[Spacewalk-devel] Large changes from dropping monitoring and solaris support

2014-12-17 Thread Stephen Herr

Hey everyone,

In preparation for Spacewalk 2.3 I have merged the perl-removal branch 
into master, which (among other things) drops support for solaris and 
monitoring. This is a large change, involving the deletion of many 
database tables and obsoleting many packages. I will work to get master 
back into a stable state, but I fully expect that there will be things 
that are broken in the short-term. We need to work everything out now so 
that Spacewalk 2.3 is stable and functional.


If you notice problems related to solaris or monitoring being mentioned 
in remaining pages, installers, tools, or problems related to upgrading 
schema or packages, please help fix them or point them out to me so that 
we can get everything stable for 2.3.


Thanks!

-Stephen

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Re: [Spacewalk-devel] Large changes from dropping monitoring and solaris support

2014-12-17 Thread Duncan Mac-Vicar P.
On 12/17/2014 04:41 PM, Stephen Herr wrote:
 Hey everyone,
 
 In preparation for Spacewalk 2.3 I have merged the perl-removal branch
 into master, which (among other things) drops support for solaris and
 monitoring. This is a large change, involving the deletion of many
 database tables and obsoleting many packages. I will work to get master
 back into a stable state, but I fully expect that there will be things
 that are broken in the short-term. We need to work everything out now so
 that Spacewalk 2.3 is stable and functional.
 
 If you notice problems related to solaris or monitoring being mentioned
 in remaining pages, installers, tools, or problems related to upgrading
 schema or packages, please help fix them or point them out to me so that
 we can get everything stable for 2.3.

Monitoring integrated somehow with the overview/alerts page.

Will some infrastructure remain in place so that in the future some
external monitoring system can be plugged in?

We have a plugin that sends Spacewalk data - Nagios and it could make
sense providing the reverse. Spacewalk would offer just a coord that
can be plugged into some monitoring system with an adaptor and you would
see some basic status of the systems registered in both inside Spacewalk.

If there are ideas around it, it could enable our team to contribute to
that.

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Re: [Spacewalk-devel] Large changes from dropping monitoring and solaris support

2014-12-17 Thread Jonathan Hoser
On 12/17/2014 04:54 PM, Duncan Mac-Vicar P. wrote:
 On 12/17/2014 04:41 PM, Stephen Herr wrote:
 Hey everyone,

 In preparation for Spacewalk 2.3 I have merged the perl-removal branch
 into master, which (among other things) drops support for solaris and
 monitoring. This is a large change, involving the deletion of many
 database tables and obsoleting many packages. I will work to get master
 back into a stable state, but I fully expect that there will be things
 that are broken in the short-term. We need to work everything out now so
 that Spacewalk 2.3 is stable and functional.

 If you notice problems related to solaris or monitoring being mentioned
 in remaining pages, installers, tools, or problems related to upgrading
 schema or packages, please help fix them or point them out to me so that
 we can get everything stable for 2.3.
 Monitoring integrated somehow with the overview/alerts page.

 Will some infrastructure remain in place so that in the future some
 external monitoring system can be plugged in?

 We have a plugin that sends Spacewalk data - Nagios and it could make
 sense providing the reverse. Spacewalk would offer just a coord that
 can be plugged into some monitoring system with an adaptor and you would
 see some basic status of the systems registered in both inside Spacewalk.

 If there are ideas around it, it could enable our team to contribute to
 that.
With that topic of integration around - I propose the vague idea of an
interface
to intersect system-status pages with something like Racktables or similar
e.g. for location or rack-management.

Just food for thought...

Two thumbs up for the perl-removal, thought!

Best
-Jonathan

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Re: [Spacewalk-devel] Large changes from dropping monitoring and solaris support

2014-12-17 Thread Stephen Herr

On 12/17/2014 10:54 AM, Duncan Mac-Vicar P. wrote:

Monitoring integrated somehow with the overview/alerts page.

Will some infrastructure remain in place so that in the future some
external monitoring system can be plugged in?

We have a plugin that sends Spacewalk data - Nagios and it could make
sense providing the reverse. Spacewalk would offer just a coord that
can be plugged into some monitoring system with an adaptor and you would
see some basic status of the systems registered in both inside Spacewalk.

If there are ideas around it, it could enable our team to contribute to
that.


The infrastructure (tables, code) that was in place was pretty specific 
and tightly-coupled to Spacewalk's monitoring solution. I think that 
some form of integration with third-party monitoring is a great idea, 
but I think that support for that would have had to be written from 
scratch even if we were not removing Spacewalk's monitoring. But feel 
free to revert deletions of things that can be re-used with this new 
feature as you work on it.


-Stephen

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