Re: 3D printing

2014-12-05 Thread Tony Moss
Hi all,
 I mentioned the possibility of making elaborate pierced gnomons using 
3D printing in a very recent article in BSS Bulletin but I never expected the 
real possibility to be so near at hand.  Using plastic printed 'patterns' from 
which to cast e.g. bronze gnomons would probably result in a non-rigid result 
as cast metal is usually quite soft.  I wonder if we will ever be able to print 
particulate metals in 3D which could then be 'sintered'.  This process is 
rather like baking a cake but using metal ingredients to make rigid components.

No doubt I will probably now find that facts have overtaken this thought 
already. :-(

Tony Moss

 

 

 

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ooops  ~ the pictures I attached were for the dial without longitude 
correction, sorry. Not relevant to the issue at hand, namely the key point was 
the use of the .STL file type and suffix. US printer prices are similar to 
those in Australia I think, I imagine other printer vendors may use a file type 
other than .STL however their software should spell out what their printer 
needs.


Simon







Simon Wheaton-Smith
www.illustratingshadows.com
Phoenix, Arizona, W112.1 N33.5

 
  
 
 
 
   From: John Pickard john.pick...@bigpond.com
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 Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2014 6:11 PM
 Subject: 3D printers
  
 

Good morning,

There was some discussion on the list a few months ago about 3D printers.

One of the leading electronics stores in Australia is now selling DIY kits 
for a small 3D printer (Velleman K8200) for $AUD1300. It's a desk-top unit 
that purely by chance I saw in operation at the local library a day or so 
ago.

http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=TL4020

More info on the kit: www.k8200.eu

The max dimensions of printed objects is 200 x 200 x 200 mm, which would be 
too small for most outdoor dials, but could be ideal for prototyping 
portable dials (e.g. armillary spheres, ring dials, etc.) The printed 
resolution is: X and Y (wall thickness): 0.5 mm; Z: (layer thickness) 0.20 - 
0.25 mm. Still not comparable to engraving, but an obvious harbinger of 
things to come. If we think about how digital cameras and smart phones now 
have amazing resolution, then most likely the resolution of these 3D 
printers will be much better in a couple of years.

Software is Repetier: www.repetier.com

I have no idea how you enter specifications for an object. I found no 
mention of CAD in my quick reading of material on the Repetier, so I guess 
that they have some other way of doing it.

I have no doubt that similar printers are offered in most countries, and one 
would be a Christmas present!


Cheers, John

John Pickard
john.pick...@bigpond.com

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Re: 3D printing

2014-12-05 Thread Kevin Karney
Dear Friends

For anyone interested to try out 3D printing, laser cutting, CNC routing etc, I 
suggest you see if you have a FabLab anywhere near you. There are hundreds 
around the world and they are springing up all the time. FabLab is the 
brainchild of MIT

Fab Lab is the educational outreach component of MIT’s Center for Bits and 
Atoms (CBA), an extension of its research into digital fabrication and 
computation. A Fab Lab is a technical prototyping platform for innovation and 
invention, providing stimulus for local entrepreneurship. A Fab Lab is also a 
platform for learning and innovation: a place to play, to create, to learn, to 
mentor, to invent. To be a Fab Lab means connecting to a global community of 
learners, educators, technologists, researchers, makers and innovators- -a 
knowledge sharing network that spans 30 countries and 24 time zones. Because 
all Fab Labs share common tools and processes, the program is building a global 
network, a distributed laboratory for research and invention.
See http://www.fabfoundation.org/fab-labs/ 
http://www.fabfoundation.org/fab-labs/ for the location of the labs.

I have (for a modest fee) joined the FabLab in Cardiff - and am having LOTS OF 
FUN. The Lab is attached to the Art  Design department of the University 
(which gives access to lots of brainy switched-on youngsters AND I am once 
again a paid-up student - which brings all kinds of student discounts). Any 
time I want, I can go there and use their software (they have everything - 
including Solidworks) - and, having designed what I want, their computers are 
connected to about 10 3-D printers, 2 Laser cutters a massive 2D CNC router. To 
use the equipment, you pay a small half-hourly charge.

You can see my first gnomonic attempt at 
http://www.fablabcardiff.com/projects/capuchin-sundial/ 
http://www.fablabcardiff.com/projects/capuchin-sundial/  

I am now busy designing a 3D icosahedral dial - in miniature! It will be just 
some 12 cm high, The icosahedral shell and stand will be 3D printed using 20 
micron fused filament Ultimaker. Each face of the icosahedron will have a 1 mm 
depression -  into which the 20 triangular dial faces will be embedded. Each 
face will be laser etched/cut into 1mm thick wood. I have not worked out how to 
do the gnomons yet!

I could do the whole thing on the 3D printer - but this way I can avoid the 
complexities of precise geometry 3D modelling of the dial faces - and replace 
it with the easy 2D design. The laser etching and cutting is lightening fast 
and cheap so I can afford to make plenty of mistakes along the way.

John - if you are toying with buying a 3-D printer, have a look at 
http://printrbot.com/compare-printers/ http://printrbot.com/compare-printers/ 
A student in Cardiff has built one of their $349 models and it looks really 
neat and it works a treat! Be aware that there is plenty of free 3D modelling 
software. (e.g. Blender, openScad, kokopelli) and their output matches all the 
industry standards.

Have fun
Kevin


Best regards
Kevin Karney
Freedom Cottage, Llandogo, Monmouth NP25 4TP, Wales, UK
51° 44' N 2° 41' W Zone 0
+ 44 1594 530 595


 On 5 Dec 2014, at 13:30, Tony Moss tonylindi...@talktalk.net wrote:
 
 Hi all,
  I mentioned the possibility of making elaborate pierced gnomons 
 using 3D printing in a very recent article in BSS Bulletin but I never 
 expected the real possibility to be so near at hand.  Using plastic printed 
 'patterns' from which to cast e.g. bronze gnomons would probably result in a 
 non-rigid result as cast metal is usually quite soft.  I wonder if we will 
 ever be able to print particulate metals in 3D which could then be 
 'sintered'.  This process is rather like baking a cake but using metal 
 ingredients to make rigid components.
 
 No doubt I will probably now find that facts have overtaken this thought 
 already. :-(
 
 Tony Moss
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Simon \[illustratingshadows via sundial sundial@uni-koeln.de 
 mailto:sundial@uni-koeln.de
 To: John Pickard john.pick...@bigpond.com 
 mailto:john.pick...@bigpond.com; Sundial List sundial@uni-koeln.de 
 mailto:sundial@uni-koeln.de
 Sent: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 1:54
 
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 From: Simon [illustratingshadows illustratingshad...@yahoo.com 
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 mailto:sundial@uni-koeln.de
 Subject:  Re: 3D printers - PS an ooops
 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 01:53:26 + (UTC)
 ooops  ~ the pictures I attached were for the dial without longitude 
 correction, sorry. Not relevant to the issue at hand, namely the key point 
 was the use of the .STL file type and suffix. US printer prices are similar 
 to those in Australia I think, I imagine other printer vendors may use a file 
 type other than .STL however their software should spell out what their 
 printer needs.
 
 Simon
 
 
 
 Simon 

Re: 3D printing

2014-12-05 Thread David Bell
Laser sintering 3D printing is definitely a current process! Bronze, stainless, 
and others. 

Dave

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 On Dec 5, 2014, at 5:30 AM, Tony Moss tonylindi...@talktalk.net wrote:
 
 Hi all,
  I mentioned the possibility of making elaborate pierced gnomons 
 using 3D printing in a very recent article in BSS Bulletin but I never 
 expected the real possibility to be so near at hand.  Using plastic printed 
 'patterns' from which to cast e.g. bronze gnomons would probably result in a 
 non-rigid result as cast metal is usually quite soft.  I wonder if we will 
 ever be able to print particulate metals in 3D which could then be 
 'sintered'.  This process is rather like baking a cake but using metal 
 ingredients to make rigid components.
 
 No doubt I will probably now find that facts have overtaken this thought 
 already. :-(
 
 Tony Moss
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Simon \[illustratingshadows via sundial sundial@uni-koeln.de
 To: John Pickard john.pick...@bigpond.com; Sundial List 
 sundial@uni-koeln.de
 Sent: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 1:54
 
 Attached Message
 From: Simon [illustratingshadows illustratingshad...@yahoo.com
 To:   John Pickard john.pick...@bigpond.com; Sundial List 
 sundial@uni-koeln.de
 Subject:  Re: 3D printers - PS an ooops
 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 01:53:26 + (UTC)
 ooops  ~ the pictures I attached were for the dial without longitude 
 correction, sorry. Not relevant to the issue at hand, namely the key point 
 was the use of the .STL file type and suffix. US printer prices are similar 
 to those in Australia I think, I imagine other printer vendors may use a file 
 type other than .STL however their software should spell out what their 
 printer needs.
 
 Simon
 
 
 
 Simon Wheaton-Smith
 www.illustratingshadows.com
 Phoenix, Arizona, W112.1 N33.5
 
 From: John Pickard john.pick...@bigpond.com
 To: Sundial List sundial@uni-koeln.de 
 Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2014 6:11 PM
 Subject: 3D printers
 
 Good morning,
 
 There was some discussion on the list a few months ago about 3D printers.
 
 One of the leading electronics stores in Australia is now selling DIY kits 
 for a small 3D printer (Velleman K8200) for $AUD1300. It's a desk-top unit 
 that purely by chance I saw in operation at the local library a day or so 
 ago.
 
 http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=TL4020
 
 More info on the kit: www.k8200.eu
 
 The max dimensions of printed objects is 200 x 200 x 200 mm, which would be 
 too small for most outdoor dials, but could be ideal for prototyping 
 portable dials (e.g. armillary spheres, ring dials, etc.) The printed 
 resolution is: X and Y (wall thickness): 0.5 mm; Z: (layer thickness) 0.20 - 
 0.25 mm. Still not comparable to engraving, but an obvious harbinger of 
 things to come. If we think about how digital cameras and smart phones now 
 have amazing resolution, then most likely the resolution of these 3D 
 printers will be much better in a couple of years.
 
 Software is Repetier: www.repetier.com
 
 I have no idea how you enter specifications for an object. I found no 
 mention of CAD in my quick reading of material on the Repetier, so I guess 
 that they have some other way of doing it.
 
 I have no doubt that similar printers are offered in most countries, and one 
 would be a Christmas present!
 
 
 Cheers, John
 
 John Pickard
 john.pick...@bigpond.com
 
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