Re: [SunRay-Users] SRS 5.4 26D on Solaris 11.1

2013-05-17 Thread Blaster


Thanks for your suggestion, but I don't think Solaris 11 has a dtlogin 
service anymore.  I don't see one anyways...I tried your suggestion and 
it still didn't work.


Wish I could get these things up and running.

On 5/8/2013 2:55 AM, Stuart wrote:


Are your Solaris 11 servers headless??  I ran into the 26D problem on 
Sol 11 and doing this fixed it:


# touch /etc/dt/config/Xservers.SUNWut.prototype

https://blogs.oracle.com/ThinkThin/entry/headless_sun_ray_servers_osd

S.




On 06/05/2013 16:43, Blaster wrote:

On 5/3/2013 3:03 PM, Craig Bender wrote:
What OS is this?  Can you try disabling Mobile Sessions under system 
policy?


Just tried this, and did a cold restart...Even worse now, now I don't 
even get a login box.




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Re: [SunRay-Users] SRS 5.4 26D on Solaris 11.1

2013-05-08 Thread Stuart


Are your Solaris 11 servers headless??  I ran into the 26D problem on 
Sol 11 and doing this fixed it:


# touch /etc/dt/config/Xservers.SUNWut.prototype

https://blogs.oracle.com/ThinkThin/entry/headless_sun_ray_servers_osd

S.




On 06/05/2013 16:43, Blaster wrote:

On 5/3/2013 3:03 PM, Craig Bender wrote:
What OS is this?  Can you try disabling Mobile Sessions under system 
policy?


Just tried this, and did a cold restart...Even worse now, now I don't 
even get a login box.




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Re: [SunRay-Users] SRS 5.4 26D on Solaris 11.1

2013-05-06 Thread Blaster

On 5/3/2013 3:03 PM, Craig Bender wrote:
What OS is this?  Can you try disabling Mobile Sessions under system 
policy?


Just tried this, and did a cold restart...Even worse now, now I don't 
even get a login box.


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Re: [SunRay-Users] SRS 5.4 26D on Solaris 11.1

2013-05-03 Thread Craig Bender
What OS is this?  Can you try disabling Mobile Sessions under system policy?

On May 2, 2013, at 10:05 PM, Blaster blas...@556nato.com wrote:

 I found newer firmware, I'm running 4.3_146928-01_2011.06.03.14.41 now...
 
 Here's my log, I don't see anything odd...When I enter user/pass now, I get 
 the Oracle logo and the circle.  After a while I'll get a 24D ten the screen 
 just freezes.
 
 May  2 23:49:41 gremlin utauthd: [ID 747161 user.info] Worker7 NOTICE: 
 CONNECT IEEE802.080020fe24dd, pseudo.080020fe24dd, all connections allowed
 May  2 23:49:42 gremlin utauthd: [ID 118801 user.info] Worker7 NOTICE: MTU = 
 1500
 May  2 23:49:42 gremlin utauthd: [ID 979488 user.info] Worker7 NOTICE: 
 SessionManager.getSessionManager: Initiate callback to utsessiond at 
 localhost:7007
 May  2 23:49:42 gremlin utauthd: [ID 233143 user.info] Worker7 NOTICE: 
 SessionManager.initiateCallback localhost:7010 established communication
 May  2 23:49:42 gremlin utdtsession: [ID 702911 user.info] Add 
 (14,pseudo.080020fe24dd,special)
 May  2 23:49:42 gremlin utauthd: [ID 673696 user.info] Worker7 NOTICE: 
 SESSION_OK pseudo.080020fe24dd
 May  2 23:49:42 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] Setting xkb 
 dflts, xorg, sun_type6_usb, us
 May  2 23:49:42 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] 
 newtLoadKbdMap(): layout 0 - Success, sun_type6_usb, us
 May  2 23:49:42 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] Setting xkb 
 dflts, xorg, sun_type6_usb, us
 May  2 23:49:42 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] 
 newtLoadKbdMap(): layout 33 - Success, sun_type6_usb, us
 May  2 23:49:43 gremlin guloginGUI: [ID 634092 user.notice] Error opening 
 catalog nscloginGUI
 May  2 23:49:43 gremlin guloginGUI: [ID 693915 user.notice] Error opening PAM 
 message catalog: [libpam]
 May  2 23:49:43 gremlin last message repeated 1 time
 May  2 23:49:43 gremlin guloginGUI: [ID 693915 user.notice] Error opening PAM 
 message catalog: [pam_unix]
 May  2 23:49:43 gremlin last message repeated 1 time
 May  2 23:49:43 gremlin guloginGUI: [ID 693915 user.notice] Error opening PAM 
 message catalog: [pam_smartcard]
 May  2 23:49:43 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] Warning: Missing 
 charsets in String to FontSet conversion
 May  2 23:49:43 gremlin last message repeated 2 times
 May  2 23:49:43 gremlin guloginGUI: [ID 118685 user.info] 
 pam_sunray_amgh::[DPY=14] AMGH_SUMMARY: token=pseudo.080020fe24dd, 
 username=*NONE*, AMGH_Done?=NO(Local Session), Details=AMGH is not 
 configured., AMGH_Target=*NONE*
 May  2 23:50:18 gremlin guloginGUI: [ID 118685 user.info] 
 pam_sunray_amgh::[DPY=14] AMGH_SUMMARY: token=pseudo.080020fe24dd, 
 username=cbr, AMGH_Done?=NO(Local Session), Details=AMGH is not configured., 
 AMGH_Target=*NONE*
 May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] kill: 28707: no 
 such process
 May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] kill: 28708: no 
 such process
 May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utdtsession: [ID 702911 user.info] Delete 
 (14,pseudo.080020fe24dd)
 May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] 
 DeleteInputDeviceRequest(d83ac0)
 May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] 
 DeleteInputDeviceRequest(d83f00)
 May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] 
 DeleteInputDeviceRequest(dc8f10)
 May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] 
 DeleteInputDeviceRequest(dc9350)
 May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] 
 DeleteInputDeviceRequest(de8870)
 May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] 
 DeleteInputDeviceRequest(de8cb0)
 May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utauthd: [ID 794400 user.info] SessionManager0 
 NOTICE: EMPTY: ACTIVE session
 May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utauthd: [ID 935498 user.info] Terminator NOTICE: 
 DISCONNECT IEEE802.080020fe24dd, pseudo.080020fe24dd session terminated
 May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utauthd: [ID 226395 user.info] SessionManager0 
 NOTICE: TERMINATE: ACTIVE session
 May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utauthd: [ID 581857 user.info] Terminator NOTICE: 
 DESTROY pseudo.080020fe24dd lifetime=36648
 May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utauthd: [ID 331791 user.info] Worker7 NOTICE: 
 whichServer auth.cbr: 
 May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utauthd: [ID 232540 user.info] Worker7 NOTICE: 
 CLAIMED by StartxlationSession.m8 NAME: mobile.IEEE802-080020fe24dd 
 PARAMETERS: {savedType=auth, terminalIPA=172.16.2.106, type=mobile, 
 fw=4.3_146928-01_2011.06.03.14.41,Boot:1BST, 
 username=cbr, state=disconnected, cause=insert, doamgh=false, 
 barrierLevel=430, lockaction=disconnect, rawId=080020fe24dd, 
 terminalCID=IEEE802.080020fe24dd, MTU=1500, auth=false, tokenSeq=1, 
 firstServer=ac100201, namespace=IEEE802, keyTypes=dsa-sha1-x1,dsa-sha1, 
 ddcconfig=0, currentMod=3, 
 clientRand=yxB77auFeyvc.s6bUK2PO7Mece2KI.24WB.x2jFb5AW, 
 id=IEEE802-080020fe24dd, realIP=ac10026a, startRes=1024x768, quicklogin=true, 
 useReal=true, event=insert, sn=080020fe24dd, savedId=cbr, 

Re: [SunRay-Users] SRS 5.4 26D on Solaris 11.1

2013-05-03 Thread Craig Bender
Doh, sorry. S11. 

On May 3, 2013, at 1:03 PM, Craig Bender craig.ben...@oracle.com wrote:

 What OS is this?  Can you try disabling Mobile Sessions under system policy?
 
 On May 2, 2013, at 10:05 PM, Blaster blas...@556nato.com wrote:
 
 I found newer firmware, I'm running 4.3_146928-01_2011.06.03.14.41 now...
 
 Here's my log, I don't see anything odd...When I enter user/pass now, I get 
 the Oracle logo and the circle.  After a while I'll get a 24D ten the screen 
 just freezes.
 
 May  2 23:49:41 gremlin utauthd: [ID 747161 user.info] Worker7 NOTICE: 
 CONNECT IEEE802.080020fe24dd, pseudo.080020fe24dd, all connections allowed
 May  2 23:49:42 gremlin utauthd: [ID 118801 user.info] Worker7 NOTICE: MTU = 
 1500
 May  2 23:49:42 gremlin utauthd: [ID 979488 user.info] Worker7 NOTICE: 
 SessionManager.getSessionManager: Initiate callback to utsessiond at 
 localhost:7007
 May  2 23:49:42 gremlin utauthd: [ID 233143 user.info] Worker7 NOTICE: 
 SessionManager.initiateCallback localhost:7010 established communication
 May  2 23:49:42 gremlin utdtsession: [ID 702911 user.info] Add 
 (14,pseudo.080020fe24dd,special)
 May  2 23:49:42 gremlin utauthd: [ID 673696 user.info] Worker7 NOTICE: 
 SESSION_OK pseudo.080020fe24dd
 May  2 23:49:42 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] Setting xkb 
 dflts, xorg, sun_type6_usb, us
 May  2 23:49:42 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] 
 newtLoadKbdMap(): layout 0 - Success, sun_type6_usb, us
 May  2 23:49:42 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] Setting xkb 
 dflts, xorg, sun_type6_usb, us
 May  2 23:49:42 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] 
 newtLoadKbdMap(): layout 33 - Success, sun_type6_usb, us
 May  2 23:49:43 gremlin guloginGUI: [ID 634092 user.notice] Error opening 
 catalog nscloginGUI
 May  2 23:49:43 gremlin guloginGUI: [ID 693915 user.notice] Error opening 
 PAM message catalog: [libpam]
 May  2 23:49:43 gremlin last message repeated 1 time
 May  2 23:49:43 gremlin guloginGUI: [ID 693915 user.notice] Error opening 
 PAM message catalog: [pam_unix]
 May  2 23:49:43 gremlin last message repeated 1 time
 May  2 23:49:43 gremlin guloginGUI: [ID 693915 user.notice] Error opening 
 PAM message catalog: [pam_smartcard]
 May  2 23:49:43 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] Warning: 
 Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
 May  2 23:49:43 gremlin last message repeated 2 times
 May  2 23:49:43 gremlin guloginGUI: [ID 118685 user.info] 
 pam_sunray_amgh::[DPY=14] AMGH_SUMMARY: token=pseudo.080020fe24dd, 
 username=*NONE*, AMGH_Done?=NO(Local Session), Details=AMGH is not 
 configured., AMGH_Target=*NONE*
 May  2 23:50:18 gremlin guloginGUI: [ID 118685 user.info] 
 pam_sunray_amgh::[DPY=14] AMGH_SUMMARY: token=pseudo.080020fe24dd, 
 username=cbr, AMGH_Done?=NO(Local Session), Details=AMGH is not configured., 
 AMGH_Target=*NONE*
 May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] kill: 28707: no 
 such process
 May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] kill: 28708: no 
 such process
 May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utdtsession: [ID 702911 user.info] Delete 
 (14,pseudo.080020fe24dd)
 May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] 
 DeleteInputDeviceRequest(d83ac0)
 May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] 
 DeleteInputDeviceRequest(d83f00)
 May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] 
 DeleteInputDeviceRequest(dc8f10)
 May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] 
 DeleteInputDeviceRequest(dc9350)
 May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] 
 DeleteInputDeviceRequest(de8870)
 May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] 
 DeleteInputDeviceRequest(de8cb0)
 May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utauthd: [ID 794400 user.info] SessionManager0 
 NOTICE: EMPTY: ACTIVE session
 May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utauthd: [ID 935498 user.info] Terminator NOTICE: 
 DISCONNECT IEEE802.080020fe24dd, pseudo.080020fe24dd session terminated
 May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utauthd: [ID 226395 user.info] SessionManager0 
 NOTICE: TERMINATE: ACTIVE session
 May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utauthd: [ID 581857 user.info] Terminator NOTICE: 
 DESTROY pseudo.080020fe24dd lifetime=36648
 May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utauthd: [ID 331791 user.info] Worker7 NOTICE: 
 whichServer auth.cbr: 
 May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utauthd: [ID 232540 user.info] Worker7 NOTICE: 
 CLAIMED by StartxlationSession.m8 NAME: mobile.IEEE802-080020fe24dd 
 PARAMETERS: {savedType=auth, terminalIPA=172.16.2.106, type=mobile, 
 fw=4.3_146928-01_2011.06.03.14.41,Boot:1BST, 
 username=cbr, state=disconnected, cause=insert, doamgh=false, 
 barrierLevel=430, lockaction=disconnect, rawId=080020fe24dd, 
 terminalCID=IEEE802.080020fe24dd, MTU=1500, auth=false, tokenSeq=1, 
 firstServer=ac100201, namespace=IEEE802, keyTypes=dsa-sha1-x1,dsa-sha1, 
 ddcconfig=0, currentMod=3, 
 clientRand=yxB77auFeyvc.s6bUK2PO7Mece2KI.24WB.x2jFb5AW, 
 id=IEEE802-080020fe24dd, realIP=ac10026a, 

Re: [SunRay-Users] SRS 5.4 26D on Solaris 11.1

2013-05-02 Thread Kent Peacock
What firmware is running on the 150s?

Kent

Sent from my iPad

On May 1, 2013, at 22:32, Blaster blas...@556nato.com wrote:

 hello,
 
 I'm running Sun Ray Software 5.4.0.0.44 Sun Ray Operating Software 
 11.1.1.0.06 on Solaris X64 11.1 using SunRay 150 terminals.
 
 Are these terminals still usable?  I see there is no longer any firmware for 
 them in the 11.1.1.0.06 software.
 
 My problem is, the 150 boots up, I get a login window.  I enter a userid then 
 a password, then I just get an hour glass with a 26D error box that never 
 goes away.
 
 What am I missing?
 
 Thanks.
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Re: [SunRay-Users] SRS 5.4 26D on Solaris 11.1

2013-05-02 Thread Blaster

hello,

CoronaP3
4_2_77_2009.10.19.17.01

2009?  Guessing pretty old :)  How come SRS5.0 or the Operating system 
11.1 doesn't seem to have the latest available firmware? Or are these no 
longer supported?


I will dig around and see if I can find something newer...



On 5/2/2013 1:41 AM, Kent Peacock wrote:

What firmware is running on the 150s?

Kent

Sent from my iPad

On May 1, 2013, at 22:32, Blaster blas...@556nato.com 
mailto:blas...@556nato.com wrote:



hello,

I'm running Sun Ray Software 5.4.0.0.44 Sun Ray Operating Software 
11.1.1.0.06 on Solaris X64 11.1 using SunRay 150 terminals.


Are these terminals still usable?  I see there is no longer any 
firmware for them in the 11.1.1.0.06 software.


My problem is, the 150 boots up, I get a login window.  I enter a 
userid then a password, then I just get an hour glass with a 26D 
error box that never goes away.


What am I missing?

Thanks.
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Re: [SunRay-Users] SRS 5.4 26D on Solaris 11.1

2013-05-02 Thread Kent Peacock

On 05/01/13 22:32, Blaster wrote:

My problem is, the 150 boots up, I get a login window. I enter a userid
then a password, then I just get an hour glass with a 26D error box that
never goes away.

What am I missing?


Another thing I'd look at is the contents of 
/var/opt/SUNWut/log/messages to see if there's some reason that the 
session doesn't correctly start up. Do you use other Sun Ray models? Do 
they work?


Kent
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Re: [SunRay-Users] SRS 5.4 26D on Solaris 11.1

2013-05-02 Thread Blaster

I found newer firmware, I'm running 4.3_146928-01_2011.06.03.14.41 now...

Here's my log, I don't see anything odd...When I enter user/pass now, I 
get the Oracle logo and the circle.  After a while I'll get a 24D ten 
the screen just freezes.


May  2 23:49:41 gremlin utauthd: [ID 747161 user.info] Worker7 NOTICE: 
CONNECT IEEE802.080020fe24dd, pseudo.080020fe24dd, all connections allowed
May  2 23:49:42 gremlin utauthd: [ID 118801 user.info] Worker7 NOTICE: 
MTU = 1500
May  2 23:49:42 gremlin utauthd: [ID 979488 user.info] Worker7 NOTICE: 
SessionManager.getSessionManager: Initiate callback to utsessiond at 
localhost:7007
May  2 23:49:42 gremlin utauthd: [ID 233143 user.info] Worker7 NOTICE: 
SessionManager.initiateCallback localhost:7010 established communication
May  2 23:49:42 gremlin utdtsession: [ID 702911 user.info] Add 
(14,pseudo.080020fe24dd,special)
May  2 23:49:42 gremlin utauthd: [ID 673696 user.info] Worker7 NOTICE: 
SESSION_OK pseudo.080020fe24dd
May  2 23:49:42 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] Setting xkb 
dflts, xorg, sun_type6_usb, us
May  2 23:49:42 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] 
newtLoadKbdMap(): layout 0 - Success, sun_type6_usb, us
May  2 23:49:42 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] Setting xkb 
dflts, xorg, sun_type6_usb, us
May  2 23:49:42 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] 
newtLoadKbdMap(): layout 33 - Success, sun_type6_usb, us
May  2 23:49:43 gremlin guloginGUI: [ID 634092 user.notice] Error 
opening catalog nscloginGUI
May  2 23:49:43 gremlin guloginGUI: [ID 693915 user.notice] Error 
opening PAM message catalog: [libpam]

May  2 23:49:43 gremlin last message repeated 1 time
May  2 23:49:43 gremlin guloginGUI: [ID 693915 user.notice] Error 
opening PAM message catalog: [pam_unix]

May  2 23:49:43 gremlin last message repeated 1 time
May  2 23:49:43 gremlin guloginGUI: [ID 693915 user.notice] Error 
opening PAM message catalog: [pam_smartcard]
May  2 23:49:43 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] Warning: 
Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion

May  2 23:49:43 gremlin last message repeated 2 times
May  2 23:49:43 gremlin guloginGUI: [ID 118685 user.info] 
pam_sunray_amgh::[DPY=14] AMGH_SUMMARY: token=pseudo.080020fe24dd, 
username=*NONE*, AMGH_Done?=NO(Local Session), Details=AMGH is not 
configured., AMGH_Target=*NONE*
May  2 23:50:18 gremlin guloginGUI: [ID 118685 user.info] 
pam_sunray_amgh::[DPY=14] AMGH_SUMMARY: token=pseudo.080020fe24dd, 
username=cbr, AMGH_Done?=NO(Local Session), Details=AMGH is not 
configured., AMGH_Target=*NONE*
May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] kill: 
28707: no such process
May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] kill: 
28708: no such process
May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utdtsession: [ID 702911 user.info] Delete 
(14,pseudo.080020fe24dd)
May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] 
DeleteInputDeviceRequest(d83ac0)
May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] 
DeleteInputDeviceRequest(d83f00)
May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] 
DeleteInputDeviceRequest(dc8f10)
May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] 
DeleteInputDeviceRequest(dc9350)
May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] 
DeleteInputDeviceRequest(de8870)
May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] 
DeleteInputDeviceRequest(de8cb0)
May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utauthd: [ID 794400 user.info] SessionManager0 
NOTICE: EMPTY: ACTIVE session
May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utauthd: [ID 935498 user.info] Terminator 
NOTICE: DISCONNECT IEEE802.080020fe24dd, pseudo.080020fe24dd session 
terminated
May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utauthd: [ID 226395 user.info] SessionManager0 
NOTICE: TERMINATE: ACTIVE session
May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utauthd: [ID 581857 user.info] Terminator 
NOTICE: DESTROY pseudo.080020fe24dd lifetime=36648
May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utauthd: [ID 331791 user.info] Worker7 NOTICE: 
whichServer auth.cbr:
May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utauthd: [ID 232540 user.info] Worker7 NOTICE: 
CLAIMED by StartxlationSession.m8 NAME: mobile.IEEE802-080020fe24dd 
PARAMETERS: {savedType=auth, terminalIPA=172.16.2.106, type=mobile, 
fw=4.3_146928-01_2011.06.03.14.41,Boot:1BST, 
username=cbr, state=disconnected, cause=insert, doamgh=false, 
barrierLevel=430, lockaction=disconnect, rawId=080020fe24dd, 
terminalCID=IEEE802.080020fe24dd, MTU=1500, auth=false, tokenSeq=1, 
firstServer=ac100201, namespace=IEEE802, keyTypes=dsa-sha1-x1,dsa-sha1, 
ddcconfig=0, currentMod=3, 
clientRand=yxB77auFeyvc.s6bUK2PO7Mece2KI.24WB.x2jFb5AW, 
id=IEEE802-080020fe24dd, realIP=ac10026a, startRes=1024x768, 
quicklogin=true, useReal=true, event=insert, sn=080020fe24dd, 
savedId=cbr, rawType=pseudo, clientKeyStatus=unconfirmed, hw=SunRayP3, 
initState=1, _=1}
May  2 23:50:18 gremlin utauthd: [ID 526354 user.info] Worker7 NOTICE: 
CONNECT IEEE802.080020fe24dd, mobile.IEEE802-080020fe24dd, all 
connections allowed
May