Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Marketing] New Fedora Spins Site
On Tue, 2015-05-19 at 11:39 -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: Iain, Sean, Sam, _Please_consolidate_the_changes_before_send_to_Peter_. Thanks, Gonzalo, is good advice. My apologies to the other contributors, Sam, Walter and Sean for clouding their perfectly useful work. The text that I have called the Walter/Sam contribution is on this thread. Sean's improved text reads: #-# Sugar on a Stick is a Fedora-based operating system featuring the award-winning Sugar Learning Platform and designed to fit on an ordinary USB thumbdrive (stick). Sugar sets aside the traditional office-desktop metaphor, presenting a child-friendly simple graphical environment. Sugar automatically saves the child's progress to a Journal on your stick, so teachers and parents can easily pull up all collaborative web browsing sessions done in the past week or papers written with Daniel and Sarah in the last 24 hours with a simple query rather than memorizing complex file/folder structures. Applications in Sugar are known as Activities, some of which are described below. It is now deployable for the cost of a stick rather than a laptop; students can take their Sugar on a Stick thumbdrive to any machine - at school, at home, at a library or community center - and boot their customized computing environment without touching the host machine's hard disk or existing system at all. #-# I feel that this is the limit of my ability to achieve consensus. I have a plain text copy of the above two elements plus Sean's proof_reading_corrections, if it is required. Iain Peter, when need this be finished? Gonzalo On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Iain Brown Douglas i...@browndouglas.plus.com wrote: On Tue, 2015-05-19 at 15:00 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: Hi Peter, On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 9:01 PM Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 5:58 AM, Iain Brown Douglas i...@browndouglas.plus.com wrote: Thanks, Sean, for the careful proof reading. Fair copy attached. I originally included the section Multimedia, as it is the set of Activities in http://spins.stg.fedoraproject.org/en/soas/ but not in the Walter/Sam contribution. I think it is the weakest section. Chat jars a bit on the page, as Chat is used in the Spins page template to refer to IRC. My memory is that Jukebox is not part of the core set (due to non-free components?). You're memory is wrong! It uses gstreamer and there a number of free codecs that come as standard. Thanks, Peter, for the correction. So as a heading, ==Multimedia== containing Jukebox, Record, Imageviewer you feel should remain? I really don't care what it's called but those three are staying, right where they are. A lot of people want to view photos, listen to music etc. As to what it's called, I'm not particularly bothered. Maybe you could download SoaS 22 and actually test it and see what's there! Perhaps the section Multimedia as it stands should be deleted. Not going to happen. This isn't time for bikeshedding, it's time for tweaking the content as it stands. Talking about the headers is not bikeshedding. The headers on the page are not very relevant to an education focused desktop environment - they are headers for a traditional dekstop environment. I was talking about Multimedia as it stands should be deleted so I have no idea why you're talking about the header names. I have stated before the header names need to be updated. I'm still awaiting what they should be updated to. ... awaiting? Understanding and creating content Learning by doing Getting technical Exploring the wider world Multimedia Reflection on what you've learned is from earlier contributions and both my attachments to this thread. As I've said to Sean before, I don't have the time to reconcile opinions coming in from a number of locations. Peter, that is why I have tried to help by drawing the contributions onto one attachment, are you
Re: [Sugar-devel] Communication between two Activities
Gustavo, Are they two instances of the same activity or two different activities? Is the communication synchronous or asynchronous? -walter On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 6:35 AM, Gustavo Duarte gus.dua...@gmail.com wrote: James, I should be more specific, sorry, in my case, the two Activities are on the same computer. Sam, Are a thread about this, already ? Thanks. Gustavo On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 6:46 AM, Sam P. sam.parkins...@gmail.com wrote: Hi James, Is this meant to be a reply to an existing thread? Thanks, Sam On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 12:01 PM James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: Are the two activities on: - separate computers, or - the same computer? If the two activities are on separate computers, do they have the same bundle id? If the two activities are on the same computer, do they share the same display? -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Communication between two Activities
James, I should be more specific, sorry, in my case, the two Activities are on the same computer. Sam, Are a thread about this, already ? Thanks. Gustavo On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 6:46 AM, Sam P. sam.parkins...@gmail.com wrote: Hi James, Is this meant to be a reply to an existing thread? Thanks, Sam On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 12:01 PM James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: Are the two activities on: - separate computers, or - the same computer? If the two activities are on separate computers, do they have the same bundle id? If the two activities are on the same computer, do they share the same display? -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 79, Issue 51
Hi, Sam As part of GSOC, I am mentoring the Interactive Javascript Project and have four candidates for the unfunded Web Confusion project who have volunteered to continue in support of the community. Since the two projects are closely related and since there are five people involved plus me, I have had the group set up to allow the project participants to communicate. I don't think this level of detail is appropriate for a general list. Of course, anyone who wants to get involved as mentor or contributor is welcome to join. Tony On 05/20/2015 01:52 AM, sugar-devel-requ...@lists.sugarlabs.org wrote: From: Sam P.sam.parkins...@gmail.com To: Vibhor Sehgalsehgalvib...@gmail.com, sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] The new kid on the block Message-ID: cacvkbrueauxpmqg7wbgohajynjgeaewqxs2xl5nbhdw+3sc...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hello, It is great to see more people becoming engaged with Sugar! I'm not sure what this google group is, however, we already have many mailing lists [1]. Please consider using an existing mailing list as we should not aim for a fragmented community. Thanks, Sam ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Marketing] New Fedora Spins Site
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 8:01 PM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: Peter - here is Iain's document: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/marketing/attachments/20150519/bdaf00ca/attachment.html Can we have pure plain text, the web team deals with formatting. I need to be able to provide it in pure text, I don't have time to strip out html. Is it really that hard to provide an inline in email pure text output? I have until the end of today to provide a decent update else it goes out as is. Peter On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 7:57 PM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: Gonzalo - Iain had already consolidated all changes but Peter doesn't want to deal with a text file. Sean On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Iain, Sean, Sam, _Please_consolidate_the_changes_before_send_to_Peter_. Peter, when need this be finished? Gonzalo On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Iain Brown Douglas i...@browndouglas.plus.com wrote: On Tue, 2015-05-19 at 15:00 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: Hi Peter, On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 9:01 PM Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 5:58 AM, Iain Brown Douglas i...@browndouglas.plus.com wrote: Thanks, Sean, for the careful proof reading. Fair copy attached. I originally included the section Multimedia, as it is the set of Activities in http://spins.stg.fedoraproject.org/en/soas/ but not in the Walter/Sam contribution. I think it is the weakest section. Chat jars a bit on the page, as Chat is used in the Spins page template to refer to IRC. My memory is that Jukebox is not part of the core set (due to non-free components?). You're memory is wrong! It uses gstreamer and there a number of free codecs that come as standard. Thanks, Peter, for the correction. So as a heading, ==Multimedia== containing Jukebox, Record, Imageviewer you feel should remain? I really don't care what it's called but those three are staying, right where they are. A lot of people want to view photos, listen to music etc. As to what it's called, I'm not particularly bothered. Maybe you could download SoaS 22 and actually test it and see what's there! Perhaps the section Multimedia as it stands should be deleted. Not going to happen. This isn't time for bikeshedding, it's time for tweaking the content as it stands. Talking about the headers is not bikeshedding. The headers on the page are not very relevant to an education focused desktop environment - they are headers for a traditional dekstop environment. I was talking about Multimedia as it stands should be deleted so I have no idea why you're talking about the header names. I have stated before the header names need to be updated. I'm still awaiting what they should be updated to. ... awaiting? Understanding and creating content Learning by doing Getting technical Exploring the wider world Multimedia Reflection on what you've learned is from earlier contributions and both my attachments to this thread. As I've said to Sean before, I don't have the time to reconcile opinions coming in from a number of locations. Peter, that is why I have tried to help by drawing the contributions onto one attachment, are you receiving your email without attachments? No, I drop all attachments from mailing lists unless they are text patches, they're generally just spam or viruses. In plain text inline emails please. I want ONE update. I don't have the time to merge them. I've already wasted a lot of time I really don't have on this! -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Software for children learning ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) i...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Marketing] New Fedora Spins Site
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Iain Brown Douglas i...@browndouglas.plus.com wrote: On Tue, 2015-05-19 at 19:57 +0200, Sean DALY wrote: Gonzalo - Iain had already consolidated all changes ... almost consolidated! Chat does not really fit in Multimedia, IMHO. It's not in Multimedia, it's in Going online. Make sure you force a reload on the page but Peter doesn't want to deal with a text file. Sean On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Iain, Sean, Sam, _Please_consolidate_the_changes_before_send_to_Peter_. Peter, when need this be finished? Gonzalo On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Iain Brown Douglas i...@browndouglas.plus.com wrote: On Tue, 2015-05-19 at 15:00 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: Hi Peter, On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 9:01 PM Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 5:58 AM, Iain Brown Douglas i...@browndouglas.plus.com wrote: Thanks, Sean, for the careful proof reading. Fair copy attached. I originally included the section Multimedia, as it is the set of Activities in http://spins.stg.fedoraproject.org/en/soas/ but not in the Walter/Sam contribution. I think it is the weakest section. Chat jars a bit on the page, as Chat is used in the Spins page template to refer to IRC. My memory is that Jukebox is not part of the core set (due to non-free components?). You're memory is wrong! It uses gstreamer and there a number of free codecs that come as standard. Thanks, Peter, for the correction. So as a heading, ==Multimedia== containing Jukebox, Record, Imageviewer you feel should remain? I really don't care what it's called but those three are staying, right where they are. A lot of people want to view photos, listen to music etc. As to what it's called, I'm not particularly bothered. Maybe you could download SoaS 22 and actually test it and see what's there! Perhaps the section Multimedia as it stands should be deleted. Not going to happen. This isn't time for bikeshedding, it's time for tweaking the content as it stands. Talking about the headers is not bikeshedding. The headers on the page are not very relevant to an education focused desktop environment - they are headers for a traditional dekstop environment. I was talking about Multimedia as it stands should be deleted so I have no idea why you're talking about the header names. I have stated before the header names need to be updated. I'm still awaiting what they should be updated to. ... awaiting? Understanding and creating content Learning by doing Getting technical Exploring the wider world Multimedia Reflection on what you've learned is from earlier contributions and both my attachments to this thread. As I've said to Sean before, I don't have the time to reconcile opinions coming in from a number of locations. Peter, that is why I have tried to help by drawing the contributions onto one attachment, are you receiving your email without attachments? No, I drop all attachments from mailing lists unless they are text patches,
Re: [Sugar-devel] Communication between two Activities
Hi James, Is this meant to be a reply to an existing thread? Thanks, Sam On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 12:01 PM James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: Are the two activities on: - separate computers, or - the same computer? If the two activities are on separate computers, do they have the same bundle id? If the two activities are on the same computer, do they share the same display? -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Test-Announce] Fedora 22 Final Release Compose 1 (RC1) Available Now!
Hi All, We're in the last stretch so we're now down to critical fixes. Please test and let me know ASAP. Peter https://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/22_RC1/Images/armhfp/Fedora-SoaS-armhfp-22-1-sda.raw.xz https://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/22_RC1/Live/x86_64/Fedora-Live-SoaS-x86_64-22-1.iso https://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/22_RC1/Live/i386/Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-22-1.iso -- Forwarded message -- From: Petr Schindler pschi...@redhat.com Date: Wed, May 20, 2015 at 9:44 AM Subject: [Test-Announce] Fedora 22 Final Release Compose 1 (RC1) Available Now! To: test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora 22 Final Release Compose 1 (RC1) is now available for testing. Please help us complete as much of the validation testing as we can! This is first release compose so everything should be tested properly. Content information, including changes, can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6166#comment:9 . Please see the following pages for download links and testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the fastest download, but download- ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it, just replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL. Installation: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test Base: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test Workstation and Desktop: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test Server: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Server_Test Cloud: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Cloud_Test Summary: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Summary All non-Optional test cases for each of these test pages [2] must pass in order to meet the Final Release Criteria [3]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [4], or on the test list [5]. Create Fedora 22 Final test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC) https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6166 Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current Fedora 22 QA schedule: http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-22/f-22-quality-tasks.html [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_22_Final_Release_Criteria [4] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa [5] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test ___ test-announce mailing list test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test-announce -- test mailing list t...@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Marketing] New Fedora Spins Site
On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Iain Brown Douglas i...@browndouglas.plus.com wrote: On Tue, 2015-05-19 at 11:39 -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: Iain, Sean, Sam, _Please_consolidate_the_changes_before_send_to_Peter_. Thanks, Gonzalo, is good advice. I've just spent two hours manually providing updates. It will be live on staging shortly. Please provide any further updates against that. My apologies to the other contributors, Sam, Walter and Sean for clouding their perfectly useful work. The text that I have called the Walter/Sam contribution is on this thread. Sean's improved text reads: #-# Sugar on a Stick is a Fedora-based operating system featuring the award-winning Sugar Learning Platform and designed to fit on an ordinary USB thumbdrive (stick). Sugar sets aside the traditional office-desktop metaphor, presenting a child-friendly simple graphical environment. Sugar automatically saves the child's progress to a Journal on your stick, so teachers and parents can easily pull up all collaborative web browsing sessions done in the past week or papers written with Daniel and Sarah in the last 24 hours with a simple query rather than memorizing complex file/folder structures. Applications in Sugar are known as Activities, some of which are described below. It is now deployable for the cost of a stick rather than a laptop; students can take their Sugar on a Stick thumbdrive to any machine - at school, at home, at a library or community center - and boot their customized computing environment without touching the host machine's hard disk or existing system at all. #-# I feel that this is the limit of my ability to achieve consensus. I have a plain text copy of the above two elements plus Sean's proof_reading_corrections, if it is required. Iain Peter, when need this be finished? Gonzalo On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Iain Brown Douglas i...@browndouglas.plus.com wrote: On Tue, 2015-05-19 at 15:00 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: Hi Peter, On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 9:01 PM Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 5:58 AM, Iain Brown Douglas i...@browndouglas.plus.com wrote: Thanks, Sean, for the careful proof reading. Fair copy attached. I originally included the section Multimedia, as it is the set of Activities in http://spins.stg.fedoraproject.org/en/soas/ but not in the Walter/Sam contribution. I think it is the weakest section. Chat jars a bit on the page, as Chat is used in the Spins page template to refer to IRC. My memory is that Jukebox is not part of the core set (due to non-free components?). You're memory is wrong! It uses gstreamer and there a number of free codecs that come as standard. Thanks, Peter, for the correction. So as a heading, ==Multimedia== containing Jukebox, Record, Imageviewer you feel should remain? I really don't care what it's called but those three are staying, right where they are. A lot of people want to view photos, listen to music etc. As to what it's called, I'm not particularly bothered. Maybe you could download SoaS 22 and actually test it and see what's there! Perhaps the section Multimedia as it stands should be deleted. Not going to happen. This isn't time for bikeshedding, it's time for tweaking the content as it stands. Talking about the headers is not bikeshedding. The headers on the page are not very relevant to an education focused desktop environment - they are headers for a traditional dekstop environment. I was talking about Multimedia as it stands should be deleted so I have no idea why you're talking about the header names. I have stated before the header names need to be updated. I'm still awaiting what they should be updated to. ... awaiting? Understanding and creating content Learning by doing Getting technical Exploring the wider world Multimedia Reflection on what you've learned is from earlier contributions and both my attachments to this thread. As I've
Re: [Sugar-devel] Communication between two Activities
Walter, There are two different activities, and the communication could be asynchronous. I not sure, if the the comment bellow, can confuse you, if yes, please forget that. The process who send the message, could be just a script, isn't needed it be an Activity. Thanks. On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: Gustavo, Are they two instances of the same activity or two different activities? Is the communication synchronous or asynchronous? -walter On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 6:35 AM, Gustavo Duarte gus.dua...@gmail.com wrote: James, I should be more specific, sorry, in my case, the two Activities are on the same computer. Sam, Are a thread about this, already ? Thanks. Gustavo On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 6:46 AM, Sam P. sam.parkins...@gmail.com wrote: Hi James, Is this meant to be a reply to an existing thread? Thanks, Sam On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 12:01 PM James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: Are the two activities on: - separate computers, or - the same computer? If the two activities are on separate computers, do they have the same bundle id? If the two activities are on the same computer, do they share the same display? -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Communication between two Activities
Hi Gustavo, I think would help if you explain the specific use case. The activity who will receive the message is a specific activity, and you will send it from a script or service? Can the activity just monitor a file or something like that? Gonzalo On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Gustavo Duarte gus.dua...@gmail.com wrote: Walter, There are two different activities, and the communication could be asynchronous. I not sure, if the the comment bellow, can confuse you, if yes, please forget that. The process who send the message, could be just a script, isn't needed it be an Activity. Thanks. On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: Gustavo, Are they two instances of the same activity or two different activities? Is the communication synchronous or asynchronous? -walter On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 6:35 AM, Gustavo Duarte gus.dua...@gmail.com wrote: James, I should be more specific, sorry, in my case, the two Activities are on the same computer. Sam, Are a thread about this, already ? Thanks. Gustavo On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 6:46 AM, Sam P. sam.parkins...@gmail.com wrote: Hi James, Is this meant to be a reply to an existing thread? Thanks, Sam On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 12:01 PM James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: Are the two activities on: - separate computers, or - the same computer? If the two activities are on separate computers, do they have the same bundle id? If the two activities are on the same computer, do they share the same display? -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Software for children learning ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [Announcing] UNSTABLE 0.105.1 (feature frozen)
Good work! I forwarded to iaep mailing list. Gonzalo On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 8:51 PM, German Ruiz - FundacionZT gr...@fundacionzt.org wrote: 2015-05-19 14:35 GMT-06:00 Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com: Many thanks German! On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 4:25 PM, German Ruiz - FundacionZT gr...@fundacionzt.org wrote: 2015-05-18 7:45 GMT-06:00 Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com : Hello everyone, I am pleased to announce a new release of our road to 0.106 development cycle. This release marks the end of the period for including new features [1], from now on, we will focus on stability, translations and improving existing features. For those interested in testing and/or packaging I recommend to look at the new merged features [2]. Tarballs: http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar/sugar-0.105.1.tar.xz http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-toolkit-gtk3/sugar-toolkit-gtk3-0.105.1.tar.xz http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-artwork/sugar-artwork-0.105.1.tar.xz http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-datastore/sugar-datastore-0.105.1.tar.xz http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-runner/sugar-runner-0.105.1.tar.xz Many thanks to the developers who contributed this release! Martin. Refs: 1. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.106/Roadmap 2. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.106/Feature_List ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel Hello Sugar community For those who want to test this version on sugar on XO1 and 1.5, you can follow instructions detailed here http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.106/Testing Regards Images for XO's with Sugar-0.105.1, please test it :) = XO1 = http://dev.laptop.org/~german/SL0105/1/32002SL0.img http://dev.laptop.org/~german/SL0105/1/32002SL0.crc http://dev.laptop.org/~german/SL0105/1/32002SL0.img.md5 = XO1.5 = http://dev.laptop.org/~german/SL0105/15/32002SL1.zd http://dev.laptop.org/~german/SL0105/15/32002SL1.zd.md5 = XO1.75 = Coming soon! = XO4 = Coming soon! I've built with olpc-os-builder v7.0 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.106/Testing#Testing_with_a_XO_.28XO_Images.29 -- German R ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Software for children learning ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Marketing] New Fedora Spins Site
Thanks Peter, I was watching that too. If I understand correctly switching/changing the sections or adding an Activity is beyond tweaks? while text changes are tweaks. I'm quite happy with it, even though there are lots of changes we suggested which aren't in. I feel the only tweak still to make is to add under the Journal: The Journal provides an interface into a datastore of everything you've created in Sugar. Bookmarking and commenting tools integrate with the Journal to allow parents and teachers to review a child's learning progress. The Journal is central to the Sugar experience and we rightly call it out in the Intro, but I feel the description under it is too brief. Thanks again for making all this happen. Sean On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: _Please_consolidate_the_changes_before_send_to_Peter_. Thanks, Gonzalo, is good advice. I've just spent two hours manually providing updates. It will be live on staging shortly. Please provide any further updates against that. Right the new updated content is live on staging. Please shift+reload to ensure you have the latest revision. Section titles updated etc. http://spins.stg.fedoraproject.org/en/soas/ Please provide updates against that in a email without html formatting. Pure text in an email. We have basically today to get the last tweaks in and then it's done. Thanks, Peter ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) i...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] The new kid on the block
Welcome VIbhor, Use this mailing list to ask any technical question I don't know if you already have a working Sugar environment, but you can found more information in developer.sugarlabs.org Gonzalo On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 7:00 PM, Sam P. sam.parkins...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, It is great to see more people becoming engaged with Sugar! I'm not sure what this google group is, however, we already have many mailing lists [1]. Please consider using an existing mailing list as we should not aim for a fragmented community. Thanks, Sam [1] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/ On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 1:26 AM Vibhor Sehgal sehgalvib...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I am Vibhor Sehgal , a student from India. I am new to this list ! I heard about SugarLabs through Google Summer of Code and wanted to contribute to the community as a summer of code intern which was definitely a selfish motive.I worked on the project Web Confusion which is being mentored by Tony Anderson, but i wasn't selected for Summer of code 2015. However, Tony gave me a chance to work as a volunteer on this project during the summer. I got so attached to this community and my mentor, who is indeed very supportive that i couldn't refuse the offer. So, I and a group of few more developers are working on the project Web Confusion which basically will teach students about the web technologies like Html, Css and Javascript. I have created a small google group also,so that each and everybody can stay up to date. We'd love to add more people to the group. Also, I have created a mock activity which I will be hosting soon on Github. Feels Great! Thanks! -- Vibhor Sehgal 'Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars.' ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Software for children learning ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Marketing] New Fedora Spins Site
_Please_consolidate_the_changes_before_send_to_Peter_. Thanks, Gonzalo, is good advice. I've just spent two hours manually providing updates. It will be live on staging shortly. Please provide any further updates against that. Right the new updated content is live on staging. Please shift+reload to ensure you have the latest revision. Section titles updated etc. http://spins.stg.fedoraproject.org/en/soas/ Please provide updates against that in a email without html formatting. Pure text in an email. We have basically today to get the last tweaks in and then it's done. Thanks, Peter ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Communication between two Activities
Hi Gonzalo, Sure, I'll try explain the user case. Notificator: There is a Sugar Activity who shows Notification messages for the kid. Daemon: There is an script running on cron, who get new notification from a Server. I need communicate the Daemon with the Notificator, so when Daemon receive a new notification from Server, it'll send a signal to Notificator. Notificator when receive the signal, should refresh a widget. I know a way to do that, using system signals, but i wonder if Sugar has another way to achieve that. Thanks. On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi Gustavo, I think would help if you explain the specific use case. The activity who will receive the message is a specific activity, and you will send it from a script or service? Can the activity just monitor a file or something like that? Gonzalo On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Gustavo Duarte gus.dua...@gmail.com wrote: Walter, There are two different activities, and the communication could be asynchronous. I not sure, if the the comment bellow, can confuse you, if yes, please forget that. The process who send the message, could be just a script, isn't needed it be an Activity. Thanks. On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: Gustavo, Are they two instances of the same activity or two different activities? Is the communication synchronous or asynchronous? -walter On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 6:35 AM, Gustavo Duarte gus.dua...@gmail.com wrote: James, I should be more specific, sorry, in my case, the two Activities are on the same computer. Sam, Are a thread about this, already ? Thanks. Gustavo On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 6:46 AM, Sam P. sam.parkins...@gmail.com wrote: Hi James, Is this meant to be a reply to an existing thread? Thanks, Sam On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 12:01 PM James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: Are the two activities on: - separate computers, or - the same computer? If the two activities are on separate computers, do they have the same bundle id? If the two activities are on the same computer, do they share the same display? -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Software for children learning ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Communication between two Activities
The notificator can write the notification to a file, and the activity can use Gio.FileMonitor to know when the file was updated. Just for curiosity, why not use the Sugar notifications? Gonzalo On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Gustavo Duarte gus.dua...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Gonzalo, Sure, I'll try explain the user case. Notificator: There is a Sugar Activity who shows Notification messages for the kid. Daemon: There is an script running on cron, who get new notification from a Server. I need communicate the Daemon with the Notificator, so when Daemon receive a new notification from Server, it'll send a signal to Notificator. Notificator when receive the signal, should refresh a widget. I know a way to do that, using system signals, but i wonder if Sugar has another way to achieve that. Thanks. On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi Gustavo, I think would help if you explain the specific use case. The activity who will receive the message is a specific activity, and you will send it from a script or service? Can the activity just monitor a file or something like that? Gonzalo On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Gustavo Duarte gus.dua...@gmail.com wrote: Walter, There are two different activities, and the communication could be asynchronous. I not sure, if the the comment bellow, can confuse you, if yes, please forget that. The process who send the message, could be just a script, isn't needed it be an Activity. Thanks. On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: Gustavo, Are they two instances of the same activity or two different activities? Is the communication synchronous or asynchronous? -walter On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 6:35 AM, Gustavo Duarte gus.dua...@gmail.com wrote: James, I should be more specific, sorry, in my case, the two Activities are on the same computer. Sam, Are a thread about this, already ? Thanks. Gustavo On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 6:46 AM, Sam P. sam.parkins...@gmail.com wrote: Hi James, Is this meant to be a reply to an existing thread? Thanks, Sam On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 12:01 PM James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: Are the two activities on: - separate computers, or - the same computer? If the two activities are on separate computers, do they have the same bundle id? If the two activities are on the same computer, do they share the same display? -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Software for children learning ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Software for children learning ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Communication between two Activities
Thanks Gonzalo. Because, the kind of messages to showing are html. On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: The notificator can write the notification to a file, and the activity can use Gio.FileMonitor to know when the file was updated. Just for curiosity, why not use the Sugar notifications? Gonzalo On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Gustavo Duarte gus.dua...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Gonzalo, Sure, I'll try explain the user case. Notificator: There is a Sugar Activity who shows Notification messages for the kid. Daemon: There is an script running on cron, who get new notification from a Server. I need communicate the Daemon with the Notificator, so when Daemon receive a new notification from Server, it'll send a signal to Notificator. Notificator when receive the signal, should refresh a widget. I know a way to do that, using system signals, but i wonder if Sugar has another way to achieve that. Thanks. On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi Gustavo, I think would help if you explain the specific use case. The activity who will receive the message is a specific activity, and you will send it from a script or service? Can the activity just monitor a file or something like that? Gonzalo On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Gustavo Duarte gus.dua...@gmail.com wrote: Walter, There are two different activities, and the communication could be asynchronous. I not sure, if the the comment bellow, can confuse you, if yes, please forget that. The process who send the message, could be just a script, isn't needed it be an Activity. Thanks. On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: Gustavo, Are they two instances of the same activity or two different activities? Is the communication synchronous or asynchronous? -walter On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 6:35 AM, Gustavo Duarte gus.dua...@gmail.com wrote: James, I should be more specific, sorry, in my case, the two Activities are on the same computer. Sam, Are a thread about this, already ? Thanks. Gustavo On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 6:46 AM, Sam P. sam.parkins...@gmail.com wrote: Hi James, Is this meant to be a reply to an existing thread? Thanks, Sam On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 12:01 PM James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: Are the two activities on: - separate computers, or - the same computer? If the two activities are on separate computers, do they have the same bundle id? If the two activities are on the same computer, do they share the same display? -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Software for children learning ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Software for children learning ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Image Viewer-62
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4032 Sugar Platform: 0.98 - 0.104 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/29112/image_viewer-62.xo Release notes: Use object chooser with preview if available Restart a instance without a file should show the emptypanel Added Ctrl+q Shortcut - Fixes #4856 (rohitsakala) Change order of toolbar - Fixes #3352 (Ignacio RodrÃguez) Sugar Labs Activities http://activities.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Communication between two Activities
On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 10:43:23AM -0300, Gustavo Duarte wrote: Notificator: There is a Sugar Activity who shows Notification messages for the kid. Daemon: There is an script running on cron, who get new notification from a Server. I need communicate the Daemon with the Notificator, so when Daemon receive a new notification from Server, it'll send a signal to Notificator. Notificator when receive the signal, should refresh a widget. I know a way to do that, using system signals, but i wonder if Sugar has another way to achieve that. What you describe is interprocess communication. Sugar uses several methods for communication with system daemons. The most frequently coded is D-Bus. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-Bus Other methods in Python are https://docs.python.org/2/library/ipc.html You can use files, as Gonzalo says, but try to place them in a path that does not cause writes to disk; e.g. /tmp ... otherwise sometimes the kernel will reschedule the process that is writing, and this can slow performance. My preference for your scenario is signals: 1. Notificator calls os.getpid and writes to /tmp/notificator.pid 2. Notificator calls signal.signal to request a callback on SIGUSR1, 3. Daemon reads /tmp/notificator.pid and calls os.kill(pid, SIGUSR1), kill(1), or kill(3) to send signal. An example here: http://dev.laptop.org/git/projects/runin/tree/runin-gtk Signals become more complex if the communication is complex, and there are a limited number of different signals. That's when I would suggest D-Bus. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] SOAS Fedora 22 Final Release: Collaboration in Activities
With SOAS Fedora 22 coming to the stage of final release I would like to know if we can expect the collaboative features of Sugar to be functioning. I tried Memorize, Maze and Write with two SOAS and it did not work. Have reported this issue before. Cheers --- T.K. Kang ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS Fedora 22 Final Release: Collaboration in Activities
On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 08:10:38PM -0700, Thomas Gilliard wrote: On 5/20/2015 6:52 PM, James Cameron wrote: Are you finding this problem with peer to peer (telepathy salut) or with a jabber server (telepathy gabble)? Do the two SOAS share a network? Did previous SOAS work okay? Is there a ticket number? https://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/3629 maybe there are a lot of tickets Yeah, that one doesn't match. What I'm after are detailed problem descriptions; not a it doesn't work, why don't you test it to prove me wrong, but rather what was tried, what the result was, and what the expectation was. One problem description for each of the three connection methods; with Jabber, without Jabber but with access point, and with ad-hoc. I like the way you fixed the OLPC sugar Ubuntu! collaboration in sugar 0.104 on jabber.sugarlabs.org Thanks, but we're talking about SOAS in this thread. The fedora 22 RC-2 collaboration fails Shared activities and collaboration has failed since about 0.98 in fedora Thanks. (This is worrying. Collaboration is so fundamental and yet it has stayed broken for so long?) I don't think this relates to 0.98, because 0.98 works fine on other Fedora systems such as XO laptops. But that gives us a date range. Thomas, check your notes; did it work with a Fedora 18 SOAS? -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS Fedora 22 Final Release: Collaboration in Activities
On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 04:11:45AM +, tkk...@nurturingasia.com wrote: Okay, and please bear with me; I don't have the data quota to download SOAS images; but is the Server entry box in the Collaboration section of the Network panel of the My Settings set or is it blank? It has the jabber.sugalabs.org and I have blank it out first for my testing. So if you do not blank it out, but leave it as it is, and allow it to connect to jabber.sugarlabs.org, everything works fine? (When I do that on other than SOAS, there are many icons on neighbourhood view. I'm able to invite the other non-XO to chat, and it works fine.) If using jabber.sugarlabs.org works fine on SOAS, then this is not so severe a problem. I registered the two SOAS-22 with the schoolserver. Both shows in the neighbourhood BUT a shared activity will not show (it showed when it is not registered befroe) in the neighbourhood. I use 2 registered XO and the shared activities will show. The SOAS can join but will not work as in my previous setting. The XO collaboration works OK. Thanks. I agree it sounds like a problem specific to Fedora 22 or SOAS. Okay, that's interesting. Ha .. you love interesting stuff to troubleshoot. Hope the issue get sorted out or we are losing a great feature. Peter would be able to tell us for sure, but my guess is that it won't be fixed before this spin of SOAS is released. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS Fedora 22 Final Release: Collaboration in Activities
I tested the 2 SOAS-22 via a connection to the schoolserver AP. Collaboration works normally between XOs-1 running 13.2.4. In Adhoc network connection I could not see the other person in neighbourhood view. I think collaboration work on SOAS-17 and below as I alway try to see if the SOAS would work with XOs by testing maze, write, etc. -Original Message- From: tkk...@nurturingasia.com [mailto:tkk...@nurturingasia.com] Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 09:32 AM To: pbrobin...@gmail.com, sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: SOAS Fedora 22 Final Release: Collaboration in Activities With SOAS Fedora 22 coming to the stage of final release I would like to know if we can expect the collaboative features of Sugar to be functioning. I tried Memorize, Maze and Write with two SOAS and it did not work. Have reported this issue before. Cheers --- T.K. Kang ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] alert(Hello Sugar !);(Utkarsh Dhawan)
Hi, My name is Utkarsh Dhawan,I am a Second Year Engineering student at Mumbai University.I am new to the open source community but have started developing a keen interest in it.I want to contribute to this community with a soul purpose of learning something out of it.This summer I would be working on the project *Web Confusion* under the mentoring of *Tony Anderson. *The project would be merged with the Interactive Javascript Shell and would aim at teaching the user Web Designing skills. Hoping to have a sugary experience. Thanking You, Utkarsh Dhawan (Developer/Student) Note:Please Consider The environment before printing. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS Fedora 22 Final Release: Collaboration in Activities
This keeps coming up. I believe that due to changes in telepathy, collaboration (at least for Jabber) has not worked for the past few Fedora releases. Given collaboration is supposed to be one of the core features of Sugar, this makes it hard to promote. On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 12:36 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 04:11:45AM +, tkk...@nurturingasia.com wrote: Okay, and please bear with me; I don't have the data quota to download SOAS images; but is the Server entry box in the Collaboration section of the Network panel of the My Settings set or is it blank? It has the jabber.sugalabs.org and I have blank it out first for my testing. So if you do not blank it out, but leave it as it is, and allow it to connect to jabber.sugarlabs.org, everything works fine? (When I do that on other than SOAS, there are many icons on neighbourhood view. I'm able to invite the other non-XO to chat, and it works fine.) If using jabber.sugarlabs.org works fine on SOAS, then this is not so severe a problem. I registered the two SOAS-22 with the schoolserver. Both shows in the neighbourhood BUT a shared activity will not show (it showed when it is not registered befroe) in the neighbourhood. I use 2 registered XO and the shared activities will show. The SOAS can join but will not work as in my previous setting. The XO collaboration works OK. Thanks. I agree it sounds like a problem specific to Fedora 22 or SOAS. Okay, that's interesting. Ha .. you love interesting stuff to troubleshoot. Hope the issue get sorted out or we are losing a great feature. Peter would be able to tell us for sure, but my guess is that it won't be fixed before this spin of SOAS is released. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS Fedora 22 Final Release: Collaboration in Activities
Is this registered to the schoolserver? Or only connected to the AP? Only connected to the Schoolserver via the AP without registration. Did you see the person in neighbourhood view while using the AP? Yes they showed up together with any other activities shared by the XO. Could join by the activities but not collaborate - for the memorize the game do not load, for write it does not shared what is typed. Cheers ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS Fedora 22 Final Release: Collaboration in Activities
On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 03:10:17AM +, tkk...@nurturingasia.com wrote: I tested the 2 SOAS-22 via a connection to the schoolserver AP. Is this registered to the schoolserver? Or only connected to the AP? In Adhoc network connection I could not see the other person in neighbourhood view. Did you see the person in neighbourhood view while using the AP? -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS Fedora 22 Final Release: Collaboration in Activities
Okay, and please bear with me; I don't have the data quota to download SOAS images; but is the Server entry box in the Collaboration section of the Network panel of the My Settings set or is it blank? It has the jabber.sugalabs.org and I have blank it out first for my testing. I registered the two SOAS-22 with the schoolserver. Both shows in the neighbourhood BUT a shared activity will not show (it showed when it is not registered befroe) in the neighbourhood. I use 2 registered XO and the shared activities will show. The SOAS can join but will not work as in my previous setting. The XO collaboration works OK. Okay, that's interesting. Ha .. you love interesting stuff to troubleshoot. Hope the issue get sorted out or we are losing a great feature. Cheers -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS Fedora 22 Final Release: Collaboration in Activities
Thanks Samuel. So there is effort needed to port Sugar to the versions of Telepathy in use in Fedora and whatever other distributions are used. I'm in favour of that. On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 01:03:38AM -0400, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: This keeps coming up. I believe that due to changes in telepathy, collaboration (at least for Jabber) has not worked for the past few Fedora releases. Given collaboration is supposed to be one of the core features of Sugar, this makes it hard to promote. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS Fedora 22 Final Release: Collaboration in Activities
Are you finding this problem with peer to peer (telepathy salut) or with a jabber server (telepathy gabble)? Do the two SOAS share a network? Did previous SOAS work okay? Is there a ticket number? -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS Fedora 22 Final Release: Collaboration in Activities
On 5/20/2015 6:52 PM, James Cameron wrote: Are you finding this problem with peer to peer (telepathy salut) or with a jabber server (telepathy gabble)? Do the two SOAS share a network? Did previous SOAS work okay? Is there a ticket number? I like the way you fixed the OLPC sugar Ubuntu! collaboration in sugar 0.104 on jabber.sugarlabs.org [1] The fedora 22 RC-2 collaboration fails [2] Shared activities and collaboration has failed since about 0.98 in fedora [1] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/olpc-ubuntu-sugar-14.04.2-desktop-amd64-1432093697.iso [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_22_Final_RC2_Desktop#Release-blocking_desktops:_x86_.2F_x86_64 Tom Gilliard satellit ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS Fedora 22 Final Release: Collaboration in Activities
On 5/20/2015 8:10 PM, Thomas Gilliard wrote: On 5/20/2015 6:52 PM, James Cameron wrote: Are you finding this problem with peer to peer (telepathy salut) or with a jabber server (telepathy gabble)? Do the two SOAS share a network? Did previous SOAS work okay? Is there a ticket number? I like the way you fixed the OLPC sugar Ubuntu! collaboration in sugar 0.104 on jabber.sugarlabs.org [1] The fedora 22 RC-2 collaboration fails [2] Shared activities and collaboration has failed since about 0.98 in fedora [1] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/olpc-ubuntu-sugar-14.04.2-desktop-amd64-1432093697.iso [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_22_Final_RC2_Desktop#Release-blocking_desktops:_x86_.2F_x86_64 Tom Gilliard satellit https://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/3629 maybe there are a lot of tickets ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS Fedora 22 Final Release: Collaboration in Activities
On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 03:26:41AM +, tkk...@nurturingasia.com wrote: Is this registered to the schoolserver? Or only connected to the AP? Only connected to the Schoolserver via the AP without registration. Okay, and please bear with me; I don't have the data quota to download SOAS images; but is the Server entry box in the Collaboration section of the Network panel of the My Settings set or is it blank? Did you see the person in neighbourhood view while using the AP? Yes they showed up together with any other activities shared by the XO. Could join by the activities but not collaborate - for the memorize the game do not load, for write it does not shared what is typed. Okay, that's interesting. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS Fedora 22 Final Release: Collaboration in Activities
Thanks Samuel. So there is effort needed to port Sugar to the versions of Telepathy in use in Fedora and whatever other distributions are used. I'm in favour of that. + 1 hope a SOaS (sos) call will get it back to its core functionality and uniqueness. Thank you all for the feedback. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS Fedora 22 Final Release: Collaboration in Activities
This keeps coming up. I believe that due to changes in telepathy, collaboration (at least for Jabber) has not worked for the past few Fedora releases. Not sure which version but in the past I did have some fun linking up XO-1 and SOAS for varied shared activities. Reliability was good enough at times. Given collaboration is supposed to be one of the core features of Sugar, this makes it hard to promote. Indeed this will be an issue if we give the release web a new face and people start trying things out (a few perhaps) in initial testing. Cheers ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS Fedora 22 Final Release: Collaboration in Activities
On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 05:39:35AM +, tkk...@nurturingasia.com wrote: Indeed this will be an issue if we give the release web a new face and people start trying things out (a few perhaps) in initial testing. Actually, no, it won't be an issue, because those people will ignore the collaboration features; they are very difficult to discover, and they won't have been prepared to expect them. They will assume that Browse and web sites give them all the collaboration functionality they need. The only activity on the release page that really requires collaboration to work is the Chat activity. All the others can be used alone. So rather than reflecting badly on Sugar, such people will blame Chat for not working. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS Fedora 22 Final Release: Collaboration in Activities
So if you do not blank it out, but leave it as it is, and allow it to connect to jabber.sugarlabs.org, everything works fine? Did my last testing with conection to jabber.sugarlabs.org. Not able to get the shared activity to show/display to join and test. So things are really broken :-( ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Marketing] New Fedora Spins Site
On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Peter, I was watching that too. If I understand correctly switching/changing the sections or adding an Activity is beyond tweaks? while text changes are tweaks. We need to stop somewhere and say Yes, this is good enough and I really don't have the time to deal with more updates. It's easy to keep changing the room around when you don't have to do the work. Feel free to suggest changes, but don't be offended if they don't happen :) There were some Activities that were being suggested that we don't even have packaged in Fedora eg here is Develop, I'd never even heard of that. Ultimately the people making suggestions should actually download and see what is there on what we ship :-) I'm quite happy with it, even though there are lots of changes we suggested which aren't in. I feel the only tweak still to make is to add under the Journal: The Journal provides an interface into a datastore of everything you've created in Sugar. Bookmarking and commenting tools integrate with the Journal to allow parents and teachers to review a child's learning progress. The Journal is central to the Sugar experience and we rightly call it out in the Intro, but I feel the description under it is too brief. I've pushed that change in. Thanks again for making all this happen. No problems, I think both the actual SoaS 22 and the new site look really good together! Sean On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: _Please_consolidate_the_changes_before_send_to_Peter_. Thanks, Gonzalo, is good advice. I've just spent two hours manually providing updates. It will be live on staging shortly. Please provide any further updates against that. Right the new updated content is live on staging. Please shift+reload to ensure you have the latest revision. Section titles updated etc. http://spins.stg.fedoraproject.org/en/soas/ Please provide updates against that in a email without html formatting. Pure text in an email. We have basically today to get the last tweaks in and then it's done. Thanks, Peter ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) i...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
