Re: Unicode characters for degrees, minutes, seconds above the decimal point.
This looks not logic. The unit symbol comes after the value and not in between. If you put the ° above the decimal . then what unit is the value after the decimal .? Everywhere the notation [value] [measuring unit] is used, even if the [value] has a fractional part. But an artist never really looks at rules and makes his own presentation. Thibaud At 14:25 6-7-2013, Steve Lelievre wrote: On 06/07/2013 8:38 AM, Barry Wainwright wrote: It can be done, but how the characters are rendered depends very much on the application used to render them. There are a block of unicode characters called Combining Diacritical Marks which are used to modify the preceding character. These characters include unicode character U-309A (UTF-8 E3 82 9A) which is a Combining Katakana-Hirangana Semi-voiced sound mark (but it looks very much like the degree symbol (U-00B0). When this character is 'typed' after a period, you get a character that is almost, but not quite, aligned: This is the unicode typed in as characters: 127. 42 Perhaps also consider the required symbol followed by Combining Dot Below U-0323 ( see http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/323/index.htmhttp://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/323/index.htm ) For example in MS Word a ring, prime and double prime, each followed by Combining Dot Below give [] Steve --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial inline: 2333ba90.png--- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
Re: Unicode characters for degrees, minutes, seconds above the decimal point.
I agree completely with Thibaud ! Best wishes Gianni Ferrari - 2013/7/7 Thibaud Taudin Chabot tcha...@dds.nl This looks not logic. The unit symbol comes *after *the value and not in between. If you put the ° above the decimal . then what unit is the value after the decimal .? Everywhere the notation [value] [measuring unit] is used, even if the [value] has a fractional part. But an artist never really looks at rules and makes his own presentation. Thibaud - Ing. Gianni Ferrari Lat.44;38,18.5N Long. 10;56,05.3E gfme...@gmail.com --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
Re: Unicode characters for degrees, minutes, seconds above the decimal point.
Hi, If you are working in Word, type the two characters one after the other. Then select to the first, go to FontCharacterSpacingCondensed and choose an amount (eg 12pt) to match the character size. There are other Unicode characters which effectively give a backspace(or zero character spacing) but MS's implementation of them in the various versions of Word are a bit doubtful. Another solution would be to generate the required symbol as an extra character in the font, though this means it's difficult to pass the file to other people unless you convert it to a pdf with the modified font embedded. Regards, John -- Dr J Davis Flowton Dials From: J M jgera...@gmail.com To: sundial@uni-koeln.de Sent: Saturday, 6 July 2013, 1:37 Subject: Unicode characters for degrees, minutes, seconds above the decimal point. My sundial software is also used for general astronomy calculations. When I print or display an ephemeris I would like to use not just the degree (°), prime (′) and double prime symbols () but those symbols above the decimal point (.) indicator. In other words, instead of 127.42° display 127°.42 but have (°) aligned directly above (.) as this is how it is typecast in old ephemerides. Anyone know how to do this for not just ° but also ' and ? I'm just looking for the (preferably unicode) characters not the technique for converting the numerical value to the string representation. -thanks PS - I found this web-site to have lots of good astronomy related unicode characters: Astronomical symbols http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_symbols PPS - I found this web-site http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/30754/field-calculate-degree-minute-second-in-different-format which displays a sample as 90°12'28.15 whereas I want 90°12'28.15 --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial--- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
Re: Unicode characters for degrees, minutes, seconds above the decimal point.
It can be done, but how the characters are rendered depends very much on the application used to render them.There are a block of unicode characters called "Combining Diacritical Marks" which are used to modify the preceding character. These characters include unicode character U-309A (UTF-8 E3 82 9A) which is a "Combining Katakana-Hirangana Semi-voiced sound mark" (but it looks very much like the degree symbol (U-00B0). When this character is 'typed' after a period, you get a character that is almost, but not quite, aligned:This is the unicode typed in as characters: 127.゚42Exactly how this character displays depends on the mail client/word processor/other application used to render it. Here (if the graphic is allowed) is how it renders in TextEdit: Hope this helps :)--BarryOn 6 Jul 2013, at 01:37, J M jgera...@gmail.com wrote:My sundial software is also used for general astronomy calculations.When I print or display an ephemeris I would like to use not justthe degree (°), prime (′) and double prime symbols (") but those symbolsabove the decimal point (.) indicator.In other words, instead of 127.42° display 127°.42 but have (°) aligneddirectly above (.) as this is how it is typecast in old ephemerides.Anyone know how to do this for not just ° but also ' and "?I'm just looking for the (preferably unicode) characters not thetechnique for converting the numerical value to the string representation.-thanksPS - I found this web-site to have lots of good astronomy relatedunicode characters: Astronomical symbols http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_symbolsPPS - I found this web-site http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/30754/field-calculate-degree-minute-second-in-different-format which displays a sample as 90°12'28.15" whereas I want 90°12'28".15---https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial---
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Re: Unicode characters for degrees, minutes, seconds above the decimal point.
Of course, the better way to do it would be to generate it as a vector graphic:
Characters.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
This is done in the following steps:In your graphics application of choice, type a text block "127°.42"Convert the text block to an outlineExplode the outline into discrete pathsmove the ".42" horizontally to align with the degree markRecombine all the elements into a compound pathThis will have the advantage that the characters will be correctly rendered wherever they can be displayed, but are not easily editable.--BarryOn 6 Jul 2013, at 12:38, Barry Wainwright bar...@mac.com wrote:It can be done, but how the characters are rendered depends very much on the application used to render them.There are a block of unicode characters called "Combining Diacritical Marks" which are used to modify the preceding character. These characters include unicode character U-309A (UTF-8 E3 82 9A) which is a "Combining Katakana-Hirangana Semi-voiced sound mark" (but it looks very much like the degree symbol (U-00B0). When this character is 'typed' after a period, you get a character that is almost, but not quite, aligned:This is the unicode typed in as characters: 127.゚42Exactly how this character displays depends on the mail client/word processor/other application used to render it. Here (if the graphic is allowed) is how it renders in TextEdit: Screen Shot 2013-07-06 at 12.36.08.pngHope this helps :)--BarryOn 6 Jul 2013, at 01:37, J M jgera...@gmail.com wrote:My sundial software is also used for general astronomy calculations.When I print or display an ephemeris I would like to use not justthe degree (°), prime (′) and double prime symbols (") but those symbolsabove the decimal point (.) indicator.In other words, instead of 127.42° display 127°.42 but have (°) aligneddirectly above (.) as this is how it is typecast in old ephemerides.Anyone know how to do this for not just ° but also ' and "?I'm just looking for the (preferably unicode) characters not thetechnique for converting the numerical value to the string representation.-thanksPS - I found this web-site to have lots of good astronomy relatedunicode characters: Astronomical symbols http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_symbolsPPS - I found this web-site http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/30754/field-calculate-degree-minute-second-in-different-format which displays a sample as 90°12'28.15" whereas I want 90°12'28".15---https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial---https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial---
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Re: Unicode characters for degrees, minutes, seconds above the decimal point.
On 06/07/2013 8:38 AM, Barry Wainwright wrote: It can be done, but how the characters are rendered depends very much on the application used to render them. There are a block of unicode characters called "Combining Diacritical Marks" which are used to modify the preceding character. These characters include unicode character U-309A (UTF-8 E3 82 9A) which is a "Combining Katakana-Hirangana Semi-voiced sound mark" (but it looks very much like the degree symbol (U-00B0). When this character is 'typed' after a period, you get a character that is almost, but not quite, aligned: This is the unicode typed in as characters: 127.42 Perhaps also consider the required symbol followed by "Combining Dot Below" U-0323 ( see http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/323/index.htm ) For example in MS Word a ring, prime and double prime, each followed by Combining Dot Below give Steve --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
