[biofuels-biz] Re: small production plant
I'm interested the link isn't working for me... but i'm interested!! Trevor Calgary Canada --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], goat industries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's nothing revolutionary about this trailer plant. It was an idea concocted with help from John Nicholson and of bio-power and the design overcomes a lot of potential problems associated with oil spillage, health and safety, planning and business rates. The bio-diesel part of it is very conventional .. mixers, settlement tanks, centrifuge etc. and there is no automation like Dick Carlstien's plant at present. Also, it should be made clear that the bio-diesel equipment is not yet complete and the plant as a whole will not be available untill April 2002. There are photographs of some of the prototype mixers and settlement tanks at the following address: http://www.goatindustries.fsnet.co.uk/alternativeroadfuels/alternative roadfu els.htm The trailer is being worked on as we speak and the basic layout can be made available to the group if there is continued interest .. Paddy. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Pv4pGD/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: GAS-L: Re: [biofuel] Re wood gas emissions
Gavin Gulliver-Goodall wrote: Yes burning on stoves will be just as clean depending on the nozzle design to ensure optimum gas-air mixing. CV of woodgas varies according to fuel, gasifier etc but 4 Mj/kg seems a realistic number from memory Stoichiometric ration with air is about 1:1 where as propane is 22:1 Depending on temperature and exact conditions of combustion you may have NOx or CO in the exhaust too. I'd think that more likely to occur with an open burner than in an engine, especially if you had optimized the engine (advanced the spark at least) for woodgas. I wonder how easy it would be to run all the regular house stuff (natural gas boiler, hotwater heater, cookstove) on wood gas? Seems like I used to have a book that had all that info, but can't remember if I gave it to someone or what, but anyway, at most it should just require opening up the gas jets a bit, maybe not even that, maybe just adjusting the air intakes on the burners. -- Harmon Seaver, MLIS CyberShamanix Work 920-203-9633 Home 920-233-5820 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cybershamanix.com/resume.html Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] gasifiers for logs
I've been looking at some of the gasification archive stuff on gasifiers for green wood and for logs, rather than chips, and started thinking of building a gasifier out of a 55 gal drum, horizontally, essentially like a common barrel stove, except that the door and draft on the end would be at the top, and the flue opening would be on the bottom, perhaps in the middle of the barrel. Maybe a bed of firebrick loosely laid over some sort of rack or grate, so that the gas flow wouldn't be impeded, then a collector chamber underneath out of a 5 gallon can maybe with some sort of ash cleanout at the bottom (or maybe the whole thing just taken off periodically) with the gas pipe outlet higher up on the pail -- then just standard filter/cooler stuff after that. Has anyone tried such a design? I'm also wondering about wrapping copper tubing for heating water around the firebox and gas outlet --would that have any bad effect on the gasifier, cool it down too much? -- Harmon Seaver, MLIS CyberShamanix Work 920-203-9633 Home 920-233-5820 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cybershamanix.com/resume.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Pv4pGD/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] gasifiers for logs
Whoops, forgot to include a couple of URLS showing commercial boilers which use this design (although they just burn the gas in a secondary chamber). http://www.kuenzel.de/English/products/indexEP.htm http://www.woodboilers.com/wood.html -- Harmon Seaver, MLIS CyberShamanix Work 920-203-9633 Home 920-233-5820 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cybershamanix.com/resume.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Pv4pGD/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] The Babington Multi Fuel Burner
Woiks for me. Craig Reece Pip J. Patton wrote: Hello all, I tried to use this URL, but it didn't work. Anyone know why? On Sat, 29 Sep 2001 09:33:19 -0700 Ian Main [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't know if this has already been posted or not, but there's a fellow who made one and has a good writup here: http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/babington/default.htm Ian Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Pv4pGD/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Waste Veggie Oil in Home Heater
the flash point of veggie oil is much higher than diesel. if filtered and heated, you won't have problems with it. energy content is similar. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Mirror Site http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children. - Original Message - From: Steve W [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Waste Veggie Oil in Home Heater Dana, Thanks for your response. It seems to me that the only problem I could have would be plugging up the carburator. This old stove just lets the oil run into the bottom of a cylindrical talk where it burns. Not efficient but simple. Is there any danger of using waste veggie oil for this? Is it more volitile or explosive than normal home heating oil? Does it burn as easily and with comparable heat? Which impurities cause trouble and how? Thanks, Steve W --- Dana Linscott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, We are currently experimenting with WVO in various oil heaters. The key seems to be filtering and then warming the oil to a viscosity similar to the fuel you are replacing. In the engines we are running on WVO this has been the trick and of the two filtering has been the most bothersome. We filter to 5 microns which requires frequent cleaning of filters. I think this may be overkill when it comes to a simple stove of the type you describe but better safe than sorry. We are using a vacuum filter which utilizes a compressor unit from a defunct refrigerator (free) and commercial fuel tank filters but probably need to set up a backflush circuit to simplify cleaning them. Right now we simply remove them and soak them in gasoline carefully pouring out the accumulated particles about every 100 gallons. The majority of the crud settles out and so the solvent can be poured off and reused over and over. But it is messy and one must be vigilant when messing around with gasoline. Does anyone have a working filter setup that is simpler than ours or has a backflush capability? I would be very interested in feedback or pointers? When it comes to warming the WVO a waterbed heater seems to do the trick well and they are cheap (or free in some cases). Please let me know how your experiment goes... and don't be disappointed if you run into a few glitches along the way. What you want to do IS possible just persevere and think it out as much as possible first. Good luck. Dana --- Steve W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Biofuelists, There has been interesting discussion about converting waste vegetable oil into biodiesel and I might try that sometime. But what about just taking waste vegetable and burning it in an oil stove to heat ones home? I have an old oil stove that has a simple carburator on it and requires no electricity to run. Could I just filter the WVO real good and burn it in this? I don't think deposits would be a big problem. I could even heat the oil up to boil off the water. Steve = Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 __ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ = Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Pv4pGD/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please
Re: [biofuel] Digest Number 650
diesels are available in the US, and the fuel is widely available as well. $1.29 / gallon today. I prefer vegetable oil and vegetable oil based biodiesel for fuel. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Mirror Site http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children. - Original Message - From: Canfer, SJ (Simon) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 7:17 AM Subject: RE: [biofuel] Digest Number 650 The Seat Arosa and VW Lupo may share many components but that doesn't make them the same car! There's a 1.4 TDI engine and a 1.2litre; the Lupo 3L (i.e. 3litres per 100km) has a 1.2litre, 3 cylinder TDI engine, with many lightweight body parts and aerodynamic tweaks. These engines have unit injectors, aka PD. In terms of other manufacturers' engines, the Ford-PSA joint venture will yield 1.4 litre HDI common rail diesels any time now, with 8 and 16 valve variants. Renault already have a 1.5 litre DCi engine in the Clio, which may be even more efficient. ...but I expect few Americans would be interested in such small cars even if they could find diesel for sale ;) GM/Vauxhall also have launched the Astra Eco 4 here, which is larger than any of the above, and manages 4L/100km with a 1.7 turbodiesel. Simon Canfer (UK) -Original Message- snip From: martin.brook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: VW Tdi (was diesel motor capable of 60 mpg It is the Vw Lupo or Seat Arosa in europe (both the same car different badges) Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Pv4pGD/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: Re: [biofuel] The Babington Multi Fuel Burner
Hello all, I tried to use this URL, but it didn't work. Anyone know why? On Sat, 29 Sep 2001 09:33:19 -0700 Ian Main [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't know if this has already been posted or not, but there's a fellow who made one and has a good writup here: http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/babington/default.htm Ian GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Pv4pGD/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
