Re: [Elphel-support] hard drive/Disk Recorder issues
--- On Fri, 10/6/11, Andrey Filippov support-list@support.elphel.com wrote: From: Andrey Filippov support-list@support.elphel.com Subject: Re: [Elphel-support] hard drive/Disk Recorder issues To: Tom Sparks tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au, support-list@support.elphel.com Received: Friday, 10 June, 2011, 1:17 AM On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 4:08 AM, Tom Sparks tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au wrote: I am have hard drive/disk Recorder issues the Disk recorder gui sometimes mounts the hard drive but by the time I can do something (record/view/download videos) the network disconnects Tom, can you please be more specific - what does that mean network disconnects ? Is it something related to the camera, computer or some router/switch? the computer is connected directly to the camera the computer report the network has been disconnected and then reconnected I try refreshing the page, and I get can not connect to 192.168.0.9 Refreshing the control page while it is running might have some side effects. I forced to disable my ethernet connection and re-enabling it I then refresh the page and the issue starts again :( What do you mean by disable my ethernet connection and re-enabling it -is it in the camera or on your computer? on the computer What actions/command do you run? Can you provide additional information about your network configuration? the computer has two networks camera to computer (computer: 192.168.015 camera 192.168.0.9) WIFI network (10.0.0.X) Andrey if a screencast can explain it better I can do one? -- tom_a_sparks It's a nerdy thing I like to do Please use ISO approved file formats excluding Office Open XML - http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html 3 x (x)Ubuntu 10.04, Amiga A1200 WB 3.1, UAE AF 2006 WB 3.X, Sam440 AOS 4.1 ___ Support-list mailing list Support-list@support.elphel.com http://support.elphel.com/mailman/listinfo/support-list_support.elphel.com ___ Support-list mailing list Support-list@support.elphel.com http://support.elphel.com/mailman/listinfo/support-list_support.elphel.com
Re: [Elphel-support] hard drive/Disk Recorder issues
--- On Sat, 11/6/11, Oleg support-list@support.elphel.com wrote: Tom, The only case when your laptop ( ubuntu 10.04?) can lose wired connection is when there's no link - the amber led should go off/on and that should cause the camera to reboot. And the camera won't reboot, right? the camera is rebooting... it just happens when you least excepted to... Please, try the following: 1) Check how the amber led behaves when the pc loses its ip address. the computer dose not have the amber or green ethernet lights on the camera the light amber led dose go off then on again 2a) Disable wi-fi - in case your OS can't handle 2 networks at the same time. i'll have to looking into that or 2b) Make it so the pc won't lose its ip address when something is plugged/unplugged - it's not trivial (if not impossible) in (k)ubuntu's network manager =) or 2c) Change the camera's IP to 10.0.0.xxx (192.168.0.9 - System Preferences) and plug it to your wi-fi router - that would be the most effective solution of the problem. my router has an option to have group of DHCP Pools, I tried to enable a 192.168.0.X network for the camera, but gave up I do have another router siting around.. (thinking) Best regards, Oleg Dzhimiev On 10 June 2011 01:19, Tom Sparks tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au wrote: --- On Fri, 10/6/11, Andrey Filippov support-list@support.elphel.com wrote: From: Andrey Filippov support-list@support.elphel.com Subject: Re: [Elphel-support] hard drive/Disk Recorder issues To: Tom Sparks tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au, support-list@support.elphel.com Received: Friday, 10 June, 2011, 1:17 AM On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 4:08 AM, Tom Sparks tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au wrote: I am have hard drive/disk Recorder issues the Disk recorder gui sometimes mounts the hard drive but by the time I can do something (record/view/download videos) the network disconnects Tom, can you please be more specific - what does that mean network disconnects ? Is it something related to the camera, computer or some router/switch? the computer is connected directly to the camera the computer report the network has been disconnected and then reconnected I try refreshing the page, and I get can not connect to 192.168.0.9 Refreshing the control page while it is running might have some side effects. I forced to disable my ethernet connection and re-enabling it I then refresh the page and the issue starts again :( What do you mean by disable my ethernet connection and re-enabling it -is it in the camera or on your computer? on the computer What actions/command do you run? Can you provide additional information about your network configuration? the computer has two networks camera to computer (computer: 192.168.015 camera 192.168.0.9) WIFI network (10.0.0.X) Andrey if a screencast can explain it better I can do one? -- tom_a_sparks It's a nerdy thing I like to do Please use ISO approved file formats excluding Office Open XML - http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html 3 x (x)Ubuntu 10.04, Amiga A1200 WB 3.1, UAE AF 2006 WB 3.X, Sam440 AOS 4.1 ___ Support-list mailing list Support-list@support.elphel.com http://support.elphel.com/mailman/listinfo/support-list_support.elphel.com ___ Support-list mailing list Support-list@support.elphel.com http://support.elphel.com/mailman/listinfo/support-list_support.elphel.com ___ Support-list mailing list Support-list@support.elphel.com http://support.elphel.com/mailman/listinfo/support-list_support.elphel.com
Re: [Elphel-support] hard drive/Disk Recorder issues
Tom, The only case when your laptop ( ubuntu 10.04?) can lose wired connection is when there's no link - the amber led should go off/on and that should cause the camera to reboot. And the camera won't reboot, right? Please, try the following: 1) Check how the amber led behaves when the pc loses its ip address. 2a) Disable wi-fi - in case your OS can't handle 2 networks at the same time. or 2b) Make it so the pc won't lose its ip address when something is plugged/unplugged - it's not trivial (if not impossible) in (k)ubuntu's network manager =) or 2c) Change the camera's IP to 10.0.0.xxx (192.168.0.9 - System Preferences) and plug it to your wi-fi router - that would be the most effective solution of the problem. Best regards, Oleg Dzhimiev On 10 June 2011 01:19, Tom Sparks tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au wrote: --- On *Fri, 10/6/11, Andrey Filippov support-list@support.elphel.com*wrote: From: Andrey Filippov support-list@support.elphel.com Subject: Re: [Elphel-support] hard drive/Disk Recorder issues To: Tom Sparks tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au, support-list@support.elphel.com Received: Friday, 10 June, 2011, 1:17 AM On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 4:08 AM, Tom Sparks tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.auhttp://mc/compose?to=tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au wrote: I am have hard drive/disk Recorder issues the Disk recorder gui sometimes mounts the hard drive but by the time I can do something (record/view/download videos) the network disconnects Tom, can you please be more specific - what does that mean network disconnects ? Is it something related to the camera, computer or some router/switch? the computer is connected directly to the camera the computer report the network has been disconnected and then reconnected I try refreshing the page, and I get can not connect to 192.168.0.9 Refreshing the control page while it is running might have some side effects. I forced to disable my ethernet connection and re-enabling it I then refresh the page and the issue starts again :( What do you mean by disable my ethernet connection and re-enabling it -is it in the camera or on your computer? on the computer What actions/command do you run? Can you provide additional information about your network configuration? the computer has two networks camera to computer (computer: 192.168.015 camera 192.168.0.9) WIFI network (10.0.0.X) Andrey if a screencast can explain it better I can do one? -- tom_a_sparks It's a nerdy thing I like to do Please use ISO approved file formats excluding Office Open XML - http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html 3 x (x)Ubuntu 10.04, Amiga A1200 WB 3.1, UAE AF 2006 WB 3.X, Sam440 AOS 4.1 ___ Support-list mailing list Support-list@support.elphel.comhttp://mc/compose?to=Support-list@support.elphel.com http://support.elphel.com/mailman/listinfo/support-list_support.elphel.com ___ Support-list mailing list Support-list@support.elphel.com http://support.elphel.com/mailman/listinfo/support-list_support.elphel.com ___ Support-list mailing list Support-list@support.elphel.com http://support.elphel.com/mailman/listinfo/support-list_support.elphel.com
Re: [Elphel-support] hard drive/Disk Recorder issues
Tom, If the camera _is_rebooting that may mean that the power supply is insufficient. Internally in the 12V version we use 9-36V DC-DC converter, but as the camera has input diode bridge, the DC-DC converter gets less, than the full input voltage. So the margin is not that large, and when the hard drive starts spinning, it can cause the short voltage drop and the DC-DC fails to provide internal 3.3V. Your camera has additional boards (10359, 10338) that causes more power consumption than a regular 12V camera with HDD, and while we tested it working we did not verify the margin. What power source are you using? Can you try it with higher voltage (it can go up to 36V) to verify the problem? Andrey On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Tom Sparks tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.auwrote: --- On *Sat, 11/6/11, Oleg support-list@support.elphel.com* wrote: Tom, The only case when your laptop ( ubuntu 10.04?) can lose wired connection is when there's no link - the amber led should go off/on and that should cause the camera to reboot. And the camera won't reboot, right? the camera is rebooting... it just happens when you least excepted to... Please, try the following: 1) Check how the amber led behaves when the pc loses its ip address. the computer dose not have the amber or green ethernet lights on the camera the light amber led dose go off then on again 2a) Disable wi-fi - in case your OS can't handle 2 networks at the same time. i'll have to looking into that or 2b) Make it so the pc won't lose its ip address when something is plugged/unplugged - it's not trivial (if not impossible) in (k)ubuntu's network manager =) or 2c) Change the camera's IP to 10.0.0.xxx (192.168.0.9 - System Preferences) and plug it to your wi-fi router - that would be the most effective solution of the problem. my router has an option to have group of DHCP Pools, I tried to enable a 192.168.0.X network for the camera, but gave up I do have another router siting around.. (thinking) Best regards, Oleg Dzhimiev On 10 June 2011 01:19, Tom Sparks tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.auhttp://mc/compose?to=tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au wrote: --- On *Fri, 10/6/11, Andrey Filippov support-list@support.elphel.comhttp://mc/compose?to=support-list@support.elphel.com * wrote: From: Andrey Filippov support-list@support.elphel.comhttp://mc/compose?to=support-list@support.elphel.com Subject: Re: [Elphel-support] hard drive/Disk Recorder issues To: Tom Sparks tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.auhttp://mc/compose?to=tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au, support-list@support.elphel.comhttp://mc/compose?to=support-list@support.elphel.com Received: Friday, 10 June, 2011, 1:17 AM On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 4:08 AM, Tom Sparks tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.auhttp://mc/compose?to=tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au wrote: I am have hard drive/disk Recorder issues the Disk recorder gui sometimes mounts the hard drive but by the time I can do something (record/view/download videos) the network disconnects Tom, can you please be more specific - what does that mean network disconnects ? Is it something related to the camera, computer or some router/switch? the computer is connected directly to the camera the computer report the network has been disconnected and then reconnected I try refreshing the page, and I get can not connect to 192.168.0.9 Refreshing the control page while it is running might have some side effects. I forced to disable my ethernet connection and re-enabling it I then refresh the page and the issue starts again :( What do you mean by disable my ethernet connection and re-enabling it -is it in the camera or on your computer? on the computer What actions/command do you run? Can you provide additional information about your network configuration? the computer has two networks camera to computer (computer: 192.168.015 camera 192.168.0.9) WIFI network (10.0.0.X) Andrey if a screencast can explain it better I can do one? -- tom_a_sparks It's a nerdy thing I like to do Please use ISO approved file formats excluding Office Open XML - http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html 3 x (x)Ubuntu 10.04, Amiga A1200 WB 3.1, UAE AF 2006 WB 3.X, Sam440 AOS 4.1 ___ Support-list mailing list Support-list@support.elphel.comhttp://mc/compose?to=Support-list@support.elphel.com http://support.elphel.com/mailman/listinfo/support-list_support.elphel.com ___ Support-list mailing list Support-list@support.elphel.comhttp://mc/compose?to=Support-list@support.elphel.com http://support.elphel.com/mailman/listinfo/support-list_support.elphel.com ___ Support-list mailing list Support-list@support.elphel.com http://support.elphel.com/mailman/listinfo/support-list_support.elphel.com ___ Support-list mailing list
Re: [Elphel-support] hard drive/Disk Recorder issues
--- On Sat, 11/6/11, Andrey Filippov support-list@support.elphel.com wrote: Tom, If the camera _is_rebooting that may mean that the power supply is insufficient. Internally in the 12V version we use 9-36V DC-DC converter, but as the camera has input diode bridge, the DC-DC converter gets less, than the full input voltage. So the margin is not that large, and when the hard drive starts spinning, it can cause the short voltage drop and the DC-DC fails to provide internal 3.3V. Your camera has additional boards (10359, 10338) that causes more power consumption than a regular 12V camera with HDD, and while we tested it working we did not verify the margin. that is starting to make sense as it reboots when I am trying access the hard drive What power source are you using? the one yous supplied Can you try it with higher voltage (it can go up to 36V) to verify the problem? I'll have to do some hunting round the house to see what I have got (crossing fingers) Andrey -- tom_a_sparks It's a nerdy thing I like to do Please use ISO approved file formats excluding Office Open XML - http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html 3 x (x)Ubuntu 10.04, Amiga A1200 WB 3.1, UAE AF 2006 WB 3.X, Sam440 AOS 4.1 On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Tom Sparks tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au wrote: --- On Sat, 11/6/11, Oleg support-list@support.elphel.com wrote: Tom, The only case when your laptop ( ubuntu 10.04?) can lose wired connection is when there's no link - the amber led should go off/on and that should cause the camera to reboot. And the camera won't reboot, right? the camera is rebooting... it just happens when you least excepted to... Please, try the following: 1) Check how the amber led behaves when the pc loses its ip address. the computer dose not have the amber or green ethernet lights on the camera the light amber led dose go off then on again 2a) Disable wi-fi - in case your OS can't handle 2 networks at the same time. i'll have to looking into that or 2b) Make it so the pc won't lose its ip address when something is plugged/unplugged - it's not trivial (if not impossible) in (k)ubuntu's network manager =) or 2c) Change the camera's IP to 10.0.0.xxx (192.168.0.9 - System Preferences) and plug it to your wi-fi router - that would be the most effective solution of the problem. my router has an option to have group of DHCP Pools, I tried to enable a 192.168.0.X network for the camera, but gave up I do have another router siting around.. (thinking) Best regards, Oleg Dzhimiev On 10 June 2011 01:19, Tom Sparks tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au wrote: --- On Fri, 10/6/11, Andrey Filippov support-list@support.elphel.com wrote: From: Andrey Filippov support-list@support.elphel.com Subject: Re: [Elphel-support] hard drive/Disk Recorder issues To: Tom Sparks tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au, support-list@support.elphel.com Received: Friday, 10 June, 2011, 1:17 AM On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 4:08 AM, Tom Sparks tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au wrote: I am have hard drive/disk Recorder issues the Disk recorder gui sometimes mounts the hard drive but by the time I can do something (record/view/download videos) the network disconnects Tom, can you please be more specific - what does that mean network disconnects ? Is it something related to the camera, computer or some router/switch? the computer is connected directly to the camera the computer report the network has been disconnected and then reconnected I try refreshing the page, and I get can not connect to 192.168.0.9 Refreshing the control page while it is running might have some side effects. I forced to disable my ethernet connection and re-enabling it I then refresh the page and the issue starts again :( What do you mean by disable my ethernet connection and re-enabling it -is it in the camera or on your computer? on the computer What actions/command do you run? Can you provide additional information about your network configuration? the computer has two networks camera to computer (computer: 192.168.015 camera 192.168.0.9) WIFI network (10.0.0.X) Andrey if a screencast can explain it better I can do one? -- tom_a_sparks It's a nerdy thing I like to do Please use ISO approved file formats excluding Office Open XML - http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html 3 x (x)Ubuntu 10.04, Amiga A1200 WB 3.1, UAE AF 2006 WB 3.X, Sam440 AOS 4.1 ___ Support-list mailing list Support-list@support.elphel.com http://support.elphel.com/mailman/listinfo/support-list_support.elphel.com ___ Support-list mailing list Support-list@support.elphel.com http://support.elphel.com/mailman/listinfo/support-list_support.elphel.com ___ Support-list mailing list Support-list@support.elphel.com http://support.elphel.com/mailman/listinfo/support
[Elphel-support] hard drive/Disk Recorder issues
I am have hard drive/disk Recorder issues the Disk recorder gui sometimes mounts the hard drive but by the time I can do something (record/view/download videos) the network disconnects I try refreshing the page, and I get can not connect to 192.168.0.9 I forced to disable my ethernet connection and re-enabling it I then refresh the page and the issue starts again :( if a screencast can explain it better I can do one? -- tom_a_sparks It's a nerdy thing I like to do Please use ISO approved file formats excluding Office Open XML - http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html 3 x (x)Ubuntu 10.04, Amiga A1200 WB 3.1, UAE AF 2006 WB 3.X, Sam440 AOS 4.1 ___ Support-list mailing list Support-list@support.elphel.com http://support.elphel.com/mailman/listinfo/support-list_support.elphel.com
Re: [Elphel-support] hard drive/Disk Recorder issues
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 4:08 AM, Tom Sparks tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.auwrote: I am have hard drive/disk Recorder issues the Disk recorder gui sometimes mounts the hard drive but by the time I can do something (record/view/download videos) the network disconnects Tom, can you please be more specific - what does that mean network disconnects ? Is it something related to the camera, computer or some router/switch? I try refreshing the page, and I get can not connect to 192.168.0.9 Refreshing the control page while it is running might have some side effects. I forced to disable my ethernet connection and re-enabling it I then refresh the page and the issue starts again :( What do you mean by disable my ethernet connection and re-enabling it -is it in the camera or on your computer? What actions/command do you run? Can you provide additional information about your network configuration? Andrey if a screencast can explain it better I can do one? -- tom_a_sparks It's a nerdy thing I like to do Please use ISO approved file formats excluding Office Open XML - http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html 3 x (x)Ubuntu 10.04, Amiga A1200 WB 3.1, UAE AF 2006 WB 3.X, Sam440 AOS 4.1 ___ Support-list mailing list Support-list@support.elphel.com http://support.elphel.com/mailman/listinfo/support-list_support.elphel.com ___ Support-list mailing list Support-list@support.elphel.com http://support.elphel.com/mailman/listinfo/support-list_support.elphel.com
