Re: sundial on the moon

2012-05-21 Thread David Patte
From a point on the moon, the suns motion is probably not smooth enough to 
build a usable sundial to measure a lunar day (which is close to a terrestrial 
month). 
And using 'earth light' on a lunar based dial would probably not be very 
effective either, since the earth's position in the lunar sky, except for minor 
variations, is mostly constant from any position on the moon. 
Sent from my BlackBerry. 

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From: Mac Oglesby ogle...@sover.net
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 10:36:20 
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Subject: Re: sundial on the moon


Hello Ken,

Since I don't have the skills myself, I'm hoping 
someone on this list will accept your challenge 
to design a sundial for Armstrong's landing site, 
and share the design with us.

Best wishes,

Mac Oglesby




Hi everyone,

  I finally got to meet Homer Hickam the 
author of Rocket Boys at the Science and 
Engineering Festival in Washington DC.  I 
designed a sundial based on the book (file 
attached) in 2004 while doing educational 
sundial displays telling people about the two 
sundials that NASA put on the Mars rovers.
  I am now reading his new book Crater which 
is about people living on the moon in the 
future.  He talks about the long shadow, periods 
of darkness, when the sun is not up.  What would 
a horizontal sundial look like on the moon at 
the Neil Armstrong landing site?  What kind of 
time system would be used on the moon?
  I am just looking for some ideas to suggest 
to him to include a sundial in his next book. 
Thanks in advanced.
Ken Clark 
Elizabethtown, PA

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RE: Solar Eclipse Sundial

2012-05-21 Thread Jack Aubert
We had one like that when I was living in Morocco.  We had driven from Rabat
to Casablanca to see it, and were sitting on a terrace drinking beer when it
happened.
  
I call them nebular eclipses.  

Jack

-Original Message-
From: sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] On
Behalf Of Roger Bailey
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 11:36 PM
To: Sundial List
Subject: Re: Solar Eclipse Sundial

Hi Bill and all,

The weather forecast for the eclipse was correct. The weather was rotten: 
the eclipse here was obscured by clouds. The loss of light from the eclipse
was not any different from a darker patch of clouds. However, I was able to
observe the eclipse. At the time of the eclipse maximum, the clouds did
clear enough to see that the eclipse was in progress in progress. See
attached photo. No optical aids like pin hole cameras, binocular projections
etc were required. The sun was barely visible to the naked eye  through the
clouds. There were no opportunities to explore an eclipse sundial like the
one you proposed for San Mateo (San Francisco). I hope others had clearer
skies.

The picture was taken at 6:17 pm PDST. The times listed below are standard
time, an hour earlier so the picture shows the eclipse maximum in Victoria
BC.

Regards, Roger bailey

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From: Roger Bailey rtbai...@telus.net
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 9:13 PM
To: Sundial List sundial@uni-koeln.de
Subject: Fw: Solar Eclipse Sundial

 Hello again,

 Thanks Bill. Your note alerted me to check further and to prepare for 
 observations. I did some checking based on your note and now see this 
 is something to look forward to. The eclipse will be fairly 
 significant even if I am north of the center line. I will set up a 
 system to observe and photograph the event but cloud and rain is 
 forecast for Sunday after a week of summer sunshine.

Eclipse Max. Eclipse Sun Sun 
 Eclip. Eclip.
 Location Begins Eclipse Ends Alt  Azm 
 Mag. Obs.
 h m  h m  h m ° °
 Victoria, BC16:00   17:16   18::25 24  274 0.819 
 0.751
 San Mateo, CA  16:15   17:32   18:39  19  282  0.897 
 0.842

 http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/OH/OHtables/OH2012-Tab02.pdf

 See you in Asheville.  Regards,
 Roger Bailey

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 From: Bill Gottesman billgottes...@comcast.net
 Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 10:53 AM
 To: Sundial Mailing List sund...@rrz.uni-koeln.de
 Subject: Solar Eclipse Sundial

 Hello Sundialists,

 Here is a link to a new type of paper sundial made specifically for 
 the partial solar eclipse viewed from San Mateo, California this Sunday.
 You need a simple pin-hole projector (a card with a small hole in 
 it) to use it.

 http://tinyurl.com/86gtkcr  (file is a .pdf that can be printed for 
 use)

 If anyone will be in the area at that time, I would love to hear if 
 it works, and see a photo of it in use if possible.  The math was 
 more challenging than I expected.

 I plan to talk a little bit about this project at the NASS meeting 
 this summer in Asheville, NC.

 -Bill
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