Re: Softimage crash when loading a 2gb scene
Thanks Matt and Raffaele. I heard that other DCC also have difficulties loading 2GB data. Does anyone have a different view on this? Chris On 28 Nov, 2012, at 3:21 AM, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.commailto:ml...@carbinestudios.com wrote: There's plenty of data in the samples project to make large scene files. Create a few high resolution objects, rig them to the default skeleton, apply all the sample motion capture data from Jaiqua and Clubbot, duplicate that data a bunch of times, then paste to the timeline as plotted FCurves. In our production one fully rigged character of 20,000 polygons, 75 enveloped bones/nulls, with 60,000 frames of FCurve animation data spanning 1,000 parameters will equal about 130 MB on disc as a scene file. That's with the rig referenced in the scene. The rig consumes another 20 MB. S, make something like that and dupilcate it 20 times in a scene and you'll have a 2 GB file. Primarily FCurve data creating the size. Matt From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Raffaele Fragapane [raffsxsil...@googlemail.commailto:raffsxsil...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:04 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Softimage crash when loading a 2gb scene Last I tried to repro that, but it was a while ago, just duplicating geometry ad nauseam until the scene file inflated enough was hit and miss. Making a deep hierarchy of nulls, duplicating it, and daisy chain constraining it a few times (dozens) and having the geo under that though would always mess things up bang on at the file size limit mark. You can give that a shot, maybe it still works, or rather, doesn't :) On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Chris Chia chris.c...@autodesk.commailto:chris.c...@autodesk.com wrote: Forgot to mention that it would be better to give us a working file (before it hits the 2gb data) which can be opened and tell us what steps you did to make it not working when you tried to reopen again... Just provide the link to your dropbox here :D Chris -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Chia Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 5:58 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: Softimage crash when loading a 2gb scene Hi Guys, Is it possible to send us a 2gb scene? Make it available at dropbox or something... We are doing some investigation to see what we can do to this defect. Keep the files coming... Many thanks Regards, Chris -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Mathieu Dufresne Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 12:09 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: Softimage crash when loading a 2gb scene Yes we did have this problem. The only workaround we found was to split the scene into smaller parts. MatDuf -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Sebastien Guillemette Sent: 18 octobre 2012 12:06 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Softimage crash when loading a 2gb scene Hey guys, I have an heavy scene with alot of objects. The scene opens fine up until a point where I load one more object and once saved the file goes above 2gb in size (at 1.9gb it was openning fine). It doesn't seems to be the object itself since I made some test with different props. It always happen when the file size is above 2gb. When it does, it just doesn't load, Softimage crash while loading. I'll keep doing more test to make sure it's not one of my objects that's causing the problem..but well... Anyone else had this problem? -- Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it and let them flee like the dogs they are! attachment: winmail.dat
RE: Softimage crash when loading a 2gb scene
There's plenty of data in the samples project to make large scene files. Create a few high resolution objects, rig them to the default skeleton, apply all the sample motion capture data from Jaiqua and Clubbot, duplicate that data a bunch of times, then paste to the timeline as plotted FCurves. In our production one fully rigged character of 20,000 polygons, 75 enveloped bones/nulls, with 60,000 frames of FCurve animation data spanning 1,000 parameters will equal about 130 MB on disc as a scene file. That's with the rig referenced in the scene. The rig consumes another 20 MB. S, make something like that and dupilcate it 20 times in a scene and you'll have a 2 GB file. Primarily FCurve data creating the size. Matt From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Raffaele Fragapane [raffsxsil...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:04 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Softimage crash when loading a 2gb scene Last I tried to repro that, but it was a while ago, just duplicating geometry ad nauseam until the scene file inflated enough was hit and miss. Making a deep hierarchy of nulls, duplicating it, and daisy chain constraining it a few times (dozens) and having the geo under that though would always mess things up bang on at the file size limit mark. You can give that a shot, maybe it still works, or rather, doesn't :) On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Chris Chia chris.c...@autodesk.commailto:chris.c...@autodesk.com wrote: Forgot to mention that it would be better to give us a working file (before it hits the 2gb data) which can be opened and tell us what steps you did to make it not working when you tried to reopen again... Just provide the link to your dropbox here :D Chris -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Chia Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 5:58 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: Softimage crash when loading a 2gb scene Hi Guys, Is it possible to send us a 2gb scene? Make it available at dropbox or something... We are doing some investigation to see what we can do to this defect. Keep the files coming... Many thanks Regards, Chris -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Mathieu Dufresne Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 12:09 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: Softimage crash when loading a 2gb scene Yes we did have this problem. The only workaround we found was to split the scene into smaller parts. MatDuf -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Sebastien Guillemette Sent: 18 octobre 2012 12:06 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Softimage crash when loading a 2gb scene Hey guys, I have an heavy scene with alot of objects. The scene opens fine up until a point where I load one more object and once saved the file goes above 2gb in size (at 1.9gb it was openning fine). It doesn't seems to be the object itself since I made some test with different props. It always happen when the file size is above 2gb. When it does, it just doesn't load, Softimage crash while loading. I'll keep doing more test to make sure it's not one of my objects that's causing the problem..but well... Anyone else had this problem? -- Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it and let them flee like the dogs they are!
RE: Softimage crash when loading a 2gb scene
Hi Guys, Is it possible to send us a 2gb scene? Make it available at dropbox or something... We are doing some investigation to see what we can do to this defect. Keep the files coming... Many thanks Regards, Chris -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Mathieu Dufresne Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 12:09 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: Softimage crash when loading a 2gb scene Yes we did have this problem. The only workaround we found was to split the scene into smaller parts. MatDuf -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Sebastien Guillemette Sent: 18 octobre 2012 12:06 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Softimage crash when loading a 2gb scene Hey guys, I have an heavy scene with alot of objects. The scene opens fine up until a point where I load one more object and once saved the file goes above 2gb in size (at 1.9gb it was openning fine). It doesn't seems to be the object itself since I made some test with different props. It always happen when the file size is above 2gb. When it does, it just doesn't load, Softimage crash while loading. I'll keep doing more test to make sure it's not one of my objects that's causing the problem..but well... Anyone else had this problem? attachment: winmail.dat
RE: Softimage crash when loading a 2gb scene
Forgot to mention that it would be better to give us a working file (before it hits the 2gb data) which can be opened and tell us what steps you did to make it not working when you tried to reopen again... Just provide the link to your dropbox here :D Chris -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Chia Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 5:58 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: Softimage crash when loading a 2gb scene Hi Guys, Is it possible to send us a 2gb scene? Make it available at dropbox or something... We are doing some investigation to see what we can do to this defect. Keep the files coming... Many thanks Regards, Chris -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Mathieu Dufresne Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 12:09 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: Softimage crash when loading a 2gb scene Yes we did have this problem. The only workaround we found was to split the scene into smaller parts. MatDuf -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Sebastien Guillemette Sent: 18 octobre 2012 12:06 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Softimage crash when loading a 2gb scene Hey guys, I have an heavy scene with alot of objects. The scene opens fine up until a point where I load one more object and once saved the file goes above 2gb in size (at 1.9gb it was openning fine). It doesn't seems to be the object itself since I made some test with different props. It always happen when the file size is above 2gb. When it does, it just doesn't load, Softimage crash while loading. I'll keep doing more test to make sure it's not one of my objects that's causing the problem..but well... Anyone else had this problem? attachment: winmail.dat
Re: Softimage crash when loading a 2gb scene
Last I tried to repro that, but it was a while ago, just duplicating geometry ad nauseam until the scene file inflated enough was hit and miss. Making a deep hierarchy of nulls, duplicating it, and daisy chain constraining it a few times (dozens) and having the geo under that though would always mess things up bang on at the file size limit mark. You can give that a shot, maybe it still works, or rather, doesn't :) On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Chris Chia chris.c...@autodesk.com wrote: Forgot to mention that it would be better to give us a working file (before it hits the 2gb data) which can be opened and tell us what steps you did to make it not working when you tried to reopen again... Just provide the link to your dropbox here :D Chris -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Chia Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 5:58 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: Softimage crash when loading a 2gb scene Hi Guys, Is it possible to send us a 2gb scene? Make it available at dropbox or something... We are doing some investigation to see what we can do to this defect. Keep the files coming... Many thanks Regards, Chris -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Mathieu Dufresne Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 12:09 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: Softimage crash when loading a 2gb scene Yes we did have this problem. The only workaround we found was to split the scene into smaller parts. MatDuf -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Sebastien Guillemette Sent: 18 octobre 2012 12:06 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Softimage crash when loading a 2gb scene Hey guys, I have an heavy scene with alot of objects. The scene opens fine up until a point where I load one more object and once saved the file goes above 2gb in size (at 1.9gb it was openning fine). It doesn't seems to be the object itself since I made some test with different props. It always happen when the file size is above 2gb. When it does, it just doesn't load, Softimage crash while loading. I'll keep doing more test to make sure it's not one of my objects that's causing the problem..but well... Anyone else had this problem? -- Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it and let them flee like the dogs they are!
Re: Softimage crash when loading a 2gb scene
Hi Chris, We are on Soft2013 SP1 x64 and Jseb got 12 Gb of Ram in the machine He started playing around with Arnold Stand-Inswich is so far pretty pretty positive.. thnks sly Chris Chia Friday, October 19, 2012 9:47 PM It might be nice to know what version of XSI, whether it's a x64 or 32, and the amount of ram your machine has?Chris Jean-Sebastien Guillemette Thursday, October 18, 2012 12:05 PM Hey guys, I have an heavy scene with alot of objects. The scene opens fine up until a point where I load one more object and once saved the file goes above 2gb in size (at 1.9gb it was openning fine). It doesn't seems to be the object itself since I made some test with different props. It always happen when the file size is above 2gb. When it does, it just doesn't load, Softimage crash while loading. I'll keep doing more test to make sure it's not one of my objects that's causing the problem..but well... Anyone else had this problem? -- Sylvain Lebeau // SHED V-P/Visual effects supervisor 1410, RUE STANLEY, 11E TAGE MONTRAL (QUBEC) H3A 1P8 T 514 849-1555 F 514 849-5025 WWW.SHEDMTL.COM http://WWW.SHEDMTL.COM
Re: Softimage crash when loading a 2gb scene
It might be nice to know what version of XSI, whether it's a x64 or 32, and the amount of ram your machine has? Chris On 19 Oct, 2012, at 12:06 AM, Jean-Sebastien Guillemette j...@shedmtl.com wrote: Hey guys, I have an heavy scene with alot of objects. The scene opens fine up until a point where I load one more object and once saved the file goes above 2gb in size (at 1.9gb it was openning fine). It doesn't seems to be the object itself since I made some test with different props. It always happen when the file size is above 2gb. When it does, it just doesn't load, Softimage crash while loading. I'll keep doing more test to make sure it's not one of my objects that's causing the problem..but well... Anyone else had this problem? attachment: winmail.dat
Softimage crash when loading a 2gb scene
Hey guys, I have an heavy scene with alot of objects. The scene opens fine up until a point where I load one more object and once saved the file goes above 2gb in size (at 1.9gb it was openning fine). It doesn't seems to be the object itself since I made some test with different props. It always happen when the file size is above 2gb. When it does, it just doesn't load, Softimage crash while loading. I'll keep doing more test to make sure it's not one of my objects that's causing the problem..but well... Anyone else had this problem?
RE: Softimage crash when loading a 2gb scene
Yes we did have this problem. The only workaround we found was to split the scene into smaller parts. MatDuf -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Sebastien Guillemette Sent: 18 octobre 2012 12:06 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Softimage crash when loading a 2gb scene Hey guys, I have an heavy scene with alot of objects. The scene opens fine up until a point where I load one more object and once saved the file goes above 2gb in size (at 1.9gb it was openning fine). It doesn't seems to be the object itself since I made some test with different props. It always happen when the file size is above 2gb. When it does, it just doesn't load, Softimage crash while loading. I'll keep doing more test to make sure it's not one of my objects that's causing the problem..but well... Anyone else had this problem?
Re: Softimage crash when loading a 2gb scene
I believe this is a limitation within Softimage itself and was discussed on this list a couple years ago. -ben On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Jean-Sebastien Guillemette j...@shedmtl.com wrote: Hey guys, I have an heavy scene with alot of objects. The scene opens fine up until a point where I load one more object and once saved the file goes above 2gb in size (at 1.9gb it was openning fine). It doesn't seems to be the object itself since I made some test with different props. It always happen when the file size is above 2gb. When it does, it just doesn't load, Softimage crash while loading. I'll keep doing more test to make sure it's not one of my objects that's causing the problem..but well... Anyone else had this problem? -- Best regards, Ben Houston Voice: 613-762-4113 Skype: ben.exocortex Twitter: @exocortexcom http://Exocortex.com - Passionate CG Software Professionals.
RE: Softimage crash when loading a 2gb scene
Yup. This is a known issue. Anything over the 2gb mark and that scene is sleepin' with the fishes. g -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Sebastien Guillemette Sent: 18 October 2012 17:06 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Softimage crash when loading a 2gb scene Hey guys, I have an heavy scene with alot of objects. The scene opens fine up until a point where I load one more object and once saved the file goes above 2gb in size (at 1.9gb it was openning fine). It doesn't seems to be the object itself since I made some test with different props. It always happen when the file size is above 2gb. When it does, it just doesn't load, Softimage crash while loading. I'll keep doing more test to make sure it's not one of my objects that's causing the problem..but well... Anyone else had this problem?
Re: Softimage crash when loading a 2gb scene
Here is a previous discussion of the issue: https://groups.google.com/group/xsi_list/browse_thread/thread/f1e2ff4e0be65b54/e676c06a0f675317 -ben On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Ben Houston b...@exocortex.com wrote: I believe this is a limitation within Softimage itself and was discussed on this list a couple years ago. -ben On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Jean-Sebastien Guillemette j...@shedmtl.com wrote: Hey guys, I have an heavy scene with alot of objects. The scene opens fine up until a point where I load one more object and once saved the file goes above 2gb in size (at 1.9gb it was openning fine). It doesn't seems to be the object itself since I made some test with different props. It always happen when the file size is above 2gb. When it does, it just doesn't load, Softimage crash while loading. I'll keep doing more test to make sure it's not one of my objects that's causing the problem..but well... Anyone else had this problem? -- Best regards, Ben Houston Voice: 613-762-4113 Skype: ben.exocortex Twitter: @exocortexcom http://Exocortex.com - Passionate CG Software Professionals. -- Best regards, Ben Houston Voice: 613-762-4113 Skype: ben.exocortex Twitter: @exocortexcom http://Exocortex.com - Passionate CG Software Professionals.
RE: Softimage crash when loading a 2gb scene
Using reference models might be a solution to avoid such large file scenes Cheers Dav♪d Th♪bodeau || Artiste 3D || Tél: (514) 848-0579 (2525) -Original Message- From: Ben Houston [mailto:b...@exocortex.com] Sent: October-18-12 12:09 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Softimage crash when loading a 2gb scene I believe this is a limitation within Softimage itself and was discussed on this list a couple years ago. -ben On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Jean-Sebastien Guillemette j...@shedmtl.com wrote: Hey guys, I have an heavy scene with alot of objects. The scene opens fine up until a point where I load one more object and once saved the file goes above 2gb in size (at 1.9gb it was openning fine). It doesn't seems to be the object itself since I made some test with different props. It always happen when the file size is above 2gb. When it does, it just doesn't load, Softimage crash while loading. I'll keep doing more test to make sure it's not one of my objects that's causing the problem..but well... Anyone else had this problem? -- Best regards, Ben Houston Voice: 613-762-4113 Skype: ben.exocortex Twitter: @exocortexcom http://Exocortex.com - Passionate CG Software Professionals.
