Re: [Biofuel] Running B100
on my email that is posted with every one of the messages I have going to the list and ask away, or... Luc - Original Message - From: "Fritz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Running B100 Hi Luc, my name is Fritz,i am Quebecois and would appreciate a privat mail from you at [EMAIL PROTECTED] merci Fritz from Lac du Cerf - Original Message - From: "Legal Eagle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 2:56 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Running B100 It appears that not only is the screen filter in the tank severely gummed up but that the lines themselves are brittle and in need of changing. After this latest upgrade I do believe that my Benz will be BD adjusted and I can get on with more important things, like getting ready for another season of increased BD production. I learned on the weekend that I may have a clientele building without my even looking for one, so the expansion I was planning is a good thing. That's the beauty of a good BD set-up, it can be easily expanded to increase productivity without having to re-build a whole new reactor/wash tank system :) Luc ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Trees and power companies
Well my trees have managed to survive the Texas Hiway departments massacre, but now the power company is on the rampage. Any tree within 20 feet of a power line is being cut down, regardless of how tall it is. I had a major argument with them, as I have a lovely mature tree windscreen between my property and the hiway in the front of my place. I am tail end charlie on the line, so if I go off grid, I get to keep my trees. They have given me six months. I have been concentrating on the sustainable farming and on getting my farm going, planning on doing my biofuel thing in a big way when I had the farm up and running. I do not have the rabbitry set up for manure collection to do methane the way I wanted to. I had planned on using a separate generator and drive engines, so I could use my tractor for back up when maintenance was needed. I am still looking at the various ideas for solar AC and trying to figure out how much power I can get away with. I am not ready to do this. I am not willing to part with 20 to 30 year old tress, either. On a happy note, someone that does engine conversions to run SVO just joined HREG. [Houston Renewable Energy Group] so I will have some help reasonably close at hand. It will be wonderful to be able to get my conversions done locally. [within 150 miles] So, I have 6 months to be off grid. Any ideas of how to stream line the process and get me to where I need to be? Bright Blessings, Kim ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] oil price over the years
> Hoagy, > > You should run for president! would save the world from a lot of trouble. LOL > > Hakan Hilarious, your a scholar and a gentleman but my choice is the US democratic presidential nominee and I'm hoping its Kerry without the GOP trickery. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] oil price over the years
Hoagy, You should run for president! would save the world from a lot of trouble. LOL Hakan At 08:54 PM 10/19/2004, you wrote: Whether our addiction is costly or cheap abstinence won't turn on the lights or make the car go but maybe we can rationalize our disposition and understand the problem and willingly find a indigenous alternative for our incessant needs without delirium or disorderly conduct. > We both know that this talk about retroactive inflation adjustments are > completely irrelevant, if we do not suddenly discover that the difference > is stacked away on some secret asset account, that can be used to > compensate for the purchases at current levels. The economies are balanced > at the relevant and real historical prices, not what might have been. The > inflation BS that we hear more and more of, is only an attempt of bad > excuses by the people that should have known better. > > If you get drunk on expensive quality liquor the chance is that you > rationed and had less at fewer times, than if you get drunk on cheap liquor > every day. Under all circumstances, the latter will get you an awfully bad > hang over and also larger addiction problems. The abstinence problems in > the first case are much lesser and manageable, but in the latter case it is > very difficult, often with denial, hallucinations and violent behavior > (recognize something?). > > All will have difficulties, some relative small and other very big. US is > predestinated to be the worst case, only because it, with 4.5% of world > population, is using 25% of the available production. > > Hakan > At 03:55 PM 10/19/2004, you wrote: > > If 1981 crude oil peaked at US$39 then > > adjusted for inflation, 2004 price about US$81. > > If 1981 average crude oil price was US$32 > > per barrel, inflation adjusted for 2004 about US$67. > > > > US Inflation Calculator > > http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl > > About the CPI inflation calculator > > The CPI inflation calculator uses the average > > Consumer Price Index for a given calendar year. > > This data represents changes in prices of > > all goods and services purchased for consumption by > > urban households. This index value has been > > calculated every year since 1913. For the > > current year, the latest monthly index value is used. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Battery chargers
Keith Addison wrote: Greetings I can't find my tall black pointed hat and the wild garlic seems to be out of season, so I'm completely incapable of figuring out anything about electrickery for myself, please excuse. Those among us who're better versed in the black arts than I will no doubt find this childishly simple, but not me. Anyway, can you use a battery charger as a transformer? In other words, if I wanted to use a car windscreen wiper motor or windscreen washer pump or fuel pump or something, could I use a 12V battery charger to run it off the mains? Or would I have to use a battery and use the charger to keep the battery charged? Thanks Keith You can without issue, so long as the current required by the device does not exceed the current rating of the battery charger. If it does and you don't use the device continuously, you could attach a battery to the charger and the battery would handle the load for the time that the device is running, and the charger would charge the battery back up when removed. Beware that some battery chargers are 'smart' and may not like powering a device that is not a battery. Also the 'dumb' chargers might overcharge a battery if connected all of the tiem. -- -- Martin Klingensmith http://infoarchive.net/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] oil price over the years
Whether our addiction is costly or cheap abstinence won't turn on the lights or make the car go but maybe we can rationalize our disposition and understand the problem and willingly find a indigenous alternative for our incessant needs without delirium or disorderly conduct. > We both know that this talk about retroactive inflation adjustments are > completely irrelevant, if we do not suddenly discover that the difference > is stacked away on some secret asset account, that can be used to > compensate for the purchases at current levels. The economies are balanced > at the relevant and real historical prices, not what might have been. The > inflation BS that we hear more and more of, is only an attempt of bad > excuses by the people that should have known better. > > If you get drunk on expensive quality liquor the chance is that you > rationed and had less at fewer times, than if you get drunk on cheap liquor > every day. Under all circumstances, the latter will get you an awfully bad > hang over and also larger addiction problems. The abstinence problems in > the first case are much lesser and manageable, but in the latter case it is > very difficult, often with denial, hallucinations and violent behavior > (recognize something?). > > All will have difficulties, some relative small and other very big. US is > predestinated to be the worst case, only because it, with 4.5% of world > population, is using 25% of the available production. > > Hakan > At 03:55 PM 10/19/2004, you wrote: > > If 1981 crude oil peaked at US$39 then > > adjusted for inflation, 2004 price about US$81. > > If 1981 average crude oil price was US$32 > > per barrel, inflation adjusted for 2004 about US$67. > > > > US Inflation Calculator > > http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl > > About the CPI inflation calculator > > The CPI inflation calculator uses the average > > Consumer Price Index for a given calendar year. > > This data represents changes in prices of > > all goods and services purchased for consumption by > > urban households. This index value has been > > calculated every year since 1913. For the > > current year, the latest monthly index value is used. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] oil price over the years
Yes, I think you are right, the policy of the democratic US seems to be set in the back room and by think tanks, rather than by the American people. Policies, goals and methods are secret, not open and often lied about. It is corruption at its best. Hakan At 06:39 PM 10/19/2004, you wrote: Before the US Iraq war the Dollar, Euro and Hitting OPEC by way of Baghdad was mentioned along with the a GOP think tank Project for the New American Century (PNAC) but some thought it a conspiracy and now look where its at. We're peering into a crystal ball, trying to read the hand writing on the wall, so Kerry on - I'd rather he this fall. > MH, > > The list is not really accurate, since it is using dates before the both > the recent price rises and even more important the dollars large fall to > most of the currencies used in respective country. If you include and study > this, you will see that US is hit by a "double wammy". For many of the > countries the Euro is applicable, or the currency follow the Euro and it > will show more modest rises in local currency, than the sharp rise in US > dollar and currencies connected to the dollar. It is unbelievable that the > Americans are so used to only study their own "belly button", that they > cannot see in which direction they are heading. > > Combine this with the tendency of OPEC countries to sign > delivery/development contracts with other countries than US plus > "coalition" and the writing is on the wall. For NG it is the risk that the > resources are signed up with others, when US finally get their > transportation/import act together. Oil producers are intimidated by the > Bush policies and do not trust US or the dollar any longer. They are > hedging and it is very obvious. It looks like the US "strong man" policies > are starting to backfire and it is not only the debt situation and the > trade balance that are falling apart. President George W. Bush is the most > expensive president in US history and it is remarkable that the US > population do not see it clearly, or think that they can afford him for 4 > more years. It is very large and obvious risks that "the sh-t will hit the > fan". I do not understand that he even want to be president for an other > period. LOL > > Luc touched on this very important situation in an earlier post, a petty > that he got it a bit muddled by involving Israel in it. The economic > vulnerability and policies is worth its own independent analysis, even if > it is a case for some connections. > > Hakan > At 02:02 PM 10/19/2004, you wrote: > > I was recently over at > > > > Energy Information Administration > > US Department Of Energy > > International Energy Annual > > http://www.eia.doe.gov/iea/ > > > > and clicked on PRICES then on > > > > Table 7.2 World Survey of Recent Selected Petroleum Product Prices > > (Including Taxes) > > > > Heres a sampling below -- > > > > U.S. Dollars per U.S. Gallon > > Region/Country DateGasoline Diesel > > Canada 1Q/20032.24 1.43 > > US 1/2003 1.65 1.49 > > Brazil 1/2003 2.44 1.52 > > Colombia 1/2003 1.65 0.85 > > Paraguay 1/2003 1.62 1.30 > > Venezuela1/2003 0.16 0.10 > > France 1Q/2003 4.74 3.61 > > Germany 1Q/2003 4.39 3.46 > > Spain1Q/2003 3.43 2.99 > > Sweden 1Q/2003 4.45 3.70 > > UK1Q/2003 4.95 4.76 > > Poland 1Q/2003 3.53 2.83 > > Russia 1/2003 0.69 0.63 > > Iran 20020.34 0.07 > > Kuwait 20020.78 0.68 > > Saudi Arabia 20020.91 0.37 > > Libya 20020.56 0.50 > > Nigeria 20020.82 0.82 > > South Africa 20021.41 1.25 > > Australia1Q/2003 1.65 2.18 > > China 4Q/20021.32 1.21 > > Hong Kong 1Q/20035.44 3.07 > > India 20022.50 1.72 > > Indonesia2002 0.68 0.72 > > Japan 1Q/20033.36 2.67 > > New Zealand 1Q/20032.40 1.42 > > Thailand 4Q/2002 1.36 1.25 > > > > Includes additional pricing for -- > > Residential Fuels - > >Light Fuel Oil, Kerosene, Liquefied Petroleum Gas. > > Industrial Fuels - > >U.S. Dollars per Barrel - Light Fuel Oil, Heavy Fuel Oil. > > > > U.S. Gasoline and Crude Oil Prices by Year 1918-1999 chart > > (In Constant 1995 Dollars) > > http://www.energy.ca.gov
Re: [Biofuel] oil price over the years
Donald, In many aspects EU seems to have more realistic energy policies than US and maybe it has been some benefits from the original thoughts on the fuel taxation models. In many aspects, the fuel taxation model have failed its original purpose and been misused as a general taxation tool. This means that the original goals of flexibility and stability only are partially met. We do have to recognize the we achieved general fuel efficiency and are moving more and more towards diesel engines as a tool for higher efficiency. It is good suggestions for thermal building codes, even if a lot more can be done on HVAC dimensioning, control equipment and control policies. Taken together it is a good start in EU towards biofuels and the conservation/efficiency that will support such renewable technologies. EU is leading in the world on Wind Turbines and they give quite a significant percentage toward the EU electricity generation, compared with the 0.5-1% that US have achieved. It is a lot of things to do and a lot of things that must be corrected and enhanced, but EU seems to move in roughly in the right directions. This compared to US, who at the moment seems to go in circles. We have much more to do in EU and need dedicated people, initiatives, suggestions and actions. Hakan At 05:23 PM 10/19/2004, you wrote: Hakan, You make some very valid points. It would be useful to see these prices rebased in Euros. I'm not sure what proportion of the list's readers are based in areas more closely allied to the Euro than to the US dollar, but I suspect it's quite a high proportion. For me the US dollar is a fairly meaningless measure, because it has changed so dramatically against my local currency (GB pounds). While we don't use Euros, they are much more stable relative to the pound than the US dollar. Another effect of US taxation policy on fuel is that the current high crude prices have a proportionally large effect on pump prices there. However here in the UK prices are significantly less than 10% higher than a couple of months ago - in other words, the current high prices have only a very small effect on people's perceptions, and hence a very small economic impact. I suspect the economic impact in the US will be a lot higher, another reflection of a much higher dependency on this one, limited resource. Donald --- Hakan Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > MH, > > The list is not really accurate, since it is using dates before the > both > the recent price rises and even more important the dollars large fall > to > most of the currencies used in respective country. If you include and > study > this, you will see that US is hit by a "double wammy". For many of > the > countries the Euro is applicable, or the currency follow the Euro and > it > will show more modest rises in local currency, than the sharp rise in > US > dollar and currencies connected to the dollar. It is unbelievable > that the > Americans are so used to only study their own "belly button", that > they > cannot see in which direction they are heading. > > Combine this with the tendency of OPEC countries to sign > delivery/development contracts with other countries than US plus > "coalition" and the writing is on the wall. For NG it is the risk > that the > resources are signed up with others, when US finally get their > transportation/import act together. Oil producers are intimidated by > the > Bush policies and do not trust US or the dollar any longer. They are > hedging and it is very obvious. It looks like the US "strong man" > policies > are starting to backfire and it is not only the debt situation and > the > trade balance that are falling apart. President George W. Bush is the > most > expensive president in US history and it is remarkable that the US > population do not see it clearly, or think that they can afford him > for 4 > more years. It is very large and obvious risks that "the sh-t will > hit the > fan". I do not understand that he even want to be president for an > other > period. LOL > > Luc touched on this very important situation in an earlier post, a > petty > that he got it a bit muddled by involving Israel in it. The economic > vulnerability and policies is worth its own independent analysis, > even if > it is a case for some connections. > > Hakan > > > At 02:02 PM 10/19/2004, you wrote: > > I was recently over at > > > > Energy Information Administration > > US Department Of Energy > > International Energy Annual > > http://www.eia.doe.gov/iea/ > > > > and clicked on PRICES then on > > > > Table 7.2 World Survey of Recent Selected Petroleum Product Prices > > > (Including Taxes) > > > > Heres a sampling below -- > > > > U.S. Dollars per U.S. Gallon > > Region/Country DateGasoline Diesel > > Canada 1Q/20032.24 1.43 > > US 1/2003 1.65 1.49 > > Brazil 1/2003 2.44 1.52
Re: [Biofuel] Battery chargers
Hi Keith ; Most battery chargers put out pulsing DC (technically called a haversine), because they lack output filter capacitors. These are not normally necessary when charging a battery because the battery acts like it's own filter capacitor. Also, the output of a 12V charger is typically 16 volts (to as high as 20V) to allow charging to take place. Most loads won't care too much about this pulsing DC, but the higher voltage may cause an overspeed condition on motors followed by overheat and burnout after a long time. DC motors (pumps, fans, etc.) and resistive loads (like a heater or incandescent light bulb) will probably work just fine, but they would have shortened life for voltages above 15V or so. A 12V DC electronic fluorescent ballast may not work correctly due to the pulses, and could be damaged immediately by overvoltage. If you happen to have a voltmeter, you can check the voltage with the load connected to the charger output. Anything around 15 volts should be fine. In any case, motors are quite resilient and most likely no damage will result with a short test (like one minute) , (provided or course it is a 12V charger on a 12 V system and you've got the polarity correct). So give it a try. Best Regards, Peter G. Thailand --- Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyway, can you use a battery charger as a > transformer? In other > words, if I wanted to use a car windscreen wiper > motor or windscreen > washer pump or fuel pump or something, could I use a > 12V battery > charger to run it off the mains? Or would I have to > use a battery and > use the charger to keep the battery charged? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] oil price over the years
Before the US Iraq war the Dollar, Euro and Hitting OPEC by way of Baghdad was mentioned along with the a GOP think tank Project for the New American Century (PNAC) but some thought it a conspiracy and now look where its at. We're peering into a crystal ball, trying to read the hand writing on the wall, so Kerry on - I'd rather he this fall. > MH, > > The list is not really accurate, since it is using dates before the both > the recent price rises and even more important the dollars large fall to > most of the currencies used in respective country. If you include and study > this, you will see that US is hit by a "double wammy". For many of the > countries the Euro is applicable, or the currency follow the Euro and it > will show more modest rises in local currency, than the sharp rise in US > dollar and currencies connected to the dollar. It is unbelievable that the > Americans are so used to only study their own "belly button", that they > cannot see in which direction they are heading. > > Combine this with the tendency of OPEC countries to sign > delivery/development contracts with other countries than US plus > "coalition" and the writing is on the wall. For NG it is the risk that the > resources are signed up with others, when US finally get their > transportation/import act together. Oil producers are intimidated by the > Bush policies and do not trust US or the dollar any longer. They are > hedging and it is very obvious. It looks like the US "strong man" policies > are starting to backfire and it is not only the debt situation and the > trade balance that are falling apart. President George W. Bush is the most > expensive president in US history and it is remarkable that the US > population do not see it clearly, or think that they can afford him for 4 > more years. It is very large and obvious risks that "the sh-t will hit the > fan". I do not understand that he even want to be president for an other > period. LOL > > Luc touched on this very important situation in an earlier post, a petty > that he got it a bit muddled by involving Israel in it. The economic > vulnerability and policies is worth its own independent analysis, even if > it is a case for some connections. > > Hakan > At 02:02 PM 10/19/2004, you wrote: > > I was recently over at > > > > Energy Information Administration > > US Department Of Energy > > International Energy Annual > > http://www.eia.doe.gov/iea/ > > > > and clicked on PRICES then on > > > > Table 7.2 World Survey of Recent Selected Petroleum Product Prices > > (Including Taxes) > > > > Heres a sampling below -- > > > > U.S. Dollars per U.S. Gallon > > Region/Country DateGasoline Diesel > > Canada 1Q/20032.24 1.43 > > US 1/2003 1.65 1.49 > > Brazil 1/2003 2.44 1.52 > > Colombia 1/2003 1.65 0.85 > > Paraguay 1/2003 1.62 1.30 > > Venezuela1/2003 0.16 0.10 > > France 1Q/2003 4.74 3.61 > > Germany 1Q/2003 4.39 3.46 > > Spain1Q/2003 3.43 2.99 > > Sweden 1Q/2003 4.45 3.70 > > UK1Q/2003 4.95 4.76 > > Poland 1Q/2003 3.53 2.83 > > Russia 1/2003 0.69 0.63 > > Iran 20020.34 0.07 > > Kuwait 20020.78 0.68 > > Saudi Arabia 20020.91 0.37 > > Libya 20020.56 0.50 > > Nigeria 20020.82 0.82 > > South Africa 20021.41 1.25 > > Australia1Q/2003 1.65 2.18 > > China 4Q/20021.32 1.21 > > Hong Kong 1Q/20035.44 3.07 > > India 20022.50 1.72 > > Indonesia2002 0.68 0.72 > > Japan 1Q/20033.36 2.67 > > New Zealand 1Q/20032.40 1.42 > > Thailand 4Q/2002 1.36 1.25 > > > > Includes additional pricing for -- > > Residential Fuels - > >Light Fuel Oil, Kerosene, Liquefied Petroleum Gas. > > Industrial Fuels - > >U.S. Dollars per Barrel - Light Fuel Oil, Heavy Fuel Oil. > > > > U.S. Gasoline and Crude Oil Prices by Year 1918-1999 chart > > (In Constant 1995 Dollars) > > > > http://www.energy.ca.gov/gasoline/statistics/us_gas+oilprices_1918-1999.html ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarch
Re: [Biofuel] Battery chargers
Greetings I can't find my tall black pointed hat and the wild garlic seems to be out of season, so I'm completely incapable of figuring out anything about electrickery for myself, please excuse. Those among us who're better versed in the black arts than I will no doubt find this childishly simple, but not me. Anyway, can you use a battery charger as a transformer? In other words, if I wanted to use a car windscreen wiper motor or windscreen washer pump or fuel pump or something, could I use a 12V battery charger to run it off the mains? Or would I have to use a battery and use the charger to keep the battery charged? Thanks Keith Hello Keith, It depends on the amperage your charger is able to provide. Most automotive-type battery chargers have a high setting around 10-12 amps, and a low setting around two amps. You'll need to check your motors to see what amperage thay draw at startup. If you add a battery to the circuit, then the high amp startup draw will be provided by the battery, and it will be charged at the low setting by the charger. andres ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Battery chargers
Hi Keith, if the consumption of your appliance is less than the output of the Charger,you can go direct! but it is allways better to have a Batterie as buffer in between! Fritz - Original Message - From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 11:58 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Battery chargers > Greetings > > I can't find my tall black pointed hat and the wild garlic seems to > be out of season, so I'm completely incapable of figuring out > anything about electrickery for myself, please excuse. Those among us > who're better versed in the black arts than I will no doubt find this > childishly simple, but not me. > > Anyway, can you use a battery charger as a transformer? In other > words, if I wanted to use a car windscreen wiper motor or windscreen > washer pump or fuel pump or something, could I use a 12V battery > charger to run it off the mains? Or would I have to use a battery and > use the charger to keep the battery charged? > > Thanks > > Keith > > > > ___ > Biofuel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Battery chargers
For some autonomy, charge the battery with the charger, and if mains go down, you have reserve. replace charger with pv panel . = = = Original message = = = As long as the current rating isn't exceeded, it would work. Newer battery chargers have different stages of charging based on battery response, and would be less desireable for this function. The older non-automatic (manual) flat out battery condition be damned units would be better. The best thing however, would be a transformer, and a bridge rectifier. Pretty cheap 12 volt power supply. = = = Original message = = = Greetings I can't find my tall black pointed hat and the wild garlic seems to be out of season, so I'm completely incapable of figuring out anything about electrickery for myself, please excuse. Those among us who're better versed in the black arts than I will no doubt find this childishly simple, but not me. Anyway, can you use a battery charger as a transformer? In other words, if I wanted to use a car windscreen wiper motor or windscreen washer pump or fuel pump or something, could I use a 12V battery charger to run it off the mains? Or would I have to use a battery and use the charger to keep the battery charged? Thanks Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Sent by ePrompter, the premier email notification software. Free download at http://www.ePrompter.com. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Sent by ePrompter, the premier email notification software. Free download at http://www.ePrompter.com. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
RE: [Biofuel] Battery chargers
Yes you can and I do all the time. If it is a self adjusting charger be sure and have the amps set correctly As in if it is set to 2 amps don't plug something in that draws 10 amps Most of the smaller chargers will have a 2 amp and a 10 amp setting. It has a needle to show what the current draw is. mel -Original Message- From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] Battery chargers Greetings I can't find my tall black pointed hat and the wild garlic seems to be out of season, so I'm completely incapable of figuring out anything about electrickery for myself, please excuse. Those among us who're better versed in the black arts than I will no doubt find this childishly simple, but not me. Anyway, can you use a battery charger as a transformer? In other words, if I wanted to use a car windscreen wiper motor or windscreen washer pump or fuel pump or something, could I use a 12V battery charger to run it off the mains? Or would I have to use a battery and use the charger to keep the battery charged? Thanks Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.773 / Virus Database: 520 - Release Date: 10/5/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.773 / Virus Database: 520 - Release Date: 10/5/2004 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Battery chargers
As long as the current rating isn't exceeded, it would work. Newer battery chargers have different stages of charging based on battery response, and would be less desireable for this function. The older non-automatic (manual) flat out battery condition be damned units would be better. The best thing however, would be a transformer, and a bridge rectifier. Pretty cheap 12 volt power supply. = = = Original message = = = Greetings I can't find my tall black pointed hat and the wild garlic seems to be out of season, so I'm completely incapable of figuring out anything about electrickery for myself, please excuse. Those among us who're better versed in the black arts than I will no doubt find this childishly simple, but not me. Anyway, can you use a battery charger as a transformer? In other words, if I wanted to use a car windscreen wiper motor or windscreen washer pump or fuel pump or something, could I use a 12V battery charger to run it off the mains? Or would I have to use a battery and use the charger to keep the battery charged? Thanks Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Sent by ePrompter, the premier email notification software. Free download at http://www.ePrompter.com. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Battery chargers
I can't find my tall black pointed hat and the wild garlic seems to be out of season, so I'm completely incapable of figuring out anything about electrickery for myself, please excuse. Those among us who're better versed in the black arts than I will no doubt find this childishly simple, but not me. Anyway, can you use a battery charger as a transformer? In other words, if I wanted to use a car windscreen wiper motor or windscreen washer pump or fuel pump or something, could I use a 12V battery charger to run it off the mains? Or would I have to use a battery and use the charger to keep the battery charged? Thanks Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] oil price over the years
We both know that this talk about retroactive inflation adjustments are completely irrelevant, if we do not suddenly discover that the difference is stacked away on some secret asset account, that can be used to compensate for the purchases at current levels. The economies are balanced at the relevant and real historical prices, not what might have been. The inflation BS that we hear more and more of, is only an attempt of bad excuses by the people that should have known better. If you get drunk on expensive quality liquor the chance is that you rationed and had less at fewer times, than if you get drunk on cheap liquor every day. Under all circumstances, the latter will get you an awfully bad hang over and also larger addiction problems. The abstinence problems in the first case are much lesser and manageable, but in the latter case it is very difficult, often with denial, hallucinations and violent behavior (recognize something?). All will have difficulties, some relative small and other very big. US is predestinated to be the worst case, only because it, with 4.5% of world population, is using 25% of the available production. Hakan At 03:55 PM 10/19/2004, you wrote: If 1981 crude oil peaked at US$39 then adjusted for inflation, 2004 price about US$81. If 1981 average crude oil price was US$32 per barrel, inflation adjusted for 2004 about US$67. US Inflation Calculator http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl About the CPI inflation calculator The CPI inflation calculator uses the average Consumer Price Index for a given calendar year. This data represents changes in prices of all goods and services purchased for consumption by urban households. This index value has been calculated every year since 1913. For the current year, the latest monthly index value is used. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] oil price over the years
Hakan, You make some very valid points. It would be useful to see these prices rebased in Euros. I'm not sure what proportion of the list's readers are based in areas more closely allied to the Euro than to the US dollar, but I suspect it's quite a high proportion. For me the US dollar is a fairly meaningless measure, because it has changed so dramatically against my local currency (GB pounds). While we don't use Euros, they are much more stable relative to the pound than the US dollar. Another effect of US taxation policy on fuel is that the current high crude prices have a proportionally large effect on pump prices there. However here in the UK prices are significantly less than 10% higher than a couple of months ago - in other words, the current high prices have only a very small effect on people's perceptions, and hence a very small economic impact. I suspect the economic impact in the US will be a lot higher, another reflection of a much higher dependency on this one, limited resource. Donald --- Hakan Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > MH, > > The list is not really accurate, since it is using dates before the > both > the recent price rises and even more important the dollars large fall > to > most of the currencies used in respective country. If you include and > study > this, you will see that US is hit by a "double wammy". For many of > the > countries the Euro is applicable, or the currency follow the Euro and > it > will show more modest rises in local currency, than the sharp rise in > US > dollar and currencies connected to the dollar. It is unbelievable > that the > Americans are so used to only study their own "belly button", that > they > cannot see in which direction they are heading. > > Combine this with the tendency of OPEC countries to sign > delivery/development contracts with other countries than US plus > "coalition" and the writing is on the wall. For NG it is the risk > that the > resources are signed up with others, when US finally get their > transportation/import act together. Oil producers are intimidated by > the > Bush policies and do not trust US or the dollar any longer. They are > hedging and it is very obvious. It looks like the US "strong man" > policies > are starting to backfire and it is not only the debt situation and > the > trade balance that are falling apart. President George W. Bush is the > most > expensive president in US history and it is remarkable that the US > population do not see it clearly, or think that they can afford him > for 4 > more years. It is very large and obvious risks that "the sh-t will > hit the > fan". I do not understand that he even want to be president for an > other > period. LOL > > Luc touched on this very important situation in an earlier post, a > petty > that he got it a bit muddled by involving Israel in it. The economic > vulnerability and policies is worth its own independent analysis, > even if > it is a case for some connections. > > Hakan > > > At 02:02 PM 10/19/2004, you wrote: > > I was recently over at > > > > Energy Information Administration > > US Department Of Energy > > International Energy Annual > > http://www.eia.doe.gov/iea/ > > > > and clicked on PRICES then on > > > > Table 7.2 World Survey of Recent Selected Petroleum Product Prices > > > (Including Taxes) > > > > Heres a sampling below -- > > > > U.S. Dollars per U.S. Gallon > > Region/Country DateGasoline Diesel > > Canada 1Q/20032.24 1.43 > > US 1/2003 1.65 1.49 > > Brazil 1/2003 2.44 1.52 > > Colombia 1/2003 1.65 0.85 > > Paraguay 1/2003 1.62 1.30 > > Venezuela1/2003 0.16 0.10 > > France 1Q/2003 4.74 3.61 > > Germany 1Q/2003 4.39 3.46 > > Spain1Q/2003 3.43 2.99 > > Sweden 1Q/2003 4.45 3.70 > > UK1Q/2003 4.95 4.76 > > Poland 1Q/2003 3.53 2.83 > > Russia 1/2003 0.69 0.63 > > Iran 20020.34 0.07 > > Kuwait 20020.78 0.68 > > Saudi Arabia 20020.91 0.37 > > Libya 20020.56 0.50 > > Nigeria 20020.82 0.82 > > South Africa 20021.41 1.25 > > Australia1Q/2003 1.65 2.18 > > China 4Q/20021.32 1.21 > > Hong Kong 1Q/20035.44 3.07 > > India 20022.50 1.72 > > Indonesia2002 0.68 0.72 > > Japan 1Q/2003
RE: [Biofuel] commercial
Todd and All, I'm in the processing of researching the same set of questions regarding the start point and requirements for setting up small scale commercial production. I'll keep you posted on what I find out and would appreciate any info anyone can provide. Thanks, Jack > [Original Message] > From: Todd Wootton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 10/18/2004 10:46:35 PM > Subject: [Biofuel] commercial > > Hi everyone, > > I am looking for some help regarding the formation of a small commercial operation. It appears as though there are many different ways and formulas to create biodiesel but what I am looking for is the most effective way to make biodiesel that will meet the government set standards. As well, I need to create a system that will handle a fairly large volume and am unsure as to where to start. Can anyone help lead me in the right direction? > Thanks > Todd > ___ > Biofuel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Biofuel USA goberment set standars
Could you please indicate me where to learn about biofuel USA government set standards?. I will appreciate very mich your help. F. - Original Message - From: "Todd Wootton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 6:22 PM Subject: [Biofuel] commercial Hi everyone, I am looking for some help regarding the formation of a small commercial operation. It appears as though there are many different ways and formulas to create biodiesel but what I am looking for is the most effective way to make biodiesel that will meet the government set standards. As well, I need to create a system that will handle a fairly large volume and am unsure as to where to start. Can anyone help lead me in the right direction? Thanks Todd ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] oil price over the years
If 1981 crude oil peaked at US$39 then adjusted for inflation, 2004 price about US$81. If 1981 average crude oil price was US$32 per barrel, inflation adjusted for 2004 about US$67. US Inflation Calculator http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl About the CPI inflation calculator The CPI inflation calculator uses the average Consumer Price Index for a given calendar year. This data represents changes in prices of all goods and services purchased for consumption by urban households. This index value has been calculated every year since 1913. For the current year, the latest monthly index value is used. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] oil price over the years
MH, The list is not really accurate, since it is using dates before the both the recent price rises and even more important the dollars large fall to most of the currencies used in respective country. If you include and study this, you will see that US is hit by a "double wammy". For many of the countries the Euro is applicable, or the currency follow the Euro and it will show more modest rises in local currency, than the sharp rise in US dollar and currencies connected to the dollar. It is unbelievable that the Americans are so used to only study their own "belly button", that they cannot see in which direction they are heading. Combine this with the tendency of OPEC countries to sign delivery/development contracts with other countries than US plus "coalition" and the writing is on the wall. For NG it is the risk that the resources are signed up with others, when US finally get their transportation/import act together. Oil producers are intimidated by the Bush policies and do not trust US or the dollar any longer. They are hedging and it is very obvious. It looks like the US "strong man" policies are starting to backfire and it is not only the debt situation and the trade balance that are falling apart. President George W. Bush is the most expensive president in US history and it is remarkable that the US population do not see it clearly, or think that they can afford him for 4 more years. It is very large and obvious risks that "the sh-t will hit the fan". I do not understand that he even want to be president for an other period. LOL Luc touched on this very important situation in an earlier post, a petty that he got it a bit muddled by involving Israel in it. The economic vulnerability and policies is worth its own independent analysis, even if it is a case for some connections. Hakan At 02:02 PM 10/19/2004, you wrote: I was recently over at Energy Information Administration US Department Of Energy International Energy Annual http://www.eia.doe.gov/iea/ and clicked on PRICES then on Table 7.2 World Survey of Recent Selected Petroleum Product Prices (Including Taxes) Heres a sampling below -- U.S. Dollars per U.S. Gallon Region/Country DateGasoline Diesel Canada 1Q/20032.24 1.43 US 1/2003 1.65 1.49 Brazil 1/2003 2.44 1.52 Colombia 1/2003 1.65 0.85 Paraguay 1/2003 1.62 1.30 Venezuela1/2003 0.16 0.10 France 1Q/2003 4.74 3.61 Germany 1Q/2003 4.39 3.46 Spain1Q/2003 3.43 2.99 Sweden 1Q/2003 4.45 3.70 UK1Q/2003 4.95 4.76 Poland 1Q/2003 3.53 2.83 Russia 1/2003 0.69 0.63 Iran 20020.34 0.07 Kuwait 20020.78 0.68 Saudi Arabia 20020.91 0.37 Libya 20020.56 0.50 Nigeria 20020.82 0.82 South Africa 20021.41 1.25 Australia1Q/2003 1.65 2.18 China 4Q/20021.32 1.21 Hong Kong 1Q/20035.44 3.07 India 20022.50 1.72 Indonesia2002 0.68 0.72 Japan 1Q/20033.36 2.67 New Zealand 1Q/20032.40 1.42 Thailand 4Q/2002 1.36 1.25 Includes additional pricing for -- Residential Fuels - Light Fuel Oil, Kerosene, Liquefied Petroleum Gas. Industrial Fuels - U.S. Dollars per Barrel - Light Fuel Oil, Heavy Fuel Oil. U.S. Gasoline and Crude Oil Prices by Year 1918-1999 chart (In Constant 1995 Dollars) http://www.energy.ca.gov/gasoline/statistics/us_gas+oilprices_1918-1999.html ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] oil price over the years
I was recently over at Energy Information Administration US Department Of Energy International Energy Annual http://www.eia.doe.gov/iea/ and clicked on PRICES then on Table 7.2 World Survey of Recent Selected Petroleum Product Prices (Including Taxes) Heres a sampling below -- U.S. Dollars per U.S. Gallon Region/Country DateGasoline Diesel Canada 1Q/20032.24 1.43 US 1/2003 1.65 1.49 Brazil 1/2003 2.44 1.52 Colombia 1/2003 1.65 0.85 Paraguay 1/2003 1.62 1.30 Venezuela1/2003 0.16 0.10 France 1Q/2003 4.74 3.61 Germany 1Q/2003 4.39 3.46 Spain1Q/2003 3.43 2.99 Sweden 1Q/2003 4.45 3.70 UK1Q/2003 4.95 4.76 Poland 1Q/2003 3.53 2.83 Russia 1/2003 0.69 0.63 Iran 20020.34 0.07 Kuwait 20020.78 0.68 Saudi Arabia 20020.91 0.37 Libya 20020.56 0.50 Nigeria 20020.82 0.82 South Africa 20021.41 1.25 Australia1Q/2003 1.65 2.18 China 4Q/20021.32 1.21 Hong Kong 1Q/20035.44 3.07 India 20022.50 1.72 Indonesia2002 0.68 0.72 Japan 1Q/20033.36 2.67 New Zealand 1Q/20032.40 1.42 Thailand 4Q/2002 1.36 1.25 Includes additional pricing for -- Residential Fuels - Light Fuel Oil, Kerosene, Liquefied Petroleum Gas. Industrial Fuels - U.S. Dollars per Barrel - Light Fuel Oil, Heavy Fuel Oil. U.S. Gasoline and Crude Oil Prices by Year 1918-1999 chart (In Constant 1995 Dollars) http://www.energy.ca.gov/gasoline/statistics/us_gas+oilprices_1918-1999.html ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Biofuels slogan
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Re: [Biofuel] oil price over the years
Hi to all. I thought this was interesting. "Adjusted for inflation, the record price for oil is $81.30 a barrel." Which is the peak of the spike on the graph below. Forwarded to me from a fellow worker, Peter Sieck. I have not verified the data. Peter Sieck Hello Joe No attachments. Virus-free - As an essential anti-virus measure the list does not accept attachments. All attachments are automatically removed before messages are distributed to the members. It is not possible to receive a virus from the Biofuel list. -- The List rules: http://wwia.org/pipermail/biofuel/Week-of-Mon-20040906/05.html Anyway, re oil prices, see: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/20/ Message #20, of 39,388 (below) - the 1980 price is the spike you menion, Since this early message a lot of people, including Americans, have posted messages saying US oil prices are way too low (what all OECD nations except the US also say), and the sooner the pump price hits $5 a gallon the better. See also: Who gets what from imported oil? Data from OPEC (Acrobat file, 36kb): http://www.opec.org/NewsInfo/WhoGetsWhat/2001.pdf Best wishes Keith Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 04:21:29 +0900 To: biofuel-onelist.com From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Dean Baker on oil prices FYI Mr Baker says below that oil prices aren't really high, they just seem that way. (He's right!) Anyway, you guys in the States think you're suffering? You're paying what, $1.70 a gallon, and it's killing you? Here in Hong Kong, where the wonders of the Invisible Hand allegedly weave their free-marketplace magic to the greatest good of the greatest number, we're paying HK$11 per litre - that's US$5.30 per US gallon!! (And one gallon won't take you far in a Land Rover.) On the other hand, it's true that this offshore island we live on is and always has been a nest of smugglers, and it is possible to get gas spirited in from a certain country to the north at the real cheap price of, yes, only US$1.70 a gallon, but it's really bad, dirty fuel, you're crazy to put it in your motor. (We used to use it for degreasing but now we use biodiesel.) So count your blessings, you lucky Americans, we envy you. (Just trying to cheer you up a bit next time you pull in at the gas station.) Keith Addison Handmade Projects Journey to Forever Economic Reporting Review April 3, 2000: By Dean Baker You can sign up to receive ERR via email every week at http://www.cepr.net/columns/subbaker.htm. ERR is archived at http://www.fair.org/err/. OIL PRICES "OPEC Oil Increase Likely to Fall Short of Clinton's Target" Edmund L. Andrews New York Times, March 27, 2000, page A1 "OPEC Fails to Agree on Boost in Output" William Drozdiak Washington Post, March 28, 2000, page A1 "Bowing to U.S., OPEC Agrees to Hike Ouput" William Drozdiak Washington Post, March 29, 2000, page A1 "With Iran Balking, OPEC Nations Plan to Sell More Oil" Edmund L. Andrews New York Times, March 29, 2000, page A1 "Reluctant Iran Falls in Line With OPEC Production Rise" Edmund L. Andrews New York Times, March 30, 2000, page A10 These articles discuss the current and likely future path of oil prices in the wake of OPEC's decision to increase oil production. None of these articles place the price of oil in an historical perspective, thereby implying that current prices are unusually high. For example, the first Times article concludes by commenting that, with prices close to $28 a barrel, "they were at levels that most producers would consider close to Nirvana." After adjusting for inflation, this price is approximately the same as oil producers received in the late '80s and early '90s (not counting the price spike associated with the Persian Gulf War). In inflation-adjusted dollars, it is less than half the price that oil producers received in 1980. It is also worth noting that the decision of the OPEC nations to increase their production almost certainly ran counter to their own interests. Since the demand for oil is highly inelastic (at least in the short-run), the increase in production means that these nations will be producing more oil for less money. The fact that many OPEC nations were reluctant to agree to an increase in production is treated as being peculiar. Actually, most nations are usually reluctant to carry through actions that are harmful to their economic interests. Dean Baker is an economist and the co-director of the Center for Economics and Policy Research (CEPR). His latest book (co-authored with Mark Weisbrot) is Social Security: The Phony Crisis (University of Chicago Press). ERR is a joint project of FAIR and CEPR. ERR is edited by Jim Naureckas. Recent articles can be found on the websites of the New York Times and Washington Post. FAIR's critique of these outlets can be found at http://www.fair.org/media-outlets/nyt.html and http://www.fair.org/media-outlets/wpost-newsweek.html. _
Re: [Biofuel] oil price over the years
> Hi to all. I thought this was interesting. "Adjusted for inflation, the record price for oil is $81.30 a barrel." > > Which is the peak of the spike on the graph below. Forwarded to me from a fellow worker, Peter Sieck. I have not verified the data. --- Since the Eastern Block countries are beginning to industrialize, there is a growing demand for a world oil source this kind of competition drives up the cost of a barrel of oil.. and this problem was made worse, when Mainland China started to also demand oil for their growing industry Major cities in China used to be a sea of bicycles now, these cities are a sea of cars, all demanding Oil, for gasoline and diesel fuel... So the world production of oil is maxed out at this time... especially if strategic oil pipe lines continue to be blown up in Iraq, and if off (our) shore oil rigs that were damaged this year by various hurricanes, are not repaired quickly and there is a finite supply of fossil fuels so it could be in the next few years, that the oil supply may start to decline... Gig [Scanned by AwesomeNet Anti-Virus] ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Biofuels slogan
ummm.. thinking about a slogan, I'll propose the following: Biofuels - Flower Power I think its kinda clever.. regards, Paul. --- Paul Tanner Client IT Architect IBM Business Consulting Services Level 24, 60 City Rd. Melbourne, VIC 3000 Ahhh, someone else on the list in Melbourne. Are you currently producing biodiesel? Regards, Andrew Lowe ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] oil price over the years
Hi to all. I thought this was interesting. "Adjusted for inflation, the record price for oil is $81.30 a barrel." Which is the peak of the spike on the graph below. Forwarded to me from a fellow worker, Peter Sieck. I have not verified the data. Peter Sieck ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Biofuels slogan
ummm.. thinking about a slogan, I'll propose the following: Biofuels - Flower Power I think its kinda clever.. regards, Paul. --- Paul Tanner Client IT Architect IBM Business Consulting Services Level 24, 60 City Rd. Melbourne, VIC 3000 Phone: +61-3-8646 5346 Fax: +61-3-9626 6010 Mobile:+61-402 000 980 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] commercial
Hi everyone, I am looking for some help regarding the formation of a small commercial operation. It appears as though there are many different ways and formulas to create biodiesel but what I am looking for is the most effective way to make biodiesel that will meet the government set standards. As well, I need to create a system that will handle a fairly large volume and am unsure as to where to start. Can anyone help lead me in the right direction? Thanks Todd ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Abu Ghraib honchos
The Bush administration is protecting, in fact promoting the honchos in charge at Abu Ghraib when the US soldiers abused the Iraqi prisoners who were mostly just regular Iraqis in the wrong place at the wrong time. Many wise people believe that the debacle in Abu Ghraib has so damaged the image of the US in the eyes of the average Iraqi that the Iraqi war is now an unwinnable misadventure. Some believe that the reason the commanders of the prison during these events are getting promotions is because the abuse of Iraqi prisoners was begun because of errant policies enacted at the Guantanamo prison in Cuba that were approved at the highest levels of the administration. The man who led Guantanamo was moved to AbuGhraib during the abuse and the abuse continueduntil the pictures came out. If the Bush administration demotes or suspends the honchos these people surely will point a finger at the top where the instructions came from. I recall after the Afganistan invasion seeing pictures of Guantanamo prisoners manacled, dressed in orange on their knees being humiliated. We seemed to want to show the world that we were tough and could show 'these Muslims' who was boss. That attitude was catching. In the eyes of many Middle east experts that attitude and it's resulting terrible abuse has made the Iraq war an unwinnable war for the United States of America. We all know from everyday life that bad leadership results in confused, inept action on the ground. be well, Ross October 18, 2004 Pentagon Rewards Abu Ghraib Accomplices by Chris Shumway TheNewStandard Instead of reprimands or dismissals, one general tied to the torture and abuses at Abu Ghraib prison will probably receive a promotion and another has been recommended for a new command position. At the same time, both U.S. corporations with direct ties to the abuse scandal have been rewarded with lucrative contracts valued in the hundreds of millions of dollars. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and General Richard Myers, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, want to promote Lieutenant General Ricardo Sanchez, the former commanding general of U.S. troops in Iraq, according to "senior defense officials" who spoke to the Los Angeles Times. Investigators have cited Sanchez for creating an environment that contributed to the torture of Iraqis at Abu Ghraib. A fourth star for Sanchez might not come until after the Nov. 2 presidential election, however, because the general is what one source termed politically "radioactive" right now due to his role in the prison abuse and torture scandal. If President Bush is reelected, Rumsfeld, Myers and other top officials at the Pentagon will reportedly push aggressively for Sanchez's promotion. Meanwhile, the Army's chief of intelligence said this week that he thinks Major General Barbara Fast, formerly the chief military intelligence officer in Iraq, should be put in command of the Army's intelligence school in Arizona. Lieutenant General Keith Alexander told reporters Friday he has "great confidence" in Fast's ability to supervise the training of Army interrogators. The same investigation that cited Sanchez also blamed Fast for failing to properly monitor activities by CIA interrogators at Abu Ghraib. In the private sector, the U.S. government has awarded lucrative contracts to security technology and mercenary contracting firms tied to the Abu Ghraib scandal by General Antonio Taguba's investigation. CACI International, which provides interrogators to supplement the US Army's intelligence and counterintelligence operations in Iraq, revealed last week that it has obtained contracts valued at $266 million. That announcement came less than a month after the U.S. Army awarded a six-month "bridging contract" worth as much as $400 million to Titan Corp., the San Diego-based security firm also tied to the Abu Ghraib abuses. That contract will likely keep Titan's force of over 4,000 translators working in Iraq until September 2005. Later last month, Titan landed a National Security Agency deal that will rope the publicly traded defense giant another $300 million. On Oct. 1, Titan scored a five-year "indefinite-delivery, indefinit-quantity multiple-award" technical contract from the U.S. Navy valued at over $1 billion. To continue the streak, on Thursday the Navy awarded Titan a separate five-year contract worth $109 million. Brian Dominick contributed to this piece. Links referenced within this article TheNewStandard http://newstandardnews.net/ Los Angeles Times http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/la-na-sanchez15oct15,0,36979 70.story?coll=sns-ap-nationworld-headlines told reporters Friday http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A33568-2004Oct14?language=printe r revealed last week http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/041012/dctu024_1.html Titan Corp. http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/business/20040918--1b
Re: [Biofuel] U.N.: Indoor Pollution Kills 1.6M Per Year
Z And? You're trying to say..., what? That it's okay that thousands die from one malady simply because another malady kills thousands more? Correct me if I'm wrong, but by this type of logic/justification/rationalization, or whatever anyone cares to call it, there should be nothing done about anything that decreases a human's lifespan. Tens of millions die from smoking cigarettes. Millions from alcohol. Millions from pollution. Millions from water borne diseases. And what about the millions that acquire immuno-deficiency/industrial diseases due to chemical exposures? Should they too be discounted/scoffed at simply because millions of others contract lyme disease from ticks? Sure. Everyone dies from something. But there's no reason to expedite the process or to dismiss or non-chalantly disregard whatever diminishes the living experience. Something's wrong with such quippy, one-liner responses. Todd Swearingen Zandu Goldbar King Loges-de-Corbeaux Alberta-BC Border Loges-de-Corbeaux BC-Alberta Z6Z 6Z6 CANADA 666-666- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/partyofcitizens Add this card to your address book - Original Message - From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 1:08 PM Subject: [Biofuel] U.N.: Indoor Pollution Kills 1.6M Per Year > http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=168171 > ABC News: > U.N.: Indoor Pollution Kills 1.6M Per Year > > U.N. Calls Indoor Pollution Silent and Unreported Killer; Smoke > Claims 1.6 Million Lives a Year > > GENEVA Oct. 15, 2004 > - About 1.6 million people are killed each year by indoor smoke from > cooking fires in developing countries, U.N. agencies said Friday. > > "That's one life lost every 20 seconds to the 'killer in the > kitchen,'" said a statement by the World Health Organization and the > United Nations Development Program. > > "While the millions of deaths from well-known communicable diseases > often make headlines, indoor air pollution remains a silent and > unreported killer. Rural women and children are the most at risk." > > The agencies said nearly half of the world continues to cook with > dung, wood, coal and other solid fuels in fireplaces and stoves that > lack chimneys or vents to safely remove the smoke from the house. > > > * Negotiator: Fallujah Talks Still Suspended > * Cops: Burglary Suspect Strangles Himself > * Secrets of the Saudi Royal Family > > "Smoke from burning these fuels gives off a poisonous cocktail of > particles and chemicals," they said. > > People that aren't killed directly by the fumes can succumb to > respiratory illnesses such as bronchitis and pneumonia brought on by > the smoke. > > The agencies said a typical wood-fired cooking stove creates carbon > monoxide and other noxious fumes at anywhere between seven and 500 > times over the allowable limits. > > "Day in day out, and for hours at a time, rural women and their > children in particular are subjected to levels of smoke in their > homes that far exceed international safety standards," the statement > said. > > Hope for improvement comes from a growing network of experts and > organizations that is finding innovative and affordable solutions > using cleaner stoves, fuels and smoke hoods, the agencies said. > > "But this is just the beginning," they said. "We need the same > attention paid to this killer in the kitchen as is paid to other > major killers." > > Copyright 2004 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This > material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. > > > > http://www.healthcentral.com/news/NewsFullText.cfm?id=1505050 > Health News > > UN: Indoor Pollution Kills 1.6 Million Annually > > About 1.6 million people worldwide die each year from the effects of > indoor pollution, two United Nations agencies reported Friday. > > "While the millions of deaths from well-known communicable diseases > often make headlines, indoor air pollution remains a silent and > unreported killer," according to a statement from the World Health > Organization and the U.N. Development Program. > > The agencies said people in nearly half of the world continue to cook > with wood, coal and other solid fuels in conditions that lack proper > ventilation, according to an Associated Press account of the report. > The resulting smoke and fumes contain a toxic cocktail of particles > and chemicals, the report said. And people who don't die from the > direct effects of the smoke often die from respiratory disease, the > agencies added. > > A typical wood-fired cooking stove creates noxious fumes and smoke > that are up to 500 times greater than international safety standards > permit, the report said. > > - > > Copyright © 2004 ScoutNews, LLC. All rights reserved.
