Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4

2014-11-25 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
 You find it. I don't know why the bot directory should be deleted.
 I cc to peter, who maintain the rpm.

It goes back long before I was  the maintainer and was previously
working. The question is what does it do, and why when Speak has been
working for years does it suddenly break.

http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/sugar-speak.git/commit/?id=438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198

 Gonzalo

 On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Iain Brown Douglas
 i...@browndouglas.plus.com wrote:

 On Mon, 2014-11-24 at 12:28 +, Iain Brown Douglas wrote:
  On Sun, 2014-11-23 at 19:15 +, Iain Brown Douglas wrote:
   On Sat, 2014-11-22 at 00:52 -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
   
The folder bot/ and its contents were not in the
Speak.activity folder.
   
I deleted /usr/share/sugar/activities/Speak.activity/
I re-installed Speak by importing speak-48.xo with a USB
stick.
Alice is now running complete with brain.
   
   
Ok, that confirms the .xo is ok,
can you uninstall the activity again, and install the activity using
the rpm?
The rpm should be named sugar-speak
  
   Same behaviour after:
  
   sudo rpm -evv sugar-speak-48*
  
   then
  
   rpmbuild --rebuild -vv sugar-speak-48-1.fc21.src.rpm
  
   Alice: I don't know what you are talking about
  
   Directory bot/ is again missing
   from /usr/share/sugar/activities/Speak.activity/
  
  Two attachments,
 
 
  1. Speak11-Action2_attach
 
  This is the only mention that I found of the folder bot/ in the install
  logs.
 
 
  I cannot explain the line
 
  + rm -rf .0sugar bot
 
 Until I read sugar-speak.spec - line 32.

 Iain
 
  2. I made SpeakContentReview in case it throws any light.
 
  As I see it the differences are:
  AUTHORS
  bot/
  po/
  *.pyo
 
 
  Environment, hard drive install from Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4.iso
 
  Iain
 
  
  
Gonzalo
   
   
  
  
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Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4

2014-11-25 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote:


 On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org
 wrote:
  You find it. I don't know why the bot directory should be deleted.
  I cc to peter, who maintain the rpm.

 It goes back long before I was  the maintainer and was previously
 working. The question is what does it do, and why when Speak has been
 working for years does it suddenly break.


 http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/sugar-speak.git/commit/?id=438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198


 That patch removes the bots functionality. Looks like was done to make the
 activity
 work on systems with small memory (XO-1, probably)
 cc is Sebastian, the patch author, to check if this is still needed.

 I see 438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198 removes the bots directory,
 _and_ apply the patch  sugar-speak-no-aiml.patch, to remove the need of the
 bots data,
 but right now, we are not applying that patch, then would be better add the
 bot directory again.

I suspect it was sufficiently long ago that Seb won't remember the reason.

Ultimately we need to just sort it out here.

Peter
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Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4

2014-11-25 Thread Sebastian Silva
I added Alice and Sara (spanish bot) but was not aware it was removed.
It certainly runs quite well in spanish XO1, as deployed in Peru.
I was not aware of responsible for the removed functionality nor was I
aware of any bugs related to it or performance.

Please add it back
Sebastian Silva
http://somosazucar.org/



2014-11-25 7:17 GMT-05:00 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com:
 On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org 
 wrote:


 On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org
 wrote:
  You find it. I don't know why the bot directory should be deleted.
  I cc to peter, who maintain the rpm.

 It goes back long before I was  the maintainer and was previously
 working. The question is what does it do, and why when Speak has been
 working for years does it suddenly break.


 http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/sugar-speak.git/commit/?id=438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198


 That patch removes the bots functionality. Looks like was done to make the
 activity
 work on systems with small memory (XO-1, probably)
 cc is Sebastian, the patch author, to check if this is still needed.

 I see 438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198 removes the bots directory,
 _and_ apply the patch  sugar-speak-no-aiml.patch, to remove the need of the
 bots data,
 but right now, we are not applying that patch, then would be better add the
 bot directory again.

 I suspect it was sufficiently long ago that Seb won't remember the reason.

 Ultimately we need to just sort it out here.

 Peter
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Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4

2014-11-25 Thread Sebastian Silva
So ask Sebastian Dzallas why he removed my contribution!
Sebastian Silva
http://somosazucar.org/



2014-11-25 7:50 GMT-05:00 Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org:
 Yes, but that is what this patch do, right?

 http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/sugar-speak.git/commit/?id=438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198

 On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@somosazucar.org
 wrote:

 btw it's sneaky to remove funcionality in a .spec file, no?
 Sebastian Silva
 http://somosazucar.org/



 2014-11-25 7:46 GMT-05:00 Sebastian Silva sebast...@somosazucar.org:
  I added Alice and Sara (spanish bot) but was not aware it was removed.
  It certainly runs quite well in spanish XO1, as deployed in Peru.
  I was not aware of responsible for the removed functionality nor was I
  aware of any bugs related to it or performance.
 
  Please add it back
  Sebastian Silva
  http://somosazucar.org/
 
 
 
  2014-11-25 7:17 GMT-05:00 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com:
  On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Gonzalo Odiard
  godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
 
 
  On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Gonzalo Odiard
  godi...@sugarlabs.org
  wrote:
   You find it. I don't know why the bot directory should be deleted.
   I cc to peter, who maintain the rpm.
 
  It goes back long before I was  the maintainer and was previously
  working. The question is what does it do, and why when Speak has been
  working for years does it suddenly break.
 
 
 
  http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/sugar-speak.git/commit/?id=438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198
 
 
  That patch removes the bots functionality. Looks like was done to make
  the
  activity
  work on systems with small memory (XO-1, probably)
  cc is Sebastian, the patch author, to check if this is still needed.
 
  I see 438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198 removes the bots
  directory,
  _and_ apply the patch  sugar-speak-no-aiml.patch, to remove the need
  of the
  bots data,
  but right now, we are not applying that patch, then would be better
  add the
  bot directory again.
 
  I suspect it was sufficiently long ago that Seb won't remember the
  reason.
 
  Ultimately we need to just sort it out here.
 
  Peter




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Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4

2014-11-25 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Sebastian Silva
sebast...@somosazucar.org wrote:
 btw it's sneaky to remove funcionality in a .spec file, no?

No, it's not, it happens all the time. It might be that it breaks in
certain situations, isn't re-distributable, causes problems the
upstream maintainer won't fix or any number of other reasons. What
ever the reason is it's historical and not documented, I wouldn't
assume malice. It's likely because translations or similar were broken
at the time. I mean we are talking the heady days of Fedora 14 when it
was removed!

Peter


 2014-11-25 7:46 GMT-05:00 Sebastian Silva sebast...@somosazucar.org:
 I added Alice and Sara (spanish bot) but was not aware it was removed.
 It certainly runs quite well in spanish XO1, as deployed in Peru.
 I was not aware of responsible for the removed functionality nor was I
 aware of any bugs related to it or performance.

 Please add it back
 Sebastian Silva
 http://somosazucar.org/



 2014-11-25 7:17 GMT-05:00 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com:
 On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org 
 wrote:


 On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org
 wrote:
  You find it. I don't know why the bot directory should be deleted.
  I cc to peter, who maintain the rpm.

 It goes back long before I was  the maintainer and was previously
 working. The question is what does it do, and why when Speak has been
 working for years does it suddenly break.


 http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/sugar-speak.git/commit/?id=438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198


 That patch removes the bots functionality. Looks like was done to make the
 activity
 work on systems with small memory (XO-1, probably)
 cc is Sebastian, the patch author, to check if this is still needed.

 I see 438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198 removes the bots directory,
 _and_ apply the patch  sugar-speak-no-aiml.patch, to remove the need of the
 bots data,
 but right now, we are not applying that patch, then would be better add the
 bot directory again.

 I suspect it was sufficiently long ago that Seb won't remember the reason.

 Ultimately we need to just sort it out here.

 Peter
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Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4

2014-11-24 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 23.11.2014, at 20:25, Iain Brown Douglas i...@browndouglas.plus.com wrote:
 
 On Sat, 2014-11-22 at 16:16 +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
 On 22.11.2014, at 15:15, Jean THIERY jean.thi...@modlibre.info wrote:
 
 EToys-116 displays
 « Cannot find image file: squeak, did you run 'initsqueak -m'? »
 After clicking on this message,
 the screen is filled by cars and is not usable.
 
 That looks weird ... does it work if you run etoys from the Terminal 
 activity?
 
 Thank you Bert for your reply,
 
 Yes, Etoys starts ok when I simply:
 
 run etoys from the Terminal activity.
 
 Why is this? what is wrong with the Sugar launcher?

I have no idea. The error message should actually mean it doesn't work at all. 
But you're saying it is running, albeit incorrectly (screen filled with 
cars). Maybe those two are unrelated. The latter might have to do with being 
run full-screen vs. windowed. We didn't change anything in Etoys so I think it 
must be some environmental change?

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Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4

2014-11-24 Thread Iain Brown Douglas
On Sun, 2014-11-23 at 19:15 +, Iain Brown Douglas wrote:
 On Sat, 2014-11-22 at 00:52 -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
  
  The folder bot/ and its contents were not in the
  Speak.activity folder.
  
  I deleted /usr/share/sugar/activities/Speak.activity/
  I re-installed Speak by importing speak-48.xo with a USB
  stick.
  Alice is now running complete with brain.
  
  
  Ok, that confirms the .xo is ok,
  can you uninstall the activity again, and install the activity using
  the rpm?
  The rpm should be named sugar-speak
 
 Same behaviour after:
 
 sudo rpm -evv sugar-speak-48*
 
 then
 
 rpmbuild --rebuild -vv sugar-speak-48-1.fc21.src.rpm
 
 Alice: I don't know what you are talking about
 
 Directory bot/ is again missing
 from /usr/share/sugar/activities/Speak.activity/
 
Two attachments,


1. Speak11-Action2_attach

This is the only mention that I found of the folder bot/ in the install
logs.


I cannot explain the line

+ rm -rf .0sugar bot


2. I made SpeakContentReview in case it throws any light.

As I see it the differences are:
AUTHORS 
bot/   
po/
*.pyo


Environment, hard drive install from Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4.iso

Iain

 
 
  Gonzalo
  
  
 
 
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As I see it the differences are:
AUTHORS 
bot/   
po/
*.pyo

1. This is the contents of ~/Activities/Speak.activity, when installed from 
Speak-48.xo

activity  chatbox.py  espeak.py  fft_mouth.py   locale
setup.pywaveform_mouth.py
activity.py   chatbox.pyc espeak.pyc fft_mouth.pyc  mouth.py  
sleepy.py   waveform_mouth.pyc
activity.pyc  chat.py eyelashes.py   glasses.py mouth.pyc 
sleepy.pyc  wireframes.py
aiml  chat.pyceyelashes.pyc  glasses.pycNEWS  
sunglasses.py   wireframes.pyc
AUTHORS   COPYING eye.py HACKINGpo
sunglasses.pyc
bot   espeak_cmd.py   eye.pychalfmoon.pyREADMETODO
brain.py  espeak_cmd.pyc  face.pyhalfmoon.pyc   roundbox.py   
voice.py
brain.pyc espeak_gst.py   face.pyc   icons  roundbox.pyc  
voice.pyc

2. This is the contents of /usr/share/sugar/activities/Speak.activity, as 
delivered.

activity  chatbox.pyc espeak_gst.py   eye.py glasses.py
mouth.py  setup.pyc   voice.py
activity.py   chatbox.pyo espeak_gst.pyc  eye.pycglasses.pyc   
mouth.pyc setup.pyo   voice.pyc
activity.pyc  chat.py espeak_gst.pyo  eye.pyoglasses.pyo   
mouth.pyo sleepy.py   voice.pyo
activity.pyo  chat.pycespeak.py   face.pyHACKING   NEWS 
 sleepy.pyc  waveform_mouth.py
aiml  chat.pyoespeak.pyc  face.pyc   halfmoon.py   
READMEsleepy.pyo  waveform_mouth.pyc
brain.py  COPYING espeak.pyo  face.pyo   halfmoon.pyc  
roundbox.py   sunglasses.py   waveform_mouth.pyo
brain.pyc espeak_cmd.py   eyelashes.pyfft_mouth.py   halfmoon.pyo  
roundbox.pyc  sunglasses.pyc  wireframes.py
brain.pyo espeak_cmd.pyc  eyelashes.pyc   fft_mouth.pyc  icons 
roundbox.pyo  sunglasses.pyo  wireframes.pyc
chatbox.pyespeak_cmd.pyo  eyelashes.pyo   fft_mouth.pyo  locale
setup.py  TODOwireframes.pyo

3. This is the contents of /usr/share/sugar/activities/Speak.activity, when 
installed from sources.

activity  espeak_cmd.py   face.pymouth.py   sunglasses.pyc
activity.py   espeak_cmd.pyc  face.pyc   mouth.pyc  sunglasses.pyo
activity.pyc  espeak_cmd.pyo  face.pyo   mouth.pyo  TODO
activity.pyo  espeak_gst.py   fft_mouth.py   NEWS   voice.py
aiml  espeak_gst.pyc  fft_mouth.pyc  README voice.pyc
brain.py  espeak_gst.pyo  fft_mouth.pyo  roundbox.pyvoice.pyo
brain.pyc espeak.py   glasses.py roundbox.pyc   waveform_mouth.py
brain.pyo espeak.pyc  glasses.pycroundbox.pyo   waveform_mouth.pyc
chatbox.pyespeak.pyo  glasses.pyosetup.py   waveform_mouth.pyo
chatbox.pyc   eyelashes.pyHACKINGsetup.pyc  wireframes.py
chatbox.pyo   eyelashes.pyc   halfmoon.pysetup.pyo  wireframes.pyc
chat.py   eyelashes.pyo   halfmoon.pyc   sleepy.py  wireframes.pyo
chat.pyc  eye.py  halfmoon.pyo   sleepy.pyc
chat.pyo  eye.pyc icons  sleepy.pyo
COPYING   eye.pyo locale sunglasses.py
* line 23: + rm -rf .0sugar bot

[iain@veyPC ~]$ rpmbuild --rebuild -vv sugar-speak-48-1.fc21.src.rpm
ufdio:   1 reads,15439 total bytes in 0.000103 secs
ufdio:   1 reads, 3680 total bytes in 0.07 secs
ufdio:   1 reads,15439 total bytes in 0.38 secs
Installing sugar-speak-48-1.fc21.src.rpm
warning: user mockbuild 

Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4

2014-11-24 Thread Iain Brown Douglas
On Mon, 2014-11-24 at 12:28 +, Iain Brown Douglas wrote:
 On Sun, 2014-11-23 at 19:15 +, Iain Brown Douglas wrote:
  On Sat, 2014-11-22 at 00:52 -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
   
   The folder bot/ and its contents were not in the
   Speak.activity folder.
   
   I deleted /usr/share/sugar/activities/Speak.activity/
   I re-installed Speak by importing speak-48.xo with a USB
   stick.
   Alice is now running complete with brain.
   
   
   Ok, that confirms the .xo is ok,
   can you uninstall the activity again, and install the activity using
   the rpm?
   The rpm should be named sugar-speak
  
  Same behaviour after:
  
  sudo rpm -evv sugar-speak-48*
  
  then
  
  rpmbuild --rebuild -vv sugar-speak-48-1.fc21.src.rpm
  
  Alice: I don't know what you are talking about
  
  Directory bot/ is again missing
  from /usr/share/sugar/activities/Speak.activity/
  
 Two attachments,
 
 
 1. Speak11-Action2_attach
 
 This is the only mention that I found of the folder bot/ in the install
 logs.
 
 
 I cannot explain the line
 
 + rm -rf .0sugar bot
 
Until I read sugar-speak.spec - line 32.

Iain
 
 2. I made SpeakContentReview in case it throws any light.
 
 As I see it the differences are:
 AUTHORS 
 bot/   
 po/
 *.pyo
 
 
 Environment, hard drive install from Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4.iso
 
 Iain
 
  
  
   Gonzalo
   
   
  
  
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%{!?python_sitelib: %global python_sitelib %(%{__python} -c from distutils.sysconfig import get_python_lib; print(get_python_lib()))}
%{!?python_sitearch: %global python_sitearch %(%{__python} -c from distutils.sysconfig import get_python_lib; print(get_python_lib(1)))}

Name:   sugar-speak
Version:48
Release:1%{?dist}
Summary:Speak for Sugar

Group:  Sugar/Activities
License:GPLv2+ and GPLv3+
URL:http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Speak
Source0:http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/Speak/Speak-%{version}.tar.bz2
BuildArch:  noarch

BuildRequires:  python
BuildRequires:  gettext
BuildRequires:  sugar-toolkit
Requires:   sugar
Requires:   numpy
Requires:   espeak
Requires:   gstreamer-python

%description
Speak is a talking face for the XO laptop. Anything you type will be spoken
aloud using the XO's speech synthesizer, espeak. You can adjust the accent,
rate and pitch of the voice as well as the shape of the eyes and mouth. This
is a great way to experiment with the speech synthesizer, learn to type or 
just have fun making a funny face for your XO.  

%prep
%setup -q -n Speak-%{version}
rm -rf .0sugar bot

%build
python ./setup.py build

%install
python ./setup.py install --prefix=%{buildroot}%{_prefix}
find  %{buildroot}%{sugaractivitydir}Speak.activity/activity.py  -type f -name \* -exec chmod 644 {} \;
%find_lang vu.lux.olpc.Speak

%files -f vu.lux.olpc.Speak.lang
%doc NEWS COPYING
%{sugaractivitydir}/Speak.activity/

%changelog
* Wed Jul 30 2014 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@fedoraproject.org 48-1
- New 48 release

* Sun Jun 08 2014 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org - 47-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Mass_Rebuild

* Thu Oct 17 2013 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@fedoraproject.org
- Add gstreamer-python runtime dependency

* Sun Aug 04 2013 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org - 47-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Mass_Rebuild

* Mon Jun 24 2013 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@fedoraproject.org 47-1
- New 47 release

* Mon May 20 2013 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@fedoraproject.org 46-1
- New 46 release

* Tue Mar  5 2013 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@fedoraproject.org 45-1
- New 45 release

* Fri Feb 15 2013 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org - 44-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Mass_Rebuild

* Thu Nov  8 2012 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@fedoraproject.org 44-1
- New 44 release

* Sun Nov  4 2012 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@fedoraproject.org 43-1
- New 43 release

* Sat Oct  6 2012 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@fedoraproject.org 42-1
- New 42 release

* Sat Jul 21 2012 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org - 41-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Mass_Rebuild

* Wed Jun  6 2012 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@fedoraproject.org - 41-1
- New 41 release

* Tue Jun  5 2012 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@fedoraproject.org - 40-1
- New 40 release

* Sat May 26 2012 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@fedoraproject.org - 39-1
- New 39 release

* Sun Apr 15 2012 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@fedoraproject.org - 38-1
- New 38 release

* Mon Mar 12 2012 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@fedoraproject.org - 

Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4

2014-11-24 Thread Iain Brown Douglas
On Mon, 2014-11-24 at 13:10 -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
 You find it. I don't know why the bot directory should be deleted.
 I cc to peter, who maintain the rpm.
 
I have successfully built Speak (twice in same environment) with a
sugar-speak.spec changed as per attached patch.

Speak works fine and gave acceptable answers to five questions.

Iain
 
 Gonzalo
 
 On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Iain Brown Douglas
 i...@browndouglas.plus.com wrote:
 On Mon, 2014-11-24 at 12:28 +, Iain Brown Douglas wrote:
  On Sun, 2014-11-23 at 19:15 +, Iain Brown Douglas wrote:
   On Sat, 2014-11-22 at 00:52 -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
   
The folder bot/ and its contents were not in the
Speak.activity folder.
   
I
 deleted /usr/share/sugar/activities/Speak.activity/
I re-installed Speak by importing speak-48.xo
 with a USB
stick.
Alice is now running complete with brain.
   
   
Ok, that confirms the .xo is ok,
can you uninstall the activity again, and install the
 activity using
the rpm?
The rpm should be named sugar-speak
  
   Same behaviour after:
  
   sudo rpm -evv sugar-speak-48*
  
   then
  
   rpmbuild --rebuild -vv sugar-speak-48-1.fc21.src.rpm
  
   Alice: I don't know what you are talking about
  
   Directory bot/ is again missing
   from /usr/share/sugar/activities/Speak.activity/
  
  Two attachments,
 
 
  1. Speak11-Action2_attach
 
  This is the only mention that I found of the folder bot/ in
 the install
  logs.
 
 
  I cannot explain the line
 
  + rm -rf .0sugar bot
 
 
 Until I read sugar-speak.spec - line 32.
 
 Iain
 
  2. I made SpeakContentReview in case it throws any light.
 
  As I see it the differences are:
  AUTHORS
  bot/
  po/
  *.pyo
 
 
  Environment, hard drive install from
 Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4.iso
 
  Iain
 
  
  
Gonzalo
   
   
  
  
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--- sugar-speak.spec-orig	2014-11-24 22:22:20.651366844 +
+++ sugar-speak.spec	2014-11-24 16:11:15.0 +
@@ -29,7 +29,7 @@
 
 %prep
 %setup -q -n Speak-%{version}
-rm -rf .0sugar bot
+rm -rf .0sugar
 
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Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4

2014-11-23 Thread Iain Brown Douglas
On Sat, 2014-11-22 at 00:52 -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
 
 The folder bot/ and its contents were not in the
 Speak.activity folder.
 
 I deleted /usr/share/sugar/activities/Speak.activity/
 I re-installed Speak by importing speak-48.xo with a USB
 stick.
 Alice is now running complete with brain.
 
 
 Ok, that confirms the .xo is ok,
 can you uninstall the activity again, and install the activity using
 the rpm?
 The rpm should be named sugar-speak

Same behaviour after:

sudo rpm -evv sugar-speak-48*

then

rpmbuild --rebuild -vv sugar-speak-48-1.fc21.src.rpm

Alice: I don't know what you are talking about

Directory bot/ is again missing
from /usr/share/sugar/activities/Speak.activity/

I wanted to analyse the output of rpmbuild, so asked for -vv, verbose.

Sadly my notes are top-truncated. So I might have to repeat tomorrow.

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Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4

2014-11-22 Thread Peter Robinson
 On Fri, 2014-11-21 at 11:55 -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
  Hi Iain,
  Can you copy the attached file to the path where the help activity is
  installed
  and confirm if the problem is solved?

 Yes, Help now starts and displays complete with images.


 Perfect. I will do a new release.


  The activity should start and show the images
  in the help pages.

 However, I have not seen Help available from any tested Activity's icon
 in the Frame.


 Right, we need apply a patch in Sugar to do the same change.
 Maybe we can include the patch in the rpm too, if we don't have a new
 release
 before F21.

New release of what before F-21? I've seen the new Help and I'll push
that as an update today. I'm going to file for a freeze exception to
get a few Activities updated for GA but Fedora is now in freeze so any
other fixes need to be ASAP.

Peter


 
  On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Gonzalo Odiard
  godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
  Thanks by the logs.
  Now I understand what is happening with the Help activity.
  Our hack to create symlinks for the _static and _images
  directories
  don't work if the activity is installed in /usr because we
  don't have write permission.
  One alternative is rewrite the links at the client side with
  javascript.
 
 
  I don't understand what is happening with the Memorize
  activity.
 
 
  About Speak, please check if there are a file bot/alice.brn in
  the activity directory.
  The file is included in the
  sources
  http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/Speak/Speak-48.tar.bz2
 
 
  Gonzalo
 
 
 
  On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Iain Brown Douglas
  i...@browndouglas.plus.com wrote:
 
  Thank you for all the work put into this new version
  of Sugar on a
  Stick.
 
  In brief testing, Sugar on a Stick prepared on a USB
  stick with
  Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4.iso seems to run
  mostly as expected.
 
  Help is not available from any tested Activity's icon
  in the Frame.
  Help 17.2 does not start, reports Help Failed to
  Start.
 
  Speak  48, works in type some text mode. In ask a
  question mode
  Alice always replies I do not understand what you are
  talking about
 
  Memorize 48, does not start, reports Memorize Failed
  to Start.
 
  Etoys 116 fails.
  A dialog Cannot find image file: squeak, did you run
  'initsqueak -m'?
  is seen, followed by a Sorry, best to abandon (or
  similar) message.
 
  Alternatively,
  [liveuser@localhost ~]$ inisqueak -m
  No default image, looking for alternatives...
 
  I could not find an image to install.
  Did you install squeak-image?
  Please check your Squeak installation.
 
  In the second case Etoys opens, rapidly becomes
  unusable, and will
  will not close with Stop button,
 
 
  I have attached logs from the 4 Activities.
 
  With thanks
 
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Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4

2014-11-22 Thread Iain Brown Douglas
On Sat, 2014-11-22 at 00:52 -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:

 
 
 Ok, that confirms the .xo is ok,
 can you uninstall the activity again, and install the activity using
 the rpm?
 The rpm should be named sugar-speak
 
Sorry, Gonzalo, I am not sure what source of .rpm you are suggesting I
should try to test.

I found this source for sugar-speak.rpm:

sugar-speak-47-3.fc20.src.rpm

at
http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/20/Fedora/source/SRPMS/s/

but I have not so far found a

sugar-speak-48 _filed_under_Fedora21_ .rpm

Iain
 
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Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4

2014-11-22 Thread Jean THIERY

Hello,

On 22/11/2014 13:58, Peter Robinson has written :
 ...
 ... I'm going to file for a freeze exception to
 get a few Activities updated for GA but Fedora is now in freeze
 so any other fixes need to be ASAP.

 Peter

Have you had enough time to look at a previous message
(Tue, 18 Nov 2014) ?

- EToys-116Ref: Iain Brown Douglas on 2014-11-21
- Help-17.2Ref: Iain Brown Douglas on 2014-11-21
- Jukebox-??
- Memorize-??  Ref: Iain Brown Douglas on 2014-11-21
- Read-??
- Speak-48 Ref: Iain Brown Douglas on 2014-11-21
- Write-95

*The complete previous message is copied below*

Soon on Internet,

Jean [Jean.Thiery(ò)ModLibre.info][http://ModLibre.info/]

=== Previous message ==

To whom it may concern:

Hello,

Below, yo will find complementary tests of SoaS v14 beta 4
with activities INCLUDED in the standard distribution.

Tests were performed on a USB key prepared with
« Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4.iso » (Nov-2014)
https://fedoraproject.org/get-spin-prerelease

All tests were performed after setting the language into French.
The corresponding English versions could behave differently !

Systematic tests were not performed,
only simple tests were launched.

THANK YOU very much for many improvements in SoaS 11.

Walter : THANK YOU for changes in Physics and Pippy
Physics-22 has been replaced by Physics-23 : OK
Pippy-61 has been replaced by Pippy-62 : OK

Soon on Internet,

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General comments


In the French version, there is no icon in the « My parameters » menu
for changing from the Sugar environment into the Gnome environment.

the Safety Wifi Code « Clé de chiffrement » is not stored.
It has to be retyped for each new Wifi connexion.

How can we install an earlier version of an activity
when the present version does not work ?
See below for different activities.



List of Activities INCLUDED in the standard distribution
with problems in the Beta-4 version



EToys-116 ==

EToys-116 displays
« Cannot find image file: squeak, did you run 'initsqueak -m'? »
After clicking on this message,
the screen is filled by cars and is not usable.

EToys-113 was downloaded from SugarLabs and installed
but EToys-116 was still appearing in the activity list!


Help-17.2 ==

Help-17 could not start - « Help n'a pas pu être démarré ».

Help-15 was downloaded from SugarLabs and installed
but Help-15 was still appearing in the activity list!

Jukebox-?? =

*Jukebox* appears in « /usr/share/sugar/activities »
but does not appear in the activity circle (no *Jukebox* icon)
nor in the activity list (no *Jukebox* line).

Jukebox-26 was downloaded from SugarLabs and installed.
Jukebox-26 seems to works normally.


Memorize-?? 

*Memorize* appears in « /usr/share/sugar/activities »
but does not appear in the activity circle (no *Memorize* icon)
nor in the activity list (no *Memorize* line).

Memorize-45 was downloaded from SugarLabs and installed.
Memorize-45 seems to works normally.


Read-?? 

*Read* appears in « /usr/share/sugar/activities »
but does not appear in the activity circle (no *Read* icon)
nor in the activity list (no *Read* line).

Read-92 was downloaded from SugarLabs and installed.
Read does not appear in the activity list.
Read appears in the activity circle
but could not start - « Read n'a pas pu être démarré ».

Read-114 was proposed for updating Read-92
but its installation was not completed.


Speak-48 ===

Speak-48 behaves like an English-speaking robot in all 3 modes
- « Read a text »
- « Ask a question to the robot »
- « Discussion »
with an English voice (no word in French).

Speak-46 was downloaded from SugarLabs and installed
but Speak-48 was still appearing in the activity list!

Write-95 ===

Write-95 quits if we try to pronounce a selected text
with the text-to-speech icon.

Write-79 was downloaded from SugarLabs and installed
but Write-95 was still appearing in the activity list!

ALL OTHER ACTIVITIES ===

No apparent problem : THANK YOU

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Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4

2014-11-22 Thread Iain Brown Douglas
On Sat, 2014-11-22 at 00:52 -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:

 
 can you uninstall the activity again, and install the activity using
 the rpm?
 The rpm should be named sugar-speak

I am unfamiliar with the process, and (over-) aware of time constraints.

Working on SoaS, in Terminal Activity, I was not able to install Speak
from .rpm

Attached is a precis of my notes.

Ideally I would read the manual before disclosing my failure, but I am
out of time. :)

Iain

 Gonzalo
 
 

First erase Speak from Home View List, check its gone.

Copy sugar-speak-48-1.fc21.src.rpm to ~

[liveuser@localhost ~]$ su

[root@localhost liveuser]# rpm -iv sugar-speak-48-1.fc21.src.rpm 
sugar-speak-48-1.fc21.noarch
warning: user mockbuild does not exist - using root
warning: group mockbuild does not exist - using root
warning: user mockbuild does not exist - using root
warning: group mockbuild does not exist - using root
[root@localhost liveuser]#
#
* Was this a fail? Speak not found.

[liveuser@localhost ~]$ ls
Activities  Desktop  Documents  Downloads  Music  Pictures  Public  rpmbuild  
Templates  Videos

* I see rpmbuild was created.

[liveuser@localhost ~]$ cd rpmbuild/

[liveuser@localhost rpmbuild]$ ls -R
.:
SOURCES  SPECS

./SOURCES:
Speak-48.tar.bz2

./SPECS:
sugar-speak.spec

* Is some success?

[liveuser@localhost ~]$ rpm -ql sugar-speak-48-1.fc21.rpm
package sugar-speak-48-1.fc21.rpm is not installed

* Is a fail. Why?
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Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4

2014-11-22 Thread Bert Freudenberg

 On 22.11.2014, at 15:15, Jean THIERY jean.thi...@modlibre.info wrote:
 
 EToys-116 displays
 « Cannot find image file: squeak, did you run 'initsqueak -m'? »
 After clicking on this message,
 the screen is filled by cars and is not usable.

That looks weird ... does it work if you run etoys from the Terminal activity?

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Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4

2014-11-22 Thread Thomas C. Gilliard


On 11/22/2014 04:58 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:

On Fri, 2014-11-21 at 11:55 -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:

Hi Iain,
Can you copy the attached file to the path where the help activity is
installed
and confirm if the problem is solved?

Yes, Help now starts and displays complete with images.


Perfect. I will do a new release.


The activity should start and show the images
in the help pages.

However, I have not seen Help available from any tested Activity's icon
in the Frame.


Right, we need apply a patch in Sugar to do the same change.
Maybe we can include the patch in the rpm too, if we don't have a new
release
before F21.

New release of what before F-21? I've seen the new Help and I'll push
that as an update today. I'm going to file for a freeze exception to
get a few Activities updated for GA but Fedora is now in freeze so any
other fixes need to be ASAP.

Peter
Look at these screen shots of an install of SoaS Beta_final_ TC3 (errors 
in logs app.)[1]

 Memorize and Portfolio are shown listed
 Note that Help-18 now works (from software update)

Tom Gilliard
satellit

[1] 
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_21#F21_TC3_SoaS_Application_Errors_.28log_app.29





On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Gonzalo Odiard
godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
 Thanks by the logs.
 Now I understand what is happening with the Help activity.
 Our hack to create symlinks for the _static and _images
 directories
 don't work if the activity is installed in /usr because we
 don't have write permission.
 One alternative is rewrite the links at the client side with
 javascript.


 I don't understand what is happening with the Memorize
 activity.


 About Speak, please check if there are a file bot/alice.brn in
 the activity directory.
 The file is included in the
 sources
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/Speak/Speak-48.tar.bz2


 Gonzalo



 On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Iain Brown Douglas
 i...@browndouglas.plus.com wrote:

 Thank you for all the work put into this new version
 of Sugar on a
 Stick.

 In brief testing, Sugar on a Stick prepared on a USB
 stick with
 Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4.iso seems to run
 mostly as expected.

 Help is not available from any tested Activity's icon
 in the Frame.
 Help 17.2 does not start, reports Help Failed to
 Start.

 Speak  48, works in type some text mode. In ask a
 question mode
 Alice always replies I do not understand what you are
 talking about

 Memorize 48, does not start, reports Memorize Failed
 to Start.

 Etoys 116 fails.
 A dialog Cannot find image file: squeak, did you run
 'initsqueak -m'?
 is seen, followed by a Sorry, best to abandon (or
 similar) message.

 Alternatively,
 [liveuser@localhost ~]$ inisqueak -m
 No default image, looking for alternatives...

 I could not find an image to install.
 Did you install squeak-image?
 Please check your Squeak installation.

 In the second case Etoys opens, rapidly becomes
 unusable, and will
 will not close with Stop button,


 I have attached logs from the 4 Activities.

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Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4

2014-11-21 Thread Iain Brown Douglas
On Fri, 2014-11-21 at 11:55 -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
 Hi Iain,
 Can you copy the attached file to the path where the help activity is
 installed
 and confirm if the problem is solved?

Yes, Help now starts and displays complete with images.
 The activity should start and show the images
 in the help pages. 

However, I have not seen Help available from any tested Activity's icon
in the Frame.
 
 Gonzalo
 
 On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Gonzalo Odiard
 godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
 Thanks by the logs.
 Now I understand what is happening with the Help activity.
 Our hack to create symlinks for the _static and _images
 directories
 don't work if the activity is installed in /usr because we
 don't have write permission.
 One alternative is rewrite the links at the client side with
 javascript.
 
 
 I don't understand what is happening with the Memorize
 activity.
 
 
 About Speak, please check if there are a file bot/alice.brn in
 the activity directory.
 The file is included in the
 sources 
 http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/Speak/Speak-48.tar.bz2
 
 
 Gonzalo
 
 
 
 On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Iain Brown Douglas
 i...@browndouglas.plus.com wrote:
 
 Thank you for all the work put into this new version
 of Sugar on a
 Stick.
 
 In brief testing, Sugar on a Stick prepared on a USB
 stick with
 Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4.iso seems to run
 mostly as expected.
 
 Help is not available from any tested Activity's icon
 in the Frame.
 Help 17.2 does not start, reports Help Failed to
 Start.
 
 Speak  48, works in type some text mode. In ask a
 question mode
 Alice always replies I do not understand what you are
 talking about
 
 Memorize 48, does not start, reports Memorize Failed
 to Start.
 
 Etoys 116 fails.
 A dialog Cannot find image file: squeak, did you run
 'initsqueak -m'?
 is seen, followed by a Sorry, best to abandon (or
 similar) message.
 
 Alternatively,
 [liveuser@localhost ~]$ inisqueak -m
 No default image, looking for alternatives...
 
 I could not find an image to install.
 Did you install squeak-image?
 Please check your Squeak installation.
 
 In the second case Etoys opens, rapidly becomes
 unusable, and will
 will not close with Stop button,
 
 
 I have attached logs from the 4 Activities.
 
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