Re: [spamdyke-users] Graylisted denied

2007-11-17 Thread Grimmi Meloni
Well, the problem is, that you do not have any influence on how the 
remote server handle´s the denied case. So basically it´s either instant 
delivery with some spam getting through, or graylisting which (in my 
case) keeps the rest ,that does not get filtered by any RBL, out.

Basically graylisting does not do any harm. The few cases where I 
actually sat and watched graylisting happen, it took the remote system 
from 7 to 10 minutes to retry. So, remote email now takes 10 minutes to 
arrive. I think it´s worth the wait when spam is kept off my system.



night duke schrieb:
 Yes i will not add my own domains there.
 This file can have domains that dosen't have the option to 
 retry,probably not very well configured...
 so i must add manually.
 like [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 The problem is that my people hesitate to much when there's a delay on 
 the delivery...
 They think the email it's like a coffee but you and me know email it 
 not so easy...
 They don't worry about how to block spam etc...they only want is to 
 receive emails
 My problem is to keep off my server from spam and keep delivery emails 
 and graylisting allowing fast.
  
 Not so easy right?
  
 Nightduke


  
 - Mensaje original 
 De: Sam Clippinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Para: spamdyke users spamdyke-users@spamdyke.org
 Enviado: sábado, 17 de noviembre, 2007 2:01:46
 Asunto: Re: [spamdyke-users] Graylisted denied

 Do not add your own domains to the file you use with
 never-graylist-rdns-file.  The file should contain reverse DNS names,
 not recipient domain names.

 Why do you want to bypass graylisting anyway?  It only introduces a
 delay the _first_ time mail is delivered from a sender to a recipient.
 After that, there is no delay.  If the initial delay is a problem, you
 should just disable graylisting.

 -- Sam Clippinger

 night duke wrote:
  Ok pardon me, but the idea is if the server is correctly configured 
 from
  where i want to receive will retry again to send then will be 
 granted to
  send email and will be added to allowed domains?
  
  I have about 5000 domains to add it's a good idea to add to
  never-graylist-rdns-file ?
  
  Thanks a lot for your help.
 
  Nightduke
  
  - Mensaje original 
  De: Sam Clippinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Para: spamdyke users spamdyke-users@spamdyke.org 
 mailto:spamdyke-users@spamdyke.org
  Enviado: sábado, 17 de noviembre, 2007 1:17:17
  Asunto: Re: [spamdyke-users] Graylisted denied
 
  No, it won't block anything.  Any rDNS names listed in that file will be
  excluded from graylisting.  Other filters may still block email from
  those servers.
 
  All of this is covered (exhaustively) in the documentation:
 http://www.spamdyke.org/documentation/README.html#GRAYLISTS
 
  -- Sam Clippinger
 
  night duke wrote:
This file never-graylist-rdns-file will block forever those
  domains?right?
   
Nightduke
   
   
   
   
   
- Mensaje original 
De: Sam Clippinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Para: spamdyke users spamdyke-users@spamdyke.org 
 mailto:spamdyke-users@spamdyke.org
  mailto:spamdyke-users@spamdyke.org 
 mailto:spamdyke-users@spamdyke.org
Enviado: sábado, 17 de noviembre, 2007 1:02:29
Asunto: Re: [spamdyke-users] Graylisted denied
   
If there are any domains you don't want graylisted, just list 
 them in a
file and use the never-graylist-rdns-file option.
   
-- Sam Clippinger
   
night duke wrote:
  Ok but if i want to force manually to add some domains from where
  i want
  to receive?
  After a while it's fixed i received the email from 
 google,spamdyke is
  wonderfull software and antispam solution.
 
  Thanks a lot.
 
  Nightduke
 
  - Mensaje original 
  De: Sam Clippinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Para: spamdyke users spamdyke-users@spamdyke.org 
 mailto:spamdyke-users@spamdyke.org
  mailto:spamdyke-users@spamdyke.org 
 mailto:spamdyke-users@spamdyke.org
mailto:spamdyke-users@spamdyke.org 
 mailto:spamdyke-users@spamdyke.org
  mailto:spamdyke-users@spamdyke.org 
 mailto:spamdyke-users@spamdyke.org
  Enviado: sábado, 17 de noviembre, 2007 0:43:15
  Asunto: Re: [spamdyke-users] Graylisted denied
 
  You're not lost, there is nothing to fix.  This is correct -- it
  indicates spamdyke graylisted the connection from google.com.  
 Later,
  google.com will retry delivery and you will see ALLOWED.
 
  -- Sam Clippinger
 
  night duke wrote:
Nov 17 00:16:12 00641 relaylock: /var/qmail/bin/relaylock: 
 mail
  from
209.85.198.189:11632 (rv-out-0910.google.com)
Nov 17 00:16:14 00641 spamdyke[19267

Re: [spamdyke-users] Graylisted denied

2007-11-17 Thread Davide Bozzelli
night duke ha scritto:
 I'm agree with your comments but people want fast email, zero spam and 
 sometimes it's impossible...
 I have migrated the server and i stoped receiving spamgraylisting 
 is a cool software but i'm afraid about how the people configure their 
 mail servers of the retry delivery... i hope will retry to send the 
 emails soon...but people must wait...
  
 I wish to know if spamdyke can work with 
 qmail,exim,postfix,qpopper,sendmail?
  
 Thanks a lot.
  
 Nightduke
  
  
  
Spamdyke it's specifically designed for qmail .

qpopper afaik is a pop server .

Postfix and sendmail have their built-in  checks .

Have fun,
Davide
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[spamdyke-users] Graylisted denied

2007-11-16 Thread night duke
Nov 17 00:16:12 00641 relaylock: /var/qmail/bin/relaylock: mail from 
209.85.198.189:11632 (rv-out-0910.google.com)
Nov 17 00:16:14 00641 spamdyke[19267]: DENIED_GRAYLISTED from: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] origin_ip: 209.85.198.189 origin_rdns: 
rv-out-0910.google.com auth: (unknown)

So finally i'm lost with graylisting.

I have at my graylisting dir 

-rw--- 1 root root   38 2007-11-17 00:23 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
00641:/var/qmail/graylist/mydomain.com/othermail#

Does anyone how can i fix this?

Thanks

Nightduke


   
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Re: [spamdyke-users] Graylisted denied

2007-11-16 Thread night duke
Ok but if i want to force manually to add some domains from where i want to 
receive?
After a while it's fixed i received the email from google,spamdyke is 
wonderfull software and antispam solution.

Thanks a lot.

Nightduke


- Mensaje original 
De: Sam Clippinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Para: spamdyke users spamdyke-users@spamdyke.org
Enviado: sábado, 17 de noviembre, 2007 0:43:15
Asunto: Re: [spamdyke-users] Graylisted denied

You're not lost, there is nothing to fix.  This is correct -- it 
indicates spamdyke graylisted the connection from google.com.  Later, 
google.com will retry delivery and you will see ALLOWED.

-- Sam Clippinger

night duke wrote:
 Nov 17 00:16:12 00641 relaylock: /var/qmail/bin/relaylock: mail from 
 209.85.198.189:11632 (rv-out-0910.google.com)
 Nov 17 00:16:14 00641 spamdyke[19267]: DENIED_GRAYLISTED from: 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] origin_ip: 209.85.198.189 origin_rdns: 
 rv-out-0910.google.com auth: (unknown)
 So finally i'm lost with graylisting.
  
 I have at my graylisting dir
  
 -rw--- 1 root root  38 2007-11-17 00:23 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 00641:/var/qmail/graylist/mydomain.com/othermail#
  
 Does anyone how can i fix this?
 
 Thanks
  
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Re: [spamdyke-users] Graylisted denied

2007-11-16 Thread night duke
This file never-graylist-rdns-file will block forever those domains?right?

Nightduke





- Mensaje original 
De: Sam Clippinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Para: spamdyke users spamdyke-users@spamdyke.org
Enviado: sábado, 17 de noviembre, 2007 1:02:29
Asunto: Re: [spamdyke-users] Graylisted denied

If there are any domains you don't want graylisted, just list them in a 
file and use the never-graylist-rdns-file option.

-- Sam Clippinger

night duke wrote:
 Ok but if i want to force manually to add some domains from where i want 
 to receive?
 After a while it's fixed i received the email from google,spamdyke is 
 wonderfull software and antispam solution.
  
 Thanks a lot.
  
 Nightduke
 
 - Mensaje original 
 De: Sam Clippinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Para: spamdyke users spamdyke-users@spamdyke.org
 Enviado: sábado, 17 de noviembre, 2007 0:43:15
 Asunto: Re: [spamdyke-users] Graylisted denied
 
 You're not lost, there is nothing to fix.  This is correct -- it
 indicates spamdyke graylisted the connection from google.com.  Later,
 google.com will retry delivery and you will see ALLOWED.
 
 -- Sam Clippinger
 
 night duke wrote:
   Nov 17 00:16:12 00641 relaylock: /var/qmail/bin/relaylock: mail from
   209.85.198.189:11632 (rv-out-0910.google.com)
   Nov 17 00:16:14 00641 spamdyke[19267]: DENIED_GRAYLISTED from:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] to: 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 origin_ip: 209.85.198.189 origin_rdns:
   rv-out-0910.google.com auth: (unknown)
   So finally i'm lost with graylisting.
   
   I have at my graylisting dir
   
   -rw--- 1 root root  38 2007-11-17 00:23 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   00641:/var/qmail/graylist/mydomain.com/othermail#
   
   Does anyone how can i fix this?
  
   Thanks
   
   Nightduke
  
   
  
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Re: [spamdyke-users] Graylisted denied

2007-11-16 Thread Davide Bozzelli
Sam Clippinger ha scritto:
 If there are any domains you don't want graylisted, just list them in a 
 file and use the never-graylist-rdns-file option.

   
I'm confused about this option.

If i put for example in the file something like domain.com

And you say: domains you don't want graylisted, you mean that i can 
whitelist for graylist ALL mail comes
with mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] , or just i can whitelist connections 
coming from an host with whatever.domain.com ?

thx for help,
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Re: [spamdyke-users] Graylisted denied

2007-11-16 Thread Sam Clippinger
The second is true.  The file should contain a list of rDNS names that 
should never be graylisted.  The never-graylist-rdns-file option does 
not consider the sender address.

So, for example, if the file contained:
.google.com
Email coming from a server named rv-out-0910.google.com (one of the 
gmail.com servers) will never be graylisted.  Other filters may still 
block the connection, however.

Basically, the never-graylist-* options work just like the 
whitelist-* options except they only bypass the graylist filter.  The 
whitelist-* options bypass all of the filters.

-- Sam Clippinger

Davide Bozzelli wrote:
 Sam Clippinger ha scritto:
 If there are any domains you don't want graylisted, just list them in a 
 file and use the never-graylist-rdns-file option.

   
 I'm confused about this option.
 
 If i put for example in the file something like domain.com
 
 And you say: domains you don't want graylisted, you mean that i can 
 whitelist for graylist ALL mail comes
 with mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] , or just i can whitelist connections 
 coming from an host with whatever.domain.com ?
 
 thx for help,
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Re: [spamdyke-users] Graylisted denied

2007-11-16 Thread night duke
Ok pardon me, but the idea is if the server is correctly configured from where 
i want to receive will retry again to send then will be granted to send email 
and will be added to allowed domains?

I have about 5000 domains to add it's a good idea to add to 
never-graylist-rdns-file ?

Thanks a lot for your help.


Nightduke

- Mensaje original 
De: Sam Clippinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Para: spamdyke users spamdyke-users@spamdyke.org
Enviado: sábado, 17 de noviembre, 2007 1:17:17
Asunto: Re: [spamdyke-users] Graylisted denied

No, it won't block anything.  Any rDNS names listed in that file will be 
excluded from graylisting.  Other filters may still block email from 
those servers.

All of this is covered (exhaustively) in the documentation:
http://www.spamdyke.org/documentation/README.html#GRAYLISTS

-- Sam Clippinger

night duke wrote:
 This file never-graylist-rdns-file will block forever those domains?right?
  
 Nightduke
  
  
 
 
  
 - Mensaje original 
 De: Sam Clippinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Para: spamdyke users spamdyke-users@spamdyke.org
 Enviado: sábado, 17 de noviembre, 2007 1:02:29
 Asunto: Re: [spamdyke-users] Graylisted denied
 
 If there are any domains you don't want graylisted, just list them in a
 file and use the never-graylist-rdns-file option.
 
 -- Sam Clippinger
 
 night duke wrote:
   Ok but if i want to force manually to add some domains from where i want
   to receive?
   After a while it's fixed i received the email from google,spamdyke is
   wonderfull software and antispam solution.
   
   Thanks a lot.
   
   Nightduke
  
   - Mensaje original 
   De: Sam Clippinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Para: spamdyke users spamdyke-users@spamdyke.org 
 mailto:spamdyke-users@spamdyke.org
   Enviado: sábado, 17 de noviembre, 2007 0:43:15
   Asunto: Re: [spamdyke-users] Graylisted denied
  
   You're not lost, there is nothing to fix.  This is correct -- it
   indicates spamdyke graylisted the connection from google.com.   Later,
   google.com will retry delivery and you will see ALLOWED.
  
   -- Sam Clippinger
  
   night duke wrote:
 Nov 17 00:16:12 00641 relaylock: /var/qmail/bin/relaylock: mail from
 209.85.198.189:11632 (rv-out-0910.google.com)
 Nov 17 00:16:14 00641 spamdyke[19267]: DENIED_GRAYLISTED from:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] to:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   origin_ip: 209.85.198.189 origin_rdns:
 rv-out-0910.google.com auth: (unknown)
 So finally i'm lost with graylisting.

 I have at my graylisting dir

 -rw--- 1 root root  38 2007-11-17 00:23 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 00641:/var/qmail/graylist/mydomain.com/othermail#

 Does anyone how can i fix this?

 Thanks

 Nightduke

 
 

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Re: [spamdyke-users] Graylisted denied

2007-11-16 Thread Sam Clippinger
Do not add your own domains to the file you use with 
never-graylist-rdns-file.  The file should contain reverse DNS names, 
not recipient domain names.

Why do you want to bypass graylisting anyway?  It only introduces a 
delay the _first_ time mail is delivered from a sender to a recipient. 
After that, there is no delay.  If the initial delay is a problem, you 
should just disable graylisting.

-- Sam Clippinger

night duke wrote:
 Ok pardon me, but the idea is if the server is correctly configured from 
 where i want to receive will retry again to send then will be granted to 
 send email and will be added to allowed domains?
  
 I have about 5000 domains to add it's a good idea to add to 
 never-graylist-rdns-file ?
  
 Thanks a lot for your help.
 
 Nightduke
  
 - Mensaje original 
 De: Sam Clippinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Para: spamdyke users spamdyke-users@spamdyke.org
 Enviado: sábado, 17 de noviembre, 2007 1:17:17
 Asunto: Re: [spamdyke-users] Graylisted denied
 
 No, it won't block anything.  Any rDNS names listed in that file will be
 excluded from graylisting.  Other filters may still block email from
 those servers.
 
 All of this is covered (exhaustively) in the documentation:
 http://www.spamdyke.org/documentation/README.html#GRAYLISTS
 
 -- Sam Clippinger
 
 night duke wrote:
   This file never-graylist-rdns-file will block forever those 
 domains?right?
   
   Nightduke
   
   
  
  
   
   - Mensaje original 
   De: Sam Clippinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Para: spamdyke users spamdyke-users@spamdyke.org 
 mailto:spamdyke-users@spamdyke.org
   Enviado: sábado, 17 de noviembre, 2007 1:02:29
   Asunto: Re: [spamdyke-users] Graylisted denied
  
   If there are any domains you don't want graylisted, just list them in a
   file and use the never-graylist-rdns-file option.
  
   -- Sam Clippinger
  
   night duke wrote:
 Ok but if i want to force manually to add some domains from where 
 i want
 to receive?
 After a while it's fixed i received the email from google,spamdyke is
 wonderfull software and antispam solution.

 Thanks a lot.

 Nightduke

 - Mensaje original 
 De: Sam Clippinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Para: spamdyke users spamdyke-users@spamdyke.org 
 mailto:spamdyke-users@spamdyke.org
   mailto:spamdyke-users@spamdyke.org 
 mailto:spamdyke-users@spamdyke.org
 Enviado: sábado, 17 de noviembre, 2007 0:43:15
 Asunto: Re: [spamdyke-users] Graylisted denied

 You're not lost, there is nothing to fix.  This is correct -- it
 indicates spamdyke graylisted the connection from google.com.   Later,
 google.com will retry delivery and you will see ALLOWED.

 -- Sam Clippinger

 night duke wrote:
   Nov 17 00:16:12 00641 relaylock: /var/qmail/bin/relaylock: mail 
 from
   209.85.198.189:11632 (rv-out-0910.google.com)
   Nov 17 00:16:14 00641 spamdyke[19267]: DENIED_GRAYLISTED from:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] to:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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   I have at my graylisting dir
  
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   Does anyone how can i fix this?
  
   Thanks
  
   Nightduke
  
  
   
  
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