236
u - 0140
v - 0240
w - 0144
x - 0244
y - 0148
z - 0248
If you are using scheduled tasks to update your systems please make changes 
to your schedules as soon as possible.

Those who are using our update notifications to trigger your downloads 
please keep doing what you are doing!

THANKS!
_M
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