Re: [biofuel] A Bioenergy Glossary
when i tried it said it could not find file. greg - Original Message - From: Hanns B. Wetzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 7:04 AM Subject: RE: [biofuel] A Bioenergy Glossary Duh!! Not thinking. Does work now. -Original Message- From: Hanns B. Wetzel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 27 August 2001 9:54 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [biofuel] A Bioenergy Glossary The URL doesn't work with Bio-enrergy_Glossary.htm substituted for filename. Hanns -Original Message- From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 26 August 2001 1:03 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] A Bioenergy Glossary http://www.rachel.org/library/admin/uploadedFiles/showFile.cfm?filenam e=Bio-enrergy_Glossary.htm A Bioenergy Glossary. Oregon, Dept. of Energy; . Oregon, USA: Oregon Department of Energy, 24-Nov-95. Oregon Department of Energy 625 Marion Street NE Salem, OR 97310 1-800-221-8035 503-378-3194 FAX: 503-373-7806 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Edition Date: 11/24/95 The Bioenergy Glossary, published by the Oregon Department of Energy, is a useful compendium of more than 600 technical terms. Included in the glossary are general terms and specialized terms associated with bioenergy technologies. Definitions have been drawn from the fields of energy policy and development, forestry, biofuels, cogeneration, waste water treatment, and biogas production. The Bioenergy Glossary is a reference guide for bioenergy industries in Oregon. [Long - 13,000 words] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/zoU8wD/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] A Bioenergy Glossary
It works for me. You have to cut and paste the entire second line onto the end of the first. e=Bio-enrergy_Glossary.htm -- Harmon Seaver, MLIS CyberShamanix Work 920-203-9633 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home 920-233-5820 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cybershamanix.com/resume.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/zoU8wD/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Toilet bowl cleaners you can drink?
:-) Always said the stuff's too good to burn in your motor. Nice story, thanks. Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Tokyo http://journeytoforever.org/ I know my dog would love it! By ELLIOTT MINOR, Associated Press Writer ALBANY, Ga. (AP) - Farmers have been pushing biodiesel - made from the oil of soybeans, peanuts and other crops - as an alternative to gasoline, but a University of Georgia researcher thinks it might have a better future making safer cleaning products. snip Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/zoU8wD/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: Tobacco funds used for other projects
Keith, I know that you and I disagree on helping farmers. I don't have a political position here, I have clients. However, these are just dirt farmers who have signed up with Tyson or another integrator to raise birds for them. There is no way the price of poultry could be kept at the current levels without these farmers. Birds are raised in houses of 20,000 sq. ft each. They have all they need to grow into healthy, nutritious elements of our human diet. I understand that some folks would like to see us return to backyard flocks of 100 birds running around in the yard but that is not possible if everybody is going to have something to eat. That's always the objection Neal. Do it our way, the industrial agriculture way, externalisations and all, or go back to the Dark Ages and we'll all starve - while turning a Nelson's eye to the many viable and in all ways preferable alternatives that exist, and work. You're a member of the Sustainable Agriculture list, if you don't know that you sure haven't been paying attention. If you believe it, you're bamboozling yourself. Check this out: http://www.guardianunlimited.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4054683,00.html Anyway, you're sure it's so cheap? When you add everything in? Dairy farmers and industrial cattle operators asking for $12 billion in taxpayers' money to clean up their mess, industrial pig farmers asking for $6 billion to clean up their mess? Poultry's no different. That they're clients cuts no ice at all. That's what you said last time. As for this: They have all they need to grow into healthy, nutritious elements of our human diet. That is highly debatible, in all points, as I'm sure you know. More, it's widely rejected, the opposition is large, various, and growing fast. But this isn't the place to go into all this. I see you cut the links I provided to previous messages on this, so I'll put them back again. I can see you didn't check them. Here are some the messages, from various listers. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/message/2933 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/message/2954 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/message/2966 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/message/2994 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/message/3027 Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Tokyo http://journeytoforever.org/ snip Cornelius A. Van Milligen Kentucky Enrichment Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Tobacco funds set for ethanol project Keith, not mentioned in the article were the grants ear marked for the Kentucky Poultry Growers Cooperative to engineer and install sawdust fired boilers to provide hot water heat for the chicken houses. The idea is to compete with the cost of natural gas and propane. An 8 house complex cost about $100,000 to heat last winter. If the sawdust fired system was in place instead of natural gas the cost would have been about $30,000 including the debt on the new system. Hello Neal Yes, we talked about this here before. Working with Tyson Poultry. We talked of farmers suffering because of huge fuel bills while polluting the place with what they should be turning into fuel, of letting dynosaurs die, of no need for factory farming livestock operations anyway, of what it does to the birds, of well-designed large-scale poultry housing in colder climes than Kentucky's that didn't need any winter heating and so on Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/zoU8wD/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Dishwasher processors
It would certainly work OK for separating tallow, But I'm thinking a washing machine could be made into a centrifuge to remove most of the water after washing biodiesel. anyone ever try this? Ed Service - Original Message - From: Edward Beggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 12:54 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Dishwasher processors Hi Ed - Yeah, lining with that Wal-Mart felt sounded like a plan... - Original Message - From: Ed Service [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Dishwasher processors Hi Ed' You would have to modify the tub to keep the oil inside for the spinner to do any good! (the clothes cannot get through the holes so they dry but the oil would go through freely) A few years ago I done some work for Pan-Canadian testing a centrifuge built by an American company called CINC (Costner Industries Nevada Corporation) It was quite good at separating water from crude oil even when cold but it did tend to clog up with sand. Something like this would work good in Bio-fuel and was quite simple. Ed Service - Original Message - From: Edward Beggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 12:37 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Dishwasher processors Yes and I think some European and Japanese(?) models might have extra-fast spinners that reduce dryer use, right? So that would do quite a nice job I think, of pretreating oil ( of course gravity will do it too, with some time). Ed B. www.biofuels.ca - Original Message - From: Paul Gobert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 2:00 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Dishwasher processors - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Has anyone made a processor out of an automatic washing machine? Also quite a lot of twin-tubs around (also no pumps or heaters), but I guess the spindrier's no use for anything. Spindrier could be useful for filtering beef tallow etc out of cottenseed oil etc. Line bowl with filterbag/cloth, or even felt, pour in oil, spin and pump into reaction vessel. I'm on the lookout for an old Hoover twin tub. Regards Paul Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/zoU8wD/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] Re: Tobacco funds used for other projects
People rave about how much better the eggs are that I have than the store bought. My chickens free range and the rooster watches for hawks. Even the rabbits run when he gives his danger call. Kirk -Original Message- From: Harmon Seaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 6:00 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Tobacco funds used for other projects Keith, I know that you and I disagree on helping farmers. I don't have a political position here, I have clients. However, these are just dirt farmers who have signed up with Tyson or another integrator to raise birds for them. There is no way the price of poultry could be kept at the current levels without these farmers. Birds are raised in houses of 20,000 sq. ft each. They have all they need to grow into healthy, nutritious elements of our human diet. I understand that some folks would like to see us return to backyard flocks of 100 birds running around in the yard but that is not possible if everybody is going to have something to eat. People wouldn't have enough to eat if all those factory farms went under? Duh! The truth is people would have a lot more to eat if farmers quit growing feed for animals. Factory farms are a sick, evil thing. You are what you eat, of course, and if you feed your body on the misery of others, what goes around comes around. In fact, finding out about how chickens, in particular, were forced to live by your farmers was the last straw for me -- I quite eating meat. I used to laugh at vegetarians years ago, but there is simply no way I can bring myself to partake in that sort of immorality. Frankly, I totally believe that the people who run those sorts of farms belong in prison themselves. BTW, I just heard a news piece on NPR, about farms in Denmark. The government, and the processing plants, have gotten together and banned all chemical and medicinal food additives for animals. And the farmers found out they didn't need them in the first place. -- Harmon Seaver, MLIS CyberShamanix Work 920-203-9633 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home 920-233-5820 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cybershamanix.com/resume.html Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.273 / Virus Database: 143 - Release Date: 8/16/2001 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/zoU8wD/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Dishwasher processors
Hi Ed - Yeah, lining with that Wal-Mart felt sounded like a plan... - Original Message - From: Ed Service [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Dishwasher processors Hi Ed' You would have to modify the tub to keep the oil inside for the spinner to do any good! (the clothes cannot get through the holes so they dry but the oil would go through freely) A few years ago I done some work for Pan-Canadian testing a centrifuge built by an American company called CINC (Costner Industries Nevada Corporation) It was quite good at separating water from crude oil even when cold but it did tend to clog up with sand. Something like this would work good in Bio-fuel and was quite simple. Ed Service - Original Message - From: Edward Beggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 12:37 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Dishwasher processors Yes and I think some European and Japanese(?) models might have extra-fast spinners that reduce dryer use, right? So that would do quite a nice job I think, of pretreating oil ( of course gravity will do it too, with some time). Ed B. www.biofuels.ca - Original Message - From: Paul Gobert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 2:00 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Dishwasher processors - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Has anyone made a processor out of an automatic washing machine? Also quite a lot of twin-tubs around (also no pumps or heaters), but I guess the spindrier's no use for anything. Spindrier could be useful for filtering beef tallow etc out of cottenseed oil etc. Line bowl with filterbag/cloth, or even felt, pour in oil, spin and pump into reaction vessel. I'm on the lookout for an old Hoover twin tub. Regards Paul Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/zoU8wD/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
