Re: [sqlite] Are you getting spam when you post to sqlite-users ?

[Efe Burak]

me too

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 2:53 PM, Keith Medcalf <kmedc...@dessus.com> wrote:

>
> Richard,
>
> The ARIN PPML has the same spammer harvesting their list to get subscriber
> email addresses and replying with the same type of "spam" ...
>
>
> ---
> The fact that there's a Highway to Hell but only a Stairway to Heaven says
> a lot about anticipated traffic volume.
>
> >-Original Message-
> >From: sqlite-users [mailto:sqlite-users-
> >boun...@mailinglists.sqlite.org] On Behalf Of Richard Hipp
> >Sent: Wednesday, 18 April, 2018 12:11
> >To: SQLite mailing list
> >Subject: Re: [sqlite] Are you getting spam when you post to sqlite-
> >users ?
> >
> >On 4/18/18, Dennis Clarke <dcla...@blastwave.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> "Banishing" means configuring IP filters on the server to silently
> >>> discard any and all IP packets that originate from the targeted
> >range
> >>> of IP addresses.
> >>
> >> This is the best method that I have ever used and I can tell you
> >that
> >> your ipfilter rules can get quite long using this approach.  In
> >truth
> >> I banish ALL registered subnets from certain areas of the world
> >> and then life goes on.  Entire continents blocked.
> >>
> >
> >This technique works to prevent me from getting the spam, because all
> >my email goes through the machine doing the blocking - sqlite.org.
> >Unfortunately, the email for the other 2000+ people on this mail list
> >goes through different servers which are not blocking the misbehaving
> >IP address, and so they are still seeing the spam.
> >--
> >D. Richard Hipp
> >d...@sqlite.org
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Re: [sqlite] Are you getting spam when you post to sqlite-users ?

[Seiji Amalai]

nope

On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 10:39 PM, Simon Slavin  wrote:

> Dear list-posters,
>
> Are you getting a new dating-spam each time you post to this list ?  If
> you are, please post a brief follow-up to this message.  Please do /not/
> include any details about the spam, its headers, or the person it's
> apparently from.  Just a "me too" until I say I have seen enough responses.
>
> I'm trying to work out if I personally am being targeted or whether it's
> being sent to everyone who posts here.
>
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Re: [sqlite] Are you getting spam when you post to sqlite-users ?

[Keith Medcalf]

Richard,

The ARIN PPML has the same spammer harvesting their list to get subscriber 
email addresses and replying with the same type of "spam" ...


---
The fact that there's a Highway to Hell but only a Stairway to Heaven says a 
lot about anticipated traffic volume.

>-Original Message-
>From: sqlite-users [mailto:sqlite-users-
>boun...@mailinglists.sqlite.org] On Behalf Of Richard Hipp
>Sent: Wednesday, 18 April, 2018 12:11
>To: SQLite mailing list
>Subject: Re: [sqlite] Are you getting spam when you post to sqlite-
>users ?
>
>On 4/18/18, Dennis Clarke <dcla...@blastwave.org> wrote:
>>
>>> "Banishing" means configuring IP filters on the server to silently
>>> discard any and all IP packets that originate from the targeted
>range
>>> of IP addresses.
>>
>> This is the best method that I have ever used and I can tell you
>that
>> your ipfilter rules can get quite long using this approach.  In
>truth
>> I banish ALL registered subnets from certain areas of the world
>> and then life goes on.  Entire continents blocked.
>>
>
>This technique works to prevent me from getting the spam, because all
>my email goes through the machine doing the blocking - sqlite.org.
>Unfortunately, the email for the other 2000+ people on this mail list
>goes through different servers which are not blocking the misbehaving
>IP address, and so they are still seeing the spam.
>--
>D. Richard Hipp
>d...@sqlite.org
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Re: [sqlite] Are you getting spam when you post to sqlite-users ?

[Shevek]

It has to be a subscriber. I just got spam in the form of an 
almost-immediate reply to my last message to the list, including 
message-ids. Web wouldn't bother including that metadata, and is 
unlikely to be quite so real-time.


On 04/18/2018 11:35 PM, Simon Slavin wrote:

On 18 Apr 2018, at 11:19pm, dave  wrote:


Wouldn't it be as simple as subscribing to the mailing list and harvesting
the emails directly from the inbound content?


No need to subscribe.  This mailing list is gated to web fora.  Just scrape 
some web pages.

I don't think there's a solution short of each one of us tuning our junkmail 
filters by telling them to reject all of those spam messages.

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Re: [sqlite] Are you getting spam when you post to sqlite-users ?

[Keith Medcalf]

I block by domain as in

*.dognuts
*.spammers
*.dating
*.evildoers

for basically every johhny-cum-lately domain (ie, that has not existed since 
before 1995) -- one strike and the whole TLD is fileterd (as in packet routed 
to the null0 interface).  Then tere is the checks on SPF, protocol conformance 
(as in you do not speak until spoken to, you dirty spammer you), a number of 
RBL checks and of course null0 routing all "nasty" addresses (that is, if you 
send SSH attacks to someone, you likely have no good reason to be talking to me 
at all).

Very effective.  99.9% of all spam eliminated.

---
The fact that there's a Highway to Hell but only a Stairway to Heaven says a 
lot about anticipated traffic volume.

>-Original Message-
>From: sqlite-users [mailto:sqlite-users-
>boun...@mailinglists.sqlite.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Clarke
>Sent: Wednesday, 18 April, 2018 10:36
>To: sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org
>Subject: Re: [sqlite] Are you getting spam when you post to sqlite-
>users ?
>
>
>> "Banishing" means configuring IP filters on the server to silently
>> discard any and all IP packets that originate from the targeted
>range
>> of IP addresses.
>
>This is the best method that I have ever used and I can tell you that
>your ipfilter rules can get quite long using this approach.  In truth
>I banish ALL registered subnets from certain areas of the world
>and then life goes on.  Entire continents blocked.
>
>Dennis
>
>
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Re: [sqlite] Are you getting spam when you post to sqlite-users ?

[Simon Slavin]

On 18 Apr 2018, at 11:19pm, dave  wrote:

> Wouldn't it be as simple as subscribing to the mailing list and harvesting
> the emails directly from the inbound content?

No need to subscribe.  This mailing list is gated to web fora.  Just scrape 
some web pages.

I don't think there's a solution short of each one of us tuning our junkmail 
filters by telling them to reject all of those spam messages.

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Re: [sqlite] Are you getting spam when you post to sqlite-users ?

[dave]

Wouldn't it be as simple as subscribing to the mailing list and harvesting
the emails directly from the inbound content?  Because as it is, everyone's
real email already comes to me in the list messages I receive (as
'sqlite-users on behalf of x...@yyy.com')

The spam message I just received used the subject line that I had posted
onto the list a day or so ago (so I know how they got it), but was addressed
to my email directly (so I don't think there's any banning that sqlite can
do).  Perhaps it's a pity I'm otherwise too busy, because Samantha invites
me to 'come and treat us in real, plz'.  Lol!  Oh well, this account is so
inundated with spam already, I suppose a little more won't hurt

> -Original Message-
> From: sqlite-users 
> [mailto:sqlite-users-boun...@mailinglists.sqlite.org] On 
> Behalf Of José María Mateos
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 8:55 AM
> To: sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org
> Subject: Re: [sqlite] Are you getting spam when you post to 
> sqlite-users ?
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, at 17:39, Simon Slavin wrote:
> > Dear list-posters,
> > 
> > Are you getting a new dating-spam each time you post to 
> this list ?  If 
> > you are, please post a brief follow-up to this message.  
> Please do /not/ 
> > include any details about the spam, its headers, or the person it's 
> > apparently from.  Just a "me too" until I say I have seen enough 
> > responses.
> 
> For what I understand, this exact behavior is happening right 
> now on the r-help mailing list too. People were wondering if 
> addresses were being scrapped from nabble.com or something similar.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -- 
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Re: [sqlite] Are you getting spam when you post to sqlite-users ?

[Richard Hipp]

On 4/18/18, Dennis Clarke  wrote:
>
>> "Banishing" means configuring IP filters on the server to silently
>> discard any and all IP packets that originate from the targeted range
>> of IP addresses.
>
> This is the best method that I have ever used and I can tell you that
> your ipfilter rules can get quite long using this approach.  In truth
> I banish ALL registered subnets from certain areas of the world
> and then life goes on.  Entire continents blocked.
>

This technique works to prevent me from getting the spam, because all
my email goes through the machine doing the blocking - sqlite.org.
Unfortunately, the email for the other 2000+ people on this mail list
goes through different servers which are not blocking the misbehaving
IP address, and so they are still seeing the spam.
-- 
D. Richard Hipp
d...@sqlite.org
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Re: [sqlite] Are you getting spam when you post to sqlite-users ?

[Dennis Clarke]

"Banishing" means configuring IP filters on the server to silently
discard any and all IP packets that originate from the targeted range
of IP addresses.


This is the best method that I have ever used and I can tell you that
your ipfilter rules can get quite long using this approach.  In truth
I banish ALL registered subnets from certain areas of the world
and then life goes on.  Entire continents blocked.

Dennis



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Re: [sqlite] Are you getting spam when you post to sqlite-users ?

[Richard Hipp]

Can you forward at least the header to me, please?

On 4/18/18, David Raymond <david.raym...@tomtom.com> wrote:
> Just got my first one after my last post.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: sqlite-users [mailto:sqlite-users-boun...@mailinglists.sqlite.org] On
> Behalf Of Richard Hipp
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 8:41 AM
> To: SQLite mailing list
> Subject: Re: [sqlite] Are you getting spam when you post to sqlite-users ?
>
> I have banished a block of 256 IP addresses around the specific IP
> address from which the spam was originating.  (The ISP is
> Mellowhost.com.)  I did not expect that this would help, as I assumed
> that the email addresses were being harvested from a separate gmail or
> yahoo email account.  And yet, since banishing that block of IPs, I
> have not heard any further reports of spam.
>
> Please let me know if you get any more spam after sending messages to this
> list.
>
> "Banishing" means configuring IP filters on the server to silently
> discard any and all IP packets that originate from the targeted range
> of IP addresses.
> --
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Re: [sqlite] Are you getting spam when you post to sqlite-users ?

[David Raymond]

Just got my first one after my last post.


-Original Message-
From: sqlite-users [mailto:sqlite-users-boun...@mailinglists.sqlite.org] On 
Behalf Of Richard Hipp
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 8:41 AM
To: SQLite mailing list
Subject: Re: [sqlite] Are you getting spam when you post to sqlite-users ?

I have banished a block of 256 IP addresses around the specific IP
address from which the spam was originating.  (The ISP is
Mellowhost.com.)  I did not expect that this would help, as I assumed
that the email addresses were being harvested from a separate gmail or
yahoo email account.  And yet, since banishing that block of IPs, I
have not heard any further reports of spam.

Please let me know if you get any more spam after sending messages to this list.

"Banishing" means configuring IP filters on the server to silently
discard any and all IP packets that originate from the targeted range
of IP addresses.
-- 
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Re: [sqlite] Are you getting spam when you post to sqlite-users ?

[Don V Nielsen]

And my dating success rate has dropped dramatically

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 8:54 AM, José María Mateos 
wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, at 17:39, Simon Slavin wrote:
> > Dear list-posters,
> >
> > Are you getting a new dating-spam each time you post to this list ?  If
> > you are, please post a brief follow-up to this message.  Please do /not/
> > include any details about the spam, its headers, or the person it's
> > apparently from.  Just a "me too" until I say I have seen enough
> > responses.
>
> For what I understand, this exact behavior is happening right now on the
> r-help mailing list too. People were wondering if addresses were being
> scrapped from nabble.com or something similar.
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
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Re: [sqlite] Are you getting spam when you post to sqlite-users ?

[José María Mateos]

On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, at 17:39, Simon Slavin wrote:
> Dear list-posters,
> 
> Are you getting a new dating-spam each time you post to this list ?  If 
> you are, please post a brief follow-up to this message.  Please do /not/ 
> include any details about the spam, its headers, or the person it's 
> apparently from.  Just a "me too" until I say I have seen enough 
> responses.

For what I understand, this exact behavior is happening right now on the r-help 
mailing list too. People were wondering if addresses were being scrapped from 
nabble.com or something similar.

Cheers,

-- 
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Re: [sqlite] Are you getting spam when you post to sqlite-users ?

[Richard Hipp]

I have banished a block of 256 IP addresses around the specific IP
address from which the spam was originating.  (The ISP is
Mellowhost.com.)  I did not expect that this would help, as I assumed
that the email addresses were being harvested from a separate gmail or
yahoo email account.  And yet, since banishing that block of IPs, I
have not heard any further reports of spam.

Please let me know if you get any more spam after sending messages to this list.

"Banishing" means configuring IP filters on the server to silently
discard any and all IP packets that originate from the targeted range
of IP addresses.
-- 
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Re: [sqlite] Are you getting spam when you post to sqlite-users ?

[David Burgess]

No problems with spam on my first day back on this list.
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Re: [sqlite] Are you getting spam when you post to sqlite-users ?

[Richard Hipp]

On 4/17/18, Simon Slavin  wrote:
>
> Can the list admins please take appropriate action ?

If you can identify the mailing list member that is sending the spam,
then I can banish them.  But beyond that, what can I do?  If somebody
is subscribed using email ab...@gmail.com, but then they turn around
and send spam replies using w...@evil.com, how am I suppose to make
the connection between these two addresses?

I can set the list serve to obscure sender emails.  We tried that once
before, you might recall, and it did not go well.
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Re: [sqlite] Are you getting spam when you post to sqlite-users?

[Simon Slavin]

On 17 Apr 2018, at 11:11pm, Rich Shepard  wrote:

> FWIW, I haven't seen any spam from this mail list. I do run my own MTA
> which aggressively rejects known spam.

I won't give details in public but I will say that one or more characteristics 
of the spam messages appear in the URIBL blacklist.  I suspect that if you use 
a score filter your system filtered it out.

Simon.
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Re: [sqlite] Are you getting spam when you post to sqlite-users?

[J Decker]

On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 3:11 PM, Rich Shepard 
wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Simon Slavin wrote:
>
> Okay, that's enough. Thanks for the help, everyone.
>>
>
> Simon,
>
>   FWIW, I haven't seen any spam from this mail list. I do run my own MTA
> which aggressively rejects known spam. Over 20 years I doubt there have
> been
> more than a handfull from all mail lists to which I have been subscribed.
>
>
Just really wanted to get some huh? :)


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Re: [sqlite] Are you getting spam when you post to sqlite-users?

[Rich Shepard]

On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Simon Slavin wrote:


Okay, that's enough. Thanks for the help, everyone.


Simon,

  FWIW, I haven't seen any spam from this mail list. I do run my own MTA
which aggressively rejects known spam. Over 20 years I doubt there have been
more than a handfull from all mail lists to which I have been subscribed.

Rich
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Re: [sqlite] Are you getting spam when you post to sqlite-users ?

[Olivier Mascia]

> Le 17 avr. 2018 à 23:39, Simon Slavin  a écrit :
> 
> Are you getting a new dating-spam each time you post to this list ?

I indeed have got one minutes ago after my recent post here today.  I was about 
to write and ask about it here. :)

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Re: [sqlite] Are you getting spam when you post to sqlite-users ?

[Simon Slavin]

On 17 Apr 2018, at 11:00pm, Warren Young  wrote:

> Yes.  My recent reply to the header corruption thread triggered one.

I got a couple of direct email replies too, with enough information for me to 
isolate the offending mail server.

Okay, that's enough.  Thanks for the help, everyone.

Can the list admins please take appropriate action ?  If you need headers from 
a message to someone else, email me and I'll send you a raw copy of one of the 
spam messages I received.

Simon.
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Re: [sqlite] Are you getting spam when you post to sqlite-users ?

[J Decker]

having replied in this thread I got one.
(can the real simon slavin please stand up?)

On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 3:00 PM, Warren Young  wrote:

> On Apr 17, 2018, at 3:39 PM, Simon Slavin  wrote:
> >
> > Are you getting a new dating-spam each time you post to this list ?  If
> you are, please post a brief follow-up to this message.
>
> Yes.  My recent reply to the header corruption thread triggered one.
>
> This is not new: some spammer subscribes to the mailing list and responds
> for each new post.  It’s difficult to cope with because the messages
> usually go out with a different source email than the one subscribed to the
> mailing list.
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Re: [sqlite] Are you getting spam when you post to sqlite-users ?

[Warren Young]

On Apr 17, 2018, at 3:39 PM, Simon Slavin  wrote:
> 
> Are you getting a new dating-spam each time you post to this list ?  If you 
> are, please post a brief follow-up to this message.

Yes.  My recent reply to the header corruption thread triggered one.

This is not new: some spammer subscribes to the mailing list and responds for 
each new post.  It’s difficult to cope with because the messages usually go out 
with a different source email than the one subscribed to the mailing list.

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Re: [sqlite] Are you getting spam when you post to sqlite-users ?

[J Decker]

march 26, apr 7 I found one each day in 'spam'

On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 2:39 PM, Simon Slavin  wrote:

> Dear list-posters,
>
> Are you getting a new dating-spam each time you post to this list ?  If
> you are, please post a brief follow-up to this message.  Please do /not/
> include any details about the spam, its headers, or the person it's
> apparently from.  Just a "me too" until I say I have seen enough responses.
>
> I'm trying to work out if I personally am being targeted or whether it's
> being sent to everyone who posts here.
>
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[sqlite] Are you getting spam when you post to sqlite-users ?

[Simon Slavin]

Dear list-posters,

Are you getting a new dating-spam each time you post to this list ?  If you 
are, please post a brief follow-up to this message.  Please do /not/ include 
any details about the spam, its headers, or the person it's apparently from.  
Just a "me too" until I say I have seen enough responses.

I'm trying to work out if I personally am being targeted or whether it's being 
sent to everyone who posts here.

Simon.
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