[pfSense Support] Running multiple routed subnets on LAN interface

2005-08-25 Thread Ted Crow
I am (still) running pfSense 70.4 and I am in the process of adding a
routed subnet to my LAN. 

I don't have any trouble seeing the remote LAN from my core LAN, nor any
trouble seeing the core LAN from the remote LAN.  But, my remote LAN
gets no responses from devices on any other interface on the firewall.

The routing appears to be correct as far as I can tell using
traceroute/ping.  I can ping machines on the remote LAN from the
firewall, and the firewall from the remote network.  The firewall
appears to be black-holing the remote LAN traffic.

-- From REMOTE LAN --
Tracing the route to xx.xx.xx.xx (public)

  1 1 ms1 ms1 ms172.16.11.1 --- New Remote (172.16.11/24)
  2 4 ms4 ms4 ms172.16.0.2  --- Internal Router
(172.16.0/23)
  3 5 ms5 ms5 ms172.16.0.1  --- pfSense Firewall
(172.16.0/23)
  4  *   *   *  --- should be Gateway Router
(public)
  5  *   *   *  --- should be ISP Router
(public)
  ...   --- on to oblivion

I do have a LAN rule explicitly allowing the remote subnet to have full
access to any^3.

Any ideas?  Or do I just need to get the latest version of pfSense on
the box?

Ted Crow
MCP/W2K
Information Technology Manager
Tuttle Services, Inc.
(419) 228-6262 x 247 


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RE: [pfSense Support] Running multiple routed subnets on LAN interface

2005-08-25 Thread Fleming, John \(ZeroChaos\)
Its hard to say without some kind of diagram and ip listing.

-Original Message-
From: Ted Crow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 2:11 PM
To: support@pfsense.com
Subject: [pfSense Support] Running multiple routed subnets on LAN
interface

I am (still) running pfSense 70.4 and I am in the process of adding a
routed subnet to my LAN. 

I don't have any trouble seeing the remote LAN from my core LAN, nor any
trouble seeing the core LAN from the remote LAN.  But, my remote LAN
gets no responses from devices on any other interface on the firewall.

The routing appears to be correct as far as I can tell using
traceroute/ping.  I can ping machines on the remote LAN from the
firewall, and the firewall from the remote network.  The firewall
appears to be black-holing the remote LAN traffic.

-- From REMOTE LAN --
Tracing the route to xx.xx.xx.xx (public)

  1 1 ms1 ms1 ms172.16.11.1 --- New Remote (172.16.11/24)
  2 4 ms4 ms4 ms172.16.0.2  --- Internal Router
(172.16.0/23)
  3 5 ms5 ms5 ms172.16.0.1  --- pfSense Firewall
(172.16.0/23)
  4  *   *   *  --- should be Gateway Router
(public)
  5  *   *   *  --- should be ISP Router
(public)
  ...   --- on to oblivion

I do have a LAN rule explicitly allowing the remote subnet to have full
access to any^3.

Any ideas?  Or do I just need to get the latest version of pfSense on
the box?

Ted Crow
MCP/W2K
Information Technology Manager
Tuttle Services, Inc.
(419) 228-6262 x 247 


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Re: [pfSense Support] Running multiple routed subnets on LAN interface

2005-08-25 Thread Bill Marquette
iy yi yi...I can't ever begin to remember what bugs lurked back that
far.  Any chance you can upgrade to current?  We're fixing stuff left
and right, I'm not going to go back through the last three months
changelogs to see if we've already fixed whatever might be affecting
you (if anything).  If it's still affecting you on something recent
(preferably .80 at a minimum) we can take a look.

--Bill

PS. I agree with John, we need a network diagram.  If you don't have
Visio, please use Dia (http://www.gnome.org/projects/dia/)

On 8/25/05, Ted Crow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am (still) running pfSense 70.4 and I am in the process of adding a
 routed subnet to my LAN.
 
 I don't have any trouble seeing the remote LAN from my core LAN, nor any
 trouble seeing the core LAN from the remote LAN.  But, my remote LAN
 gets no responses from devices on any other interface on the firewall.
 
 The routing appears to be correct as far as I can tell using
 traceroute/ping.  I can ping machines on the remote LAN from the
 firewall, and the firewall from the remote network.  The firewall
 appears to be black-holing the remote LAN traffic.
 
 -- From REMOTE LAN --
 Tracing the route to xx.xx.xx.xx (public)
 
   1 1 ms1 ms1 ms172.16.11.1 --- New Remote (172.16.11/24)
   2 4 ms4 ms4 ms172.16.0.2  --- Internal Router
 (172.16.0/23)
   3 5 ms5 ms5 ms172.16.0.1  --- pfSense Firewall
 (172.16.0/23)
   4  *   *   *  --- should be Gateway Router
 (public)
   5  *   *   *  --- should be ISP Router
 (public)
   ...   --- on to oblivion
 
 I do have a LAN rule explicitly allowing the remote subnet to have full
 access to any^3.
 
 Any ideas?  Or do I just need to get the latest version of pfSense on
 the box?
 
 Ted Crow
 MCP/W2K
 Information Technology Manager
 Tuttle Services, Inc.
 (419) 228-6262 x 247
 
 
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RE: [pfSense Support] Running multiple routed subnets on LAN interface

2005-08-25 Thread Ted Crow
I'll try to bump up to the latest version tonight and see what happens.
Hopefully no crash this time...

Anyway, here is a rough diagram, if you *really* want a Visio drawing I
can do that too:



+-+
| Internet Router |
|  Public Block   |
+-+
 ^
 |
 v -WAN
+--+   
| pfSense Firewall |--- OPT1 (172.16.2.1/24)
|172.16.0.1|--- OPT2 (Public, Bridged with WAN)
|  |--- OPT3 (172.16.3.1/24)
|  |--- OPT4 (172.16.4.1/24)
+--+
 ^ -LAN
 |
 v
  +---+ +---+++  
  |  Core Switch  |-|   core-side   |-[T1]-|  remote-side   |
  | 172.16.0.x/23 | | 172.16.0.2/23 || 172.16.11.1/24 |
  +---+ +---+++
   | | | | |  |
++   ++
|Core Network|   |   Remote Network   |
|   172.16.0.x /23   |   |   172.16.11.x/24   |
++   ++



The firewall has the static route: Interface: LAN, NW:172.16.11.0/24,
GW:172.16.0.2
There is a pass rule on LAN: 172.16.11.0/24 - any 

Core gateway of last resort is 172.16.0.1
Remote gateway of last resort is 172.16.0.1 (Also tried 172.16.0.2)
The Serial (T1) interface of each router is unnumbered to Ethernet.
All routers are running IOS 12.3+

Core network default gateway: 172.16.0.1
Remote network default gateway: 172.16.11.1 

Ted Crow
MCP/W2K
Information Technology Manager
Tuttle Services, Inc.
(419) 228-6262 x 247
-Original Message-
From: Bill Marquette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 4:06 PM
To: Ted Crow
Cc: support@pfsense.com
Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Running multiple routed subnets on LAN
interface

iy yi yi...I can't ever begin to remember what bugs lurked back that
far.  Any chance you can upgrade to current?  We're fixing stuff left
and right, I'm not going to go back through the last three months
changelogs to see if we've already fixed whatever might be affecting you
(if anything).  If it's still affecting you on something recent
(preferably .80 at a minimum) we can take a look.

--Bill

PS. I agree with John, we need a network diagram.  If you don't have
Visio, please use Dia (http://www.gnome.org/projects/dia/)

On 8/25/05, Ted Crow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am (still) running pfSense 70.4 and I am in the process of adding a 
 routed subnet to my LAN.
 
 I don't have any trouble seeing the remote LAN from my core LAN, nor 
 any trouble seeing the core LAN from the remote LAN.  But, my remote 
 LAN gets no responses from devices on any other interface on the
firewall.
 
 The routing appears to be correct as far as I can tell using 
 traceroute/ping.  I can ping machines on the remote LAN from the 
 firewall, and the firewall from the remote network.  The firewall 
 appears to be black-holing the remote LAN traffic.
 
 -- From REMOTE LAN --
 Tracing the route to xx.xx.xx.xx (public)
 
   1 1 ms1 ms1 ms172.16.11.1 --- New Remote (172.16.11/24)
   2 4 ms4 ms4 ms172.16.0.2  --- Internal Router
 (172.16.0/23)
   3 5 ms5 ms5 ms172.16.0.1  --- pfSense Firewall
 (172.16.0/23)
   4  *   *   *  --- should be Gateway Router
 (public)
   5  *   *   *  --- should be ISP Router
 (public)
   ...   --- on to oblivion
 
 I do have a LAN rule explicitly allowing the remote subnet to have 
 full access to any^3.
 
 Any ideas?  Or do I just need to get the latest version of pfSense on 
 the box?
 
 Ted Crow
 MCP/W2K
 Information Technology Manager
 Tuttle Services, Inc.
 (419) 228-6262 x 247
 
 
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RE: [pfSense Support] Running multiple routed subnets on LAN interface

2005-08-25 Thread Fleming, John \(ZeroChaos\)
We don't need no stinking visio!

-Original Message-
From: Ted Crow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 3:28 PM
To: Bill Marquette
Cc: support@pfsense.com
Subject: RE: [pfSense Support] Running multiple routed subnets on LAN
interface

I'll try to bump up to the latest version tonight and see what happens.
Hopefully no crash this time...

Anyway, here is a rough diagram, if you *really* want a Visio drawing I
can do that too:



+-+
| Internet Router |
|  Public Block   |
+-+
 ^
 |
 v -WAN
+--+   
| pfSense Firewall |--- OPT1 (172.16.2.1/24)
|172.16.0.1|--- OPT2 (Public, Bridged with WAN)
|  |--- OPT3 (172.16.3.1/24)
|  |--- OPT4 (172.16.4.1/24)
+--+
 ^ -LAN
 |
 v
  +---+ +---+++  
  |  Core Switch  |-|   core-side   |-[T1]-|  remote-side   |
  | 172.16.0.x/23 | | 172.16.0.2/23 || 172.16.11.1/24 |
  +---+ +---+++
   | | | | |  |
++   ++
|Core Network|   |   Remote Network   |
|   172.16.0.x /23   |   |   172.16.11.x/24   |
++   ++



The firewall has the static route: Interface: LAN, NW:172.16.11.0/24,
GW:172.16.0.2
There is a pass rule on LAN: 172.16.11.0/24 - any 

Core gateway of last resort is 172.16.0.1
Remote gateway of last resort is 172.16.0.1 (Also tried 172.16.0.2)
The Serial (T1) interface of each router is unnumbered to Ethernet.
All routers are running IOS 12.3+

Core network default gateway: 172.16.0.1
Remote network default gateway: 172.16.11.1 

Ted Crow
MCP/W2K
Information Technology Manager
Tuttle Services, Inc.
(419) 228-6262 x 247
-Original Message-
From: Bill Marquette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 4:06 PM
To: Ted Crow
Cc: support@pfsense.com
Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Running multiple routed subnets on LAN
interface

iy yi yi...I can't ever begin to remember what bugs lurked back that
far.  Any chance you can upgrade to current?  We're fixing stuff left
and right, I'm not going to go back through the last three months
changelogs to see if we've already fixed whatever might be affecting you
(if anything).  If it's still affecting you on something recent
(preferably .80 at a minimum) we can take a look.

--Bill

PS. I agree with John, we need a network diagram.  If you don't have
Visio, please use Dia (http://www.gnome.org/projects/dia/)

On 8/25/05, Ted Crow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am (still) running pfSense 70.4 and I am in the process of adding a 
 routed subnet to my LAN.
 
 I don't have any trouble seeing the remote LAN from my core LAN, nor 
 any trouble seeing the core LAN from the remote LAN.  But, my remote 
 LAN gets no responses from devices on any other interface on the
firewall.
 
 The routing appears to be correct as far as I can tell using 
 traceroute/ping.  I can ping machines on the remote LAN from the 
 firewall, and the firewall from the remote network.  The firewall 
 appears to be black-holing the remote LAN traffic.
 
 -- From REMOTE LAN --
 Tracing the route to xx.xx.xx.xx (public)
 
   1 1 ms1 ms1 ms172.16.11.1 --- New Remote (172.16.11/24)
   2 4 ms4 ms4 ms172.16.0.2  --- Internal Router
 (172.16.0/23)
   3 5 ms5 ms5 ms172.16.0.1  --- pfSense Firewall
 (172.16.0/23)
   4  *   *   *  --- should be Gateway Router
 (public)
   5  *   *   *  --- should be ISP Router
 (public)
   ...   --- on to oblivion
 
 I do have a LAN rule explicitly allowing the remote subnet to have 
 full access to any^3.
 
 Any ideas?  Or do I just need to get the latest version of pfSense on 
 the box?
 
 Ted Crow
 MCP/W2K
 Information Technology Manager
 Tuttle Services, Inc.
 (419) 228-6262 x 247
 
 
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RE: [pfSense Support] Running multiple routed subnets on LAN interface

2005-08-25 Thread Fleming, John \(ZeroChaos\)
My guess is 172.16.11.x isn't being nated through the firewall. Tcpdump
on WAN interface should reveal if its even getting out and if so what
address is it being sourced with. Not sure what could be going on with
OPT1, OPT3 and OPT4. could you send the output of netstat -rn also?
(route table)


Tcpdump -ni $wanif 'host $inter-router'

Assuming that is what you are trace routing to.

-Original Message-
From: Ted Crow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 3:28 PM
To: Bill Marquette
Cc: support@pfsense.com
Subject: RE: [pfSense Support] Running multiple routed subnets on LAN
interface

I'll try to bump up to the latest version tonight and see what happens.
Hopefully no crash this time...

Anyway, here is a rough diagram, if you *really* want a Visio drawing I
can do that too:



+-+
| Internet Router |
|  Public Block   |
+-+
 ^
 |
 v -WAN
+--+   
| pfSense Firewall |--- OPT1 (172.16.2.1/24)
|172.16.0.1|--- OPT2 (Public, Bridged with WAN)
|  |--- OPT3 (172.16.3.1/24)
|  |--- OPT4 (172.16.4.1/24)
+--+
 ^ -LAN
 |
 v
  +---+ +---+++  
  |  Core Switch  |-|   core-side   |-[T1]-|  remote-side   |
  | 172.16.0.x/23 | | 172.16.0.2/23 || 172.16.11.1/24 |
  +---+ +---+++
   | | | | |  |
++   ++
|Core Network|   |   Remote Network   |
|   172.16.0.x /23   |   |   172.16.11.x/24   |
++   ++



The firewall has the static route: Interface: LAN, NW:172.16.11.0/24,
GW:172.16.0.2
There is a pass rule on LAN: 172.16.11.0/24 - any 

Core gateway of last resort is 172.16.0.1
Remote gateway of last resort is 172.16.0.1 (Also tried 172.16.0.2)
The Serial (T1) interface of each router is unnumbered to Ethernet.
All routers are running IOS 12.3+

Core network default gateway: 172.16.0.1
Remote network default gateway: 172.16.11.1 

Ted Crow
MCP/W2K
Information Technology Manager
Tuttle Services, Inc.
(419) 228-6262 x 247
-Original Message-
From: Bill Marquette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 4:06 PM
To: Ted Crow
Cc: support@pfsense.com
Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Running multiple routed subnets on LAN
interface

iy yi yi...I can't ever begin to remember what bugs lurked back that
far.  Any chance you can upgrade to current?  We're fixing stuff left
and right, I'm not going to go back through the last three months
changelogs to see if we've already fixed whatever might be affecting you
(if anything).  If it's still affecting you on something recent
(preferably .80 at a minimum) we can take a look.

--Bill

PS. I agree with John, we need a network diagram.  If you don't have
Visio, please use Dia (http://www.gnome.org/projects/dia/)

On 8/25/05, Ted Crow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am (still) running pfSense 70.4 and I am in the process of adding a 
 routed subnet to my LAN.
 
 I don't have any trouble seeing the remote LAN from my core LAN, nor 
 any trouble seeing the core LAN from the remote LAN.  But, my remote 
 LAN gets no responses from devices on any other interface on the
firewall.
 
 The routing appears to be correct as far as I can tell using 
 traceroute/ping.  I can ping machines on the remote LAN from the 
 firewall, and the firewall from the remote network.  The firewall 
 appears to be black-holing the remote LAN traffic.
 
 -- From REMOTE LAN --
 Tracing the route to xx.xx.xx.xx (public)
 
   1 1 ms1 ms1 ms172.16.11.1 --- New Remote (172.16.11/24)
   2 4 ms4 ms4 ms172.16.0.2  --- Internal Router
 (172.16.0/23)
   3 5 ms5 ms5 ms172.16.0.1  --- pfSense Firewall
 (172.16.0/23)
   4  *   *   *  --- should be Gateway Router
 (public)
   5  *   *   *  --- should be ISP Router
 (public)
   ...   --- on to oblivion
 
 I do have a LAN rule explicitly allowing the remote subnet to have 
 full access to any^3.
 
 Any ideas?  Or do I just need to get the latest version of pfSense on 
 the box?
 
 Ted Crow
 MCP/W2K
 Information Technology Manager
 Tuttle Services, Inc.
 (419) 228-6262 x 247
 
 
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