[Spacewalk-devel] spacewalk-dobby replacement
Hi! Here at SUSE we were working at Dobby replacement and we would like to know what could be missing from the things that we already achieved. We thought to make it exact Python clone and extend with PostgreSQL support, but then we realized that we can make it even better, deprecating cold backups and related things to that. Done: = 1. Works with Oracle DB and PostgreSQL. 2. No DBI drivers at all, no dependencies like that. It is just a wrapper for SQL*Plus, RMAN and psql utilities. 3. No configuration at all, except it reads main rhn.conf what DB is configured at the very moment. The rest it detects from Oracle DB-related or PostgreSQL-related files separately. 4. Automatically changes set of commands available. For example, it allows restart only listeners in Oracle, but no such feature for PostgreSQL. 5. Hot backups for Oracle and PostgreSQL. No longer need to stop entire system just to snapshot the db. 6. Never executes external processes with '... /dev/null ; printing Done no matter what, but actually waits for the actual result and tells you everything in details. 7. Oracle is put to autoextend mode, reporting free space. The extend tablespace feature is just dropped. 8. No need of su - oracle (or su - postgres) any longer. :-) Just make sure your user has sudo rights. 9. Renamed to mgr-db. This will also deprecate customer scripts for previous db-control. Commands are incompatible. To do: == 1. (Critical) Automatically dealing with archivelog for Oracle DB, so it won't blow away the entire disk space. 2. (Later) Add XML output, so the utility might be also crontabbed and integrated into a Spacewalk directly, with no more CLI intervention. Code Documentation: = Soon on our GitHub. Hopefully, next week. CLIshots: = Overview: $ sudo ./mgr-db SUSE Manager Database Control. Version 1.0 Copyright (c) by SUSE Linux Products GmbH Available commands on Postgresql database: backup-hot Perform host database backup. backup-status Show backup status. db-startStart the SUSE Manager Database. db-status Show database status. db-stop Stop the SUSE Manager Database. space-overview Show database space report. space-reclaim Free disk space from unused object in tables and indexes. space-tablesShow space report for each table. system-checkCommon backend healthcheck. Config check: $ sudo ./mgr-db system-check INFO: Database needs to be restarted. INFO: Wrote new client auth configuration. Backup as /var/lib/pgsql/data/pg_hba.2012-05-02-15-13-39.conf Stopping core...done Starting core...done Database is online System check finished Space Overview: $ sudo ./mgr-db space-overview Tablespace | Size (Mb) | Avail (Mb) | Use % +---++-- template1 | 6 | 91645 | 0.006 template0 | 6 | 91645 | 0.006 postgres| 5 | 91646 | 0.005 susemanager | 37| 91613 | 0.041 Backup options: $ sudo ./mgr-db backup-hot help SUSE Manager Database Control. Version 1.0 Copyright (c) by SUSE Linux Products GmbH Command: backup-hot Description: Perform host database backup. Parameters: --enableEnable or disable hot backups. Values: on | off | purge --destination Destination directory of the backup. Adding help to each command will print you what it is and what are other params available. P.S. Written in Python. -- Bo Maryniuk SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer I had a dream... and there were 1's and 0's everywhere, and I think I saw a 2! ___ Spacewalk-devel mailing list Spacewalk-devel@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/spacewalk-devel
[Spacewalk-devel] spacewalk-dobby
Hi! I was looking at Spacewalk Dobby wrapper around Oracle tools and I am wondering if there is any plans to work on it? We find it lack of some features that we would like to have, so we are looking to know what are community plans on this particular software. -- Bo Maryniuk SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer ___ Spacewalk-devel mailing list Spacewalk-devel@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/spacewalk-devel
Re: [Spacewalk-devel] spacewalk-dobby
On 03/21/2012 01:34 PM, Bo Maryniuk wrote: Hi! I was looking at Spacewalk Dobby wrapper around Oracle tools and I am wondering if there is any plans to work on it? We find it lack of some features that we would like to have, so we are looking to know what are community plans on this particular software. We are particularly interested to know if dobby needs to gain Postgres support, of if replacing it completely was the plan. -- Duncan Mac-Vicar P. - http://www.suse.com/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany ___ Spacewalk-devel mailing list Spacewalk-devel@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/spacewalk-devel
Re: [Spacewalk-devel] spacewalk-dobby
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 02:01:25PM +0100, Duncan Mac-Vicar P. wrote: On 03/21/2012 01:34 PM, Bo Maryniuk wrote: I was looking at Spacewalk Dobby wrapper around Oracle tools and I am wondering if there is any plans to work on it? We find it lack of some features that we would like to have, so we are looking to know what are community plans on this particular software. We are particularly interested to know if dobby needs to gain Postgres support, of if replacing it completely was the plan. Excellent questions that I feel are calling for rigorous discussion. What course of action do you envision in this area? -- Jan Pazdziora Principal Software Engineer, Satellite Engineering, Red Hat ___ Spacewalk-devel mailing list Spacewalk-devel@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/spacewalk-devel
Re: [Spacewalk-devel] spacewalk-dobby
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 02:27:34PM +0100, Jan Pazdziora wrote: Excellent questions that I feel are calling for rigorous discussion. What course of action do you envision in this area? We want to enhance it a lot. But we are not sure if this is a good idea to invest into current implementation, which is also in Perl that we would like to get rid of entirely. We also don't like it asks for *oracle* user. :-) -- Bo Maryniuk SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer New linux package released. Please install on /dev/null ___ Spacewalk-devel mailing list Spacewalk-devel@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/spacewalk-devel
Re: [Spacewalk-devel] spacewalk-dobby
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 03:42:28PM +0100, Bo Maryniuk wrote: to invest into current implementation, which is also in Perl that we would like to get rid of entirely. Since you've touched the subject -- how is the Perl to Java WebUI migration progressing? -- Jan Pazdziora Principal Software Engineer, Satellite Engineering, Red Hat ___ Spacewalk-devel mailing list Spacewalk-devel@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/spacewalk-devel
Re: [Spacewalk-devel] spacewalk-dobby
On 03/21/2012 10:42 AM, Bo Maryniuk wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 02:27:34PM +0100, Jan Pazdziora wrote: Excellent questions that I feel are calling for rigorous discussion. What course of action do you envision in this area? We want to enhance it a lot. But we are not sure if this is a good idea to invest into current implementation, which is also in Perl that we would like to get rid of entirely. Well spacewalk-dobby has never really been made to work with OracleXE. For Spacewalk we have always had the database be managed independent of the Spacewalk application. Obviously this is different in Satellite, for which this code was written, where at the product level we use it to manage the Oracle DB we ship as part of the Embedded product. So, I'd say that today, for the Spacewalk project, we have no plans to refactor it - so depending on changes, the Spacewalk community (or even better the PostgreSQL Fedora/OpenSUSE/Upstream) may benefit from changes/enhancements to it. Cliff We also don't like it asks for *oracle* user. :-) -- Bo Maryniuk SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer New linux package released. Please install on /dev/null ___ Spacewalk-devel mailing list Spacewalk-devel@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/spacewalk-devel ___ Spacewalk-devel mailing list Spacewalk-devel@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/spacewalk-devel
